The Nineteenth Byte

Wezl

9:00 PM

I hope not

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI why are all the answers and the question community wiki?

ChartZ Belatedly

Ugh, SO doesn't have mathjax

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Apparently the dependencies are heavy, so only a few sites have it :(

@Wezl Dunno, because it's code-golf?

Nike Dattani

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I don't think that's true at all, it's a few lines of code.

Original Original Original VI

It looks like they were CW from the start, so maybe it was a convention back then.

Nike Dattani

But SO gets 7000 questions/day, so who knows what performance hits SO would take if they had MathJax.

Mathematics.SE has MathJax on pretty much every question, and has 500 questions/day and is doing fine as far as I know.

Redwolf Programs

9:04 PM

MathJax is client side, right?

ChartZ Belatedly

Hey @NikeDattani, and welcome to The Nineteenth Byte!

Original Original Original VI

I think so, yeah

Nike Dattani

@ChartZBelatedly Thanks!

Wezl

@NikeDattani ... and how many people it would help

Nike Dattani

It's obvious that I'm not a regular here? haha

Original Original Original VI

9:04 PM

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A: Which Stack Exchange sites use MathJax?

Which sites support MathJax? These sites (and their respective Meta sites) support MathJax: 3D Printing Amateur Radio Artificial Intelligence Astronomy Aviation Bioinformatics Biology (with mhchem extension) Blender Chemistry (with mhchem extension) Code Golf (with \$ delimiters) Code Review (w...

@NikeDattani There's so few users here that everyone knows when someone's new :P

> MathJax increases page load times drastically, so it's only supported on sites that have demonstrated a serious need for it.

Nike Dattani

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Haha. It does seem like a lot of users compared to other chat rooms though!

Original Original Original VI

@NikeDattani Yes, TNB is very active :P

Nike Dattani

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I think "drastically" is a subjective term. Mathematics.SE has MathJax and I don't notice it loading any slower than SO, but SO has 6000 questions/day so who knows what it would be like. Maybe they're just trying to be prudent. I don't think it's due to having a lot of "dependencies" though.

I have MathJax on my own website, it's not too complicated.

Original Original Original VI

Ah, I see

If all sites could get it, that would be pretty great

ChartZ Belatedly

0

A: Make an application that displays text at random that conforms to the specified regex

Jelly u, 9×10552 bytes “...”LbØ%ịØJV Try it online! More specifically, that's 91700884834339703007349098484211031896356846666050871815250789931429454753927510986469049418450606180557823675059658871264629863399731976398495938144415584884655533034325150324988218725170308790635479629460233690906873...

Not exactly code-golf, more code-bowling tbh :P

rak1507

9:09 PM

LOL

ChartZ Belatedly

Unfortunately, it's CW :(

Nike Dattani

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I agree! I don't see why it's not the default on every site, except for maybe SO which gets too big a volume of questions so might have performance concerns.

ChartZ Belatedly

But how often do you get to have a score off 552 orders of magnitude? :P

Nike Dattani

Do any mods spend time in this room? I came here because of this: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/57414836#57414836

It's not something that has come up for me before, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Is it considered a good idea to ping all the mods?

ChartZ Belatedly

9:12 PM

@NikeDattani Not really. One of our moderators is pingable (JoKing) but a flag on main would make more sense as they're pretty on top of those

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI It's considered not possible. Only JoKing's pingable

rak1507

we need more mods :(

3

ChartZ Belatedly

No, we need more active (in chat) mods

2

rak1507

non active mods are mods by name only

ChartZ Belatedly

Pretty sure all 4 mods are pretty active on main. I rarely have a flag pending for more than a few hours

rak1507

well that's good at least

Original Original Original VI

9:15 PM

I thought Doorknob wasn't active anymore.

