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Zion mycelia adamancy
Zion mycelia adamancy
12:14 AM
@Bubbler 9317 at writing
 
Bubbler
Bubbler
That said, any feedback?
 
Seggan
Seggan
12:53 AM
> JavaScript → TypeScript
Java → Kotlin
C++ → Carbon
Google making big claims here
 
Steffan
Steffan
Wait it's LDW
I just happened to look at the starboard and noticed it lol
 
Seggan
Seggan
wait what
 
lyxal
lyxal
13 hours ago, by GingerBot
Welcome to the fifth Language Design Workshop! The general premise is that you can post work you've done or are doing on esolangs and people will give feedback. In short, you'll get to show off our languages and their features, chat about them, get feedback, try out WIP languages, and, hopefully get ideas over the next 24 hours.
 
Seggan
Seggan
uff
i didnt even do any work on fig this week
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
1:27 AM
My OpenAI playground credits expired :(
 
New Posts
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Q: Divisor of a string

badatgolfChallenge Given a positive-length string \$S\$, a divisor of the string \$S\$ is when there exists a number \$a\$ so when we write the string \$a\$ times we get the string \$S\$. For example, the string abcd is a divisor of the string abcdabcd Your challenge is, given a positive-length string \$S...

code-golf string
 
lyxal
lyxal
@NoHaxJustRadvylf they have a habit of doing that
 
 
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Adam
Adam
2:46 AM
 
lyxal
lyxal
mmm sorry what was that?
Did you say you had 1234 rep?
Because methinks you may be wrong
 
New Posts
New Posts
3:08 AM
-2
Q: Can you tell me about her company?

user114122 can you tell me about it. it is very big and exciting

graphical-output
 
emanresu A
emanresu A
@NewPosts I'm not sure how to deal with this lol
 
graffe
graffe
The genius of ccgc shows no bounds codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/250941/108721
 
lyxal
lyxal
@emanresuA spam, move to bakery
 
justANewb stands with Ukraine
justANewb stands with Ukraine
3:49 AM
@NewPosts that question seems like they are in a internal group chat about an airline company
 
emanresu A
emanresu A
lk,,,,,,,,,;/................................oo9-hj.2]RCD[[[[[4;234[0P9o*U&Y^N^5w76aE543
Cat
It somehow also typed rrm- in my terminal, which is concerning lol
6
 
lyxal
lyxal
cat named back lol
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
little kitty tables
7
 
lyxal
lyxal
> emanresuA, put your keyboard away emanresuA. I'm not rm rf-ing your computer right now emanresuA
 
graffe
graffe
4:18 AM
What time zones are people currently in chat on?
I am on CEST (GMT +2)
 
Bubbler
Bubbler
You can see the room activity and user activity graphs here
 
graffe
graffe
4:30 AM
@Bubbler thanks!
Although it doesn't tell me who is nocturnal
It appears my challenge has been solved now. The remaining challenge is to understand the solution :)
 
 
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emanresu A
emanresu A
7:11 AM
^
 
Bubbler
Bubbler
If you ever need a more robust program, consider learning Rust :)
 
mousetail
mousetail
I love rust but as long as you don't use threads python is equally robust
 
emanresu A
emanresu A
7:26 AM
When an email starts with Dear %s
 
mousetail
mousetail
{{ greeting }} {{ title }} {{ first_name }} {{last name}}
Bob, insert the text from the attachment here please
 
emanresu A
emanresu A
8:31 AM
Is this a dupe of this
 
 
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emanresu A
emanresu A
11:30 AM
I'm gonna move this because, while on topic, it's not particularly interesting to anyone other than you two.
 
