The Nineteenth Byte

Fmbalbuena

12:00 AM

@Adám lol i already posted

Bgil Midol

thanks

Adám

@Fmbalbuena Yes, but I figured an illustration as to where that would be found, might help.

Bgil Midol

@Adám How did you turn on dark mode?

Fmbalbuena

@BgilMidol i don't like dark mode

Adám

@BgilMidol Click your profile pic > Settings > Appearance.

Bgil Midol

12:04 AM

ok

Adám

@BgilMidol I have to ask, does your user name mean "at the age of modelling"?

Bgil Midol

no

@Adám github or chat or site?

Adám

What does it mean, then?

Fmbalbuena

why Bgil Midol?

Adám

@BgilMidol Here.

Bgil Midol

12:06 AM

The katlani translation of Grand Bagel

Fmbalbuena

...

Adám

Oh.

Fmbalbuena

CMC: Odd or even?

Turing Machine:

0 0 0 r 1
0 _ 1 * halt
1 0 0 r 0
1 _ 0 * halt

Wheat Wizard

You only need two states for a odd even test I'm pretty sure.

Fmbalbuena

morphett.info/turing/…

Wheat Wizard

12:14 AM

How are you defining TM?

Fmbalbuena

@WheatWizard Link

Wheat Wizard

How are you inputting an integer?

And outputting a value?

Fmbalbuena

@WheatWizard Unary integer

@WheatWizard The current symbol when the program halts is a output

hyper-neutrino

don't you only need to define two states and two transitions going back and forth when the tape value is 1?

Fmbalbuena

@hyper-neutrino because i like TM. I'm learning TM.

@hyper-neutrino This should work

0 0 _ r 1
0 _ 1 * halt
1 0 _ r 0
1 _ 0 * halt

emanresu A

12:21 AM

Redwolf: Who thinks I can fit 15 marshmallows in my mouth?
Lyxal: You’re a hazard to society
Razetime: And a coward. DO TWENTY.

Wheat Wizard

Here's mine:

0 1 0 r 1
1 0 1 * 2
1 1 1 r 0

Halts with an error.

Fmbalbuena

@WheatWizard This does nothing, only error

Wait, i have to put 1?

Wheat Wizard

It assumes at least a 0 at the end of the input.

But you can fix that by replacing one of the 0s with a _ and outputting either a 1 or a _.

I generally prefer to just treat it like a two symbol machine instead of that nonsense.

Fmbalbuena

I found a hard problem: Design a Turing Machine to generate a copy of a string with symbols {A,B,C}. For instance, given
the input “bAABCAb”, the resulting input tape would be “bAABCAAABCAb”, where b represents
the blank symbol.

Wheat Wizard

This is not that hard.

Adám

12:28 AM

@EiríkrÚtlendi Hej.

Fmbalbuena

@WheatWizard I have to be Meta-Programmer.

emanresu A

Great, reddit's down

(sorta)

lyxal

oh wow it's not just me

thank frick for that

Fmbalbuena

@emanresuA Let's Raise Reddit

emanresu A

Someone probably forgot a semicolon

Fmbalbuena

12:33 AM

@emanresuA wdym?

user

@emanresuA If they're small enough, 15 should be easy. I happened to get a bunch of small marshmallows today, maybe I should go for 20

Fmbalbuena

Fmalbuena: Hello
lyxal: Hello, World!
Fmbalbuena: Are you AI enthusiast?
lyxal: Yes
Fmbalbuena: I am
Fmbalbuena: I am a bot
lyxal: I am a bot
Fmbalbuena: I am a bot

Ok, last one:

Neil: I love Charcoal
Neil: I think I will do Retina to post A answer to a CGCC Challenge
[Posts Retina Answer]
Neil: And i will post a Charcoal answer
[Posts Charcoal Answer]
New Posts: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/1678/…
Fmbalbuena: @NewPosts TLDR: I'm not sure if this is the best way to do it, but I think it's the best way to do it.

Eiríkr Útlendi

@Adám Hej og goddag! Hvad kan jeg gøre for dig?

(Just got your ping, sorry for the lag.)

Adám

Ingen problemer. Jeg syntes bare det var sjovt at kunne forstå dit navn.

Eiríkr Útlendi

12:49 AM

Hehehe! Jeg er glad at for more. :)

Adám

Jeg misunder dig også at du kan så mange sprog.

Eiríkr Útlendi

Undskyld, at mit dansk ikke er særlig godt; mit japansk er meget bedre.

Fmbalbuena

@EiríkrÚtlendi これはチャットではありませんStack Overflow

Adám

@EiríkrÚtlendi No problem. But how is your Icelandic?

(Not that I know any. It is just a cool language.)