ChartZ Belatedly

> Last seen 11 hours ago

New Sandboxed Posts

0

A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Decode Tap/Knoc/Prison Code The code has a lot of names, but is very simple: 1 2 3 4 5 1 A B C D E 2 F G H I J 3 L M N O P 4 Q R S T U 5 V W X Y Z A letter is coded by its coordinates, with the row first, then the column. Ex: M = 3, 2 V 1 2 3 4 5 1 A B C D E 2 F G H I J >3 L M N O...

ChartZ Belatedly

Can't say exactly how active, but they're definitely somewhat active

Original Original Original VI

Ah, good

rak1507

@NewSandboxedPosts surely this a duplicate

looks ok if it isn't though

ChartZ Belatedly

9:17 PM

@rak1507 cough cough

Getting a definite answer to that (not just a +5/-1 answer) would be a good start

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Isn't that a definite answer?

rak1507

seems pretty definite to me

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI When the question is at +12/-0, it kinda suggests that people agree with the question but not the answer

rak1507

especially considering the lack of a 'No' post

Original Original Original VI

Ah

@rak1507 Should I write one?

ChartZ Belatedly

9:20 PM

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Do you believe we shouldn't?

rak1507

if you want

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly No, but just to be the devil's advocate.

ChartZ Belatedly

Cause it shouldn't be a "poll", it should be people who believe in one view or another posting their opinions

Original Original Original VI

So people who disagree can downvote it and it can be settled (I'll make it community wiki because it won't be a good answer).

@ChartZBelatedly Ah

ChartZ Belatedly

So the lack of a No post is pretty strong

Original Original Original VI

9:21 PM

Never mind, then

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI The problem with those style posts is that your "no reasons" aren't going to be the genuine "no reasons" held by people who believe that the answer is "no"

They can make a good guess at them, but they'll never be 100% accurate or genuine

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Fair enough

ChartZ Belatedly

@JoKing I think/guess that you mods have some way of discussing things away from the eyes of us regular users. If so, could you circulate the idea of holding an RO election and get back to us, as the mods (and xnor) are currently the only ones who can appoint new ROs?

Seems like, although it isn't a solid definite answer that we do want more ROs, it seems as though there isn't a substantial disagreement

Cool

rak1507

new thing?

ChartZ Belatedly

Old thing

187

Q: List of unlinked pages on Stack Exchange sites

Here is a list of special, unlinked pages (they may be linked in questions and answers) on Stack Exchange sites. Most pages listed here are work in progress or legacy. Currently, this list is incomplete. If you know more of them, add them to the answer. Related Hidden features of Stack Exchange...

rak1507

9:30 PM

ah

ChartZ Belatedly

Some of them are quite interesting

rak1507

is it any different to sorting by votes?

ChartZ Belatedly

Yeah, see the Alan Walker question

Not sure what in the hell happened with that question, cause it always shows up in long term site stat listings

rak1507

lmao yeah what

ChartZ Belatedly

But it's only a 17 score, 13 answer kolmo

rak1507

9:31 PM

do you know if there is a way to sort by views? I've always wanted that

ChartZ Belatedly

Don't know, sorry :/

rak1507

no problem

ChartZ Belatedly

The users who participated the most in the last 60 days

rak1507

gnat, ofc

ChartZ Belatedly

(Combined total of posts, votes, comments and edits)

Redwolf Programs

9:33 PM

> Redwolf Programs is considered a high activity user, up to 0 of their answers could have been considered when the predictor was last updated Jan 8 '14 at 20:00.

codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/tag-future/79857

This is cool but looks broken

ChartZ Belatedly

That's a "you" only page :P

rak1507

oh cool I have the second most rep gained this month

Redwolf Programs

Replace the id with your CGCC id :p

ChartZ Belatedly

> The Predictor...
Thinks ChartZ Belatedly prefers, when compared to a typical user, to answer questions tagged:
code-golf string number kolmogorov-complexity math
decision-problem integer arithmetic array-manipulation sequence
Thinks ChartZ Belatedly prefers, when compared to a typical user, to avoid questions tagged:
algorithm code-challenge fastest-code c c++
interpreter cryptography javascript word-puzzle music

