The Nineteenth Byte

12:00 AM

@NewMetaPosts One potential concern: what time is the best time?

that's fair. It'd be smarter to discuss this with ROs when we actually have ROs. i have my upvote locked since we can add ideas and later sort out details or decide against it but i do agree with caird that it's a bit early to start thinking about this even

Lyxal

12:13 AM

coconut mall slowed down by .25% is beautiful

user

Sorry, I didn't mean to do that

Should I delete it (temporarily/permanently)?

caird coinheringaahing

@user Now that it has answers, you can't. I don't think it's worth deleting it, I just think it would've been better to not rush ahead with posting in the future :)

user

:\

hyper-neutrino

I can still delete it, but now that it's up, I don't suppose there is too much of a point; just like caird said, keep it in mind, and this discussion might accumulate a few good ideas so we have a starting point later on or might just be forgotten, so it's not all negative.

user

RedwolfPrograms Wezl Sorry for pinging, but could y'all delete your answers on the chat event thing, at least temporarily, so I can delete my question? (edited to not ping)

rak1507

12:15 AM

why delete it?

user

Temporarily

caird coinheringaahing

Nah, don't

hyper-neutrino

if you really want it deleted I can just do that, but i don't think it's necessary

Lyxal

ah yes, <1mb away from completion my download decided to stop

caird coinheringaahing

I was expressing my frustration as how quickly you posted it, I have nothing against having it posted once you did that

Lyxal

12:16 AM

wonderful

user

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

hyper-neutrino

@Lyxal were you trying to download 0.75% speed coconut mall

> 0.75%

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino no

I was downloading clone hero v.23.2.2

I figured I'd give TQOSC a go

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino didn't take long to write Branch then?

hyper-neutrino

@cairdcoinheringaahing nope :P it's quite simple

also it's easier to prove that it's turing complete than i thought. you can just translate any BF program into it lmao

caird coinheringaahing

12:22 AM

Have you asked Redwolf if it qualifies for his interesting new languages bounty?

hyper-neutrino

i have not

Wezl

looks like a sed one-liner

(that's a compliment)

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino give me a moment to get the correct string compression. Changing the code page screwed up dictionary strings

hyper-neutrino

oh, lol :P you did mention something about breaking string compression a bunch a while ago IIRC

Lyxal

12:42 AM

Ah yes, LFAPOU at it's finest. Rickrolling me when I go to the recently active page

wonderful, no regrets

A username

All these people still need something to do

Lyxal

kevin (the rubik cubes) should cube a number (n ** 3)

I think we said Arnauld (the first icon there) was string compression

hyper-neutrino

bubbler is bubble sort /s

A username

Bubbler can't bubble sort because no arrays or lists

Lyxal

how about just sort in general

@Ausername sort the stack then

A username

12:46 AM

I don't think there is a stack either

Unrelated String

wait yeah what have we decided on the actual syntax being like

A username

You just have a bunch of users

hyper-neutrino

instead of having 256 characters in an SBCS, are you just going to have 256 users lol

A username

Probably yes

Although it'll compile to SBCS text.

This means 210-5! > output

user

Can I be of help?

A username

12:51 AM

If you can think of anything for some of the people in my first message to do

user

Since my name is user, I could perhaps summon other users, like functions

Any suggestions for good lisps?

Lyxal

Digitial Trauma (the triangle user) should be loop

because the pfp looks like it loops around

hyper-neutrino

do we already have outputting

rak1507

shouldn't digital trauma open some traumatising digital content

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino that's me

hyper-neutrino

12:55 AM

if not, adam -> dyalog -> dialog -> ? (a bit of a stretch, yeah :P)

user

Arnauld -> Arnold -> ArnoldC -> execute a piece of arbitrary ArnoldC code

rak1507

lol

Lyxal

@user mind you we're creating an actually usable language

rak1507

Arnauld should do some bitwise stuff maybe

user

Since Luis Mendo seems to be a clone trooper, they could clone/duplicate variables

Lyxal

12:57 AM

rak what are you doing?

rak1507

kevin could do some sort of rotation being a rubix cube

Lyxal

^

rak1507

@Lyxal currently I am typing

Lyxal

no

i mean

what should rak do in userscript?

rak1507

no idea

user

12:58 AM

Push the constant 1507

rak1507

what are my defining traits

that would work

user

Being green

Lyxal

Martin Ender should be less than because we are all less than martin

;p

user

Martin should be greater than

Lyxal

@user no that's dennis

rak1507

12:58 AM

or something to do with hexagons?