Eiríkr Útlendi

Og jeg kan faktisk ikke tale islandsk, men jeg kan bruge en ordbog. :)

Adám

12:56 AM

Andet end ordene selv, er det jo ikke så forskelligt fra dansk.

Eiríkr Útlendi

@Fmbalbuena, 勿論。ただ ping に答えているだけです。

Adám

I'm only comfortable in 5 languages, but it isn't every day I meet someone I could speak with in 3 of those.

Fmbalbuena

アダムは日本語を学ばないので日本語は話せないと思います

Adám

@Fmbalbuena Do you know Japanese or are you using a translation service?

Fmbalbuena

@Adám i'm using translation service

OldSandboxPosts

1:00 AM

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Help Bob split his apples, Prime Number Fibonacci, BCD to binary, with bitwise, In need of title.

Adám

Mein Deutsch is nicht gut aber man kann mir verstehen.

Eiríkr Útlendi

Genau, ich kann Dich leicht verstehen, kein Problem!

¡Que fabuloso! Si deseas continuar, ¿cambiamos a otro canal?

hyper-neutrino

我一点也看不懂你们在说啥lol

Adám

Anyway, jeg går i seng nu. Gute nacht!

Eiríkr Útlendi

@hyper-neutrino 很好!

@Adám: お休み / buenas noches / jó éjszakát / godnat!

hyper-neutrino

1:09 AM

@Adám 晚安！

Ginger Industries

1:20 AM

> Ginger: Lyxal... How do I begin to explain Lyxal?
> Redwolf: Lyxal is flawless.
> emanresu: I hear their hair's insured for $10,000.
> hyper: I hear they do car commercials... in Japan.
> user: One time they punched me in the face... it was awesome.

@lyxal is this true

DLosc

@Adám Ja, ich verstehe. Mein Deutsch ist auch nicht gut. ^_^

emanresu A

Well, there's also this:

Redwolf: What do you think Lyxal will do for a distraction?
Razetime: They’ll probably, like, make a noise or throw a rock. That’s what I would do.
*Building explodes and several car alarms go off*
Razetime: ... or they could do that.

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA I need to make a character alignment chart for TNB, one sec

emanresu A

-5

Q: May the beauty products not harm the skin?

As I heard that many of the beauty products harm the skin so please help to find best skin care products!

Wtf

Ginger Industries

@emanresuA ಠ_ಠ

DLosc

1:26 AM

@DLosc SEDE query for long posts to look for nominees for Best Explanation

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA This is what we call "spam"

Ginger Industries

need someone for Neutral Evil

hmmm

lyxal

@GingerIndustries probably

Ginger Industries

and there you have it

signing off for now, see yall later

lyxal

@emanresuA I feel like this suits me perfectly

DLosc

1:34 AM

@GingerIndustries Lol! Several of those make a lot of sense, TBH

emanresu A

Lol

caird coinheringaahing

1:52 AM

@GingerIndustries wait, I'm chaotic good?

hyper-neutrino

here's a fun thing about the new front page display

unless you have it hide them completely, posts with ignored tags take up more space than other posts

emanresu A

...

Wheat Wizard

@cairdcoinheringaahing Most improved and trickiest challenge are contested now!

caird coinheringaahing

I mean. I mainly play CG/CN characters in D&D, but I wouldn't consider myself to be CG or CN

@WheatWizard Feel free to edit my message, being a mod and all ;)

Wheat Wizard

I consider myself to be chaotic-chaotic.

hyper-neutrino

1:53 AM

i hardly ever find alignment chart categories to work too well for people :P idk what i'd put caird down as if i had to pick one

caird coinheringaahing

@WheatWizard ...honestly, from what I know about you, that tracks

hyper-neutrino

i want to be TN cuz i think it sounds cool but TBH i have no clue what i'd be lol

caird coinheringaahing

I think I'd be neutral good in that I generally aim to do what I believe is morally good, but my morals don't necessarily align with what people generally assign to "good"

hyper-neutrino

a discord server recently put me down as TN at least in comparison to other staff but also they have conspiracy theories that i'm either a robot, part of anonymous, or bill gates, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

as far as I remember, lawful/chaotic refer to alignment with a particular moral code regardless of if it's "good" or not (so mafia members would be lawful because they follow their mafia's code / rules) and good/evil refers to willingness to sacrifice oneself for others or vice versa

caird coinheringaahing

E.g. shoplifting is 100% fine IMO, and if I work at the shop and see it, I don't care, so long as the shop is sufficiently latge

hyper-neutrino

1:56 AM

since morals are too subjective. but i forget if this is actually how it works, lol