mousetail
mousetail
:thumbsup:
 
emanresu A
emanresu A
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
in news that's interesting to even fewer people i just noticed i'm at exactly 16000 rep :P
just 384 away from a nice round number
3
 
lyxal
lyxal
Sorry sorry did you say you were exactly at 16k? I coulda swore you did. Weird given that you aren't.
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
crazy how that happens
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
12:02 PM
its still ldw for another hour right
 
lyxal
lyxal
wrong
unpins your ldw announcement
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
it said 23 hours ago :sobbing screaming:
 
lyxal
lyxal
but that doesn't mean you can't discuss any golf/esolang you're making :p
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
lol true ok
 
lyxal
lyxal
@thejonymyster it's 23 hours and 5x minutes
where x is some number > 5
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
12:05 PM
just enough time to discuss my lang "notmuchlang" where you can increment two variables at once, thats it thats the only feature
 
lyxal
lyxal
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
whew just in time
 
lyxal
lyxal
lol
 
mousetail
mousetail
@thejonymyster Do they wrap back to zero eventually?
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
@mousetail one of them does
 
mousetail
mousetail
12:06 PM
Ok not sure how to imagine that. So basically the only operator will be a,b=a+1,(b+1)%n right?
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
thatd be messedu p yeah
honestly in general im super curious about weird modularity like that
 
mousetail
mousetail
Would certainly be interesting
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
i keep coming back to "tape/thing that loops when you try to leave it on one end, but is 'infinite' the other way"
 
mousetail
mousetail
Maybe a conditional jump operator to see of B wrapped or not? Just to make it turing complete
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
lol maybe
damn honestly depending on the specifics it kind of reminds me of waterfall method lol
fudge it enough and it probably is tc
that's not a professional opinion though
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
12:09 PM
lol
 
mousetail
mousetail
You really don't have to put in a lot of effort to make something TC
To make it actually usable though is another matter
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
evidently not
of course lol
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
12:19 PM
would it be cheaty to port an answer from tc lang interpreter to minimum chars for tc
/ would it even be a valid answer to the latter
 
graffe
graffe
12:42 PM
Afternoon all
Anyone awake?
 
mousetail
mousetail
No
 
lyxal
lyxal
neither
 
Jo King
Jo King
help, the sun went out
 
mousetail
mousetail
That sounds less than ideal
 
lyxal
lyxal
@JoKing dang, I can't see it either
 
user
user
12:53 PM
Neither can I, although there seems to be some source of illumination here
Oh wait, I just have the blinds down
 
lyxal
lyxal
Lucky
I opened mine and it's definitely gone
sunn't
 
PyGamer0
PyGamer0
i just see light blue sky but no sun :(
and when i look towards wst i see red sky
its weird but still no sun :(
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
i cant look outside because my skybox code is busted and itll crash
 
lyxal
lyxal
my skybox code is just returning void
with a few dangling pointers here and there
 
emanresu A
emanresu A
> So, basically, saying that this game should be burned is an insult to fire.
 
lyxal
lyxal
12:57 PM
who knew memory leaks ended up thousands of lightyears away
 
mousetail
mousetail
Sounds like floating point accuracy issues
Someone tell the universe to use doubles
 
user
user
@lyxal Or in other dimensions (disclaimer: shameless self-promotion)
 
lyxal
lyxal
well I don't see what else would be giving off light within the void of the skybox right now
 
user
user
A giant flaming meteor thrown at us by aliens
 
lyxal
lyxal
CMQ: How similar do ∻ and ÷ look? ∻÷ - are they distinguishable from a distance?
 
user
user
1:03 PM
Not that similar
The first looks like a tilted script x to me
 
PyGamer0
PyGamer0
@lyxal it took me a minute to realise that they are different characters
 
lyxal
lyxal
well alas ∻ isn't spaced nicely
so it doesn't matter anyway :p
 
pxeger
pxeger
CMC: Given a list a_1, ..., a_n, add 10x_i to each element a_i such that the list is strictly increasing and the sum x_i is minimised (where each x_i is a non-negative integer)
In other words, increase every element of the list so that it is strictly increasing and each element stays the same modulo 10
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
+1 cool idea, no idea how to approach it yet :P
 
pxeger
pxeger
@NoHaxJustRadvylf I have the same problem, and I find putting things in a git repo is a good way to encourage myself to work on them longer-term because it's much easier to come back to it 6 months later when it's well organised
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
1:21 PM
@pxeger javascript, 79 bytes not very short but this was still interesting to solve at all tbh. need to think about both a cleaner way to do this and a shorter way to do this :)
also i have no idea if thatd be a valid submission or how to like score it
 
pxeger
pxeger
that's right
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
ok good lol gfsdg
i guess itd probably be something to do with avoiding the slice by having the start of the reduce work better
but ill do that later lol
 
graffe
graffe
CMQ Do you prefer JavaScript or Typescript?
 