Lyxal

dennis is greater than everyone

rak1507

push the nth element of the hexagonal sequence

hyper-neutrino

martin ender should end(er) the program :P

Lyxal

@hyper-neutrino that's deadcode

user

Or end a species/delete all variables of a certain datatype

hyper-neutrino

12:59 AM

oh that makes more sense

Lyxal

because the code is dead at that stage

rak1507

maybe razetime could do some sort of interleaving or some array operation like his profile picture

Lyxal

razetime requested string splitting

user

I'd like invoke functions, please

Lyxal

@OldSandboxPosts nothing to report today?

caird coinheringaahing

1:12 AM

@Lyxal Either that, or something's up with Redwolf's server

I can't do the verification search rn cause I'm on mobile

Ryxer

ryxer should be random()

Lyxal

@Ryxer that's user called Chance

their pfp is two dice

A username

Martin Ender could be delete user

Or we could just have a deleted user for that.

@user Done

@user Yup that works

@rak1507 Sounds good

@Lyxal Ok. Will add that.

A username

1:55 AM

Ok, making Martin less than and a deleted user delete user.

New Sandboxed Posts

2:08 AM

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Meta-golf Branch integers without alphanumeric characters code-challenge restricted-source Recently I created a new programming language, Branch (name thanks to caird coinheringaahing). Representing numbers is pretty easy (actually, trivial; you can just enter the number and it will set the value...

A username

The url has been updated to https://userscript.surge.sh because I just realized that hadn't been taken.

Lyxal

The esolang name userscript is taken anyway

Check the esolangs site

Esolangs.org

A username

But not UserScript!

hyper-neutrino

UserScript is actually what's taken

it's not really a language tho it's kind of a meme

Lyxal

So quick question: what have we decided about having a blog?

A username

2:17 AM

Did anyone click the link?

Lyxal

Non't

A username

Damn it

Lyxal

You don't understand what non't means

Ryxer

@Lyxal a blog?

Lyxal

7

Q: Should we start a blog?

7 years ago, we asked about having a site blog. The idea sort of just stopped and was never followed through. Unfortunately, since then, BlogOverflow (the site supposed to host site blogs) has been shutdown. I brought up the blog in chat, and it was suggested by a couple of users that we give it ...

@Ausername non't is the opposite of yesn't

Ryxer

2:20 AM

hosted elsewhere?

Wasif

@Ausername i accidentally clicked your link :-( a bad way to start morning

A username

@Lyxal What's yesn't though?

Lyxal

@Ausername yes not

Ryxer

@Ausername naturally, it's the opposite of non't

oh frick ninja'd

A username

I give up.

Also which of you is actually Lyxal?

Lyxal

2:22 AM

@Ausername urb dic entry

@Ausername me

Wasif

Ryxer maybe user

And Lyxal is lyxal??

Lyxal

Ryxer is all of us combined

A username

Ok....

Ryxer

riker is back???

Lyxal

@Wasif that's an x not a k.

Get it right

@Ausername yesn't = no, non't = yes

Wasif

2:23 AM

Oh sorry

Ryxer

where did rikerw go :(

Lyxal

Dunno

A username

Oh, so you're all yourselves, except ryxer is the average of you three and is actually ASCII-only.

Lyxal

Pretty much

Wasif

How do you run shared account

Lyxal

2:25 AM

1 min ago, by A username

Oh, so you're all yourselves, except ryxer is the average of you three and is actually ASCII-only.

@Wasif shared password probably

Ryxer

even more secure than an OTP

shared via hivemind, naturally

i blame my internet for the messages sending in the wrong order

A username

I still have

To deal with

And I still need:

Increment

Divide

Exponentiation

Ryxer

adam for arrays naturally.

A username

Logarithm
Property access - Rep, people reached, Question amount, answer amount

Ryxer

tsh for system() maybe

Wasif

2:34 AM

I saw a messaage that i was the if statements, but for what?? (I think i really missed a lot of things)

Ryxer

didn't razetime want to be split

Lyxal

@Ryxer I said that up a bit further

@Wasif conditional control flow

A username

@Ryxer I'm not sure how to implement arrays. And this is a web esolang, so no root access.

Razetime

@Ryxer yes I am split thank you

Wasif

No i asked what language how will it work

Lyxal

2:36 AM

@Ausername Adam can be increment (because he increments users rep with apl bounties)

A username

@Wasif user (Lyxal) decided you should be if statements in the language we're working on, Userscript.

@Lyxal Sure.

