The Nineteenth Byte

12:01 AM

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Take as input an integer in any reasonable format. Then, output all the proper sub-strings of the base-10 digits of that integer that are powers of two, in any reasonable format. Test cases 10230 -> [1, 2] 13248 -> [32, 1, 2, 4, 8] 333 -> [] 331 -> [1] 32 -> [2] # As 32 is not a proper sub-string...

Wezl 'l o - o l'

2:08 AM

@user just a concept I hope to expand some day. The example shows BF commands as cards. The idea is you would collect cards throughout the game and customize your deck so that when you encounter puzzles (programming challenges), you can solve them in the least amount of cards (or solve them at all). I'm not completely sure that the cards-as-commands can work out but I'm guessing it's makeable

emanresu A

→ 7 chunks of code moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

@Wezl'lo-ol' Interesting! I'd make it a much less tarpitty lang

Maybe a golflang - maybe Vyxal?

Jo King

@Wezl'lo-ol' there's a couple of zachlikes in this style, but i don't know how well a deck builder would go

Wezl 'l o - o l'

@emanresuA Not a language that exists most likely. The cards would probably be made to fit the type of puzzles that need to be solved.

Jo King

a slay the spire with some sort of combo card style could be interesting

Wezl 'l o - o l'

*looks up slay the spire*

Jo King

2:15 AM

base it on APL where cards have two functions, and you can place three a turn to make a train

lyxal

@emanresuA w..why are we putting code in the dough mix?

emanresu A

We're not, it's code to fix the oven.

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal We're adding Java, its a coffee cake

Wezl 'l o - o l'

@JoKing I like the train idea especially

Jo King

"Monster Train" is already taken unfortunately

Wezl 'l o - o l'

2:26 AM

I already have an idea for the overworld of a rpg, I can definitely match it to any puzzle or combat system and not go wrong :P

thejonymyster

2:51 AM

@Wezl'lo-ol' literally want this so bad

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Q: What is a `4th generation golfing language`?

What is a 4th generation golfing language? Note that I am not asking for 4th generation coding language. I came across this question while viewing Code Golf Stack Exchange. Should I post it on Stack Exchange? Specifically, what is the difference between different generations of Golfing Languages?

discussion

PyGamer0

@DLosc i mean k uses that for assignment

thejonymyster

the word "assign"

Eman yalpsid

What is a 4th generation golfing language?
Note that I am not asking for 4th generation coding language.

Specifically, what is the difference between different generations of Golfing Languages?

thejonymyster

lol formatting

from what i gather the differences between "generations" is like... when the first few golfing langs came out, they were simple

then people were like "we can do better" and then made langs influenced by those langs but better

so thatd be the next generation

so its sort of like real life generations where its kind of arbitrary

Eman yalpsid

2:59 AM

UM WELL

can't i just go and say

my language is the 8th generation!!!

?

thejonymyster

well, youd have to show that there are 8427398739862377 previous generations

so there can never be more generations than there are golfing langs

emanresu A

My understanding is that:

thejonymyster

and then its a matter of like, grouping them more or less by when they came out / what they aim to be "golfier" than, perhaps

Eman yalpsid

oh btw, can someone help me golf this

for G in [1]*5:A,I=input(),int;l,N,B,Z=sum,'1234567890',I(A[0]),A.count;print(I(l([Z(n*2)for n in N]+[Z(o+p)*Z(p+o)*(p!=o)/2for o in N for p in N]))if B<2else(l([I(i)*(i[0]==max(N,key=lambda x:l([i[0]==x for i in A])*10-I(x)))for i in A.split(' ')[1:]])if B<3else l([Z(a+b)*Z(b+c)for a in N for b in N for c in N])))

thejonymyster

but take the stage emanresu

Eman yalpsid

3:01 AM

@thejonymyster wdym

what does emanresu A have to do with this

thejonymyster

he is starting to talk

and i think what he will say will be of great value to hear

emanresu A

- First gen is APL, J, Golfscript - langs that are obsolete in terms of golfing now
- Second gen aims to only have single-character builtins at the loss of syntax readability
- Third gen is the current generation of golflangs (Vyxal, Jelly, 05AB1E etc) - The same as the above but using SBCS, and with optimizations like implicit I/O.
- Fourth gen is what pxeger and radvylf are planning, pretty much the third gen but removing redundancy.
Pxeger's idea (called newspeak) is to use a special encoding that only allows builtins with usable types, creating a quite compressible statically-typed golf…

thejonymyster

>apl
>obsolete
:')

