The Nineteenth Byte - 2021-11-26

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12:00 AM

and insert mode?

@user i pressed Esc and won't work

12:17 AM

@lyxal hey

Github copilot do errors

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Actually can be golfed to return x

12:45 AM

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A: "Hello, World!"

Nevermind, 21 bytes print,Hello*44 World! I selected random esolang.

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A: "Hello, World!"

Letters++, 22 bytes HwEwLwLwO, WwOwRwLwD!p I selected random esolang.

OldSandboxPosts

1:00 AM

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Plan my factory, Implement Unix Timestamp to Daytime

1:33 AM

@OldSandboxPosts create my factory with chaos

1:48 AM

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Q: Quantum boolean

Background Have you ever dream of quantum state? If that's true for you, you are probably weird... Anyway, I came up with an idea: what if we make a quantum in code? Task Create a data type, function, or class, anything that can be put in a condition. What should it do: (def your thing here, I'll...

code-golf boolean

2:41 AM

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Q: Even sum subarrays

Given an array of integers, count the number of contiguous subarrays with an even sum. You may assume that the array is non-empty, and contains only non-negative integers. This is code-golf, so the shortest code in bytes wins. Test Cases Input -> Output [7] -> 0 [8] -> 1 [3, 5] -> 1 [6, 2] -> 3 [...

code-golf array integer subsequence

3:02 AM

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TIO partially loaded

3:13 AM

@emanresuA how tf did you unload a loaded website?

My wifi is a sussy baka

And my computer

Because the screenshot on the bottom right indicates it was fully loaded when you took the first screenshot

I reloaded multiple times to rty and get the screenshot to show y'all

@NewPosts this looks interesting but very hard

Unrelated String

3:31 AM

i think it was still being actively critiqued in the sandbox the last time i looked like 3 hours ago

is this not trivial in python

anyway might need some more clarifying? i'll hold off on answering but i won't hammer

@hyper-neutrino wait how?

__bool__

wait

ignore me i did not read this correctly

ok i take back it being trivial

is this even possible lmao

3:46 AM

@hyper-neutrino Not a hammer now :P

WW (GG?) ran into the exact same misunderstanding as me :p

> trivial

> is this even possible

Perhaps one could use meta programming trickery tho

@hyper-neutrino It’d be nice to have aliases so that your original name and new name both point to you and ping you

@user shhhhhhhhhhh my eyes or brain or both don't work properly ok

I believe codidwct uses a number for pings

@use can't you just use short usernames?

3:55 AM

???

That doesn’t help

Redwolf Programs

Dang someone edited while I was drafting an edit >:|

@user isn't it like you can use just 3 chars to ping?

Like @WheatWizard no longer pings 🌾 👻

a userscript could help i suppose

if only there were someone here who was good at making userscripts

if only there were someone here who's made TNB userscripts in the past

If it were based on id number, then it’d be both unambiguous qnd independent of current name

RREEEEEEEEDDDDDWWWWWWOOOIILLLLLFFFFF!!!!!

3:58 AM

There's no I in REDWOLF

I'd hope not

There is now okay

Redwolf Programs

Dang, and I got denied a review because the editing took too long

Edit and reopen should send the reopen vote and give you the review, then take you to the edit page

I don't even know if my edit saved

it did

@RedwolfPrograms sorry, that would be my bad

Redwolf Programs

Nah I'm just being greedy for VTRO reviews lol

4:03 AM

REDWOILF, I CALL UPON THEE TO MAKE US A USERSCRIPT! WHAT SAY YOU?!

Redwolf Programs

Not sure how well this would work

See, there's two possible approaches: the person making the ping has the userscript, and it gets auto-replaced with the correct name (so it'd show up as "@RedwolfPrograms", when you type "@Redwoilf"), or the person being pinged has it (and it will ping you when it detects any of your aliases)

The second is probably better

But it would limit the usefulness

Since if, e.g., WW didn't have the script, we couldn't use any aliases

Yeah

Sadge, time to get codidwct to make q chat thing

@RedwolfPrograms Thanks for the review :P

4:24 AM

I love how people on Reddit try to use hashtags but it’s markdown so it just gets big :p

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does it bug anyone else when the symbol itself is called a hashtag?

no

^

what else are you supposed to call it?

