The Nineteenth Byte

1:00 PM

Lyxal: Dumbest scar stories, go!
user: I burned my tongue once drinking tea.
caird: I dropped a hair dryer on my leg once and it burned.
Wezl: I have a piece of graphite in my leg for accidentally stabbing myself with a pencil in the first grade.
Razetime: I was taking a cup of noodles out of the microwave and spilled it in my hand and I got a really bad burn.
Redwolf: I have emotional scars.

caird coinheringaahing

Probably wouldn't be to hard, you could set up a monitoring chat bot that just reads and stored new messages

user

@RedwolfPrograms You slander me, I slander you /s

Redwolf Programs

Is somebody spam-upvoting me?

I've gotten +60 in the last twenty minutes, all on old stuff

user

Probably a bot

caird coinheringaahing

Same

Lyxal

1:01 PM

Oof get ready for rep removal

user

It happened to me once - someone upvoted my top answers. I flagged them and presumably, the account was deleted

caird coinheringaahing

Don't worry about it, if it's genuine spam it'll get removed. If not, enjoy your new rep

Razetime

yep it's upvoting my questions

Lyxal

Lyxal: Caird has no survival skills, their need to win has replaced them.
User: That can't be true!
Lyxal: Watch this.
Lyxal: Hey Caird, race you to the bottom of the stairs!
Caird: *Throws themself out a window*

caird coinheringaahing

But I did win :P

4

Redwolf Programs

1:04 PM

You did a generalized speedrun

Razetime

@Wezl whats the bounty on this for?

user

Redwolf: Imagine if someone handed you a box full of all the things you lost throughout your life.
Lyxal: It would be nice to have my sense of purpose back...
caird: Oh wow, my childhood innocence! Thank you for finding this.
user: My will to live! I haven't seen this in years.
Wezl: I knew I lost that potential somewhere.
Razetime: Mental stability, my old friend!
Redwolf: Jesus, could you guys lighten up a little?

3

Okay, that's my last quote for today

Lyxal

My last one for tonight:

caird coinheringaahing

Lemme just ninja you :P

Lyxal

Razetime: We need more help. Maybe I should call my friends.
Redwolf: ... Your what?
Razetime: My friends.
User: Are they saying “friends”?
Lyxal: I think they're being sarcastic.
Caird: No, no, no, this is delirium, they've cracked from being awake all night. Hey, Razetime! All of your friends are in this room.

Wezl

1:07 PM

@Razetime this except I didn't realize they put a link :/

Lyxal

Fixed font formatting on mobile is hard okay!

Okay well goodnight y'all

Razetime

@Wezl so it's for a zsh answer?

Wezl

I found a SEDE query for self-answers and I'm bountying this because I like it, the question's asked by pxeger, and I have an answer there :)

user

You didn't upvote it, though

Razetime

random bounty..?

idk

pxeger

1:10 PM

@Wezl but you bountied to draw more attention to the question, not to reward an existing answer? Any reason?

Razetime

i don't get it

caird coinheringaahing

Random bounties are allowed, just discouraged

Wezl

discouraged :O

pxeger

Don't question it, it's 100 free rep :þ

caird coinheringaahing

You're free to do with your rep as you see fit, but it's generally encouraged to make it clear why you are putting up the bounty, including using an appropriate reason

Wezl

1:12 PM

I do like the question a bit more than the answer though

but I suppose it might make people answer the question with a hope of getting the bounty

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing That is an appropriate reason! :)

Redwolf Programs

1:24 PM

Scary hacker: I have all of your passwords
Me: Thanks! What's my email one again?

user

You can just tell me all of your passwords if you want to both keep them safe and not forget them.

caird coinheringaahing

The fact that Arnauld essentially wrote a monadic chain evaluator for "Jelly" in ~200 bytes is wild, especially as it looks to be arbitrarily extendible for more commands

rak1507

wish I got a chance to fgitw this codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/224515/…

:/

caird coinheringaahing

2:15 PM

Some sites have an "Upcoming Events" box on the sidebar, different to the "Featured on Meta" and the "Hot Meta Questions", that frees up spaces for those two. (examples: Movies & TV, Literature). This does also include events in progress (see Literature's one about Mem & Zin). Should we ask SE if we can move LotM to be events, rather than featured posts?