Eman yalpsid

@thejonymyster oh ok

thejonymyster

@emanresuA wtf that sounds hype

i dont understand newspeak yet though lol

Eman yalpsid

3:06 AM

is pxeger's idea sort of like

this does this given str+str and that given int+int and that given list+list and this given int+str

emanresu A

I think catstruct will ultimately be more powerful because newspeak doesn't deal with the problem of a trailing nilad which makes the rest of the program mostly redundant

caird coinheringaahing

"Fourth gen" is any lang that is to Jelly, Vyxal, Husk, 05AB1E as they are to CJam, Pyke, Seriously, Pyth

emanresu A

But pxeger might come up with a solution to that, ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster Barring the odd challenge, it is; APL mostly cannot compete in a byte-for-byte competition with Jelly or Vyxal

emanresu A

The fourth generation (or at least pxeger and Radvylf) seems focused on removing redundancy through complex, un-human-readable encodings.

thejonymyster

3:08 AM

sad!

caird coinheringaahing

It can present a challenge in array challenges to CJam, but otherwise, it's "obselete" as a competitive golfing lang

Eman yalpsid

@emanresuA maybe they could say

if this nilad trails, do this instead

make it a looping construct

caird coinheringaahing

Tbh, and I'd love to be proven wrong, but I suspect that fourth gen langs aren't going to be a thing

thejonymyster

i want to believe

Eman yalpsid

@emanresuA what i'm trying to do is less commands, more libraries, and an encoding based on how many libraries you use and base X numbers compressed to an image

and ideally a program cannot raise an error unless it explicitly tells it to

btw are flags counted in the bytecount?

caird coinheringaahing

3:11 AM

We'll probably get "3.5 gen" langs, where they're improvements on 3rd gen langs, taking advantage of common weaknesses etc. But I doubt we'll see a 3rd revolution in golfing, akin to the leaps forward by CJam/Pyth and by SCBS/Jelly

@Emanyalpsid No

Eman yalpsid

@cairdcoinheringaahing can i say -programthisisaprogramthatislikeaflag

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing Interesting perspective.

thejonymyster

@Emanyalpsid there are a few metas about that

DialFrost

Sup guys

Eman yalpsid

@thejonymyster where

thejonymyster

3:12 AM

meta

caird coinheringaahing

@Emanyalpsid You can, but a flag creates a new language, so, well done, you're now beating all other "-programthisisaprogramthatislikeaflag" answers, and every other answer is annoyed at you because that abuses the spirit of the game

DialFrost

@cairdcoinheringaahing hi caird!!!

thejonymyster

yeah the issue is you are making a lot of langs that are only good at doing one thing

caird coinheringaahing

@DialFrost Hi

thejonymyster

not a general golfing lang

Eman yalpsid

3:13 AM

@thejonymyster where where where where where...

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing Yeah, expect to get downvoted to oblivion

DialFrost

Hai eman! Ltns lol

thejonymyster

@Emanyalpsid this is one, i dunno if there are many others actually

DialFrost

Guys did anything change to the sites rules while i was gone?

caird coinheringaahing

So, the full thing about flags: 1) in [code-golf] a language only competes against answers in that same language, and 2) if you use a command line flag, it counts as a separate language. So, if you do make a lang where every answer is zero bytes, plus some flag, then yes, you win. But only in that language, which no one else will use, because it's zero bytes. But congrats on your "technically I win" win.
However, we aren't here to win by any means possible, we're here to try our best at golfing in our favourite languages. And, we think everyone else is, too. So, when an answer tries to do i…

thejonymyster

3:16 AM

@DialFrost users whose names start with d arent allowed to chat... uh oh...

caird coinheringaahing

@thejonymyster There's also the meta golfscript loophole that's kinda related

DialFrost

@thejonymyster funny

caird coinheringaahing

@DialFrost how long have you been gone for? :P

10 years? A lot. 6 months? Not really

DialFrost

Hehe like 2-4 months maybe

Wait no

1month or 2

caird coinheringaahing

Then no

DialFrost

3:18 AM

Aww ok

caird coinheringaahing

Doorknob is no longer a mod, and we have 3 new TNB ROs, but that's about it

emanresu A

@DialFrost Spreadsheet langs can now officially take input via specific cells, which they've been doing for years so whatever

Eman yalpsid

@cairdcoinheringaahing ok, take a less extreme situation

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing Oh yeah, that.

