The Nineteenth Byte

12:12 AM

You mean retemplating life?

tough crowd tonight

retemplating file?????

can we have an f in chat

it turns out charcoal's string compression is kinda terrible

@hyper-neutrino Haven't noticed any taking a look through the recently deleted answers

I've definitely used it a couple of times at least otherwise I wouldn't have it saved

fortunately it doesn't seem like the people i've sent this to ever looked at it or decided to fix, or most are probably inactive :P

Ooh, as bad as Latin Square was, it did contribute towards Socratic :P

okie

Is there unary compiler?

12:28 AM

@okie 16 bytes in Jelly, takes the size of the program and outputs the corresponding BF: BḊs3Ḅị“<+-.,[]>”

Add an L in front to take input as an actual Unary program

@hyper-neutrino 15 bytes

ah right

Isn't Unary where the input is the number of zeroes called Golunar?

yes

Yes

12:30 AM

of which Duocentehexaquinquagesimal is a derivative

> It is thus even further removed from usability.

Golunar is more usable than Unary

I saw that Duocentehexaquinquagesimal had a code page and got excited, then realized it was a quadruple derivative

at least the programs fit in the universe

@RedwolfPrograms not even a new codepage either; it's just 05AB1E's codepage

Yeah, that's where the fourth derivativeness comes from :p

right, i can't count

12:32 AM

No, I just made that up when I realized I miscounted the number of language it was derived from

You gave me a convenient excuse so I took it

._.

It takes 10IPL somewhere between forty and sixty bytes to do a conditional jump :/

Clearly to make it more derivative, we should add in stax's packing to Duocentehexaquinquagesimal

That's ~~basically~~ what it is

Stax packed unary

Make it a quinary derivative

i will +500 a quine in Duocentehexaquinquagesimal

12:37 AM

Bet

Never wrote a quine before but I guess it's time to learn

Unrelated String

it's pretty easy once you've seen one

You probably won't use the typical quine methods to write it

Unrelated String

for normalish languages

You could probably just repeatedly run the program with new inputs until it reaches a fixed point

since duocentehexaquinquagesimal uses an SBCS, is outputting equivalent bytes valid as a quine?

12:39 AM

I think that's what you'd do yeah

@cairdcoinheringaahing you'd probably be waiting till the heat death of the universe

@ASCII-only what's wrong with it?

nothing

just that hello world apparently can't be compressed to below 13 chars

not in brotli's dictionary?

guess not

12:42 AM

(I managed to force TIO's charcoal to mostly accept complex numbers again: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/222982/17602)

i don't imagine it would be a very common string tbf

o_o

Hey wanna see something funny I made?

I am curious and want to see, but after seeing will probably wish that I hadn't.

^

Seeing terrible things is temporary, getting annoyed at Lyxal is forever :P

12:45 AM

@Lyxal Make this your profile picture, I beg or dare you, whichever works

what is this

@ASCII-only well, they exist separately, if gist.github.com/klauspost/2900d5ba6f9b65d69c8e is to be believed, but I don't know how much that takes up after compression

@cairdcoinheringaahing SE probably wouldn't let me because of file size

@ASCII-only honestly I don't know

what manner of creature is in that photo

12:47 AM

That's the final stage of lyxalitis

@Neil charcoal doesn't do sentence casing

I think Lyxal's profile picture should be the text "I am Lyxal"

could probably have done some kind of dictionary compression like jelly

@ASCII-only oh, you said "hello world", but you meant "Hello, World!"?

CMP: What should Lyxal's profile picture be?

12:48 AM

yea

but then again, if you want to make a sentence, why are you using charcoal anywya

actually Charcoal can't compress "hello world" either

@cairdcoinheringaahing I'll change it if y'all give images

i should change my pfp to a bird of some sort

How is unary bijective? Doesn't there have to be 3n+1 bits?

not necessarily

wait actually

rak1507

12:52 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing a picture of your dog, and your profile picture should be lyxals

it would cause maximum confusion

The official converter 404s :|

unary is bijective to the natural numbers, but Unary is not bijective to BF code

@rak1507 That'd just encourage these baseless diagnoses of Lyxalitis

@RedwolfPrograms who said that

The esolangs page says that's how it's converted

12:54 AM

ah

Each character in BF becomes three bits and a one is tacked on

Why did that remind me of the simpsons "one gun can be trivially converted into five guns" thing

it's close

Because you're American

Don't y'all measure things in guns per hamburger or something?

No, it's hamburgers per gun for most things

but the one being tacked on makes it not quite bijective

12:55 AM

Usually we measure frequency in guns per hamburger

And normal stuff with Hb/G

Ah of course

Metric uses fish and chips per knife IIRC

wow I just open the cg homepage forgetting i had my userscript (LFAPOU) still active

I got lucky

What's the userscript?

haha

rickroll (but only sometimes)

12:58 AM

@cairdcoinheringaahing when opening codegolf.stackexchange.com, there's a chance it replaces everything with rick

So if(random) { open(rickroll); }?

pretty much

link

@RedwolfPrograms we use beavertails per hockey stick, sometimes maple syrup per hockey stick to measure things like volume

@cairdcoinheringaahing (gist.github.com/Lyxal/79792919642191e432c8c57fd72d4bd6) if you don't trust me

@hyper-neutrino Can't forget eh's per minute, eh? :P

12:59 AM

If you still don't trust them, gist.github.com/Lyxal/…

OldSandboxPosts

Sandbox posts last active a week ago: Make an image with the pixels from another (WIP), (untitled)

@OldSandboxPosts hello there

General Kenobi!

