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4:00 AM
kou-deka-de-mee
 
ರಹಸ್ಯ ಸಂದೇಶ <- Decipher this :p
 
It says "frperg zrffntr" (rot13)
 
it's just (^, spoiler removed) in kannada
there isn't any fancy crypto stuff :P
 
I put it in rot13 so it wouldn't spoil it :p
Not necessary though since I just used google translate
 
oh oops i thought you rot13d the input
though that wouldn't make sense, i didn't bother to unrot13 (by which i mean rot13) your message either :p
but yeah a) i know ಠ is from kannada and b) it's at least the second time if not more than PyGamer0 has mentioned this when someone uses the ಠ_ಠ face :P
 
4:10 AM
Anyone else think the word "Dravidian" sounds super cool?
 
druh-vi-dee-an?
 
drae-vi-dee-an
 
Not really the pronounciation itself just...the word? Idk if that makes sense lol
 
> not the pronunciation
> sounds cool
:thonk:
it is pretty cool tho :p
what color is it?
 
Red, white, and black color scheme
Very medieval looking
 
4:12 AM
Agreed
 
interesting
 
What does dravidian mean
 
It's a language family
Dravidian is a family of languages spoken by 220 million people, mainly in southern India and northern Sri Lanka, with pockets elsewhere in South Asia. Since the colonial era, there have been small but significant immigrant communities outside South Asia in Mauritius, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines, Britain, Australia, France, Canada, Germany and the United States. The Dravidian languages are first attested in the 2nd century BCE as Tamil-Brahmi script inscribed on the cave walls in the Madurai and Tirunelveli districts of Tamil Nadu. The Dravidian languages with the most...
 
> A large family of languages spoken especially in southern India and northern Sri Lanka that includes Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam, and Kannada.
 
Oh I see I forgot to translate it to bengali
It sounds like Dravirio
 
4:13 AM
what about Sanskrit and hindi (the northern part of India)
pretty sure Sanskrit is similar to Persian
 
I think those are indo-european, not sure
Hindi is indo-aryan (a subset of indo-european)
 
Jelly is Dennisian.
 
I think you all are very interested in linguistics
I only study it for exams
 
wait you have linguistics as a mandatory school subject
nice
 
Not linguistics really, Bengali grammar
Linguistics are few important chapters in the book
 
Someone who knows Jelly, find a Jelly solution to that and search for it
It's basically just a subset of set difference though
 
In many languages it's just - or equivalent
 
Interestingly I don't see a set difference question
 
In python you can just do xor on two sets
To do that
Very cool
 
@RedwolfPrograms I'll leave it for a bit tho
 
4:28 AM
Doesn't seem particularly interesting to me to be honest :/
 
Ok
What about this?
 
Lol you are creative
So many challenge idea
 
Old ones.
very old.
 
@Ausername Wouldn't 1 be a valid solution in most golfing languages?
 
@RedwolfPrograms No, because it has to be able to encode 1, 11, 111, 1111, etc
Oh wait...
I'll make it so you need at least two distinct characters.
 
4:32 AM
Ah, I misread the task as print the program's representation in the chosen Len encoding.
 
Still, if there's a language in which 1 is a cat, that's an easy solution.
And what about an empty program?
﷽𒐫
I'm going to go Vyxal spam. Back in a bit, and I apologise in advance for thte homepage.
 
@Ausername this is the equivalent of "generate n random numbers between 1-10" and will probably be closed as dupe
@Ausername this is kinda interesting and self-referential, I dig the idea
@RedwolfPrograms codecademy used to be free :(
I learned my basics of js, php, ruby there
 
@Razetime Ok thanks
@lyxal Can you fix the tokeniser, k\ is broken.
 
4:48 AM
@Razetime I didn't know it costs money now
I used it a few years back, they'd started adding premium stuff but most of it was free
I left a third of the way through the JS one lol
I had only used TI basic before that, so...I wrote some very bad code at first :p
 
bad as in inneficient, or just proken?
 
Think of someone who spent a year using GOTO as their only control flow (despite having other options), no functions, and 27 single letter variables (all of which were global and shared with other programs). Do you think they'd write good code? :p
4
 
Lol
 
i'm not sure which scares me more, ti-basic or the people who use it
 
5:07 AM
@RedwolfPrograms i think their model focuses on library oriented courses and specializations
the basic courses are(mostly) untouched and free
 
5:43 AM
who uses GUI Git Clients??
 