caird coinheringaahing

Actually, I think I may really be CG, but meh :P

emanresu A

Lyxal's all of them imo

caird coinheringaahing

So long as your actions positively impact someone who needs a positive impact, I support them, even if they violate standard moral rules

emanresu A

^

caird coinheringaahing

That said, it feels as tho this is common among millennials/gen Z :P

user

1:59 AM

@GingerIndustries how tf am i neutral evil

caird coinheringaahing

So "lawful" vs "chaotic" shifts over time, depending on the general interpretation of morals at any given time

user

I would call myself chaotic or true neutral

caird coinheringaahing

@GingerIndustries Honestly, I'd place Redwolf as NE ("Watch me do some crazy stupid shit with JS") and user as TN (tbh, it seems as tho whatever the topic, user will go along with it)

user

Also, how is unrelated evil?

caird coinheringaahing

No, I get unrelated as LE :P

No one has introduced me to more cursed Jelly than unrelated

user

2:03 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing hey, i don’t go along with everything, I’m my own person, a unique snowflake!

caird coinheringaahing

@user you go along with anything, while adding your own spin to it :P

True neutral :P

New Bounties With No Deadlines

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A: List of bounties with no deadline

500-2500 reputation for a non-trivial answer to Pristine Polyglots The current - and only - answer is fairly trivial, exploiting the fact that multiple shell languages have almost identical behaviour for the echo. I offer 500 reputation for an answer that uses 3 or more different languages such t...

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing hrmph, i would like one example of this

lyxal

@user this conversation

user

I am a snowflake

emanresu A

2:07 AM

@NewBountiesWithNoDeadlines Impossible in any golflang pretty much

lyxal

@user no, you're user.

user

@lyxal i have disagreed with people throughout this conversation

I contested my and unrelated’s classifications

@lyxal 🤬

I see that y’all are silent because i beat you so thoroughly with fats and logic 🥸

lyxal

Nah I'm silent because I'm uploading a sh*tpost to YouTube

user

Now your alignment is one I agree with

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Which is why I'm offering 2.5k

@user Browse the TNB wiki. Most of the topics involve you contributing :P

emanresu A

2:26 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Um, does an answer where everything outputs newlines count as trivial?

Oh wait you have criteria

lyxal

youtube.com/shorts/LAG_W8hUQ64

Shorts don't onebox

caird coinheringaahing

@emanresuA Yes, see the existing answer

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@lyxal Well duh, neither do pants or skirts for that matter

l4m2

Is it named: randomly choose a program, the probable that it does the intended work, logarithmed(maybe base 1/256 or something)?

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Ooh, TIL you can add a few lines to your SSH config, so that ssh xyz is a shortcut for ssh -p [port] [user]@[xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx] (or whatever command you usually have to use)

emanresu A

2:38 AM

Ugh ><> is hard

hyper-neutrino

@taRadvylfsriksushilani i just have some commands in my bashrc that ssh to something i want lmfao

so like serv SSHs to my server

uw SSHs to my university

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I used to have something like that, but this feels like so much less of a hack lol

It'll be especially useful because I often SSH over a proxy, which requires like a 100 character command line argument to configure

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

3:11 AM

Well, I now have 2/4 of my websites running properly on my new server

hyper-neutrino

nice!

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

And since amidst.dev and rto.run are currently just "this page is under construction" messages, I probably don't need to bother with those for now

emanresu A

@NewBountiesWithNoDeadlines I'll come back to this mess later

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Dealing with Nginx + Certbot + SELinux is so much fun, especially when the original config was done by 6th grade redwolf who had no clue and liked PHP way too much

I've moved away from both the www. prefix, and PHP

Razetime

my eyes, they burn

emanresu A

3:14 AM

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Same :P

(PHP, I've never liked www.)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Back when browsers still showed the whole URL, redwolfprograms.com just looked to empty to me

emanresu A

CMC: Give Lyxal control of your website's homepage.

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Unfortunately I had no clue how to do the redirects properly, so my configs did some horrible, like war-crime level, stuff to get it to work for all the permutations of http/https, www/no-www, and the different websites I had

emanresu A

Me when just using surge.sh

Because I'm too lazy to get a server

@taRadvylfsriksushilani Use regex ;)

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@emanresuA Just take advatage of the security vulnerability I discovered in one of my sites

A CSRF+XSS+directory traversal+bad file permissions, for quadruple points

(I had some weird HTML file that allowed you to inject arbitrary cookies, with all CORS/CSRF protections manually disabled. You could use that to do an XSS, and change a cookie relating to some image locations, which allowed directory transversal to some important unprotected files that would let you SSH into the server)

emanresu A

3:24 AM

I only had an XSS - /login?err=

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I did the galaxy brain strat and made all of the security vulnerabilities at once, so I can get them all out of the way

Razetime

{a⊑˜⊑⍒+´¨a←𝕩⊸{(3⥊¯1+1⊸⊑)⌾(𝕩⊸⊏)𝕨}¨(1-˜≠𝕩)⌊0⌈¯1‿0‿1⊸+¨⊒˜𝕩} @DLosc help me squish this squish function

emanresu A

Wait no I had another one

You could write to files that contained .png in their filename

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

._.