Redwolf Programs

Sounds like a good idea

Wezl

CM? What's your favorite tag?

Redwolf Programs

[king-of-the-hill]

No argument

user

@Wezl code-trolling (don't take it the wrong way, I don't want any more of those questions, I just enjoy the answers)

Adám

2:59 PM

CMC popularity-contest: Best single-line Unicode bicycle.

caird coinheringaahing

🚲

rak1507

beat me to it

Adám

Nah, that's cheating.

I was thinking something along the lines of ⵚ🜆Ⴃ

Redwolf Programs

Here's the best I can do with ASCII since I'm too lazy to look for good unicode chars: O-\O

caird coinheringaahing

FYI: the language-of-the-month tag wiki info now includes the raw Markdown template for LotM posts, so feel free to use that if/when you post a LotM thread

Wezl

3:02 PM

OO

in my hypothetical font made specifically for this challenge, one byte: B

Adám

@Wezl Isn't that one of the default loopholes?

Wezl

maybe for languages :)

Adám

@RedwolfPrograms o=7o

Redwolf Programs

pedal_bike in this font :p

user

How does one use that?

Redwolf Programs

3:07 PM

It uses ligatures

Like how some programming fonts turn -> into arrows

user

Oh, I see

Neil

@user huh, nobody got their virginity back? must mean you haven't lost it yet?

user

...

CMP: Is this a stupid question? (please also explain your rationale)

Adám

@user No, self-refential jokes are clever, not stupid.

rak1507

no, but it is a bad attempt at changing the subject

user

3:21 PM

@Adám Thank ∇ou

Adám

@user That's a clever in-joke!

user

@rak1507 Changing the subject? What subject? We're talking about whether or not my question's stupid, remember?

rak1507

@user that is clever

everyone who doesn't know APL is wondering why a triangle is so funny

Adám

aplcart.info?q=self-reference

rak1507

in a tradfn do you just use the name

Adám

3:26 PM

Yes.

caird coinheringaahing

4:45 PM

I've moved your messages @Wasif, that's a more relevant place for messages about UserScript :)

→ 7 messages moved to UserScript

Wasif

I forgot you were a room owner sorry :P

caird coinheringaahing

Does anyone have >10k rep on a different site (or >4k on a beta site) and is willing to help me test something? I'm trying to test a bug with tag wiki edits

Wasif

5:02 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing i AM

you can use me

caird coinheringaahing

Stack Overflow, right?

Wasif

yes

caird coinheringaahing

Ok, gimme a second to find a good tag

Ok, if you go to here, and click "Edit Tag Info". Type something into the second box. Does it show a preview of what you typed below the box?

(Don't actually bother to submit the tag wiki edit, it's just about the preview)

Wasif

where is that button?

caird coinheringaahing

Hmm, does it not show one?

Weird. Never mind then

Wasif

5:06 PM

let me give a screenshot

caird coinheringaahing

Maybe SO is different about tag wiki edits, it doesn't look like you can edit any of them

Wasif

then you can't use me i think :-(

caird coinheringaahing

Just did some digging, looks like the bug is with the gradscript, not with SE :/

Wasif

mistakes happen with everyone its okay :-)

hyper-neutrino

rip

Redwolf Programs

5:10 PM

@Wasif caird didn't make the gradscript

caird coinheringaahing

Anyone whose got the gradscript, head over to here and type whatever into the second box. Does it show a preview of what you typed?

6 mins ago, by caird coinheringaahing

(Don't actually bother to submit the tag wiki edit, it's just about the preview)

Redwolf Programs

Do you have a link to the gradscript? I'll download it and try.

caird coinheringaahing

- codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/7897/…

Razetime

@cairdcoinheringaahing no

no preview

Redwolf Programs

> wmd.en.js?v=20f5e9cccfe9:1 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'render' of undefined

caird coinheringaahing

5:13 PM

What's weirder is that it does show a preview if you're editing one, rather than creating one: try it

@RedwolfPrograms I should press f12 more often

Redwolf Programs

Weird

Wasif

I have the gradscript but no second box there?