Eman yalpsid

program -ABC

wait can chinese characters be used as a plag?

thejonymyster

3:19 AM

@Emanyalpsid that happens

Eman yalpsid

-字符 ?

caird coinheringaahing

Depends if your system accepts them

Eman yalpsid

@thejonymyster so no penulty but it is a seperate lang? hmm

DialFrost

@cairdcoinheringaahing wat happened to doorknob?

Eman yalpsid

blind guess retired

DialFrost

3:20 AM

Inactive?

Eman yalpsid

IDreallymuchC

caird coinheringaahing

@DialFrost He's been inactive for a year, so was retired due to lack of activity

DialFrost

@cairdcoinheringaahing aww, whens the next mod election, maybe u xan sign up :P

Eman yalpsid

I was thinking of this case @cairdcoinheringaahing actually

caird coinheringaahing

Mod team is still running smoothly, so no election soon

Eman yalpsid

3:20 AM

This brings languages like C, where external libraries need to be specified on the command line (e.g. -lncurses) in line with languages like Python, where external libraries don't need to be explicitly specified via command-line arguments (if the package is installed, you can import it). This removes an unnecessary penalty for languages without automatic library discovery (and other similar features of which the absence necessitates additional command line arguments).

I'm trying to design a language like external libraries need to be specified on the command line

DialFrost

@cairdcoinheringaahing ic, would u sign up if u had the chance tho?

caird coinheringaahing

Unless I've gone inactive by the time the next mod election happens, yes, I'll probably run

Eman yalpsid

the next mod election happens: let me bet 3 months later at least

caird coinheringaahing

@Emanyalpsid That's fine. The current rulings around flags is just to prevent people trying to be "clever" by claiming 0 byte solutions that just off-load the code into the flags

Eman yalpsid

@cairdcoinheringaahing is that still the same lang?

@cairdcoinheringaahing does it count towards bytes

> wait can chinese characters be used as a flag?

for instance -字符 ?

caird coinheringaahing

3:23 AM

@Emanyalpsid That's not a bad guess; the last one was 21 months ago, in 3 months, that makes it 2 years, which is the standard schedule for elections

Eman yalpsid

btw 字符 means "character" but that's just a random example

or does it have to be ascii?

thejonymyster

@Emanyalpsid i would presume that it depends on the language itself

Eman yalpsid

unicode?

caird coinheringaahing

1) No, it's a different lang, but that probably doesn't matter, we're mainly all here to compete against ourselves
2) No, it doesn't count towards byte count
3) Depends if your system allows for unicode flags. I think Windows does, but I can't remember if it passes bytes or characters

thejonymyster

but yea, all flags cost 0 bytes

DialFrost

3:25 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing yay

caird coinheringaahing

@DialFrost Good to know I'll have at least one vote besides my own :P

PyGamer0

@Emanyalpsid but you pass those options to the compiler, not your program...

@cairdcoinheringaahing you will also have my vote :P

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing And mine

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~~And my axe~~ :P

And, thanks :P

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~~And my X and Y axes~~

Feb 4 at 8:41, by Bubbler

I'll chop you down with my X and Y-axes

DialFrost

3:40 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing hehe

Btw how old ru, or is that confidential :P

caird coinheringaahing

I'm 19

PyGamer0

i was about to guess 19

caird coinheringaahing

the amount of info I've shared online, my age is the least of my concerns :P

DialFrost

@cairdcoinheringaahing Wow hehe

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~~i still dont know your real name~~

caird coinheringaahing

3:44 AM

my real name is caird coinheringaahing, duh

lyxal

Obviously

PyGamer0

cant believe your real name is from a jelly answer :P

Radvylf Programs

Nah, caird's not their real first name, but coinheringaahing does happen to be caird's last name and the whole Jelly thing is just an unlikely coincidence.