rak1507

beating arnauld! lol

ChartZ Belatedly

9:34 PM

TBH that's not too wrong

Bloody hate C, C++ and Javascript. Too long :/

Original Original Original VI

The predictor is literally empty for me

rak1507

same

Original Original Original VI

Mwahaha I've the most participation this month

ChartZ Belatedly

@rak1507 I'm sustained by Original's bounties :P Got +1100 so far :P

Original Original Original VI

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Not sure how, though, I haven't been posting too many answers recently

rak1507

9:36 PM

I have a few bounties too

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Get some more while you still can :P

rak1507

need to do more answering old questions in APL/factor

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI But those questions are hard :/

rak1507

ikr

ChartZ Belatedly

I fluctuate between "asking", "answering" and "moderating". Currently in a mod phase :P

Original Original Original VI

9:37 PM

@ChartZBelatedly Which is what the bounty is for. Now move your lazy ***** and start posting some answers!

rak1507

I fluctuate between 'answering' and 'doing the homework that I should have been doing during the answering'

ChartZ Belatedly

@rak1507 The trick is to be in the sweet spot of "leaving high school" and "attending university" :P

rak1507

still ~a year left before that for me :(

but the time will come... and I will answer every question on the site and drain everyone of their rep! insert evil laugh here

ChartZ Belatedly

I believe either Dennis or Martin have the most posts on the site at around 3000, and we (currently) have 12090 undeleted questions

Good luck :P

Mark Giraffe

Hello! :)

rak1507

9:40 PM

I'd better get to it

ChartZ Belatedly

Oh nice, I haven't had any declined flags in the past week: codegolf.stackexchange.com/users/flag-summary/…

rak1507

I don't think it would be impossible to answer every question on the site, just most of them suck so it wouldn't be very interesting or fun to do so

Mark Giraffe

I'm soon making a custom header of Code Golf SE.

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Or being a professional golfer :P

ChartZ Belatedly

If I wanted to get paid to golf, I'd have to join Dyalog :P

rak1507

9:42 PM

they've already got one professional golfer, do they need any more? (@dyalog if you do hmu)

Original Original Original VI

CMP: Who here thinks code golf should become a proper sport? (we can recruit Tiger Woods)

Mark Giraffe

XD

rak1507

probably the only golf he can do now after his accident :(

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Nah, we've got enough adverts on the site already :/

Original Original Original VI

@rak1507 Oh, I didn't know about that ⍨

Mark Giraffe

9:44 PM

I bet code golf in that sort would be throwing your computer into the trash for raging that you forgot the semicolon. XD

rak1507

olympic code golf: participants frantically ctrl-f-ing on golf lang builtin pages to find a one character solution to the halting problem

Makonede

interesting

Original Original Original VI

@rak1507 At that level, they'd probably have the code page memorized :)

Makonede

huh yeah

rak1507

yeah probably

and have 7 different keyboard layouts memorised

or like tom scotts emoji keyboard, have a huge keyboard with all the golfing languages code pages on them

Original Original Original VI

9:46 PM

Probably have a custom keyboard that looks nothing like qwerty :P

Makonede

@rak1507 maybe not all the golfing langs, but this is a thing

rak1507

yeah seen it before, pretty cool

John Dvorak

you could use one keyboard with OLED keys, and pedals to switch between registers (code pages), like they do with organ keyboards

rak1507

if I ever win the lottery I am so doing that

the golfing organ

Makonede

ah yes

golfing organ

rak1507

9:53 PM

bonus points if it functions as a real organ as well and I can play music on it

Makonede

y e s

Original Original Original VI

@rak1507 It could be multipurpose - each key would both produce a sound and a character :P

rak1507

that's what I was thinking, it would be a real organ but each key would have the side effect of typing a character

Original Original Original VI

10:07 PM

Who is Rakesh Kumar and why are they user 0?

Lyxal

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I actually don't know

@ChartZBelatedly that's where you're wrong kiddo

Redwolf Programs

Why was that flagged?