mousetail
mousetail
Typescript
Though JSFuck is the best of the 3
 
graffe
graffe
:)
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
1:32 PM
i've never used typescript, seems cool though
i think i get the occasional little typescript blurb from replit but sometimes its wrong because i write cursed code
 
graffe
graffe
I like the idea of cursed code
 
user
user
TypeScript is way better than JS unless you're working with some really cursed JS library (although even then it might have .d.ts files)
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
@pxeger and imo the biggest part of that is when you have git there's no shame in redoing half of what you left off on--you don't erase your commit history, just add a new chapter
 
graffe
graffe
There is also coffeescript of course
 
user
user
Coffeescript seems like a kitchen sink though
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
1:35 PM
lol specifically i remember it warning me that something like ".pop is not a valid method for this variable" cause it's initialized/expected as a string within the function, but immediately after initialization i split it into an array
 
user
user
That's really your fault tbh
If you're transforming something it's probably better to do let foo="foo";let splitFoo=foo.split() rather than let foo="foo";foo=foo.split()
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
right yea thats what it wants me to do
as i was saying, "because i write cursed code"
 
user
user
Doing the latter has caused me a lot of headaches in Python notebooks :(
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
my one defense is that its a function that takes a string as input, but i needed to make one of those default cases
 
user
user
Switch works with strings, though, right?
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
1:38 PM
so the function looks like (x="")=>{x=x.split("")...
no i mean default like
 
user
user
Oh I see what you mean
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
yea
dunno what its called
 
user
user
Default argument? Optional parameter? idk either
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
so theres no way id mistake it for being a string, but typescript just assumes that since im giving it a default value, it should keep that type
which like, fair
but thats not how im operating
and im not gonna make a like... helper function just for handling that
 
user
user
I mean the easy fix is to just use let y=x.split
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
1:39 PM
maybe a maybe monad
 
graffe
graffe
I read a lot of python code with type hints these days but they are completely ignored when I run the code
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
fix is a strong word
 
user
user
Well TS has nulls so you don't really need that
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
the code works just fine, and im not remotely confused by it,
 
graffe
graffe
How do people actually use them in practice?
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
1:40 PM
its just that i get a little typescript warning/hint thing
 
user
user
Well fix for the warning
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
right yea
also i think ive scrapped that project
 
user
user
@graffe You use a tool like flake8 to lint your code. Also, your editor should be able to use those type hints to give you warnings and helpful completions
@thejonymyster Whoa that's a bit extreme for one little warning :P
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
@pxeger don't suppose this works? Jelly, 8 bytes: <Ɲ¬ÄŻ×⁵+
 
graffe
graffe
@user thanks. In my case that means Emacs
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
1:41 PM
also for fun ×⁵+ can be ż¹Ḍ :P
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
@user what can i say i have high standards :P except when im writing the code
 
user
user
I'm sure Emacs has a mode or whatever it's called for that. Also, you can make a GitHub workflow to check your code once you push or maybe a pre-commit hook
@thejonymyster I have high standards when I'm looking at other people's code, but not when I'm writing my own :P
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
i think im gonna post this, any last glaring issues i may have missed before i do?
 
pxeger
pxeger
@UnrelatedString yep, that's good
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
oh I guess i could illustrate the "3x3 region" step
and explain edges/corners of the board explicitly
 
graffe
graffe
1:45 PM
@thejonymyster good idea
 
pxeger
pxeger
@lyxal I leave the site for 2 weeks and lyxal becomes... I don't know how to finish this sentence
 
lyxal
lyxal
I have broken the bad
 
graffe
graffe
Please finish it! :)
 
lyxal
lyxal
call me Jimmy because I be slippin'
 
user
user
@pxeger Becomes what he's always been. That facade of responsibility he added after he became an RO was only temporary :P
(no offense lyxal, just kidding)
 
lyxal
lyxal
1:50 PM
@user nah nah it's from cooking
 
user
user
@mousetail Yeah as soon as I use more than 0 threads bad things start happening :P
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
@thejonymyster Is this clear now? just specified the edges of the board a bit in the start and the 3x3 region thing
 
user
user
@lyxal Well, it's not too late. You can cure yourself
 
PyGamer0
PyGamer0
@graffe also there is a mypy which actually checks those type annotations and sees whether they match or no
 
lyxal
lyxal
@user can't - Gus wants another batch
 
graffe
graffe
1:52 PM
@PyGamer0 don't the linters do that?
 
