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3:00 PM
in that sense, if someone bullies me i can say Everyone bullies me in this world >:/
lol
 
@PyGamer0 So the winner is True

The Nineteenth byte = The APL Orchard?

31 mins ago, 29 minutes total – 70 messages, 3 users, 1 star

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Too late, you can't say 0
 
0
 
@PyGamer0 Nope, you can't say that TNB is TAO
 
@GingerIndustries Hello
 
3:05 PM
@Fmbalbuena 0
 
@PyGamer0 stop, please
 
The Anteenth Oyte?
 
lma0
 
@GingerIndustries No, The APL Orchard = The Nineteenth Byte
 
2nd message of the day starred, things are looking up
 
3:07 PM
lets Ask Adám™
lol
 
@Adám The Nineteenth byte = The APL Orchard?
 
ok enough of dumb talk
i have my math exam tomorrow
 
@PyGamer0 what do you mean dumb, we have interesting and intellectually stimulating conversations here at The Anteenth Oyte
 
i wrote mine some days ago
 
@GingerIndustries lmao anteenth oyte
 
3:11 PM
@mathcat Did you summon the Oracle some time ago?
if so please re-ask your question, I wasn't listening
 
Oracle: Is TNB TAO?
 
@PyGamer0 Yes
Idea: Bring GingerBot in here and have it be the Oracle when I'm not available
 
Yoú can´t pars---c--- ---II---TML With règÊx, BècÄusË HTml CÂm`t parsed Bÿ r~~~C~~~gex.
 
Oracle: Is The Ninteenth Byte also The APL Orchard?
@Fmbalbuena what are you trying to do?
 
@PyGamer0 No
 
3:13 PM
@Fmbalbuena ^
 
@GingerIndustries heck ginger industries edit No => Yes
 
lol its been 2 minutes
 
ok
then
@PyGamer0 Yes
@PyGamer0 Yep
 
Weird Wikipedia articles #1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_8-ball#Live-action_film_adaptation
 
thats not the oracle
 
3:16 PM
@PyGamer0 But this is too late, You can't say False.
 
@Fmbalbuena i can however say 0
0
 
@PyGamer0 then TAO = TNB is still true
 
how?
 
> Too late, you can't say 0
 
but i can say []
[]
 
3:18 PM
0 and related Falses
 
UnTrue :)
 
@PyGamer0 This is False related.
 
i am winning
 
CMQ: Should we bring GingerBot in here and have it fill in for me as the Oracle of Truth?
 
@Fmbalbuena oh but what about
True /s
 
3:19 PM
@PyGamer0 /s?
 
hehe
its sarcastically
 
This is True related
 
no its not
sarcasm
r/watonearthishappeningintnb
 
@PyGamer0 I don't trust reddit
 
@PyGamer0 r/birthofasub
 
3:21 PM
@Fmbalbuena but do you trust Rick Astley?
 
I'll ask GingerBot about TNB and TAO
 
@PyGamer0 No
 
do you trust lyxal?
 
@PyGamer0 yes, but not Everything with "r" except words in the dictionary (official).
 
hi i am pygamer brother
@lyxal ^
 
3:25 PM
@PyGamer0 really?
 
@Fmbalbuena yes that was him
 
@GingerIndustries Update: GingerBot is offline.
 
@JsBro1 hey
@GingerIndustries so TAO = TNB
 
bruh to avoid breaking my head
 
@Fmbalbuena No, no answer was available.
 
3:28 PM
i am leaving o/
 
@PyGamer0 \º
 
@PyGamer0 \o
 
@Fmbalbuena Uh, no. Why would you think so?
 
@PyGamer0 You really need a better password lol
 
CMQ: Anyone want to help me with fixing up @GingerBot?
 
3:30 PM
@Adám +/'TNB'='TAO' gives 1
 
@GingerIndustries Sure, where's the repo?
@Fmbalbuena The usual way to do that would be with
 
@user It's in an org. One sec while I get you set up
@user Username?
 
@Fmbalbuena Yeah, but that's a mistake. It should say ∧/'TNB'='TAO'
 
10. link to repo
@Adám ok, ∨/'TNB'='TAO' gives 1, because T = T
 
3:32 PM
But that isn't what I wrote. is AND.
 
@user Sent. I'll assign you to some issues, one sec
 
Aight
 
11. link sent
@Adám No, T = T, N ≠ A, B ≠ O. T is T
 
@user Need the link?
 
Yeah, I don't see any notifications
 
3:34 PM
12. Need the link?
 
Joined
 
If you ask if there are any equalities between TNB and TAO, then the answer is yes.
 
@user You've been assigned some stuff
 
Ah I see
 
@GingerIndustries Why you closed? the issue is open until the bug is fixed
 
@GingerIndustries yeah me too
 
@mathcat ok one sec
 
@GingerIndustries I can fix IF i understand the code.
 