lyxal

And we're all 19, because that's the age everyone is on the internet

PyGamer0

@lyxal no thats because you are in the nineteenth byte

Radvylf Programs

3:46 AM

I thought everyone was 18, not a cat, and an anime girl on the internet

7

Off-topic but just finished (the first 7 episodes of) S4 of Stranger Things and would recommend

Also have to go to sleep so o/

PyGamer0

o=/

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Q: Tips for golfing in J-uby

J-uby is the Language of the Month for June 2022, so I'm looking for tips for golfing in it. As usual, please post one tip per answer, and avoid general tips such as "remove whitespace" or "avoid comments".

code-golf tips

caird coinheringaahing

@RadvylfPrograms Sorry, no, I'm 19, and a catgirl, duh

@RadvylfPrograms my real first name is cared, but my parents decides "caird" would be a quirky way of spelling that

PyGamer0

wait really o_o

lyxal

can confirm

there totally isn't any way of quickly finding out caird's real name from anything like a chat bio btw

caird coinheringaahing

3:53 AM

@PyGamer0 what are you saying "wait really" to? :P

The first or second of those two messages? :P

DialFrost

@lyxal lmao

@RadvylfPrograms me be like 12pm in the afternoon

caird coinheringaahing

> The last message was posted 4149 days ago.

Damn, that might be the longest inactive room

WebApps - ask a moderator

Got a question for a moderator?

emanresu A

@cairdcoinheringaahing With the mobile chat, you can see all rooms including dead ones - maybe try one of those?

DialFrost

4:19 AM

Me forgot how to code after 2 months breh :/

caird coinheringaahing

> Recently active: 4237d ago, Ivo Flipse

Appears to be the longest inactive room

emanresu A

Hm okay

emanresu A

4:51 AM

@RadvylfPrograms goto sleep;

des54321

oh i should also goto sleep

emanresu A

Bye

Sandbox Posts

5:21 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Extracting nth character of FizzBuzz I was inspired by the challenge to output FizzBuzz as fast as possible. I have written and optimized some code to the degree that it computed the 10^1000000th character of FizzBuzz within 5 minutes (it's "7"). (Not the 10^1000000th line, this is the 10^1000000...

New Posts

5:34 AM

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Q: Count alternating permutations

Count alternating permutations code-golf permutations combinatorics number-theory sequence An alternating permutation is a permutation of the first \$ n \$ integers \$ \{ 1 ... n \} \$, such that adjacent pairs of values in the permutation alternate between increasing and decreasing (or vice vers...

code-golf sequence number-theory combinatorics permutations

Eman yalpsid

6:14 AM

@thejonymyster i mean, would -字符 be two flags or four

emanresu A

6:28 AM

Jo King

@Emanyalpsid how does it add up to 4?

and why does it matter?

Eman yalpsid

6:54 AM

@JoKing it is 4 byte

@JoKing well, just wondering

Jo King

@Emanyalpsid in what encoding? looks like 6 to me

really, it depends on whether the language handles flags bytes by byte or char by char

Eman yalpsid

@JoKing oh whatever nvm

@JoKing oh ok

are flags ordered?

Jo King

... if you want them to be

Eman yalpsid

oh ok

bye

o/

Jo King

there's not exactly a global standard on flags, just some recommended practices

\o

Eman yalpsid

6:58 AM

aye, i want to do something different

I'm upside down

o\

Jo King

i'm australian, so we're pretty close in orientation

physical orientation, at least

New Posts

8:56 AM

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Q: Durable Durations

Introduction Time is a really simple concept. Seconds pass, one after the other, all the same. But humans love making it hard. This Stackoverflow question has gathered many answers and even though they are surprisingly long and complex, most of them will still fail for certain inputs. Can you for...

code-golf string floating-point

Sandbox Posts

9:17 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Fill the square Challenge In this challenge, you have to fill an \$M\$ x \$N\$ rectangle with the most \$A\$ x \$B\$ rectangle pieces possible. Requirements: You can freely rotate the \$A\$ x \$B\$ rectangle pieces. Those \$A\$ x \$B\$ rectangle pieces cannot overlap each other. Those \$A\$ x \...

user

9:38 AM

@emanresuA ???

emanresu A

Robotics club lol

user

9:50 AM

Ah

Thought it was an announcement on SE

Do you do FRC?

emanresu A

What's that?

