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00:16
Y'all ever accidently lose like, 3 months worth of work and then never want to touch a project again?
It feels like that if I lose two days
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I lost my language's entire reworked Type System
Always commit your changes
00:40
Onoseconds are always fun
I've had a pretty bad one, didn't learn my lesson but certainly pushed me close
Lost like two weeks of 24/7 work
That's the sort of stuff that makes you seriously think about backing things up every few months before deciding it's too complicated
I have a backup disk for my laptop and I don't use it as much as I should
I guess I'll learn my lesson someday
I feel like it's way harder to back stuff up than people act like though
00:46
I keep procrastinating getting a good way to back up
Had a tiny USB drive as a backup disk for my laptop, but forgot to take it with me when I left my dad's and it doesn't have enough storage to comfortably fit everything
Like Linux is a nightmare...you've got all these folders where some stuff should be backed up and others shouldn't and others aren't actually files (/dev and stuff)
I know quite a few people who would espouse the virtues of nixos right now
(while conviently forgetting about the drawbacks)
yeah I don't think I've ever had an attempt at creating a plan for backups that didn't turn into architecting a whole operating system
I can't tell if that's a joke or not
Genuinely
And I just find that remarkable
neither, it's an exaggeration :p
If I had a nickel for every time someone here attempted to design an operating system, I'd have two nickels
I definitely do sit down for a few hours every time working out how all sorts of little things will work before I remind myself the futility of my pursuit, and the need to wait until our infrastructure is cleansed by purifying flame and a new beginning can rise from the ashes of our far-too-long experimental foray into computing
I'm very rarely in favor of burn it all down and start over, but we could've done so many things so much better with the knowledge we have today
I read "pursuit" as "fursuit" and that's a pretty accurate reflection of nixos users
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@rydwolf Knowledge we gained because of the infrastructure we have.
And if you set the world on fire, who's going to protect that knowledge?
@emanresuA "This fursuit will not change the fact that I am a mere drop in an ocean. The loss of my files will not be a tragedy but an acceleration of the inevitable."
@emanresuA Not the world, just our computing infrastructure
(the "it all down" that I'm talking about burning is just the computers, not the whole of civilization)
although idk, maybe my views on that are changing too
01:01
@rydwolf my computer mod project happens to give me an excellent opportunity to do exactly that :p
@rydwolf the computer part not the civilixation part
like not burening anything down
I sure do love EventQueue$METATABLE$lambda$7$lambda$4$lambda$2$lambda$1$$inlined$zeroArgFunction$1.execute
I need to stop making grand statements about destroying institutions of modern lifde when I'm tired ffs
That;s probably my queue to say good jight
i got like four hours of sleep last night lol and i've been awake since 4:3o am
@rydwolf how did i us te wrong queue lol
o/
@rydwolf I once did mv -f / /www instead of mv -f ./ /www and quietly bricked my server
 
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03:40
Oh shit
I think there's a pretty serious bug in my Qdeql interpreter
false alarm
04:13
What the sentence said: "Used to prevent a prodigious producer swamping a slower consumer"
What I thought it said: "Used to prevent a prodigy swimmer from lapping a slower swimmer"
you heard it here first folks, networking is but a swimming carnival
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where did the swimmers come from
the networking swimming carnival
obviously
05:03
I write the best notes
 
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07:13
@lyxal funnily enough i'm not allowed to enter the united states, have fun tho
07:59
@Themoonisacheese Cross the border illegally.
Notification that I have changed my pronouns.
08:15
oh so you have
 
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11:26
@192927376337929292283737373773 That feels a little excessive if only because of how much screen space it takes up
Nothing against any of these pronouns or the concept of using them together but that is a little disruptive on the sidebar
11:40
I think I'm going to add a feature to hide a user's pronouns
for exactly this reason
12:13
pronouns look weird on mobile
the profile picture moves to the other side and it takes two lines, maybe they'd bs better side to side
12:26
well, your first problem was using it on mobile :p
I don't really have an easy way to test that, but I'll see if I can fix it
13:14
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Q: Where did I leave my keys?

ThemoonisacheeseI was travelling to another english-speaking country recently and when it came time to unlock my front door, I discovered I lost my keys! Worse, an uninvited guest was in my house! You see, I realized at the departures gates, I always forget to close my bedroom window, and this time alligators go...