Original Original Original VI

@RedwolfPrograms Lyxal must have flagged it

@Lyxal Right...

rak1507

@Lyxal do you search for your name to see if people are talking about you

Original Original Original VI

@rak1507 I pinged them

Lyxal

10:12 PM

@rak1507 because I read every message posted overnight

ChartZ Belatedly

Don't flag messages unless they're actually offensive

rak1507

ah

Lyxal

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI but I found it a very marginally bit offensive. :p

Redwolf Programs

Enough to be worth bringing it to the attention of every 10k+ user online?

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly I think I hit valid on that instead of invalid, so if something happened to your comment, I apologize

ChartZ Belatedly

10:14 PM

Well, the flag indicator has gone, and it's still there, so it looks good :)

Original Original Original VI

Oh good

@RedwolfPrograms Honestly, flags should just notify users in the same room (or site), unless there aren't enough 10k+ users there.

ChartZ Belatedly

Luckily we have enough 10k users here to deal with them quickly enough

Oooh, those who are pingable here

Takes a bit of mental parsing, but the usernames are all there

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Heh, imagine not having a JSON viewer built into your browser

Redwolf Programs

Not sure what the first field is

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Imagine needing a JSON viewer to look at things :P

Redwolf Programs

10:23 PM

Third and fourth are obviously dates

ChartZ Belatedly

@RedwolfPrograms Chat IDs

Redwolf Programs

@ChartZBelatedly I am a JSON viewer

Original Original Original VI

@ChartZBelatedly Right, real programmers just parse stuff mentally :P

@RedwolfPrograms Don't tell me you browse the web solely by inspecting the HTML and mentally rendering it :P

ChartZ Belatedly

@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Personally, my brain can send and receive packets, so I don't even need a computer :P

HAHA, go to the tour and press the Konami code :P

rak1507

1⌷⍉↑⎕JSON data personally I use APL to parse JSON :P

(I was going to use httpcommand to make a get request but you need to be logged in and I cba)

@ChartZBelatedly not working for me...

ChartZ Belatedly

10:29 PM

@rak1507 Press Enter instead of Select (what were you pressing?)

rak1507

oh, there's a place to type? or something?

Redwolf Programs

I implemented something similar on a game of mine but it just went to a rickroll

ChartZ Belatedly

No, just press UUDDLRLRab<Enter>

rak1507

ah it worked ok I needed to hit enter

Redwolf Programs

This seems like it should be changed

ChartZ Belatedly

10:31 PM

Uh oh, not this again

rak1507

also maybe the bit about accepting answers

Lyxal

@ChartZBelatedly imagine being able to input arrow keys

Made by mobile gang

ChartZ Belatedly

And also all of it

Redwolf Programs

Also the example answer is not really a quality answer by our standards

ChartZ Belatedly

Neither is the example question

Redwolf Programs

10:33 PM

Ugh

rak1507

lol

Redwolf Programs

We should close it

ChartZ Belatedly

If I run in the next mod election, my slogan will be "Vote for me, and I'll annoy SE so much they'll have to listen to us"

rak1507

I'm in

ChartZ Belatedly

How I feel whenever I go to any help page:

Neil

10:39 PM

@ChartZBelatedly only 3000 posts? I have way more than that many answers

(and 7 questions!)

Original Original Original VI

@Lyxal You can drag up

ChartZ Belatedly

@Neil Hmm, that's interesting. Dennis, Martin, Arnauld have ~2000 posts each, xnor has 1500, Luis has ~1800. Kevin's close to 3000, but you might have the most posts on the site :P

Damn, Doorknob, Digital Trauma and WW all have 60k+ rep, and less than 1000 posts

rak1507

how?!

Redwolf Programs

CMQ: What's your rep divided by posts?

rak1507

I guess things used to get upvoted a lot more on average maybe

Redwolf Programs

10:46 PM

Mine's 88.42

ChartZ Belatedly

@rak1507 Well, they have 4/3/2 posts with 100+ score (respectively)