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7:02 PM
CMC: My fiber provider offers to replace the remaining 4 months of my ¤27/month plan with 12 months of ¤34/month. After 4 months (if I stay on my current plan) or 12 months (if I accept the offer), I can continue at ¤33/month. Should I accept the offer?
 
why not just renew your ¤27/month plan lol
 
What's a ¤
 
any currency
 
@Pavel 1 of whatever currency unit is in use where "I" am.
@EriktheOutgolfer I cannot, it was an introductory offer.
 
@Adám so don't? it's obvious really
you'll be paying 36 more ¤ if you accept the plan, no?
 
7:06 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Correct!
 
CBigC: In Javascript, given an image (or just a 2D array of "colours"), what's the best way of finding the largest contiguous region of constant colour?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer The ¤34 plan is "Up to 100 Mb" instead of the current "Up to 50 Mb", but who needs such a fast connection anyway.
 
sorry, making it into a "CMC" won't attract me more, I know next to nothing about JS
@Adám lol that's changing the spec
 
@BetaDecay Define "contiguous".
 
A region of a constant colour. This may surround a region of different colour
 
7:09 PM
@Adám and yeah, I live with 12 Mbps and I don't have any serious complains about the speed...
 
I think you mean continuous, not contiguous
 
Yeah, probably
 
@EriktheOutgolfer No it isn't. I really don't care about the speed. "Up to 50 Mb" is more than plenty. They tried to convince me by telling me my current speed is only good for up to 5 devices, even though I had just told them we're only 4 in my family (and two are small kids).
 
I have no idea what my workplace uses as an ISP but I get at least 50mbps at pretty much all times
 
> NEW 1Tbps PLAN! Can you resist this opportunity? ¤100/mo for 24 months!
 
7:12 PM
I can get "average speed 362 Mbps" where I live, if I'm willing to pay.
@Pavel My workplace has 160 down, 40 up.
 
@Adám and...what is the highest Mbps the human eye has ever managed to read at an average website used for remote work?
I'm pretty sure it's way below 1
so, accounting for the CSS and stuff, it gets blown to some 9-10 Mbps
 
@Adám 362 Mbps? Damn, here I am with 1.9
 
(disclaimer: numbers not guaranteed to be accurate)
 
@BetaDecay I do live centrally in the capital of the world's number 5 country when it comes to science and technology.
 
@BetaDecay the good news is that there are probably fewer EM fields there ;-)
 
7:17 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Note that that is 362 average. I'm sure they'd get in trouble if that wasn't true. That plan is only called "350".
 
@Adám not those numbers, the numbers I've written above
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Oh :-)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer I live in a fusion reactor tho
2
 
@Adám I should check the ethernet speed and not wifi
But the ethernet cables are stored in a closet somewhere on the next floor
 
@Pavel Yeah, I run on copper at work, WiFi at home.
 
7:24 PM
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Q: Make an alphabeTrie

Chas BrownConsider the following alphabetically sorted list of words: balderdash ballet balloonfish balloonist ballot brooding broom All of the words start with b, and the first 5 start with bal. If we just look at the first 2 words: balderdash ballet we could write instead: balderdash +let wher...

 
SpeedTest shows 11.9/2.9 on my WiFi right now. Highest historical measure on my SpeedTest is 114.4/19.4 — must have been at work.
 
D:
I don't know what I'd do with that speed
 
@BetaDecay Which one? The home or work one?
 
Work. I can get 11.9 on 4G thankfully
 
@Adám Apparantly a lot of ISPs intentionally favor speed testing sites. Fast.com is apparantly more reliable since it uses Netflix's servers.
 
7:30 PM
@BetaDecay I'm not even sure what we are using it for. I think it is primarily for video conference calls, as our CDN and all outwards facing servers are in a off-site data centre.
 
@Pavel Fast.com also works on mobile. Speedtest.net makes you download their app
 
@Pavel Thanks. Their site looks more cleaner too. They score me at 9.4/3.1.
 
Here I have 90Mbps... At home I usually have about 190
 
And you know no ISP is going to give them priority since it's netflix
 
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Q: Maximum Hamming distance among a list of padded strings

ngmThe Hamming distance between two strings of equal length is the number of positions at which the corresponding characters are different. If the strings are not of equal length, the Hamming distance is not defined. Challenge Write a program or function that finds the largest Hamming distance fr...

 
8:10 PM
@HyperNeutrino because it seems like for the average sixty flight hours you need to get PPL $100*60hours = $6000 is very expensive investment
 
8:54 PM
CMC: Given an html entity, return the corresponding character.
 
@Adám entity in the format &#(code);?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer No, all valid ones!
 
@Adám good luck...
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Maybe better as Main?
 
@Adám hm, maybe sandbox
 
8:58 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer I was kind of joking, but now I just tried it. Down to 20 bytes in Dyalog APL.
 
@Adám using HTML libraries, right? :P
not all languages have this luxury...
 
__import__("html").parser.HTMLParser().unescape
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Nope, no libraries. Built-ins only. OK, I've got it down to 5 bytes, I doubt I can golf it any further.
@quartata What is that? Python?
 
yeah
 
I bet JS can do it fairly concisely. Maybe Japt can win?
Oh, probably PHP at 0 bytes or something.
Is it allowed to post a single challenge that is supposed to have two winners, as entries compete in two categories?
 