user
user
Oh yeah my bad flake8 is more of a normal linter, mypy's the static checker thing
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
@lyxal his name is finger
wait wrong guy LOL
 
user
user
Is this a Psych reference?
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
i havent watched it
 
lyxal
lyxal
@user no
Breaking Bad / Better Call Saul
 
user
user
1:53 PM
Oh ok
 
graffe
graffe
Is it only mypy that actually checks the types?
 
user
user
No, others do too
 
graffe
graffe
Ok cool
 
lyxal
lyxal
@thejonymyster neither, I'm just going off the memes lol
 
user
user
@user (since no one seems to have noticed, I'll point it out: "cure" was a pun)
 
lyxal
lyxal
1:54 PM
@pxeger call me lyxanberg because I'm the one who knocks :p
 
user
user
You can star my funny message now
 
lyxal
lyxal
@user I honestly thought it was a reference to how Walter has cancer in Breaking Bad
 
graffe
graffe
I am going to post codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/a/25030/108721 in about 30 hours from now unless anyone tells me not to
Please let me know if anything is unclear
 
Jo King
Jo King
2:13 PM
hey @NoHaxJustRadvylf, you should add pings to scrollchat (for online users obv)
 
pxeger
pxeger
You saw nothing
 
user
user
@pxeger Are you aaaaaaaaaa?
 
pxeger
pxeger
No that's probably JoKing
The thing you didn't see was something else
 
user
user
Hmm ok
 
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Unrelated String
page jsut crashed
 
user
user
2:21 PM
Hmm scrollchat broke after I pasted in RTL overrides
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
nice.
 
user
user
Oh it's not just me then
 
New Posts
New Posts
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Q: Seeing the queen's lasers

thejonymysterIn chess, the queen piece can see arbitrarily far in each cardinal and intercardinal direction. What does this mean? Well, I'll show you with an ASCII drawing: \..|../ .\.|./. ..\|/.. ---Q--- ../|\.. ./.|.\. /..|..\ It means the queen (notated as Q) can see along these lines (notated as \, |, /,...

code-golf grid chess
 
user
user
Looks like lyxal's the one who pasted a bunch of "lag lol"s
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
it's still dying
 
lyxal
lyxal
2:22 PM
@user at least 13k characters
 
user
user
RIP Radvylf's server
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
@radv maybe make it so that long messages dont obliterate everything :P also longer fade time pls
 
Jo King
Jo King
@pxeger i mean, i'm joking
presumably there should be some max length, especially since the rest of the message ends up cut off the end anyway
 
user
user
It'd be nice if there were two lines per user and it faded much more slowly
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
^ oo
also ^^^
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
2:27 PM
ye
 
lyxal
lyxal
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
@radvylf feature request make enter type like 8 spaces or so
 
user
user
Oh, so you're aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
ooo also fun
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
ye
 
user
user
2:42 PM
You recorded it? Oh no
That's gotta be a privacy violation of some sort
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
i simply had to preserve the contest for posterity
 
user
user
There was no contest lol
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
Hi, what happened here
 
user
user
I was the only one taking it halfway seriously
Shitposting
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
a lot of it
 
user
user
2:43 PM
We should move half of this to Off-Topic or a dedicated room
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
I think you mean golfposting
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
oh smart
yeah
 
mousetail
mousetail
Wouldn't golf posting be on topic?
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
not quite, check urban dictionary
in other news: I'm compiling MusE
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
> no
jo
don't give up
surely
surely, you're joking
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
2:44 PM
ooh rhyme!
 