3:46 PM
@mathcat Invite sent. Once you accept I'll assign you some stuff
 
ok
 
@GingerIndustries Does WR: OVERRIDE word work as override syntax?
 
@user Example?
 
@GingerIndustries I will join
 
Like the normal word request syntax but with OVERRIDE before the word
 
3:50 PM
@user I don't like that. Ideally replying to the error message with @OVERRIDE would be what we use.
 
:(
 
@mathcat I've given you an assignment.
 
Well I have no idea how to look at the last message and override that, so imma leave that up to you and Redwolf to do
in TNB Conlang (katlani), 1 min ago, by user
WR: OVERRIDE eeee (n): Horrors from the bowels of the earth
 
@user okay ig. Remove that code and I'll merge the rest.
 
Done, hope that helps
 
3:56 PM
@user Merged.
 
@GingerIndustries So if a user types @REMOVE, then the program has to search all of the messages in the chat, to check if it's the same user?
 
@mathcat LyxaLib has an event for replies.
 
yes
but
You said only remove the word, if the same user created the word, that has to be removed or if the user who's typing the command is an RO?
right?
 
@mathcat correct. The event data includes the user id of the replier.
 
@mathcat no it doesn't have to search all the messages in chat, it can just pull from the transcript
 
4:01 PM
Um I don't know how, so I'll just check if the user's an RO for now
 
@mathcat good point. The bot will store the poster's user ID along wth the rest of the data in the cache, and use that to check. I've actually already implemented part of this.
 
oh, I see
okay
I'll do it then
 
@mathcat noice
 
But don't expect it to work :P
 
@mathcat this is a Ginger Industries product, mediocrity is our highest honor™
 
4:10 PM
not only remove from queue, but also remove from markdown right?
 
@mathcat ??? Only queued words can be removed. Once it's in the doc, it's out of the bot's jurisdiction.
 
oh
right i'm confused
 
@mathcat What about?
 
I was confused
 
@mathcat okay then we're all good
 
4:17 PM
@GingerIndustries Lemme know if the @LIST thing is good
 
CMC: convert decimal to unary in Vyxal
 
@GingerIndustries Is data["e"]["user_name"] the user name or the unique user id?
 
I think only @mathcat can answer
 
why?
 
because in Vyxal
 
4:19 PM
cough
 
@mathcat uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk man lemme check
 
@Fmbalbuena user, emanresu A, pxeger, hyper-neutrino
 
@mathcat I assume user_name is username and user_id is user id
 
@mathcat what?
 
@mathcat ?
 
4:20 PM
ok
@user, @emanresuA, @px_eger can you do this
 
@user wordCache.append((word, part, definition, data["e"]["user_name"], id_)) do you mean _id?
 
In vyxal? (decimal to unary)
 
@mathcat okay, so in order that's the word, part, definition, sending username, and what is either the sending id or message id
 
@mathcat idk, ask Ginger Industries, it's not my code
 
@mathcat okay that last one is the message id
 
4:22 PM
I thin kit's the message id
Yeah
 
@GingerIndustries looking at the code, I think id_ is the message-id of the bot's message
 
langRoom.sendMessage returns the SE chat's response, which appears to be the message id because the user id wouldn't make sense there
 
@mathcat it is
@mathcat wait no it's the ID
 
but the user_name isn't unique, right?
@GingerIndustries sure?
 
@mathcat no, but the way Past Ginger used it implies it's the ID
 
4:24 PM
okay
 
cmon Past Ginger don't let me down
 
has anyone here made a javascript webserver using the http module
and if so, is it 100x worse than flask or am I just doing it wrong
 
Of course it's worse, it's JS /s
 
@hyper-neutrino use express
 
oh yeah i should probably learn how to use that at some point anyway
 
4:36 PM
CMC: Given a 5-element list L and a number N, replicate the middle element of L so there are N copies of it. E.g.: L=[3,1,4,1,5];N=3[3,1,4,4,4,1,5] and L=[2,7,1,8,1];N=0[2,7,8,1]
 
@GingerIndustries Your bot stores the username instead of the user id in wordCache. Not a huge issue, but it could be annoying if multiple users have the same name and the queue tells you you made a request when someone else with the same username did. Could you also store the user id?
 
@user It should store the ID.
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

FmbalbuenaConvert decimal to unary in fewest regex codes code-challengeregular-expression Your task is to Convert decimal to undary in fewest regex codes Every regex code is substitution mode. A example ^2, |11 ^3, |111 ^4, |1111 ... \|, <empty> This scores infinity, But don't try this. Rules Your score ...

 
^ Any feedback?
 
on an unrelated note, has anyone figured out my image stego challenge yet?
 