Redwolf Programs

The Commonmark.Converter#makeHtml has a check for if Commonmark.markdownit exists, and it doesn't fail, but it doesn't exist

caird coinheringaahing

What's the difference between markdown and formatting? Looks like [markdown] is a subset of [formatting]. Request to merge/synonym?

@Wasif You can't suggest edits if you're suspended

Redwolf Programs

I don't know why the gradscript would be messing with Commonmark though

hyper-neutrino

5:18 PM

oh, flags on meta that are actually useful? wow, that's rare

usually it's just Community complaining about sandbox for the like 300th time

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino You're welcome :P

hyper-neutrino

I think markdown and formatting probably shouldn't be merged, but I'm not sure about that...

it seems like formatting includes general things about formatting (structuring) a post that don't include the detailed mechanisms of SE text rendering, and markdown is just purely about things to do with SE's markdown engine.

Redwolf Programs

I'd say they're fairly different. They'd probably be used together often, but formatting could refer to a lot of the non-markdown aspects of formatting, and markdown could be about markdown bugs and the like

hyper-neutrino

caird coinheringaahing

All questions currently tagged with [markdown] should either have a different tag (e.g. this should have [latex] instead), or are formatting bugs

This is probably the only [markdown] question that should have that tag and not the [formatting] tag

hyper-neutrino

5:25 PM

this has nothing to do with markdown, so I can probably remove the tag directly

i'm going to hold off on potential retagging for a bit to allow meta to fill back up with normal activity

caird coinheringaahing

Actually this should have [status-declined] and [latex] on it, instead of [status-completed] and [markdown]

hyper-neutrino

i don't think this is simple enough for me to just merge all markdown into formatting; some shouldn't have the tag at all, some deserve another tag, etc. i'll go through these one-by-one later since there aren't many

> Looks like the intrepid Stack Exchange community manager Shog9 graciously took care of this for us. See the unrendered MathJax below.

and then below that we see a rendered sqrt(2)

lol

caird coinheringaahing

Amazing :P

Wezl

@hyper-neutrino you ninja'd me wow

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino I'll hold off on retag flags for a bit as well :)

hyper-neutrino

5:30 PM

now the top 4 questions for me on meta are grayed out :P (since i have completed, declined, and norepro ignored lol)

okay, thanks :D :P

user

5:46 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing It shows me a preview, but I did some stuff to the gradscript, so it may be that

StackMeter

6:27 PM

yooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Wezl

hello @StackMeter what can I get for you

StackMeter

the a-maze-ing adventure is going into production @Wezl

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Number to set code-golfrecursionset-theorynumber (set meaning an unordered collection with no duplicates, though answers may use and output lists instead) Recently I was brainstorming what a language with only (arbitrarily nested) sets would be like. A number is represented with a set of that man...

Wezl

clock: 22:40
cat: What can I get for you?
me:  Sleeeeeeeee...zz
cat: A gallon of slobber? Here you go.
me:  ...eeeeeep...zz
cat: Oh, and a complimentary massage with my uncut nails

StackMeter

@Wezl my sides have left the chat

Wezl

6:34 PM

@NewSandboxedPosts Yay a non-complicated challenge by me! It had better not be a duplicate

user

ROs, do y'all feel moving these quotes to a separate room would be a good idea? They're funny, but they may be taking up some space

caird coinheringaahing

I think if there are any more, sure. As is, they're fine, as they aren't taking up too much space

user

@NewSandboxedPosts This would be trivial in Husk if only it weren't statically typed :(

Wezl

:) yes

it's actually this

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl Dupe

hyper-neutrino

6:37 PM

F

Wezl

@user is this E but on .NET ? :P

user

@Wezl Ooh, that looks like a nice language!

caird coinheringaahing

→ 10 messages moved to Trash

Wezl

6:54 PM

At least I can do the next best thing and post to codidact :)

user

Please do, I'll copy over my Husk solution there :P

Wezl

I did it before I posted in chat lol

hyper-neutrino

time to ninja copy user's husk solution /s

caird coinheringaahing

Dennis has a 3 byte Jelly answer to it, but it feels cheap to copy that across :P

user

I mean, you can do that, but it'd be better to copy the Jelly answer

@cairdcoinheringaahing Ninja'd :P

caird coinheringaahing

6:59 PM

I swear, MM should have a 5 rep requirement to ask there, every post by a 1 rep user is spam/off-topic :/

hyper-neutrino

how would you get 4 rep though

pxeger

accept two answers?