We're currently messing around with arduinos

user

10:05 AM

Cool

@emanresuA firstinspires.org/robotics/frc

You should try frc or ftc, it’s quite fun and there’s a huge community to help you

lyxal

10:17 AM

FTC stands for Flag the Capture, right?

user

First tech challenge

Like frc but easier

lyxal

⤵️

emanresu A

⤴️

lyxal

You frickers really ain't getting my jokes tonight

⤵️ is a visual representation of the joke as it goes over y'all's heads and into the void

user

No, you can’t put stuff in the void. It’s not an object or anything

Adám

10:33 AM

Let's not let this get out of hands, okay?

PyGamer0

@cairdcoinheringaahing second

PyGamer0

11:14 AM

The owner recieved noise complaints, set up a nanny cam. This is what they saw LOL

►

Ginger

Powerup inititated.

Unrelated String

11:30 AM

guess who just spent 8 hours straight setting up a standing desk

needless to say i'm not too much in the mood to use it after that :P

Ginger

I have no idea

who could it possibly be

mathcat

me neither

PyGamer0

@UnrelatedString lol

Unrelated String

don't let anyone tell you the lander desk takes 3 minutes to assemble
actually do because it usually does
just for some fucking reason it took me like an hour and a half to pop the leg lock in

Ginger

~~have you tried turning it off and on again~~

Unrelated String

11:33 AM

mix of tennis shoes, extra tight bracket, and i don't even know what else

(the rest of the time was moving my shit to it and dusting everything lmao)

mathcat

11:49 AM

@UnrelatedString totally not flexing, but I did it in 7 hours (⌐▨_▨)

lyxal

12:11 PM

just in regards to pinning the proposal for the make you a language on meta: I figured it'd be good to pin it just for that extra exposure

mathcat

do you mean Seggan?

lyxal

what? no. I was explaining why I pinned a message

mathcat

Ah now I see it

Also new hyper video!

thejonymyster

12:43 PM

@Emanyalpsid i don't actually use flags, i just know the way they're scored. we don't count number of flags for challenges in general. It could be interesting to see a language specific challenge where something relating to flags was scored, but it would be code-challenge and not code-golf

justANewb stands with Ukraine

@SandboxPosts this is a question I wrote

Any feedback?

lyxal

Will the AxB pieces ever be bigger than the MxN grid?

other than that, it looks good to me

justANewb stands with Ukraine

Uh no, should have specified that

Ginger

1:15 PM

bintus

Mayube

1:59 PM

happy timezone folks

PyGamer0

2:12 PM

happy timezone to you too :P

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

The Mongolian language has a called "vowel harmony". In short the vowel harmony means that certain vowels are not allowed to be placed next to each other in a word. This means that suffixes of words have to care about the vowels present in the words they attach to and need to resolve to a vowel...

justANewb stands with Ukraine

So the Make You a Lang For Great Good thinge, like I'm scared that if we just try to show off our languages

it will die soon

Mayube

yeah it needs some kind of agreed upon format

lyxal

2:28 PM

except it isn't just showing off languages - it's developing and innovating with others to build upon works in progress

Mayube

@lyxal provided people participate beyond just talking about their own creations

justANewb stands with Ukraine

yeah but

the thing i'm scared is after the hype has quiet down

Seggan

@Mayube my proposal rn is just a proposal; the format will be worked out if we agree it should happen

@justANewbstandswithUkraine tbh i have the same fear

justANewb stands with Ukraine

lets say that all the language has been developed to some extent

pp just wont make new languages

maybe we do something like for 1 month we all collaborate on making a new language

Mayube

@Seggan Oh I know. I'm 100% on board with the proposal

lyxal

2:30 PM

@justANewbstandswithUkraine well I'm definitely gonna keep it going for a while - even if only for personal benefits

Seggan

@justANewbstandswithUkraine tbh language dev wont stop for a while

Mayube

yeah I'm not worried about language dev stopping

I'm worried about this turning into every music community I've ever joined, where everyone asks for feedback and nobody gives it.