9:02 PM
@Adám Well no, PHP would just output the HTML entity
 
And HTML is obviously not a programming language…
 
@Adám actually not, especially if input is untrusted :(
 
@Downgoat Input will be a single valid entity only.
 
@Adám uh, are you sure it's not 3500⌶? because that would need RIDE to work
 
Whoa, I didn't realise how many entities there are.
@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah, that's the solution I had in mind. Without RIDE (works cross-platform), my code is ⎕A⎕WC'HTMLRenderer'⍞.
 
9:09 PM
@Adám languages with no HTML built-ins, you better go now ;)
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Maybe an interesting KC challenge?
Lots of ways to attack the problem…
 
@Adám uh, I'm pretty sure nobody is going to work on that big a dataset
 
@Adám DOM JS: `x=>(document.write(x),document.body.textContent)‘
 
You're probably right. It'll come down to who has the shortest API for an effective compression.
@Downgoat Nice.
 
uh, that last char isn't a backtick, it's like on the opposite side of the keyboard length-wise
 
9:15 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Not on all keyboards.
 
@Adám yeah, maybe Downgoat also has the char as the "grave"
"the char" = `
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Right, e.g. Danish has ` on shifted second key above '
 
@Adám but the keyboard needs to have ‘, not ' in this case
SE doesn't have smart quotes, unless some Mac feature does
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Oh, Downgoat used ´ instead of `. (I had read it as '.) Well that explains it. On many keyboards, that's just a matter of missing the Shift key.
 
9:32 PM
@Adám by the way, anything going on with Ranger?
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Nah, I gave up. It i would be unusable anyway.
 
@Adám yeah, only partial coverage of the possible arrays
 
@EriktheOutgolfer You mean even less than the subset most languages live with ;-)
 
@Adám yeah, and is [1, 2, 2, 1] really encoded as 1[1[-1[2]1]1]1? 1==1, so bah
 
It's strange for me to be in here this late
 
9:36 PM
Maybe the reason there are no well-known range-based languages is that is a terrible idea.
 
yesterday, by Erik the Outgolfer
lol I'm pretty sure a language based on ranges is alone esoteric enough
 
Yeah but it can be more esoteric ;)
 
@Mr.Xcoder and then here in Australia I have like 10 at home I think?
 
9:51 PM
Oh that sucks
 
10:14 PM
Holy crap, I thought that the entities covered only extended ASCII.
 
of course not
 
._.
 
do they even cover extended ASCII
also obviously they cover <, > etc
 
tbf, "extended ASCII" isn't something specific
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Doesn't need to be: that's more characters than a byte can handle.
@ASCII-only Obviously.
 
10:22 PM
@Zacharý really?
isn't extended ASCII nonstandard though
 
10:41 PM
@ASCII-only With the amount of characters it supports, I find it hard to believe that a character in any of those extended ascii's wouldn't be covered.
By extended ascii, I always mean Latin-1 supplement
 
Isn't UCS technically speaking an extended ASCII?
 
... every time I say extended ASCII this happens, when will I learn?!
 
If APL is controlled by RIDE, is it RIDdEn?
 
@Adám the connotations though...
 
11:07 PM
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@Adám ⍨
 
11:28 PM
Does Zachary work for dyalog too, or have we found the one mysterious person who uses apl but doesn't work for them? /s
 
@Mayube No, I don't work for Dyalog.
 
@Mayube Even with /s, that's a pretty strange comment.
 
:O we found him fiy
I was just joking about the fact that very few people in the modern world use apl
Just a bit of observational humour, I guess :P
 
@Mayube I'm sure most people who use Dyalog don't work for them, since otherwise Dyalog would pretty much lose its point
> 250 employees, 10 physical clients
 
@Mayube Relatively few, but those that do are not about to switch to something else. While I am not allowed to mention our biggest customers, Volvo Penta, SimCorp, and the European Commission come to mind…
 
11:40 PM
> I am not allowed to [promote my company in one of the best ways possible, that is, by mentioning its] biggest customers
:/
 
I'm not the dedicated APL user that Adám is, I just constantly switch between APL, D, JS, and Python.
 
@EriktheOutgolfer Right. I guess that the two biggest ones fear that their competitors (they rank number 1 and number 3 worldwide in their respective fields) will pick up a hint to their success. The one that ranks number 1 educates its own future APLers, but the one that ranks number 3 hopes that our student competition will bring forth APL neophytes, and so they ██████ the competition by ███████ the ████ ██████.
@Zacharý I'm actually not much of a user. I've never written a full scale application in APL!
 
11:55 PM
@Adám "the biggest ones fear that their competitors will pick up a hint to their success" sounds very ad-y lol
 
I completely forgot about the competition lol
 
@EriktheOutgolfer My private guess. Why else would they hide the fact that they use APL?
 
@Adám
 
@Adám maybe because many would say that they're using junk?
APL is quite infamous AFAICT...
 
@EriktheOutgolfer flash back to that one comment
Would APL have been more successful if BASIC was never a thing?
 
11:58 PM
@EriktheOutgolfer Yeah, @Zacharý pointed out when one of SimCorp's competitors tried that. Didn't go well for the competitor…
 
@Adám —"hey, jerk, you're using APL and you think you're anything? hahahahaha" —"let's see your performance a bit..."
 
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