hyper-neutrino

oh

assoc bonus

caird coinheringaahing

edit

pxeger

two suggested edits?

caird coinheringaahing

7:01 PM

@pxeger How do you do that without a question? :P

hyper-neutrino

it's unlikely someone would have something legit to contribute on MM unless they're a somewhat regular user of another site and thus understand SE and why MM exists

pxeger

idk?

hyper-neutrino

but idk if the threshold for assoc bonus is too high to be reasonable

Redwolf Programs

Maybe posts should have to start on per-site metas and be voted onto MM

Then have a Meta MM for problems with that system :p

hyper-neutrino

bruh

caird coinheringaahing

7:02 PM

@RedwolfPrograms That would be a good way to promote bugs to the CMs :P

Redwolf Programs

Oh no...I was drafting a challenge involving prime factors and I happened to pick [2, 2, 3, 5, 7] as an example. Nobody tell Lyxal, got it?

StackMeter

@Lyxal there's a 420 meme ripe for picking

user

Why not? I don't see any funny numbers there

caird coinheringaahing

Product

Redwolf Programs

2 * 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 =

user

7:05 PM

Oh, I see

StackMeter

@@Lyxal where are you

caird coinheringaahing

Probably asleep

user

Hanging upside down, presumably

hyper-neutrino

confirmed, lyxal is a ~~bad~~ bat

caird coinheringaahing

It's 5am (ish) rn in Australia :P

user

7:06 PM

@hyper-neutrino The original was better even if the grammar was off :P

caird coinheringaahing

-2

Q: The transformations 2D

I would like to ask a question relating to the transformations in the 2D plane. What are the transformations 2D which preserve the X coordinates and change the Y coordinates which causes lines that slope up or down to transform into horizontal lines? Thanks a lot to you for your attention!

Someone explain the tags to me :P Wrong answers only :P

user

Darn it, I only have 99 rep on MM

caird coinheringaahing

Flag as inappropriate, then "off-topic"

user

Can't downvote whatever the heck that question's supposed to be

StackMeter

@user I have 101

Redwolf Programs

7:08 PM

Does OP not realize that making Y = 0 is how you would do that?

user

@StackMeter Looks like you didn't get downvoted :P

@RedwolfPrograms This is a person who posted on MM about a math problem. What do you think? :P

hyper-neutrino

imagine not having rep on meta

user

Imagine not posting a dumb question, getting downvoted, deleting the question, and then downvoting other people's dumb posts

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing i can schedule community events quite easily (had to ask on TL for where to find it, but the interface looks pretty straightforward)

caird coinheringaahing

The trick is trivial edits and posting [feature-requests] about fixing SE's stupid design choices :P

hyper-neutrino

7:11 PM

so if we decide to do that i can just go set it up within like a minute or two :P

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Oh, nice!

Can they go for a month?

hyper-neutrino

i believe so?

wait you have more rep than me on meta. xD

my trick is a) post smth during the monica incident saying what everyone sane person agrees with and getting like 17 + 27 upvotes from that

b) just post a ton of bug reports

caird coinheringaahing

Only a couple of hundred more :P

hyper-neutrino

c) forward discussions from site meta to MM because moderator <o/

oh also farm a free repcap off of someone renaming feeds to something about incoherence and crack

caird coinheringaahing

Eleven :P

hyper-neutrino

7:14 PM

wait this user (the one that just posted on MM) has posted stuff on Math.SE as early as...

may of 2020

bruh????

user

At the least the OP was kinda understanding: "Thank you very much for your share"

knosmos

Honestly they probably forgot which site they were on

StackMeter

@hyper-neutrino bro

caird coinheringaahing

IIRC I had around 800 rep on MM, then the Great Question Rep Recalculation happened, and I shot up to basically double

StackMeter

@hyper-neutrino why

caird coinheringaahing

7:15 PM

@StackMeter Because literally everyone hated SE when that happened, so it was easy to get rep by just criticising SE

hyper-neutrino

well, i felt like voicing my opinion, and it was an active topic so it just got a ton of upvotes. of course not trying to gain free rep from someone else's suffering but i wanted to state my opinion to SE, not that they'd probably listen lol

caird coinheringaahing

Or ^, if you want to be less cynical :P

New Meta Posts

1

Q: Should the Language of the Month post be an "Upcoming event"?