Granted I have more faith in the CGSE community than those music groups

justANewb stands with Ukraine

yeah agree

lyxal

Maybe during the event, feedback requests get pinned to the starboard for extra visibility?

or maybe there could be a "hyperping" command to get the attention of those willing to give feedback

Seggan

either of those would work

@Mayube is not the entire SE community subject to that risk? this is what the entire network is about

lyxal

2:35 PM

an example of a hyperping for y'all non-vyxalers:

It'd be an opt-in list of people notified upon each feedback request

Seggan

why are there 2 lyxals

lyxal

besides, I can think of at least 5 languages that would have developers asking for feedback each MYAL, so hype probably shouldn't be a problem

@Seggan one's the reply, the other is because I'm on the ping list

justANewb stands with Ukraine

that's a possible (and very good) idea of sloving that

lyxal

it usually works well for bringing attention to things when it's been used

so it would probably work for the event too

obviously permissions for who can user the hyperping would have to be discussed

but that could be a thing where people would apply to have hyperping privileges (assuming it's bot controlled)

justANewb stands with Ukraine

@lyxal I think ROs will be fine

lyxal

2:40 PM

but what if there isn't an active RO at the time of a feedback request?

like as soon as I leave in a few minutes for sleep, there'll be no active RO in the room for a little bit

by "active" I mean active in the last little while

Mayube

Rad's usually on around this time

and for that matter you're usually gone by this time

lyxal

alright alright I'll be off now

o/ nerds and gamers

Seggan

adios

justANewb stands with Ukraine

o/ bye

Mayube

sleep tight!

don't let the code bugs bite

8

hyper-neutrino

2:49 PM

if there aren't ROs online you can always just ping me although sometimes SE chat doesn't like to send the sound so I won't always see it

Mayube

@hyper-neutrino I was gunna say what about when you're asleep but you're in Canadia so any time you're asleep Lyxal is awake, and any time he's awake he's in here :P

hyper-neutrino

and also the time I go to sleep varies between like 1 and 5 AM

but yes, when I'm asleep lyxal should be online :P

Wezl 'l o - o l'

let's not make any assumptions about whether the people chatting here are awake or asleep

hyper-neutrino

lol

Wheat Wizard

zzzzzzzz

PyGamer0

2:53 PM

@Wezl'lo-ol' well i am clearly asleep

no doubt about that

thejonymyster

3:42 PM

now what on earth is this javascript?

Mayube

@thejonymyster o.o

I've never seen an array used to index into itself

pxeger

@lyxal I may not be entirely active all day, but if you ping me I'm likely to see it fairly quickly

thejonymyster

@Mayube i was messing with what indices were allowed, and that surprised me too but it just stringifies it i guess?

Mayube

@thejonymyster if you json stringify t you just get []

pxeger

@NewPosts @hyper-neutrino can you 11 this to be more legible pinned on the starboard?

thejonymyster

3:45 PM

@Mayube right, and if you look at the output of the code there it console.logs what you might expect, but the stringify leaves it completely empty yea

Mayube

@pxeger oh hey look it's my ~~favorite~~ equally-liked-as-much-as-the-others RO!

thejonymyster

i wonder if i could use this in a cop or something :P

pxeger

@Mayube implicit stringification in JS doesn't normally use JSON. For arrays, it will join on , so [1,2,3] + '' === '1,2,3' and [] + '' === ''

Mayube

@pxeger i know. I meant if you json stringify the array after you've done t[t] = 1, it just totally ignores the index. Maybe because json doesn't support empty keys?

pxeger

@Mayube why am I your favourite, when I've barely performed any RO actions yet?

ah I see

Mayube

3:47 PM

@pxeger you were my favourite before you became RO ;)

Seggan

argh the non-american way of spelling "favorite"

pxeger

@Mayube lol why?

Mayube

@Seggan what'd you expect from a brit? :P

pxeger

@Seggan you are now my ~~least favourite~~ equally-hated-as-much-of-the-others TNB user!