13:45
@Bbrk24 well I absolutely do not care at all.
You can misgender me however you want.
The pronouns are reflective of this.
@192927376337929292283737373773 you could just use "any pronouns" and not take up SIX LINES of vertical space
Take this as proof testing. :p
it's obnoxious, please change it
Today found out people use /p?
Wtf.
@Ginger or you implement a "hide pronouns" feature.
Just saying it's better to do it yourself than wait for someone who might or might not do it.
you could just... change it? to "any"?
13:50
Also small little fact: it takes up five lines.
instead of intentionally making chat more unusable?
Why doesn't chat allow you to unstar messages after a while?
This has been the second β€” or third β€” time that I have
encountered this situation.
Where I accidentally star a message and do not notice.
(usually this happens when surfing through transcripts because it is more unclear there.)
I'm going to blacklist you in the extension, since apparently you're committed to being a nuisance
does that mean I am blacklisted on setting pronouns or seeing them too?
The former right?
Fine let me change it.
the extension will not show your pronouns specifically
13:55
Done.
Wonder if it's sanitized.
Aug 26 at 11:37, by lyxal
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer the part that inserts the pronouns uses innerText, meaning that even if you were to include a script tag somehow, it'd just render it as normal text
if it were not sanitised, everyone using it would have been rickrolled by now
still, i'd be better represented by bobby/tables as pronouns at this point lmao
14:00
@Ginger ...yeah looks like this is my cue to switch to your script
gimme a sec
btw installed tragic wormhole 2 :3
not sure why i'd ever use it but i have it
Wait why do I have it installed but disabled
@192927376337929292283737373773 It might be sensible for the script to truncate to one line (and maybe with an ellipsis or such to show there's more), but forcing the issue just shows that you know you're causing a problem...
14:04
xe've changed it, clear your cache
he/him/his would be preferred.
you're not gonna believe this
there's a read-made space for you to tell us that
script has been updated
read (verb)-made or read (noun)-made?
14:08
Thanks
But I changed it.
Evidence is my profile.
I already dredged it up from the meta post but it's not working for some reason :(
I probably borked it
you should've changed it the first time you were asked
but you didn't, which shows me that you can't be trusted to use the system responsibly, so now you don't get to
14:09
I was only asked once.
If we're going by ?.
I'm not interested in litigating this. Behave responsibly.
The first one isn't directed towards me and a general statement.
Cool SE chat feature I just discovered: global ignore user. No particular reason I'm mentioning this
The second one is a comparison/another statement.
oh yeah right I forgot that exists
14:12
@UnrelatedString definitely one particular reason.
This actually looks pretty green now.
@Themoonisacheese oh this meant ready or already I think.
@192927376337929292283737373773 ready yeah
a 7zip installer for your trouble
i cannot stress how much i will never download and execute an executable from chat.SE on my work machine
you're no fun
:p
@UnrelatedString I would like for this not to be necessary, since it's both annoying to implement and might cut off pronouns on small screens
and for the most part it hasn't been
14:39
And there's little to no risk of it accidentally parsing something too long that was written in good faith
15:10
Wait.
Why cannot I global ignore Ginger?
15:31
@192927376337929292283737373773 incorrect
This is a cycle isn’t it?
1929 is acting just like I was when I first arrived at Chat.SE
15:50
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer yes
 
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17:30
@Ginger I don't really like how this conversation went...you designed an unofficial userscript, a user's chosen pronouns exposed a flaw in your script, then you call them a nuisance for not changing to a less specific set of pronouns ("any")?
Maybe in this case the user's intent was to be annoying, but this scenario could totally happen with no ill intent, and it's not "intentionally making chat more unusable", it's "causing an annoyance to people opting into an additional, flawed extension to chat"
If someone's pronouns are "maytag washing machine" or "pota/to" or some shit, it's justified to tell them to change it, but if someone has a large list of pronouns they're comfortable with, and it fits in the space chat provides for arbitrary bio info, I don't think that's something that people should be pressured out of because of how it impacts an external opt-in userscript
I recognize intent is a factor here but I also don't see any positive signs of bad intent?
Maybe some defensiveness but I would expect that if someone told me to change my bio because it breaks their code
I intentionally didn't bother truncating pronouns in case someone happened to use a longer set of neopronouns; that's a feature, not a flaw in the script
I want to say that listing seventeen pronouns isn't something that people do... but it could be? and I can't make assertions about other peoples' identities
maybe the_ah actually does want us to use just those seventeen
There's definitely a trade off here, I think there's just better ways it could've been handled and discussed
yeah
I was pretty annoyed, because that's the second time something like this has happened in the last few weeks (and honestly I don't like the_ah very much), so I responded harshly
18:35
@Ginger drop down menu for pronouns?
19:21
@ATaco better than mv -f ./ www (overwrite the entire world-wide web)
19:52
CMegaC: Make an computer program that keeps running even when all electronic devices are completely switched off and have no power.
@rydwolf wait why did you post that at exactly midnight???
20:10
Massive plot twist:
And the recontextualization of the question as "According to Al: [long quote]" where Al is just some guy is so funny
What do you call it when something smells bad but you want to keep smelling it anyway?
20:21
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer its 11 pm for me
20:39
@TheEmptyStringPhotographer Dumb
@rydwolf Man I really want to meet this guy Al
He's written so many papers it's actually insane
Like forget the Erdos number, I bet the Al number for most researchers would be <2
Nearly every paper I see, it's authored by Lee and Al, Kumar and Al, Johnson and Al, ...
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21:02
The term "computer", in use from the early 17th century (the first known written reference dates from 1613), meant "one who computes": a person performing mathematical calculations, before calculators became available. Alan Turing described the "human computer" as someone who is "supposed to be following fixed rules; he has no authority to deviate from them in any detail." Teams of people, often women from the late nineteenth century onwards, were used to undertake long and often tedious calculations; the work was divided so that this could be done in parallel. The same calculations were frequently...
21:50
@rydwolf I choose to believe the Al in question is Weird Al
lol this cut-off:
the pipery is broken πŸ˜”
Time to call a plumber
22:16
Today: Wondering why something isn't working when I realize I'm trying to use printf to concatenate strings that contain null bytes
Good job, me

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