Please tell me this was contained to a specific directory, and that they had to be pre-existing files?

emanresu A

Nope

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

3:29 AM

If you had something like PHP installed, .png.php would be probably pretty easy to compromise things with

emanresu A

It was a php server

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

lol

Honestly, PHP isn't really that good of an idea

Putting the code in the same directory as the static data is really dangerous

emanresu A

Yeah

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Because if someone gets access to your web root, in theory all they can do is mess with the HTML, images, JS, that sort of stuff. But with PHP, they can inject arbitrary code onto your server.

Doing it with something like Node is much saner, where all the moving parts are isolated from the web root

Razetime

anyone got a userscript to revert to old SE UI

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

3:35 AM

I'm going to update to Windows 11 now I guess

Chrome OS, server edition

That would be like...the ultimate shitpost of an operating system

emanresu A

Weirdest. Subreddit. Ever

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

Hmm. Windows 11 is definitely a downgrade in the visuals department...

(aside from the new font)

Razetime

@emanresuA you have used r/ooer right

emanresu A

Nope, should I check that out?

Razetime

yes you should

lyxal

3:50 AM

TIL I never actually set up my voicemail

emanresu A

what have I seen

Razetime

@emanresuA you're welcome!

emanresu A

TIL Google thinks I'm in London

So everything thinks I'm in london

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

4:08 AM

What are you doing in London? (I heard you were there)

emanresu A

Guys, redwolf's a bot

lyxal

4:22 AM

@taRadvylfsriksushilani What are ~~you doing in~~ London? (I heard you ~~were there~~)

emanresu A

ParseError on line 394: Grammarn't

What sort of expression is n^(1+1/n)?

It feels like it should be e or somethiing but it's not

lyxal

Okay so remember how I said I only realised I hadn't set up my voicemail today?

Well I set it up

And I had 3 new voice messages

2 of them were from the same company

And uh

It thought that the generic prompt it gave when leaving a voicemail was someone calling them

That or they really need to fix their voicemail leaving service

emanresu A

@lyxal Oh, is that where all the supressed error messages from Vyxal go?

lyxal

Because the voice message was just "if you want to do <such and such> press 2. Else if you want to speak to an operator, press 9"

Like how tf I'm gonna press 9 to speak to an operator on a fricking voicemail

emanresu A

...

lyxal

4:36 AM

mmm I know

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@emanresuA A very weird one

lyxal

@taRadvylfsriksushilani I have a copy of your original pawprint pfp

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I do too, dw

lyxal

oh

dang

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I like this one more :p

emanresu A

4:43 AM

Remember the great profile swap?

lyxal

here's me thinking my storage of old pictures for meme purposes could actually be helpful

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

@emanresuA We should do an even greater one

With like 10 users, and you only know whose pfp you're taking

emanresu A

Yeah

lyxal

I'd be in for that

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

(Everyone would upload their pfp to a google drive folder or something, and then we could use a consensus RNG system to decide who becomes who, without even knowing who fake-us actually is)

emanresu A

4:44 AM

I'm not setting this up but I'll happily join iin

lyxal

@taRadvylfsriksushilani one person could volunteer to distribute all the pfps

They would know who the fake is

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

I'll design a decentralized RNG system

No need to have the fun spoiled for someone

lyxal

Besides it's easy to figure out who's who from their cg posts

emanresu A

and rep

lyxal

That too

And then there's also chat room activity too

Chat stores your previous username in transcript

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

4:47 AM

Maybe I'll just post a short program that generates a deterministic shuffling, and we can just choose not look at anyone's results but our own if we don't want to spoil it

emanresu A

Still...

I'ma change back to my old PFP

Wait...

That might be kinda tricky

ta Radvylf srik su shilani

What will

DLosc

@Razetime Whoa. Is that for this question, I'm guessing?

emanresu A

I'll have to find it

DLosc

@lyxal ඞ

emanresu A

4:50 AM

@DLosc kinda sus

Nov 22 '21 at 8:44, by New Posts

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Q: Will one-cell brainfuck halt?

Brainfuck is an esoteric programming language that is Turing Complete, meaning you can't tell whether a given program will halt without running it. It's cell-based and has an infinite tape of cells, values containing an unsigned integer from 0 to 255, but if you give it arbitrary-size cells, just...