(genuinely)

4:32 AM

octothorpe

bro

@LeakyNun a hash? or pound if you're american

i haven't heard that (octothorpe) since the epic of gilgamesh

@JoKing those either

especially "pound", since to me it's the currency

nobody says those

> The symbol # is known variously in English-speaking regions as the number sign, hash, or pound sign.

> Since 2007, widespread usage of the symbol to introduce metadata tags on social media platforms has led to such tags being known as "hashtags", and from that, the symbol itself is sometimes called a hashtag

is it bad that I read #include <iostream> as "hashtag include iostream"?

4:34 AM

but then I guess they don't read the sign too

I do the same, except without the "tag".

the only time I've heard the sign read out is when they write "#-field" to mean "number field", and there they say "number field"

or "a^#" pronounced "a-sharp", but that's a different sign i guess

or when someone describes a "hash tag" lol

but in that case they say "hashtag"

or rather, I haven't heard anyone use the sign other than in hashtags

I guess an analogous question is, when is the last time you heard someone say "full-stop" or "comma" or "exclamation mark"?

... I do that a lot when talking to myself

4:38 AM

^

thankfully not when i'm typing my password though

I kinda just mentally say Ah! when I read exclamation marks and pause a bit when I see commas

I yell factorials if that counts

at least internally

I say "not"

@JoKing Hmm, so your password has commas or periods or exclamation marks in it

What do y’all read semicolons and colons as?

4:42 AM

i just say "END OF STATEMENT" for semicolons

@user I don't

Wired

I am back with the sight of +14 rep on a closed question

the worst part is that it means i can no longer get 1111rep :(

Try for 11111 then

hmmmm

4:44 AM

Bounty something

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@JoKing always

fucking hate it

bounty give 10*x rep away

but my first digit is not 1,but 5

Aug 4 at 4:22, by A username

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Aug 4 at 4:22, by A username

My life is complete

I need -4 +10*x rep

@UnrelatedString hashtag i hate hashtag

4:49 AM

btw quantum boolean(which was the closed question) view count is 42

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I have the power of quantum and 42 muhahahahaha

???

42 is a somewhat funny number

not as funny as 69 or 420

but still culturally relevant

it's the answer to life, the universe and everything

CMQ: Are there any questions that ask for the smallest number of string manipulations (any definition) to make a string palindromic

(no I'm totally not using copilot to generate challenge ideas for me because I'm not at all desperate to get more internet points)

Redwolf Programs

5:07 AM

That would be a cool challenge

Not gonna do your dupe checking homework for you though :p

Oh hey, if you take the 1s out of my rep it's a funny number

dang it it's a dupe

Redwolf Programs

5:57 AM

Ugh my new laptop replaced the right ctrl with a fingerprint scanner

I'm so used to using right ctrl...

6:19 AM

Nerd

Who tf uses right control

Unrelated String

honestly i can see that depending on the exact keyboard layout

like for my external keyboard right ctrl is way the fuck too far from ; to ever even consider using since it's in the very bottom right but my laptop's keyboard has it right under / because of compacted arrow keys so in that case it could actually be easier in some sense to use for most shortcuts involving it since those tend to involve left-side keys

Redwolf Programs

@lyxal If I'm doing something like ctrl+t, it feels weird to hit the left ctrl and t with the same hand, but it's often easier to use the right ctrl instead of moving both hands all the way to the left to reach ctrl and t

6:41 AM

right ctrl i can understand, but i get confused by keyboards with a right fn button

Redwolf Programs

Anyone else really like words that start with "tach-"?

Tachyon, tachometer, etc.

i love tachnology

I love tachos, tacos with nachos

7:30 AM

my cat is currently sleeping on my Echo dot. What should I say to Alexa?

"Alexa play never gonna give you up by Rick astley"

that's on me, i set the bar too low

I'm sorry have a bad habit of rickrolling cats when asked what to do with cats

May 3 at 23:47, by Lyxal

@okie rickrolls cat

May 13 at 7:57, by lyxal

rickrolls cat again

Aug 11 at 5:44, by exedraj

*rickrolls cat*

See?

I just can't help it

the last one is exedraj tho, not you (:P)

@RedwolfPrograms in principle yes, but only in the long term, and I don't know what those features would look like

7:59 AM

ok the next message of mine, i am gonna type with my eyes closed on android (bad idea)

thiabia q hqd iswa cu dont think anyone can reqd this

its hard to know where each letter is lol

On an android phone, definitely. On a latpop or similar, easy :P (That's what I'm doing rightnow, hopefully no typos)

> latpop

Also

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@PyGamer0 sounds like you just need to get good

Like me

These messages are all on Android

Admittedly I had autocorrect but eh

ಠ_ಠ someone upvoted this

8:17 AM

Wasn't me

What to do with boolean?