Jo King
Jo King
turns out i can't actually type that fast
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
update: I think someone else crashed scrollchat
 
lyxal
lyxal
@NoHaxJustRadvylf I think you might have forgotten to only let one person use a name at a time
I can put my name as JoKing and type in JoKing's line
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
wait it actually tracks it by name instead of some kind of session
that's amazing
 
mousetail
mousetail
2:59 PM
Where is this scrollchat?
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
starboard
 
mousetail
mousetail
Ok and it's broken right now because something someone typed earlier
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
boomboomboom :b
QOTD:
> JS fuckery is the only kind of JS you can write -GingerBot
 
Jo King
Jo King
... i didn't write that though
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
you did now, because it's too late for me to edit that
unless you 11 it to say user
yup, perfect
 
user
user
3:14 PM
@GingerBot ??? I said that
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
Not Anymore
 
user
user
lol ok
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
reality can be whatever I want, and I want it to be me saying witty quotes
 
user
user
Wasn't particularly witty, which is why I'm fine with it being attributed to you :P
We should really move this to a dedicated chatroom
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
did I not just say that reality can be whatever I want? it's witty now d:
 
user
user
3:16 PM
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
Whoa, Chrome OS just made some big changes. Like a dark mode :o
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
spicy
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
nice
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
Cool....there's a calender widget thingy in the taskbar now
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
f
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
3:20 PM
No it's a good thing
 
user
user
@NoHaxJustRadvylf Could you move these messages to the scrollchat room (or a new room if you like)?
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
aint that neat
 
user
user
@NoHaxJustRadvylf Didn't that exist already?
I could swear I've seen people with dark mode on their chromebooks
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
@user Yes, sort of, but it now does a lot more stuff
 
user
user
3:21 PM
Oh
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
@all I'm thinking of installing a different DE on my Pi, what would yall suggest?
 
user
user
KDE looks pretty if your Pi can handle it
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
Ugh I hate messing with desktop environment stuff
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
yea
I like linux because it gives me new and exciting ways to brick my computer
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
I remember I got KDE installed on my laptop a while back and then any time I'd try to turn it off it'd just freeze
 
user
user
3:23 PM
And all the good ones are bloated
@NoHaxJustRadvylf Was the laptop a really old one?
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
No, it was like a year old with all modern hardware
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
is there like a light image with KDE that I can install for testing?
rember it needs to be for ARM
 
Steffan
Steffan
@NoHaxJustRadvylf I've had KDE before and it was great even though people say it crashes
It depends on your computer
 
user
user
Yeah, it worked fine on my ~14 year old- computer, although it was a teeny bit slower
Customizing the widgets did make it glitch for a few seconds though
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
Apr 29, 2021 at 19:37, by pxeger
@RedwolfPrograms oh, one does not simply use power management in KDE ;)
I'm guessing there's some sort of setup I needed to do first or something
 
user
user
3:29 PM
Weird, maybe some distros do that setup for you
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
Yeah I'd assume they do
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
what specs did your laptop have? I'm worried that KDE might make my Pi just... die
 
user
user
LXQT isn't bad if you're worried about that
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
well the pi's default desktop is highly modified LXDE
I want another desktop primarily so I have GUI settings and notifications and stuff
 
user
user
Doesn't that look nice enough?
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
3:30 PM
@GingerBot Why are you messing around with DEs at all? I'd assume whatever the Pi comes with is fairly well optimized for a Pi's capabilities.
@GingerBot ah
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
example: default doesn't come with a notification daemon so I installed the one from xfce
 
user
user
I'm sure there are apps to install that let you do that
@GingerBot Eww, xfce
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
those notifications do look good tho
 
Steffan
Steffan
Xfce looks okay if you customize it for 8 hours
Which is a pain
 
Unrelated String
Unrelated String
any chance there are pre-customized versions somehow
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
3:51 PM
 
Seggan
Seggan
4:28 PM
o googles new language carbon looks nice
 
Seggan
Seggan
4:47 PM
its a nice mix of python, kotlin and c++ while leaving out the convoluted parts of c++
aww theyre using python style logical operators rather than c style
i.e. and, or, not instead of &&, ||, and !
 