4:48 PM
#Don'tPingToAdám
 
Try it online! ಠ_ಠ really Jelly? I hate ¦
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing What is ¦?
 
<link><index>¦ modifies the value at <index> of it's argument by <link>, but it's not very good
 
Any feedback?
 
does ¦ also call the link on the whole list and then conditionally replace values?
 
4:52 PM
Yeah, I think so
 
@GingerIndustries Well it doesn't but I've modified it to now
 
@user nice
@user Merged
 
@GingerIndustries what is that?
 
@Adám Jelly, 8 bytes: ṙ2x"Fṙ-2
Jelly, 7 bytes: ṙ2x"ṙ3F
 
@Fmbalbuena That's their cat at 3am.
 
4:58 PM
really?
 
Hey, @WheatWizard, it's a blurry picture of a cat, time for a new pfp? :P
 
@Fmbalbuena The label says so.
I have no reason to doubt it.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing hmmmmm idea
 
5:01 PM
I have no words
 
wow
 
@GingerIndustries I wish you had no pictures either
 
@WheatWizard I just had a reason to examine your profile picture: a blurry picture of a cellist? Where's it from?
 
@GingerIndustries i don't like, no stars
 
@user I cannot be stopped
 
5:02 PM
@pxeger It's Norsola Johnson playing cello with Godspeed You! Black Emperor in Iceland on 2002-03-13.
 
interesting lol
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing That's nice, but I can do 6 in APL — and no, I did not (consciously) design the challenge for this. It came to me in a dream last night.
 
@Adám Does your APL solution use @?
 
The entire show has been recorded and is available on archive.or
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Yes.
 
5:04 PM
Archive is wrong about where the show was. It was scheduled for the opera house but it got moved.
 
@Adám There's the issue - Jelly's version of @ is ¦ which is super buggy :/
 
@Adám "If Adám will not come to the 6-byte solution, then the 6-byte solution will come to Adám"
4
- Turkish Proverb, apparently
 
@Adám adám is code golf ramanujan confirmed
 
I always assumed it was from the Qu'uran
 
I literally dreamt that one of you here asked me how to do this in APL.
 
5:05 PM
@GingerIndustries I added remove
 
@Adám I did ;)
that wasn't a dream!
"gaslighting" isn't a word, stop making up words
 
@pxeger Good practice, how goes your girlbossing and gatekeeping? :P
 
lol
 
@Adám If Jelly's ¦ worked, then this would work for 5 bytes
 
5:11 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing post a issue
 
x3¦F
I think that would also work if it weren't for the bug
 
....yeah, it should
 
Gah, \@3 and {⍺\⍵}@3 don't work
 
@Fmbalbuena Nah, I'll probably just change its behaviour in my fork
 
@GingerIndustries ah NO
I accidentally merged
 
5:14 PM
I'll revert :/
 
TIL that the FDA classifies honey as raw meat
 
@GingerIndustries Now, should I make another pr?
 
@mathcat yes
 
5:17 PM
sorry
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing TIL that the FDA doesn't classify honey as raw meat
 
I went on this website, and there's an ad on the side that I think is trying to kill me:
 
oh wait no
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing How To Fix Your Computer
 
5:20 PM
"Put metal thing into power socket, you'll never pay your power bill again!"
 
Probably the sort of content that's deliberately absurdly wrong as to attract attention.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing that won't even work if you do it with insulated pliers lol
@WheatWizard well it worked lol
 
Yeah, it does.
 
BuzzFeed be like
 
Totally not a shill for Big Power y'all
 
5:22 PM
who's Little Power then?
 
You can trust me, which is why you should invest in "caird energy", my new, totally legit power company
 
can I convince my local city council to invest in it and then lose millions of pounds?
 
@pxeger a rapper
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Is caird energy a new form of energy altogether? Do you generate power through Jelly? :P
 
@user they use giant slime-block flying machines
 
5:40 PM
brb
 
@user Oh yeah, everyone thinks Jelly's * power builtin means exponentiation, but it really generates electricity, and exponentiates numbers as a side effect
4
 
 
1 hour later…
6:57 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing Reminds me of a time someone in my science class was sitting at a lab table, which had a (GFCI) outlet in the side of it (to plug in hot plates and stuff). He had his computer charger plugged in, but not all the way. Well, a piece of mechanical pencil lead rolled off the table, and managed to land across the pins. There were lots of sparks, and the charger had two little notches burned into the top of its blades.
And, due to the magic of having zero care in the world about safety, the design of US plugs would let you do that same thing with your finger instead of pencil lead
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani This is why my school's science labs had plugs on the tops of desks instead of at the floor level :P
 
You live in britain though, y'all's plugs are actually well designed and would prevent this sort of thing :p
 
I think we use UK plugs so I'm probably safe
accidentally unplugs light
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Speaking from childhood experience, yep, it's difficult to electrocute yourself with our plugs even if you try
 
7:20 PM
15 hours ago, by emanresu A
@NewPosts Dupe of a sandbox post
You posted it here first, it's fine.
We're a (mostly) independent site.
 