Some sites on the network have an additional sidebar box for "Upcoming Events", which is separate from both the "Featured on Meta" and "Host Meta Posts" boxes: Screenshots taken from Movies & TV and Literature. Despite the name, this also includes events currently in progress. I think this woul...

discussion feature-request language-of-the-month

caird coinheringaahing

@NewMetaPosts Damn, you're getting quick

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing and I'm out here scrounging for rep when you get it force-fed down you

hyper-neutrino

7:17 PM

you'll get rep over time. you just haven't posted enough :P (0/23)

my advice for SE is to not focus on rep at all. it will come over time; focus on the quality of your own posts and enjoying using the site itself

caird coinheringaahing

@StackMeter If you want some "easy" rep, check this out :P

hyper-neutrino

of course, easy to say for someone with 30k rep whose rep doesn't even matter, but... still.

^^ that too

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, it always feels a bit "ivory tower" when I suggest that people should ignore rep :/

hyper-neutrino

huh, apparently some sites are experimenting with / changing to three-vote closure limit

probably don't need anything like that here?

caird coinheringaahing

Probably not

Wezl

7:20 PM

Poll: Should stars give reputation?

hyper-neutrino

it's likely for sites with more bad activity but fewer active/high-rep users

Wezl

(I vote no)

hyper-neutrino

@Wezl absolutely not

caird coinheringaahing

It's likely to make vtcing as unclear worse, and we have enough traffic to not have to wait too long for obviously close-worthy questions to stay open

@Wezl Yes, but 0.1 rep per message that is starred

hyper-neutrino

yeah, I agree.

heh, 0.1 rep and after adding the rep your rep gets rounded, so it doesn't accumulate over 10 messages

caird coinheringaahing

7:20 PM

You only get the +1 rep for each 10 messages that have say 3 stars or more :P

@hyper-neutrino Nah, you get 0.9 rep per star, but the reputation variable is an int :P

hyper-neutrino

:P

Redwolf Programs

Reminds me of the time I decided to be "smart" and average a bunch of numbers by averaging the first two, then averaging that with the next one, and so on :p

caird coinheringaahing

CMC: ^ That

user

@Wezl No

Wezl

@cairdcoinheringaahing how about 18446744073709551615 rep?

hyper-neutrino

7:22 PM

Æm€/ probably

Redwolf Programs

n=>n.reduce((a,i)=>(a+i)/2,n[0])

Wezl

@RedwolfPrograms I think this is invalid

Redwolf Programs

Oh wait

There

Wezl

it averages between the first and 0, right?

Redwolf Programs

Fixed

Wezl

7:24 PM

(+÷2)/ in APL I think

caird coinheringaahing

Jelly, 4 bytes +H¥/

hyper-neutrino

+H¥/ should work too

bruh

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl Doesn't / reduce from the right?

@hyper-neutrino Get nae nae'd :P

Redwolf Programs

Ash, two bytes: ρq

hyper-neutrino

:o

Wezl

7:24 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't think the order matters

user

@Wezl (2÷⍨+)/⌽, I think

caird coinheringaahing

@Wezl Pretty sure it does

hyper-neutrino

@Wezl [1,1,0] from the left is 0.5, from the right is 0.75

user

+÷2 is just the number 0.5

Redwolf Programs

Aw, never mind. q is average of an array :(

caird coinheringaahing

7:25 PM

[1,2,3,4,5] -> 4.0625

Wezl

@user ok you're right and thanks for the pings >:/

Redwolf Programs

It'd actually be ρ{q,

hyper-neutrino

f=lambda a:a[1:]and f([sum(a[:2])/2]+a[2:])or a[0] in python probably

caird coinheringaahing

→ 10 messages moved to Trash

hyper-neutrino

this is karma

user

7:29 PM

lol

hyper-neutrino

i wish the move messages linked to the transcript

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino How do you still have a link to that? :P