Steffan
Steffan
5:03 PM
Does Jelly have an atom to remove a string from a string?
(Strings being charlists, it would be more like removing a sublist)
Like abcdabc, abc => d
 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
@Seggan are you sad for golf reasons or other reasons
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
@lyxal Nope, entirely intentional
 
Seggan
Seggan
5:41 PM
@thejonymyster both
i like the logicalness of && etc
 
DLosc
DLosc
@NoHaxJustRadvylf "Identity theft is not a joke, Jim!"
 
Hello, World!
Hello, World!
5:56 PM
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A: "Hello, World!"

SegganCarbon, 85 bytes package c api;import Console;fn Main()->i32{Console.Print("Hello, World!");return 0;} Carbon is a new language by Google, supposed to be a successor to C++. This is how I think it would be written; I don't actually have a compiler on hand. Pretty boilerplatey language, even long...

 
thejonymyster
thejonymyster
6:19 PM
@Hello,World! woooow carbon looks like it suuuucks it doesnt even have a hello world builtin
 
graffe
graffe
6:59 PM
Hello!
 
 
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graffe
graffe
8:23 PM
The periods of silence here worry me
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
Don't worry, we're not using that time to plot our revenge against Code Review
 
graffe
graffe
That was my main fear!
But please remind me again of the sins they have committed?
 
user
user
^ I'd like to work myself up into frothing fury but I'd like to know what's happened first
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
They take short code and add long, disgusting, readable variable names. They add unnecessary whitespace everywhere. They sacrifice binary size for performance. Ugh.
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user
user
We optimize performance in fastest-code challenges too
 
NoHaxJustRadvylf
NoHaxJustRadvylf
8:27 PM
Yeah yeah :p
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
imagine checking your code before running it! couldn't be me!
 
user
user
Although they do sometimes sacrifice both size (if we're talking interpreted languages) and performance for elegance
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
even worse, readable code is a sin upon this earth
 
user
user
in The 2nd Monitor, Aug 4 at 16:03, by konijn
Wot, dont be sorry. YOu saved me work. I think I will be sniping some zombies the coming weeks.
We need to be prepared before we go against these guys, seems they're tough enough to against zombies
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
fear not, we have butter and lyxal
that is all we need to destroy universes
 
user
user
8:30 PM
@GingerBot Nothing wrong with readable code. It's neither good nor bad. What matters is winning code golf challenges. Sacrificing conciseness for something else is a sin upon everything
@GingerBot Let's please destroy this universe then
 
Seggan
Seggan
We are...
Inevitable
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
 
user
user
Accept
I want nothing more
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
/srs if you're not joking go see a therapist /j
 
user
user
Why? I won't be saddened by your death /j
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
8:34 PM
I have no response for that.
 
user
user
Wait, the "You" in the message does refer to you and not whoever views the image, right?
 
graffe
graffe
@NoHaxJustRadvylf that is indeed sinful
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
it refers to you, user.
 
user
user
Welp, I'm not sure how to proceed then
If the killing involves death by chocolate, I'm all for it :P
Anything else and I can't really accept
 
graffe
graffe
Under 24 hours until I post my sandboxed question.... Still looking for comments !
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
8:36 PM
no you just disintegrate into a whiff of carbon and ozone
hol up someone wants serious cgcc stuff done time to be /srs for a sec
 
graffe
graffe
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

graffeWhen to give up and start again Consider the following setup. An evil wizard has ten opaque boxes in front of him. Hidden from you, he chooses a random number of coins \$x \in \{1 \dots 10\}\$ and spreads them uniformly at random in the boxes. That is, there should be equal probability of assig...

This part is worrying me "Hidden from you, he chooses a random number of coins x∈{1…10} and spreads them uniformly at random in the boxes. That is, there should be equal probability of assignment of coins to boxes from all possible assignments of x coins to 10 boxes"
Is it completely clear?
Hi @att
Sigh.... It's almost like people have more important things to do than help me :)
 
GingerBot
GingerBot
8:58 PM
today I learned that Gru is 14 feet tall
 
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