6:03 AM
@PyGamer0 Me (if you count Git integration in VS Code and other Git-related plugins)
 
@Bubbler no i wouldnt count you then; i am talking about external clients
 
6:40 AM
what would be good start and end chars for comments?
 
@UnrelatedString Hey, I wrote a racecar game in TI-Basic, and a program to help me ace my chemistry test.
 
@PyGamer0 Maybe some of these
 
6:55 AM
@PyGamer0 I do, used gitkraken since its beta
also use whatever comes with spacemacs i guess
@Adám Ti-APL when? :P
 
@PyGamer0 # to newline.
 
@Ausername i already implemented that just a minute ago
here is a simple program
ī(     # Take input (int) push on stack and start while loop
  .    # Duplicate the top of the stack
  ³    # Cube the top of the stack
  ±    # Negate the top of the stack
  ½    # Half the top of the stack
  ṭ    # Pop and print
  -1   # Subtract one
)      # End loop
 
Shouldn't it be 1- if it's stack based?
 
@Ausername mine works like that
 
Ok, but it's going to be a parsing nightmare.
 
7:09 AM
@Ausername i dont know how to parse; i am using a loop over all chars
 
That's not a good way to make a language
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing i dont know any other method
 
You should at the very least have some form of parsing so that you can tell where your loops begin and end
 
I'd suggest creating a function that takes a string and breaks it up into the "tokens" (aka numbers, strings, commands, loops), where loops are nested lists. 123+"ab"i(:;-) -> ["123", "+", '"ab"', "i", [":", ";", "-"]]
 
7:13 AM
@Razetime Looks pretty good. Can I have a reference implementation to play with?
 
I am not feeling patient enough to write one rn
 
Oh well. I'll have to wait.
 
even if i did it'd probably be in charcoal which probably wouldn't help for most languages
 
@Razetime Oh, how I dreamt of that back then. I created a mapping between APL glyphs and the limited keyboard, and designed a legible pixel font for the display. I just didn't have anyone that could implement the interpreter… Actually, original Dyalog APL might be able to run on those, as Dyalog is a portmanteau for Dya[dic-Zi]log, and TI calculators used the Z80 processor.
 
7:16 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing thanks for the tip
 
hm so a Z80 assembly interpreter should theoretically work on a TI
 
Theoretically, but I/O is probably very unique.
 
I spent way too much time on this
And I hate challenges that [look way simpler than they are. ](codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/55249/…)
 
7:34 AM
@Ausername Then your challenge-solving-fu is still weak :P
 
fu?
 
@lyxal Is there a builtin for 'extend array to certain length', for example [1,2,3] , 5 => [1,2,3,1,2]?
 
I'd imagine not
 
@Ausername in APL since the '60s
 
7:42 AM
@Adám I mean in Vyxal
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing for the blog, Totally Cubular as my question recommendation - 25 score but no answers
 
@Ausername I know.
 
APL do be cool
 
it cool
 
@Adám You just posted an answer without SBCS
 
7:44 AM
@Bubbler Feel free to fix. While writing it, an issue logged to me got raised to "Immediate" priority, which means "drop everything".
 
Oh.
 
what's SBCS @Bubbler
 
SBCS, or Single Byte Character Set, is used to refer to character encodings that use exactly one byte for each graphic character. An SBCS can accommodate a maximum of 256 symbols, and is useful for scripts that do not have many symbols or accented letters such as the Latin, Greek and Cyrillic scripts used mainly for European languages. Examples of SBCS encodings include ISO/IEC 646, the various ISO 8859 encodings, and the various Microsoft/IBM code pages.The term SBCS is commonly contrasted against the terms DBCS (double-byte character set) and TBCS (triple-byte character set), as well as MBCS...
 
oh ok
two byte systems are better in my opinion though
256x the characters
 
Hello everyone
@StackMeter no, if a golfing language has more than 256 bytes in the SBCS you need to count 2 or more bytes per each character
 
8:05 AM
@Wasif or count in fractions
 
@Wasif oh ok
currently looking at good vs evil koth
 
Do you know any nice esolang which has very less answers?
(except Vyxal)
 
Keg
 
yesterday, by lyxal
Whatever you do, just don't learn Keg.
4 stars
But I can't understand what problem it has
 
Keg is a B-programming language in the same way B-movies are B-movies
As Lyxal understood the art of golfing better, and golflangs better
 
8:17 AM
what's a B-movie
 
they kept adding more odd fixtures to try and improve keg, which wasn't really built in a way that could be improved properly
 
Bee Movie?
 