Lyxal

@Ausername doorknob should be divide because a doorknob has the handle part and the part attached to the door

Wasif

Hehe nice recreational project

A username

@Lyxal Yup

Unrelated String

@Ausername we could change him to something else though, since he still wasif

Ryxer

2:38 AM

emphasis on was?

Unrelated String

that is the joke

A username

@Wasif Do you want to be something else, or are you fine with if statement?

Wasif

I am fine with if statement

Ryxer

offtopic, anyone remember caird's username before he was caird?

cuz i sure don't

Wasif

@Ryxer ChartZ Belatedly

Ryxer

2:40 AM

._.

Redwolf Programs

No like before they were caird the first time

A username

I joined 4 months ago.

Lyxal

@Ryxer there probably are people that remember, so yes.

Wasif

Use wayback machine the page was surely indexed someday

A username

@Wasif Wayback machine wont work because username is part of url

Lyxal

2:43 AM

Not exactly

Wasif

@Ausername no

Lyxal

The username is part of the url

Ryxer

username is an optional part of the url

Wasif

Userid is the main

Lyxal

Ninjad

Ryxer

2:44 AM

hmm

A username

:(

Wasif

I think it is no more indexed before

But the pfp was different

Redwolf Programs

You included caird-coinheringaahing in the URL

Wasif

@RedwolfPrograms it automatically got added

Redwolf Programs

Oh

Ryxer

2:49 AM

it was redirected at crawl time, yes

user

3:25 AM

Bonne nuit

hyper-neutrino

username history is probably private for a reason but if you tried hard enough you could maybe find replies to their account from long ago. i wouldn't recommend it though; if caird wants to tell you they will and if not i wouldn't advise digging for it

user

What’s cairds command? Is it dog related? (because I can’t think of anything you can get from their username)

Lyxal

3:44 AM

new user

because caird welcomes new users

simple

user

Makes sense

What about you?

Lyxal

output

Wasif

Who is for stack exchange api

We need a user with >25k rep for this

user

Well i made a language called stack exchange but I think I’m a command already

Wasif

@user what command you have been

user

3:58 AM

I asked to invoke other users/functions

hyper-neutrino

4:14 AM

is there any way to limit the amount of memory a subprocess in Python can consume using the subprocess module? subprocess.run has a timeout parameter but nothing I can find to limit memory usage

Lyxal

I want to know this answer too

A username

5:03 AM

Maybe Bubbler can be bounty, since they give out a lot?

nitsua60

Progress on Cubically R.E.P.A.I.R.I.N.G. the keyboard. Should have gone to bed two hours ago.

Lyxal

5:25 AM

@Ausername quite the opposite

last year they took a considerable amount from Adam

A username

True - Adam has offered nearly 4 times as many bounties.

But Adám is already increment/upvote...

Also, an empty program outputs fizzbuzz.

New Main Posts

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Q: Shrinking Triangles

Write an infinite list of triangle codes, defined as code where the i-th line has i bytes for all lines, such that the i-th code generate (i-1)th code and is 1 line more than (i-1)th code. Fewest line of the first code win. For example, if . .. ... .... can be outputted by . .. ... .... print c...

code-golf code-generation

New Sandboxed Posts

5:48 AM

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Generating Brainf*** NOPs but probables of every output shouldn't differ more than poly(n) Not a posted question

donald

7:15 AM

CMC given a string of printable ASCII characters, find the longest substring of alphabetic characters (that is chars from A-Z or a-z)

hyper-neutrino

how should ties be broken?

donald

@hyper-neutrino any way you like

as in all options are valid

hyper-neutrino

@donald Jelly, 11 bytes: e€ØẠ¬œpµLÞṪ (could probably be golfed significantly)

donald

TIO?

hyper-neutrino

TIO

donald

7:21 AM

@hyper-neutrino very nice!

can you explain the method?

hyper-neutrino

e€ØẠ¬œpµLÞṪ  main link
 €           for each element in the input
e            is it an element of
  ØẠ         "ABC...XYZabc...xyz"
    ¬        logical NOT
     œp      partition the original string, removing the non-letters
       µ     chain separator to stop ^ from chaining
         Þ   sort by
        L    length
          Ṫ  and take the last element

donald

it's very clever

I wonder what it will be in other languages

New Main Posts

7:35 AM

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Q: The Great Battle Conundrum- Who are Alive?