Is codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/237085/… dupe of codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/197480/…?

9:09 AM

Suggested edits are very common in CGCC Review queues?

@Fmbalbuena PLEASE stop trying to edit that. Actually read the explanation and you'll understand why.

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Ok so

9:37 AM

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Q: Quantum boolean

Background Have you ever dream of quantum state? If that's true for you, you are probably weird... Anyway, I came up with an idea: what if we make a quantum in code? Task Create a data type, function, or class, anything that can be put in a condition. What should it do: (def your thing here, I'll...

code-golf boolean

This is closed as unclear with no requests to clarify anything specific.

To me, less "unclear" and more impossible

You can do it in Curry.

It's asking to break the internal behaviour of your language

y=unsafePerformIO$getRandomSeed
x=(y>0)?(y<1)

The hard part is performing something randomly, executing both parts of an if is just normal curry behavior.

But that's besides the point, a question really shouldn't be closed as unclear without any comments as to why it's unclear.

pop

9:51 AM

ಠ_ಠ

@NewPosts wtf

lol

Yet no VTCs

Because it's spam

@emanresuA We finally learned.

10:06 AM

Oh, should I have... I wasn't sure what to VTC as and... it's not what I personally define as spam

@emanresuA Why not? The first thing in the post was a link to a commercial site related to the described product.

I looked right past that :P

Yeah it's somewhat disguised as scientific fact but the username and the link clearly are connected to something commercial

And the smoke detector did the job right

@emanresuA here's a good list of what constitutes spam

@Bubbler actually it didn't

It didn't come up in CHQ nor the mod office

And autoflagging is down right now too

Actually turns out I'm fricking blind

Smokey did mention it

It just didn't get autoflagged or have any feedback given.

And I wasn't sorting by site rooms ofc

Nvm me being an idiot

@lyxal Thx

10:23 AM

@emanresuA I also have this bookmarked too

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11:26 AM

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1:48 PM

Good intentions but less than great execution

2:09 PM

mornin' folks

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3:09 PM

@NewPosts oh boy

Redwolf Programs

3:32 PM

Morning!

@NewPosts IIRC sandboxing questions on their own on meta is allowed, right? (although that should probably be reserved for much more complicated challenges, or series of challenges like Bubbler's event thing)

→ 2 jars of cinnamon moved to The Nineteenth Bakery

Well, it doesn't seem like OP intended to do that

because they self-deleted after getting Adam's comment on their first post

and then proceeded to do literally the exact same thing

if they'd responded to Adam's comment saying they intended to sandbox it separately we wouldn't be here now :P

caird coinheringaahing

@RedwolfPrograms No, questions on meta that should be sandbox answers are off-topic

Or rather, closed as a dupe of the sandbox

3:53 PM

CMC: Given two positive integers a and b, determine whether a >= b/2 + 7 and b >= a/2 + 7

@LeakyNun IIRC this is the formula for "minimum non-creepy partner age"

H+7>¹S¬ but i think that could be better

4:06 PM

o.O

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my network rep is now 10k

Welcome to the chat flag gang

@hyper-neutrino did you forget to reverse a and b?

Aaroneous Miller

@RedwolfPrograms That seems like an unhealthy amount of cinnamon

@LeakyNun yes

@LeakyNun Whython, 33 bytes: f=lambda a,b:a>=b/2+7and f(b,a)?1

this ? operator is quite useful with recursion, because you can just recurse infinitely and then ignore when the stack overflows

4:18 PM

wtf lol

i love how this only works because there isn't TCO

That's absolutely genius despite being cursed

thank you

32 bytes: ato.pxeger.com/…

It'd be cool if you could add something to eliminate the f=lambda: boilerplate in Whython feature-request

that's too useful

I only want to add genuinely cursed features

I guess we need a fork of Whython called Trython then

4:22 PM

I was thinking my next thing would be a C-style comma operator

That is again useful

It'd also clash with tuple syntax, right?

@cairdcoinheringaahing actually, sod's law, I now can't do the 8th either :/

is it ok to do next week (1st) instead? Or does doing it not in the fortnightly schedule break the rules?