A B movie or B film is a low-budget commercial motion picture that is not an arthouse film. In its original usage, during the Golden Age of Hollywood, the term more precisely identified films intended for distribution as the less-publicized bottom half of a double feature (akin to B-sides for recorded music). However, the U.S. production of movies intended as second features largely ceased by the end of the 1950s. With the emergence of commercial television at that time, film studio B- movie production departments changed into television film production divisions making much of the same type of...
 
so it ended up being a combination of a lot of good things and bad things which was slowed down and messed up by old spaghetti code
 
8:19 AM
Any of those (except Add++ or Whispers) are relatively unused, and using them earns you a bounty :P
 
@Wasif there's an Add++ bounty if you are patient enough to write a large program in it
 
There's also this which is much easier to tackle :P
 
I see
I might learn add++
BTW here is the unfinished code of Snake language which I am making: github.com/Detective-Wasif/Snake/blob/main/snake.py
I am regularly updating the code
 
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EliteDaMythBlum Integers According to Wikipedia In mathematics, a natural number n is a Blum integer if n = p×q is a semiprime for which p and q are distinct prime numbers congruent to 3 mod 4. That is, p and q must be of the form 4t + 3, for some integer t. Integers of this form are referred to as Blum pr...

 
8:35 AM
@Wasif raise Exception("Frick") I died
 
@StackMeter :P that's an Easter egg
 
this is why we read the code
 
I will not add too much builtins, it will destroy the fun of coding in 2D languages
But there are still many things to add and it is unfinished
 
how does one loop in a 2d lang
 
@StackMeter with <>^V
Commands they move IP in various direction s
You need to use them cleverly to make loops
 
8:40 AM
ok
yes I got a task done
LET'S GOOOOO
 
What task
 
late answers
 
You made your first review?
Nice
Haven't got the chance yet
 
@4D4850 is that the predecessor to your prisoner's ?Theorem KotH?
 
8:57 AM
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AJFaradayPlay Thud Thud is a game described by Terry Pratchett in his novel, Thud!. The game simulates a battle between the Dwarves (in blue) and the Trolls (in green) on an octagonal board with the Thudstone (an impassable space) in the centre of the board. I have created an environment to play the game...

 
ok i have added a basic parser to my esolang
 
@Wasif Vyxal has ~300 answers
 
@Ausername still it is rather low compared to other langs
But I hope that the number will grow soon
@PyGamer0 nice
 
9:26 AM
Gosh, we have 26 users in here at once! I feel like that's some sort of record.
 
And 4 diamonds, none of whom are mods on our site :P
 
9:47 AM
@Wasif It's sad really, there is never anything to review
 
hyper's sleeping, WW and JoKing aren't really that active in chat, and Doorknob is completely inactive.
 
And you're gonna sleep sooon, presumably.
*soon
 
Who is WW
 
Wheat Wizard
 
@Ausername we had 28 little before that
I see
 
9:52 AM
Now only 24
 
Yet it always feels like I'm always on when the chat is least active :(
 
@RecursiveCo. nope
But I also feel so sometimes
 
When is it least active?
The graph isn't saying much
 
Now
 
@Ausername A record over what time period?
 
9:53 AM
And it will continue less activity few more hours
 
When is it most active?
 
1:00-10:00 AM UTC
I think
 
It's 9:54 UTC now is it not?
And for most of the period mentioned I'm asleep
 
It's generally least active around 12:00 UTC and most active at 15:00 UTC
 
I said AM
 
9:54 AM
so I can never be a RO due to technicalities.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Idk
 
And yes it's 9:54 UTC (AM)
 
15:00 UTC, I'm quite active, though
 
I cannot express it in UTC
But from GMT +6 it is most active in Midnight and after that
 
9:55 AM
@Ausername Cause it might be a record for the past few days, but a couple of weeks ago we hit 30 and 5 years ago we'd normally have 40+ users here
 
@Adám It's in my timezone, right?
 
@RecursiveCo. No, it's UTC
I think basically everything on SE is in UTC time
 
So I am active when it's most active. Didn't know that. Maybe it was just a slow day yesterday
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing NZ time is just UTC+12, so I just swap AM/PM.
 
We are still at 24....
 
10:02 AM
25
 
Nice
 
We don't need a running count of the people in the room
 
No, we don;t.
CMC: Use semicolons instead of apostrophes.
 