Seggan

appreciate it

please fix your spelling

thejonymyster

3:49 PM

@Mayube now how can we abuse this inconguity

pxeger

@Mayube JSON thinks it's still an array, so it will only include numeric keys

Mayube

@pxeger dunno how to explain it, you just have that blunt, no-nonsense attitude that reminds me of home

pxeger

oh you like my snark?

May 10 at 12:12, by lyxal

That's the pxeger snark I know and love

Mayube

It's british snark, we don't get much of that in Canada. I miss it sometimes

thejonymyster

@pxeger ah yeah, i just tried with 'hi' and it also didnt work

pxeger

3:51 PM

the JSON output is [], not {}

Mayube

yeah that makes sense

thejonymyster

how would i turn an array with string keys into a string then? or should i be using an object in that case :P

pxeger

yes, you definitely should

thejonymyster

thanks :

PyGamer0

@Seggan imo favourite is better

in Wellscripted, 33 mins ago, by PyGamer0

val collatz = (n: Integer) -> {
    var ar = [];
    while (n > 1) ar.push(n =
        ar % 2 ?
        1 + 3 * n :
        n / 2
    );
    return ar;
}

^ how does that look?

hyper-neutrino

4:06 PM

@pxeger done

would be nice if lone SE links would appear as their titles on the starboard

Seggan

@PyGamer0 looks logical and perfectly sensible

pxeger

@hyper-neutrino thanks

PyGamer0

we have LYXAL now meet MYXAL his evil twin

Seggan

thats kinda wrong

PyGamer0

t'was a joke

in Wellscripted, 35 secs ago, by des54321

having arrays sometimes evaluate to their last element might be a fun feature, but it feels more like something for rSNBATWPL than for this

@RadvylfPrograms ^

des54321

4:13 PM

another thing that might be fun is having arrays evaluate as their length if they need to be casted to a number

Wezl 'l o - o l'

@PyGamer0 I agree, because it emphasises that the "our" is pronounced like you would pronounce "our" as its own word. Same for emphasise / emphasise. Emphasise emphasizes that you pronounce "is" as "is" while emphasize makes it seem like you would pronounce the "size" as "size" :P

fave our it

emphas is e

PyGamer0

emphas is E

Seggan

your pronounce it differently then

i pronounce it fayv-or-it

PyGamer0

empha size sounds better

Ginger

I just discovered chrome does this:

pxeger

4:15 PM

@Seggan I think wezl was being sarcastic

PyGamer0

~~i think wezl was wezl~~

Seggan

guess i dont understand sarcasm in chat lol

Wezl 'l o - o l'

@pxeger I like "sarcastic". I like how it emphasisez how you pronounce "as" as "as" ::P

PyGamer0

@Wezl'lo-ol' lol

user

4:58 PM

@Seggan I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that

Usually, it sounds something like "fave-uh-ret"

Mayube

@Seggan sarcasm's hard to read through text

user

Often in real life, too

Ginger

5:12 PM

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mathcat

Did you encode your root password?

Ginger

that's ~~my private key~~

Wezl 'l o - o l'

I don't think the asterisks work for things that long

Ginger

Idea: a YouTube bot that uploads random noise

mathcat

already happened before

Ginger

5:22 PM

not what I meannt

Wheat Wizard

5:52 PM

@NewPosts With regards to this:

The OEIS says this is the same as:
Number of sequences (e(1), ..., e(n-1)), 0 <= e(i) < i, such that no three terms are equal. [Theorem 7 of Corteel, Martinez, Savage, and Weselcouch] - Eric M. Schmidt, Jul 17 2017
Does anyone understand what this means?

Ginger

nope

Wheat Wizard

Thank you for speaking for everyone.

Ginger

nobody else has spoken!

Seggan

he only spoke for half of us; i speak for the other half: no

Wheat Wizard

Clearly expecting useful on-topic discussion from tnb was too much.

Mayube

5:57 PM

@WheatWizard I feel like I kind of understand what it's saying, but not well enough to explain it to somebody else or put it into practice... which I guess is a long-winded way of saying I don't understand it

Ginger

@WheatWizard I was simply answering the question!

Wheat Wizard

It seems straightforward. It's the number of non-negative sequences, where each element is less than it's index, and no number appears 3 or more times. However this interpretation is obviously wrong since it gives completely different values even for small n.

Seggan

brain breaks

Ginger

oh

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