@user well, it would have to be something other than a comma

maybe two commas (,,), or just make semicolons valid in expressions

I can get behind (a ; b) being valid

Ruby allows it already, for example

hmm, maybe it's not cursed enough

Ooh, could you add optional curly braces if it isn't too hard to parse? If you use {a, b, c} or {a}, it's a set, if you use {a:b,c:d} or {a:b} it's a dict, if you use {a; b; c} it's a block

4:27 PM

ooh, making from __future__ import braces a reality?

now that's a great idea!

4:39 PM

Created a couple more feature requests :P

Aaroneous Miller

@pxeger somehow the readme for whython seems just a bit off

@AaroneousMiller forks are hard

I've often seen that with forks, is that a copyright thing or a laziness thing? :P

it's a "every time you update the fork you have to remember not to overwrite the README with upstream's" thing

Aaroneous Miller

lol

4:46 PM

Ah

~~So it's a laziness thing~~

Redwolf Programs

@AaroneousMiller Maybe we're making a lot of cookies

Aaroneous Miller

fair enough

not fair, i want cookie too

Aaroneous Miller

lol, I just misspelled Bubbler's name as Bubbly

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger BMG is scheduled for next Wednesday

We can hold off Zsh being LYAL until you're free if you'd like, just means that we'll choose other nominated languages

5:07 PM

smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-05-18

@cairdcoinheringaahing if it has to be a wednesday on that schedule it might need to wait till next year

sorry I feel like I'm being too picky with when it can happen

I guess you can do it without me if you want

or I suppose I could start a guerilla LYAL competitor and do it some other time :P

@user "In case you're wondering, Taco Bell is a metaphor for Taco Bell"

Taco Bell is often bashed in SMBC, might be something personal :P

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Redwolf Programs

6:15 PM

I love how google seems to have confused do i and DOI in people's searches

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> How DOI find a DOI?

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Google has unintentionally made a somewhat subpar pun

Oh I see that hn = weeb has been confirmed way back in the transcript (thanks to emanresu's starred quote)

@JoKing No, I'm the user (and you're JoKing)

6:56 PM

not like it really needs confirming, it's pretty obvious /s

7:12 PM

it is pretty obvious /srs

^ It's just that we have proper evidence now

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8:17 PM

I for one am glad that it is a matter of public record

For some reason we get a lot of users attempting to impersonate the mod team (almost always me)

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And almost never any of the others

About half of these

Aaroneous Miller

Just for the record, I'm not joking.

^

Well, there are some users who are half joking

Sep 6 at 1:07, by Browncat Programs

~~Maybe JoKing's just my dad, so I'm half joking~~

Sep 6 at 1:07, by Jo King

Son??

caird coinheringaahing

8:54 PM

@AaroneousMiller Hmm, I note that you don't say that you aren't HN, WW or Doorknob. Curious

Redwolf Programs

Well, I've finally found the motivation to work through my two week backlog of math and history assignments lol

caird coinheringaahing

Can you tell me where, so I can go get some too :P

^

caird coinheringaahing

Don't need much, I only have math, no history :P

I don't have history but I have 2 maths :(

caird coinheringaahing

9:09 PM

Oh, did they finally release the sequel to math?

Practically 3 maths :(

Wezl programs redwolf

yeah this is the reason maths shouldn't be singular

so that you can make it plural

@cairdcoinheringaahing Math 2: Electric Boogaloo! Now starring Isaac Newton and Vin Diesel

@Wezlprogramsredwolf mathss, ez

Wezl programs redwolf

@user *hisses in anger*

Redwolf Programs

Solution: We remove the "s" from "mathematics", but keep the one in "maths"

9:10 PM

Crap, I think I might have 4 maths next semester ("mathses" for the non-Americans)

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Apr 27 at 13:05, by user

Redwolf: Imagine if someone handed you a box full of all the things you lost throughout your life.
Lyxal: It would be nice to have my sense of purpose back...
caird: Oh wow, my childhood innocence! Thank you for finding this.
user: My will to live! I haven't seen this in years.
Wezl: I knew I lost that potential somewhere.
Razetime: Mental stability, my old friend!
Redwolf: Jesus, could you guys lighten up a little?

Haven't seen my motivation in months (well, motivation for homework, at least) :P

caird coinheringaahing

Pretty sure "mathses" is what Gollum calls it

Because Gollum isn't American

American Gollum would say mathss

caird coinheringaahing

Nightmare fuel: Gollum with a strong Texan accent

Now I'm imagining Gollum with a hat stroking his ring, muttering "Darling..." in a Southern drawl

caird coinheringaahing

"My precious, y'all"

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9:17 PM

uh

caird coinheringaahing

Does anyone in the lotr movies actually speak in an American accent?