Bye for now I am going to lunch (It will be 24 again :P)
 
10:08 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing how can you tell which are diamonds?
 
@Neil I was on mobile, which shows diamonds next to usernames in the user list (also, I know that Art, Catija, JNat and Peilonrayz all have diamonds and I don't recognize any other mods) :P
 
Hi~
 
@Ausername e=>e.replace(/'/g,';')
 
managed to shave off a few bytes
on my answers
 
Which one? numberplate?
 
10:23 AM
@Ausername QuadR, 3 bytes: ' ; Try it online!
 
sed - s/'/;
 
yeah
hope it stops divebombing
 
CMP: I'm posting the Welcome page as an ad, is it worth displaying it across the network to get activity?
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Sure, especially on CR.
Those people need to reconsider their priorities.
 
10:27 AM
@JNat I'm guessing that the question ads display a different image in the ad than in the normal image ads? The question body says "staff will generate a frame for the ad with this site's theme, for brand consistency". Could you elaborate a bit on that?
 
@Adám Yeah, what's the point of clean, readable, efficient code? Pah.
 
what's CR
 
@StackMeter Our arch nemesis:
 
oh
o h
what are they about
and why are they our nemesis
 
Reviewing code
They like good quality, readable code. We don't. Therefore, undying hatred :P
 
10:43 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing do they just do the opposite of what we do?
 
@PyGamer0 I'd recommend just browsing their highest voted questions and have a look
 
C, C++, Haskell, Assembly, Kotlin..... looks boring
 
hah
 
Let's get them to review some Jelly.
That'll teach them
 
10:45 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing Or Brainfuck ;)
 
Or even Redwolf's Javascript
 
@Ausername I've been trying to get a piece of Jelly code that would work for review :P
Oh god, something serious was made in BF? — Kayla Jul 19 '14 at 6:03
You should send those users our way, we'll demonstrate some of our crazy bf answers :P
 
Wow, that answer actually golfed it!
Explained but also simplified/golfed!
Perhaps we aren't so different after all...
 
Self answers have always been an interesting thing on CR for me
 
@Ausername Bare in mind reducing code != golfing in many languages :) I've turned many a 50 loc function into 3 lines, but never into 20 character abominations works of art
 
10:50 AM
True, but with Bf, they're basically the same thing.
 
There are a few APL posts on CR.
Hm, they have a review of a BF interpreter written in C. We should ask them to review our C compiler written in BF…
 
11:07 AM
@Adám You, have a C compiler written in BF?! That's pretty cool
 
@Adám show it to me now
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing oh no my computer must've crashed again
i keep chat open so i shouldn't drop out of this room normally
 
same
I literally am here 24/7/365
 
@StackMeter no you're not here 24/7/365
 
wdym
 
11:15 AM
You're StackMeter
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing yeah
jusp put some markers down
why was a community mod talking about bullets what went on here
between 10 last night and 3 this morning
 
@Peilonrayz This reminds me! I posted a followup to that question with my own code and apparently someone answered it in the meantime
The answer basically didn't manage to suggest any golfs but it's still neat
 
did you know you can put ranges into a list
in Python
 
@StackMeter ?
 
yes
I just realised this
since it just creates a nested list
 
11:31 AM
@JoKing Oh nice. Simon is probably our best esolang reviewer :)
 
... how many do you have?
 
IRIC rofl is pretty good at esolang review
 
Probably around a handful basically the mods; rolfl, Mat and Simon. And I think some of the 2nd crowd would help out
 
12:01 PM
@Peilonrayz No, I don't know C. But we (CGCC) have a GoL implementation in GoL…
 
@Adám conway's game of life?
 
Yes.
It made the news.
Random fact: If a user takes the name "100 reputation equals 5000 reputation²" and they award a 50 rep bounty, the note will say "This answer has been awarded bounties worth 50 reputation by 100 reputation equals 5000 reputation²".
 
12:18 PM
@Adám Wait, seriously? I thought we just had Tetris... Which I suppose is even more amazing.
Wait so we can simulate GoL in GoL in GoL in GoL in...
 
12:29 PM
@Ausername Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought we did. Should be trivial though.
 
Yeah, the post mentioned how the metapixels could simulate it themselves.
 
1:13 PM
@JoKing Eh, your comment seems to have disappeared... Do you want to post it again? (I can C&P here if you want)
 
@Adám nice
 
Looks like there is no rickroll in gol
Interesting challenge idea?
 
What's the actual challenge?
 