@hyper-neutrino Click the "10 messages"

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing chat search feature; just looked for when i said "edited" because i recall telling Wezl that editing re-pings in case they didn't know :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing lol im smart

caird coinheringaahing

Well, we haven't had any Indonesian gambling spam for 16 hours, which is progress :P

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing wdym

caird coinheringaahing

7:31 PM

20 hours ago, by caird coinheringaahing

That's 4 spam posts about Indonesian gambling within the past 24 hours now :/

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing wrong

caird coinheringaahing

ಠ_ಠ I completely overlooked that in the New Posts listing

hyper-neutrino

caught in just under 2 minutes though, probably thanks to CHQ

Redwolf Programs

> [game-of-life] [logic-gates]

caird coinheringaahing

It's the most recent new post as well

hyper-neutrino

7:32 PM

:P

user

@cairdcoinheringaahing It's just after midnight in Indonesia rn, give it some time :P

hyper-neutrino

please don't jinx it ಠ_ಠ

StackMeter

@user I burned myself in the shower once lol

caird coinheringaahing

Anyone else remember Wesley Atwood (or similar), the super offensive spam poster from a few months back? That was fun to deal with :P

user

@StackMeter That sucks

@cairdcoinheringaahing fun?

caird coinheringaahing

7:34 PM

@user "fun"

Redwolf Programs

I actually kind of like the occasional spam, because it shows off just how good our moderation is :p

user

Oh, ""fun""

Wezl

@Wezl While this is a bad idea, I still think it would be nice to (very gradually) get more rep the more you talk in chat (saying this as one who posts less on main than chat :)

pxeger

'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''fun'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

user

@RedwolfPrograms Or rather, how little activity we get

hyper-neutrino

7:35 PM

uhhhhh trying to remember who atwood was

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Kept using racial slurs in his spam and claimed that the US government was trying to silence him

Posted like 15 spam posts in a day

hyper-neutrino

i'm either forgetting or i was a bit too inactive during that period and you guys got to it before i noticed. again a demonstration of the amazing community moderation here :P

StackMeter

@pxeger """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""fun"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""", """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""fun""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" indeed

caird coinheringaahing

Link (10k+ only, obviously)

Another one

hyper-neutrino

this is familiar

yes. i've definitely seen this

StackMeter

7:38 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing the links are dead

hyper-neutrino

@StackMeter you don't have enough rep to see deleted posts

caird coinheringaahing

@StackMeter You need 10k reputation to see deleted posts

Those are the only posts I've had to use "rude or abusive" post flags on, rather than spam flags :P

@RedwolfPrograms (NSFW, deleted), Love this comment of yours :P

hyper-neutrino

oh i remember that. that was hilarious :P

this post insulting me and Jo King; ironic given who went on to become mods

caird coinheringaahing

> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because what even...

hyper-neutrino

it's due to this post

and this

caird coinheringaahing

7:42 PM

I do not remember those at all

hyper-neutrino

i only remembered the question and the first one since, well, they were kinda talking about me / i had interacted with the post

Redwolf Programs

I just fed my cats. One of them keeps trying to eat the other's food, and eight times I've caught her and she runs away, and then without fail she'll walk right back a minute later

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing bro I can't even see this

hyper-neutrino

just get 10k rep ez

StackMeter

@RedwolfPrograms eight in how many times

hyper-neutrino

7:44 PM

(there is nothing nice to see)

StackMeter

@hyper-neutrino I've been at 301 for a week and a half

caird coinheringaahing

It's just a couple of users being incredibly rude to HN, JoKing and other people

pxeger

someone should make some kind of mirror bot to resolve that limitation. But how would a bot get 10k rep, that's the question...

hyper-neutrino

oh, there was also that one user that insulted me by digging up my na.op.gg profile and insulting me for being bronze in League of Legends (???)

pxeger

Maybe I should sacrifice my account when I get there

Wezl

7:45 PM

@StackMeter you haven't posted for a while, though

Redwolf Programs

That guy got a compliment from xnor and then proceeded to insult them

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino Pfff, imagine only being bronze. Made by the never played LoL gang :P

hyper-neutrino

you know what's ironic

i was Iron rank at the time, which is lower than Bronze. so they can't even insult me right