I think there were a couple people with fake-sounding British accents

caird coinheringaahing

Tbf at this point, "obviously fake British accent" all but is an American accent

Although tbh movies have conditioned me to think that anyone who doesn't say "Oi mate, geh me a cuppa" isn't British

wdym? That is exactly what all British people say

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9:21 PM

at least once an hour

caird coinheringaahing

if we dont, the queen personally comes to our house and executes us

@pxeger Nah, then there's also the posh kind who wear monocles and eat biscuits with their cuppas

caird coinheringaahing

@cairdcoinheringaahing i believe you're allowed to fight her to the death to become the next monarch in these circumstances, but I've heard she fights dirty

The Hollywood Principle: All British people either have this Cockney (is that the word?) accent or a super-posh cut glass accent

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ah, so that's what those dogs of hers are for

They look so innocent...

caird coinheringaahing

Royal corgis are feared in the dog kingdom :P

Wezl programs redwolf

9:23 PM

(CAR-jiss)

caird coinheringaahing

What are you doing in your car?

...They turn into cars?

@cairdcoinheringaahing They're "s"'s, not that other letter

Wezl programs redwolf

9:42 PM

why is this in wikipedia? :P

CMC: Github repo with longest fork chain

(No creating it yourself :p)

@emanresuA VTC

@JoKing chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/59707546#59707546

Aaroneous Miller

10:31 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Well, I can't guarantee that I'm not them. I just know that I'm not joking.

Lol

@emanresuA who needs a repo when I have one right here

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----C----C----C----C----C----C----C----C----C----C

I present to you the largest fork chain you've ever seen

~~time to make a hilbert curve out of forks~~

10:33 PM

@lyxal uhhh

caird coinheringaahing

11:25 PM

@lyxal But what if you add another one?

@user I notice that nobody found their virginity in that box... no mine's not in there either

This is TNB

This is not a place people go to to lose it

11:45 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing it collapses on itself

What about if you shrink the forks first?

It's not based on size

It's based on relative fork density

You jam too many forks into a single area and it creates a black hole

Interesting, what if you make the forks out of something that's not very dense?

Still happens

@lyxal Uh, I'm not sure it works exactly like that :P

11:47 PM

@user that's what I said too

@user material is irrelevant - it's all about fork like objects

But how do you define fork-like?

@user if it looks like a fork, sounds like a fork and walks like a fork it's a fork

Looks like is quite subjective. Do tridents count as forks? What about sporks?

It's just duck typing for forks

@user does a trident sound and walk like a fork?

Yes

11:51 PM

Then it's a fork

What about sporks and spoons? What about sticks? I must know

Duck typing in computer programming is an application of the duck test—"If it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck"—to determine whether an object can be used for a particular purpose. With normal typing, suitability is determined by an object's type. In duck typing, an object's suitability is determined by the presence of certain methods and properties, rather than the type of the object itself. == Example == This is a simple example in Python 3 that demonstrates how any object may be used in any context, up until it is used in a way that it does not support. Output...

Apply the criteria yourself

What if someone takes a robot, attaches a screen displaying a fork, makes its speakers produce fork noises, and makes its legs fork-like?

@lyxal i lzy

@user Then it's a fork

@lyxal How about a entity that can transform to anything in the universe, including a fork.

11:53 PM

@AlanBagel depends on its instantaneous forkness

If at any time t it displays the three fork traits, it's a fork at time = t

caird coinheringaahing

@lyxal But there's no rule about making that area big enough to include the extra fork

@lyxal What about a fork in the road?

@cairdcoinheringaahing that's what I said too

@cairdcoinheringaahing does it look, sound and walk like a fork?

@lyxal How many is too many?

caird coinheringaahing

It doesn't walk

Neither do forks

caird coinheringaahing

11:55 PM

It gets walked

@cairdcoinheringaahing then it's not a fork

@user you've never spent enough time observing them

@lyxal wdym, it walks exactly like a fork--not at all

@lyxal ~~Get a life~~

CMQ: what is koth or King of the Hill?

@user it's a special constant called kciR's constant

@user this is just what I learned from my forks physics class

That's how I know about the fork density limit

A practical experiment gone horribly wrong

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