I was typing that before you even commented lol

@Lyxal I might modify the script to respond to those messages only :P

Wezl

wow have I memorized redwolf's pfp?

1:11 AM

Okay a duocentwhateverthefrick quine is going to be difficult

@Wezl OwO is this Redwolf?

That looks like my GH and Lyxal's GH combined

Lyxal is the foreground obviously, but there's a faint pawprint in the background

Yeah I give up on the duocentfrick quine, my attempts to trivially automate it failed :p

@RedwolfPrograms "frick" - welcome to the spiral

2:03 AM

Hello

yes

y

(I'd spam this chat with "y"s to pretend I'm the yes command, but that likely be frowned upon)

I just joined the chat right when you said Hello lol

@Lyxal How about a picture of Rick Astley? Would that count as rickrolling anyone who sees your profile?

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

@RedwolfPrograms user never said "Hello lol"

they only said "Hello"

stoopid. ;p

New Sandboxed Posts

2:06 AM

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Getting bystanders' help code-golf array-manipulation mathematics The Bystander Effect is a phenomenon where individuals are less likely to help a victim if other people are present. The idea is that as there are more people around, the individual burden is less, and each individual thinks "someo...

@Lyxal y

@user x

y

I just got the discussion tag badge!

@user :/ I was hoping you'd reply a then I'd've replied l

2:07 AM

No idea how

@Lyxal o

I was pretending to be the yes command

@RedwolfPrograms The Sandbox is tagged discussion, so maybe from that?

CMP: What should I change my pfp to? (nothing unique/creative, please)

No, turns out it's mostly from a few discussions I happened to be a part of, as well as a lot of the blog stuff

Sandbox was a small part of it

just implemented base64 encoding/decoding in thunkable

Is that like Scratch?

@user yes but for applications

2:12 AM

@user your identicon, but rotated by 180 degrees (:P)

@hyper-neutrino Done, how does it look now? :P

Your identicon, with the hue changed

@user gonna bet you didn't download the picture, rotate it, and upload as a custom picture, like i said to

if you did then 11/10 otherwise 0/10

@RedwolfPrograms Nah, photo editing is too hard

Make it...and this is a wild suggestion...GREEN

2:14 AM

@hyper-neutrino :(

Or red

Solid green? That sounds nice

I think I'll make it solid black, actually, that's one of my favorite colors

don't try to lie to me, i can check if you uploaded :) (though i won't disclose that, even if it doesn't matter in a joke situation like this, just for consistent adherence to rules (probably))

No no no just your identicon but green

@RedwolfPrograms I told you, editing photos is too hard. I need an uncreative solution

2:15 AM

Also turns out I did a stupid

if you make it solid black i will start getting you, caird, and lyxal mixed up (only because the chat icons are small on the left side of chat)

okay time to try and attempt to implement AES encryption in thunkable

I found a 43 byte solution to a problem that was possible in like ten

Okay maybe 20

nice :D

@hyper-neutrino All the more reason to do it :P

2:49 AM

can someone make a userscript to make starboard messages by yourself have yello star

@Lyxal starboard images is the only one wirth having

→ 248 messages moved to the day TNB became hell

i'm getting a headache already...

oh god this is breaking chat

You have to admit this is a good userscript to have

It's better than starboard images any day

@user On it!

2:51 AM

it won't give you up, or let you down

@Lyxal I thought you made those more discreet.

there are now 5 messages here

Oh yeah

@Lyxal you aren't putting as much effort in as usual

@Lyxal Gotta be more subtle

2:51 AM

didn't you give me a list of rickrolling tips once?

@hyper-neutrino Thank you

@user I know, right? Lyxal isn't themselves

@RedwolfPrograms too true

@user Ha, and I messed it up with RTL override characters

@RedwolfPrograms What are your opinions on SQL? I personally find it to be quite good.

2:52 AM

@Lyxal really? I hate SQL.

@Lyxal Heathen.

]

i am frankly quite amazed that the starboard messages seem to have the right username

@RedwolfPrograms Sorry, that was my cat

Blame it on caching

shouldiblamecaching.com

@user old messages don't update usernames ever

2:53 AM

oh

@Lyxal <whisper>Any tips on impersonating you?</whisper>

someone's going to come across this in the chat logs one day

and wonder why user is talking to himself

lol

I would love to be a fly on that person's laptop

@RedwolfPrograms <whisper>I talk about JS and SQL, I make jokes, and I ask questions about Ash</whisper>

2:55 AM

@user Wait a minute, y'all are tarnishing my reputation as a sane person

@Lyxal <whisper>Thanks!</whisper>

<whisper>make sure to mention 10IPL</whisper>

So for Ash, should I add combinators like K and I?

@user technically they do if the user account is deleted for being underage (and I think only for that reason)

@hyper-neutrino ah okay, got it

Also, who wants to help out on my Minecraft computer?

2:56 AM

@RedwolfPrograms I just want to join for a minute to make sure dennis is in his tank

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/123045/the-day-tnb-became-hell

@RedwolfPrograms clearly that is a no, I is redundant, you only need S and K

when an underage account is deleted every single bit of info the account ever had is completely demolished because SE can't have it (COPPA or something like that)

what's minecraft

@user Right, but those take bytes, and can be useful

2:57 AM

their content is still tied to an ID and can be merged back into another account if the user rejoins after turning 13

@user I honestly don't know