Maximillian is the chief commander of the Great Greek Army and he is leading his forces into a crucial war with Spain. If all the enemy soldiers stand in a straight line incrementally marked starting from position 1, and a particular soldier at position \$i\$ dies, the soldiers at position \$2i\$...

code-golf binary-tree

Wasif

Python 3, 52 bytes Try it online!

Python 3, 58 bytes (Fixed fool proof) Try it online!

The older code had a bug

Unrelated String

7:52 AM

@hyper-neutrino -3

feel like something can be done with Œs but it didn't seem to work out here

hyper-neutrino

8:05 AM

is returning the length rather than the actual substring acceptable?

my code is outputting the whole substr itself

Unrelated String

oh wait yeah missed that part

lmao

well i got 10 bytes if you can return multiple results in the case of a tie

ẆfƑØẠȧLƲÐṀ

probably also does something very wrong if there aren't any alphabetical characters

okay yeah

oh wait you don't need the $ either lol

hyper-neutrino

8:23 AM

how do I get python's subprocess.run to include newlines when using capture_output = True?

Unrelated String

so it's actually a pretty nice 9 bytes, ẆfƑƇØẠLÞṪ

that is a good question

Anush

8:34 AM

@Wasif I had no idea you could do that!

Unrelated String

it is 3 bytes shorter if you just import re but otherwise quite nice

A username

8:55 AM

Javascript 58 bytes - Wasif's seems to be unportable. Try it online!

Wasif

Python 3, 55 bytes, -3 bytes Thanks to @UnrelatedString :) Try it online!

@Anush Its an easy trick though... max() has the key operator... you don't need sorted()

@Ausername Did you find whom will you make exponent?

A username

Not yet have you thought of anyone

I have an idea of making badges an array or list...

Wasif

I have an idea, make Bubbler increment, and Adam exponent, because Bubbler too gave a lot of bounties

Oh i see user is also unimplemented now, you can make him increment too

A username

Maybe. Also, golfed it down to 53 bytes: Try it online!. No user is implemented, they're function calling.

Are you on the current version - userscript.surge.sh

Wasif

Oh sorry i mistook user's icon with Neil's

They look similar

A username

9:06 AM

Neil could be something

tsh could be bitwise or

to complement Arnauld

Wasif

Your TIO link is a rickroll FYI

Idea! Implement Neil to end program and Deadcode to something related to regex

A username

Yes I know, I'm trying to out-rickroll Lyxal.

Deadcode ends program and pxeger is a regex delimiter.

I think bubbler can be bubble sort now that I actually have an array datatype...

Wasif

Have you tried my userscript to turn all links to rickroll: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/82806/2021/4/13

Don't share it here

To test safely, remove the eval()

A username

Ok.

Neil could be exponent, unused...

Wasif

What are the Remaining functions?

How are you implementing string literals?

A username

9:12 AM

I guess anything commonplace and useful.

Unrelated string is a string delimiter, and I'm going to steal Jelly's string compression but modified to work with my SBCS.

Wasif

No how you'll push strings inside the quotes (unrelated string) like abcd into ""

A username

Code will be like

Where each user represents an ASCII character

I'll get someone for compressed string delimiters.

Wasif

Giving a pseudo code of it will be better

I mean what it will do, String delimiter+Regex delimiter+call function+Addition..... ???

Can't understand what it'll do

Lyxal

No, it's all a string

All of it

A username

Compiles to

Wasif

9:23 AM

What will the string look like

A username

"/f+057" is what it compiles to but there'll be a better way to represent users as characters.

Wasif

Now i understand

what about remaining letters like a,b,c,d...

I suggest find 26 users for starting with a-z and add them to the list

A username

No - each user serves a double purpose.

Once as a program control part, once as a character.

Wasif

I see then A username -> A, Wasif - W, Lyxal -> L and so on?

A username

Maybe.

I can have up to 256 characters in my SBCS and I currently have 45, so lots of functions or other can be added...

Wasif

9:29 AM

Sine and Cosine is done, who will be tangent?

tangentstorm, tan close matches

A username

Added tangentstorm. For some functions I'm going to have to choose someone unrelated or not obvious

Wasif

lcm -> least common multiple

Having trouble finding greatest common divisor

Also your Download as PNG is not working

A username

9:46 AM

You have to right click the image - It won't allow automatic download because it has cross-source images so can't be turned to dataurl. Click the image to delete it afterwards.

New Bounties With No Deadlines

10:04 AM

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A: List of bounties with no deadline

500 rep for a Vim answer to Sticky Polyhexes What it says on the tin. An explanation would be appreciated. Language must be Vim, not the V derivative. Good luck!