@StackMeter bullet points. like in a list.
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Rickroll in Gol with as few initial cells as possible
 
1:16 PM
But what do you mean by "rickroll"? A pixel image? The lyrics?
 
@hyper-neutrino ok
@cairdcoinheringaahing image
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing animated gif
 
That might be impossible
The cells that should be on between any two frames is 100% determinable, and not all mappings are possible
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing It should be doable if you zoom out far enough. You'd encode the video in a tiny area and play it back in huge pixels.
 
There's also the fact that you can't say that it has to "look similar/like the rick roll", you'd have to provide sample images for each frame
 
1:38 PM
ah, smokey didn't catch it rip
thanks
 
@Razetime It has 41 rep (account). Looks like I won't be able to downvote :(
 
> This post is hidden. It was flagged as spam or offensive content and deleted 3 mins ago by hyper-neutrino♦.
That's fun (cc @hyper-neutrino)
..why would you overwrite that instead of appending it like I told it to? ಠ_ಠ
 
I flagged it as spam and then later undeleted it to report it to smokey and re-deleted it
it's still locked as spam and the flags are still marked as helpful FWIW
 
@hyper-neutrino Yeah I noticed that :p I figured you'd spam-flagged after it got deleted, and being a mod it undeleted it and then re-nuked it ;P
 
uh, no, I flagged as spam, then undeleted, and then redeleted manually because I couldn't flag it again
unfortunately I can't flag something twice apparently
if I undo a spam flag I can R/A flag it I think
normal users can't re-redflag after retracting the first one, even with the other type. of course, i can't really retract a red flag either, but if i dispute it, i think it lets me cast the other type. but if it was marked helpful then i can't, so i just re-deleted it because i didn't want to dispute everyone else's flag
 
1:55 PM
@cairdcoinheringaahing Jokes on them, I watched that video and didn't understand a single word :P
 
lol you actually watched it?
nice :P
was it actually something about getting money
 
Well, I watched the first 5 seconds and its all in a different language :P
 
ah :P
 
@hyper-neutrino The title is ছাত্র ছাত্রীদের জন্য মোবাইল দিয়ে ইনকামের সেরা অ্যাপ | Make Money Online 2021 | Shaikot Tech Help which (roughly) translates to The best app of income with mobile for students | Make Money Online 2021 | Shaikot Tech Help (google translate, from Bangla)
 
2:00 PM
How nice of them, providing us with tech help
 
And Money Online 2021 :P
 
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Recursive Co.Implement a feature-rich calculator code-golf math We have a few many calculator challenges on this site, but none seem to require a complex one with many different features. This challenge is about emulating my old Casio calculator, except with no digit limit. Features are: basic (start with a...

 
2:13 PM
I've noticed the Sandbox is looking pretty quiet lately. No answers for
Ugh
no comments for a week now.
Has it got a lot less active lately?
 
That reminds me, I haven't done any Sandbox reviewing for a while, should probably take a look
 
I could recommend one that I'd like looked at :p
 
Feel free, though I tend to just browse by active. If it's on page 1, I'll be taking a look at it in a bit :P
 
Yeah, second one down atm. The game of Thud
It's nearly ready, tho I'm keen to minimise work on the project in a hurry after posting the challenge.
 
@AJFaraday When you say "in a line", do you mean horizontal + vertical lines, or are diagonal lines ok as well?
 
2:22 PM
Good point. Yes, it's in all 8 directions.
 
@AJFaraday Overall, it looks like a really fun challenge! I'm definitely going to mess around with the game version (I don't know JS well enough to compete in the KotH). I skimmed over the technical stuff, you might want to get someone who's familiar with JS to give it a second look over to double check its all clear. The description of the game itself though is clear enough :)
 
Fair enough, I'm mostly a rubyist, so I can totally relate to the JSphobia
If it helps, you can modify the existing clients. So if you wanted to have a crack at it, there's some strong starting points.
 
I'll take a look, but don't hold your breath for my answer :P
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing Thanks for taking a look! If you find any bugs with it as a game, feel free to log it on github github.com/AJFaraday/Thud/issues
 
2:54 PM
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Q: Print this text in Scala

userPrint the following text and nothing else: <html> <body> <p>HTML is kinda annoying</p> </body> </html> I'm happy I'm not a web developer. The catch? Your code must fit the template: print(<?>), where ? can be any group of characters. You can paste your completed code (with the print(<>...

 
it would be cool if i knew anything about scala
 

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