The Nineteenth Byte

:)

8:01 PM

how would you do this with jelly

i don't think hoogle for jelly would work

unless you mean over

You might be able to kinda do it

i meant over (i have no idea what hoogle is)

FgFɗ? maybe?

jelly does not have any good equivalent of over

@hyper-neutrino Joogle

8:02 PM

where good means golfy as opposed to effective because there's like five effective ways to go it

@hyper-neutrino fgf}

So over would be like g(f(a), f(b)) in other languages

Yes

@hyper-neutrino If f is a link that's more than one byte: ,f€g/

In Ash you would write that like gfafb, easy :p

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh yeah, that would work. i had an idea similar to that but i thought it would be far too long; guess not, lol

8:05 PM

Is it recommended to vote in moderator elections on sites you don't spend much time on?

You mean Code Review? :P

Yeah

Being a mod is kinda site-independant here

Code Golf lured me away from SO and CR

I'd expect HN to be a good mod on any site they wanted to

8:06 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~~Aight time to screw over CR by voting for a bad mod~~

So I think take a look at the candidates and if any of them make you go "Yeah, they'll probably be a good mod" then vote for them

Makes sense

I voted for Sᴀᴍ Onᴇᴌᴀ, Mast, and Peilonrayz, no idea who any of those people are but they looked like good choices based on what they wrote :p

@RedwolfPrograms I can speak from experience that Mast is a good user

Actually, I've got some rep and interaction with Cr, I might as well vote :P

Oh, I forgot they changed the election system recently. Looks weird

I was confused on how to vote for a minute :p

8:11 PM

what did they change exactly? I remember they made the questionnaire an official feature

Questionnaire and voting

I don't recall having actually voted in an election since the CGCC one last year, and I can't recall if I voted on any before that.

> candidate score 1/40

That's a rough score to be running on

lol

Welcome to the TNB, @LorenDB!

LorenDB

8:16 PM

Hi!

Any recommendations for tools to use to count bytes?

TIO

Wezl

javascript:(()=>{alert(prompt().length)})() I use a bookmarklet since I don't answer in ~~SBCS languages~~ anything other than ascii usually

If you just need a UTF-8 byte counter, choose a mainstream language such as Python or Java and paste into the Code field

LorenDB

OK, thanks! I just wondered

@Wezl That fails for solutions with non-ascii characters

8:18 PM

If you're using UTF-8 you can use the JS snippet new TextEncoder().encode("code").length

For SBCS languages Wezl's snippet works

rak1507

@cairdcoinheringaahing ... I literally pointed it out yesterday lol

@rak1507 Yeah, I remember (which is why I asked), but I couldn't remember the symbol

rak1507

ah lol, it's the first one on the commands page

Q: Abusing the algebra of algebraic data types - why does this work?

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The 'algebraic' expression for algebraic data types looks very suggestive to someone with a background in mathematics. Let me try to explain what I mean. Having defined the basic types Product • Union + Singleton X Unit 1 and using the shorthand X² for X•X and 2X for X+X et cetera, we can th...

This is pretty beautiful

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

8:47 PM

yeah

New Sandboxed Posts

8:59 PM

0

Implement an Over function Over is a higher-order function in multiple languages such as APL (⍥). It takes 2 functions and 2 values as arguments, applies the first function to both values, then applies the second to their result. For example, using ⍥ to represent Over: 1 ²⍥+ 2 We would first cal...

@Lyxal Not the only Orst answerer anymore :P

9:43 PM

SE chat's FAQ hasn't been updated for so long that the nascent community project to create an IRC link to chat that the FAQ links to hasn't been updated since 2010

you love to see it

I'm gonna regret this

9:59 PM

it's so much fun when you reload and your rep has gone up. Now I want to just keep reloading

10:10 PM

Any glaring issues? Its a simple enough challenge that I might just post it later

Lyxal

What tf happened here overnight? I leave for roughly 8 hours and y'all have 69 million conversations at once.

It's monday, everyone's bored at work or school :P

@hyper-neutrino this looks to have a pretty solid consensus (+7/-0, no other answers). Is it worth pinging the CMs to see if we can actually do it?

Lyxal

@NewSandboxedPosts hey so how would a language like 05ab1e take black box functions as input? Iirc there isn't exactly a way to "define" a function for later use.

Strings to be evaluated?

I feel like that's more of an issue with general meta than with the challenge itself

10:21 PM

^

I'm fine with more or less any reasonable method of "run a specific bit of code with 1/2 arguments"

forget what the precedent is from the last time this came up with the zipwith challenge

10:49 PM

Just got an upvote on this, was sad that I lost 10 rep to the repcap, then realised it's CW so I wouldn't have gotten any rep anyway :P

lol

11:15 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing added a new meta post for a final consensus just to make sure everyone's on board, and if so, i'll get it touch to have this done

@hyper-neutrino Upvoted :)

why is the nominations thread back on the featured list aaaaaa

go away

i unlocked it just to get it to leave and re-locked it when it stopped showing up and now it's back

It's cursed

The nominations thread pops on and off, whereas the Welcome page just gets silently removed :/

My most starred chat message is about cats throwing up

Why

11:19 PM

Gotta love a -356 answer O.o

> +25
-381

my two tied most starred messages are one about having an option for a gold tag-badge user to vote as duplicate but not hammer, and one telling conor o'brien that emoji and emoticons are not the same :P

@hyper-neutrino status-review

this is truly a bruh moment

@RedwolfPrograms mine

@UnrelatedString Both have comedic value

nitsua60

11:24 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Did you look into the timeline-->vote summaries? That was not well received the instant it went up.

Users: Please. We're begging. Fix *one* important bug
SE: Hey, we tracked Copy-Paste stats because of April Fools, isn't that cool?
Users: ...just ...one ...bug ..please
SE: Did you know that anonymous users copy-paste a lot? Isn't that cool and unexpected?
Users: Fine. No bug fixes. How about an apology for the lasting harm you caused?
SE: Also, did you know that people copy from code blocks in SO more than from not code blocks!? Who would've known??

@nitsua60 Yeah, I'm not surprised

also did you know that people copy from code blocks in SO more than from not code blocks? who would've known

@cairdcoinheringaahing I would say :P, but...:(

@hyper-neutrino Good point, thanks for the inspiration for more :P

The titles of the questions here are rather amusing

11:28 PM

> Al Gore won't leave me alone. How do I unfriend him on Facebook?

> How can I keep monsters out of my nether regions?