Am I missing something? Consider the number of 4-letter words of a 3-letter alphabet which do not contain the pattern XX (so 1221 fails, 1212 succeeds). How many are there? I get 24 (1212 1213 1231 1232 1312 1313 1321 1323 2121 2123 2131 2132 2312 2313 2321 2323 3121 3123 3131 3132 3212 3213 3231 3232), but OEIS reports 18
 
Yours seem to be right
 
i think 1212 is supposed to fail
 
I just realised ^
 
7:32 PM
oh right
 
Ah, as 12 is repeated
 
fun fact, brachylog can test squarefulness in 3 bytes
 
@emanresuA I thought Australia had its own plugs...does NZ use different ones than Australia?
 
@UnrelatedString I thought Jelly could do it in 3 bytes, but nope :/
 
what was the attempt
 
7:40 PM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Not sure
 
@emanresuA Do y'all's have blade-shaped pins in a sort of Y shape, or square-ish rectangular pins in a T shape?
 
Which I pronounce in my head as "nya"
 
same
that should work for the single-character version you were thinking of at least
(with digits instead of characters you could even just do IP)
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani I think the T shape you're thinking of is the British ones. NZ is the same as Australia and it's vaguely Y shaped I guess?
NZ does not use UK plugs
 
7:43 PM
I don't remember if Australian plugs have more safety features than US ones or not
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani They're not quite as bad but still pretty bad IMO
They're polarised, and more often earthed
 
Huh, looks like some plugs have the plastic to keep you from touching the live prongs, and others don't
 
Wait, what makes the British ones more safe?
 
7:45 PM
Thanks
The images just looked pretty normal
 
1. Plastic on the live and neutral pins to keep you from touching them
2. Mandatory ground pin, ensuring polarization
3. Mandatory ground pin, meaning plugs can have shutters that close, keeping you from sticking a screwdriver in
(The ground pin is just plastic whenever no grounding is required)
 
The sockets for live and neutral have shutters over them so you can't stick a fork in or whatever. The shutters open when the earth pin goes in, and since the earth pin is longer than all the others, it always connects first
 
Oh cool
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani IME this is very rare even on things that don't need earthing
The only downside is they hurt like hell if you step on them prongs-up
 
@pxeger I disagree with him, though. They are OTT — clunky.
 
7:47 PM
US plugs are like some of the only ones left that don't have plastic to keep you from killing yourself if you touch the prongs while unplugging them
 
@pxeger I think this is because of the longer earth pin
 
@pxeger My youngest son has an image of a British plug on his forehead…
3
 
@Adám the safety features are the best, but I think it could probably be the same while still being a bit smaller
 
I think some Indian sockets have the shutter thing, never seen anything with plastic on the pins though
 
There are some US plugs, typically on extensions cords, that are meant to be flush to the wall, where you literally have no way to grip them. If you try to wrap your fingers around it, you'll touch the live, exposed hot pin.
 
7:48 PM
wtf?
 
wait what
 
picture?
 
This one's above average
 
oh those
yeah those suck lmao
 
I have one where there is like...a millimeter of plastic before you hit the metal pin
 
7:49 PM
oof
The angle's weird too
 
And it isn't curved inward like the one picture, you can't grip it at all
 
@taRadvylfsriksushilani that wire looks flimsy as hell too
 
extremely
 
is it not even double-insulated?
 
Those are pretty common here, though less common for extension cords or grounded things
I have one on an old lamp that is clear. And fraying. So you can't tell where it's covered and where it's exposed copper.
But my parents refuse to throw it away because they're too lazy to go lamp shopping.
(It's from like the 1970s)
 
7:53 PM
@taRadvylfsriksushilani Just get a metal thing, stick it between the plug and wall and pry it out :P
 
You say that as if I hadn't had to flip the breaker off and use a screwdriver :p
(Turn the breaker off I mean, not make a rude gesture at it)
 
user image
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You see, the plugs in the US aren't designed poorly; it's the opposite
 
And I just love how the 240 volt plugs in the US keep the extraordinarily dangerous design of the 120 volt ones, but with the clunky form factor of the british plugs.
Well, the dryer/range/higher amperage 240 volt plugs. There are weird ones that are identical to 120 volt ones, but with one pin turned sideways.
(Or two, sometimes)
Sad boi
 
 
Looks more like surprised boi
 
7:59 PM
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