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StackMeter

@hyper-neutrino if you're going to insult me, insult me consistently

Wezl

wow lol

hyper-neutrino

7:46 PM

> I'm glad to see you've conceded civil discussion and shown your true self. It was always obvious that you were looking for trouble :)

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(posted by me)

caird coinheringaahing

"Imma bought to end this man's whole career" - HN, just before posting that comment

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh

hyper-neutrino

Of course, as a mod now, I would never engage users like this, because admittedly it was inflammatory and sort of trying to get even more out of them. I didn't have the ability to just suspend the user back then though. forget if i even flagged the comments, cuz i just found it funny, it didn't hurt me it was just... absurd to the point of being funny

caird coinheringaahing

Yeah, I always get the temptation to do that, but figure that it'll just make me angry at them more than it will them at me :/

StackMeter

@cairdcoinheringaahing I love flaming people to piss them off

Redwolf Programs

7:49 PM

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StackMeter

@RedwolfPrograms you missed a lot

caird coinheringaahing

Plus, the last time I did that, the user literally dug up old chat transcripts to call me a f*gg*t, which was fun ಠ_ಠ

hyper-neutrino

i had/have... a bad habit of acting super nice and friendly in an obviously sarcastic sense towards people who become hateful or uncivil (so long as they are only attacking me and i don't find it hurtful yet - i will not tolerate that against people i care about). mostly did that on Quora, not SE though.

StackMeter

@hyper-neutrino honestly, I'd just say f**k them and go for the throat asap

hyper-neutrino

well, I've tried to get rid of that habit, and especially on CGCC, if they've gotten to that point, it is grounds for me to suspend them immediately

Redwolf Programs

7:53 PM

@StackMeter The best thing to do when users are being rude/offensive is just to ignore them and have their account get suspended/banned/destroyed. Typically they want confrontation, so responding angrily will be exactly what they want.

caird coinheringaahing

The problem with engaging with those kind of users is that they literally don't care what they say and so will insult you to the ends of the Earth. I can live without being insulted tbh

hyper-neutrino

i doubt they care even if i respond in a friendly manner and am totally unhurt/unaffected. they probably think i'm putting up a front and am secretly really upset, even though i'm not, so it doesn't really matter what i say, as long as i respond they'll keep insulting me

caird coinheringaahing

Especially because as soon as those kinda people see that I go by different pronouns, it becomes 1000 times worse :/

StackMeter

@RedwolfPrograms why would they want confrontation - for all they know, this might be the one person to not p!ss off

hyper-neutrino

and i doubt they're upset themselves, they probably think they're so clever for what they say, so it's entirely unproductive. hence why i try to avoid it

caird coinheringaahing

7:55 PM

@StackMeter Have you ever engaged with one of these users?

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh, yeah, i can imagine :/ that's upsetting

caird coinheringaahing

Everyone who isn't themselves pisses them off

@hyper-neutrino which is why I don't bother and just flag. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hyper-neutrino

the best advice is to just flag them and ignore them and if they keep causing trouble and it's getting super serious and nothing has happened feel free to ping me here :P

caird coinheringaahing

That was completely inappropriate @StackMeter

Redwolf Programs

@StackMeter Please don't post offensive stuff here, even if it's not directed at anyone in particular

And in many cases responding to someone with that would make you an equally large part of the problem

caird coinheringaahing

7:58 PM

Once you get into the mud with them, everyone's getting dirty

hyper-neutrino

Don't engage troublesome users, just flag them, ignore them, disengage. And even if it's not directed at anyone, do not post inappropriate content here. Even against troublesome users, don't attack them yourselves; it's one thing to respond to them with friendly messages to piss them off, it's another thing to be hurtful yourself. Our policy doesn't care if you or the other person started it - Be Nice applies to everyone.

Let's move on from this topic.

Redwolf Programs

^

hyper-neutrino

nice weather we've got here, huh

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caird coinheringaahing

Hmm, yes, it's very <insert weather>

Redwolf Programs

What's it like where you are?

hyper-neutrino

7:59 PM