The Nineteenth Byte

dzaima

8:00 PM

@HelkaHomba SOGL, 2 bytes: Δ*. .Δ* is required on online because of a bug (. = push input number)

user165474

okey yey time to transition to sympy

user165474

anyfix on my machine will be broken for the next few days lol

MD XF

Sympy?

What the heck, can anyone else see "dclxvi. ha." in the readme?

user165474

Symbolic mathematics, allows for arbitrary precision

user165474

because 0.1 + 0.2 != 0.3

MD XF

8:05 PM

OMG THAT'S CREEPY LOL

user165474

@MDXF yes

MD XF

This is what I put in the README 666. ha.

And something turned it into dclxvi

user165474

why did 666 get changed o.o

user165474

oh wait

MD XF

which is apparently a satan thing, look it up

user165474

8:06 PM

nero = 666

MD XF

Yeah it's roman numerals for 666

holy sh*t that's creepy. Should I contact GitHub or post a viral question on StackOverflow?

caird coinheringaahing

Viral post, duh

user165474

@MDXF viral post to repbait

MD XF

Will do, then

user165474

~~I'll make sure to downvote~~ just make sure it's ontopic

MD XF

8:11 PM

I won't tag it git, if that's what you mean :P

user165474

I don't know exactly what is on-topic on SO honestly :P

user165474

I just hope my questions are on-topic

user165474

also 0/10 my question has +1/-0, no answers, and ended up on Page 2 after like 4 minutes ಠ_ಠ SO is too active

caird coinheringaahing

CMC (Cubically Im looking at you): split a string on new lines

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing Cubically can't take input yet

user165474

8:13 PM

lambda x:x.split('\n')

caird coinheringaahing

So hardcode it

Cubular: 1 byte (ú)

user165474

ಠ_ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

Yep. My in development language has that builtin

user165474

ಠ_ಠ I forgot to implement split in my language

caird coinheringaahing

you use that emoticon too much

user165474

8:15 PM

TacoScript makes it too easy lol

caird coinheringaahing

what do you think of this as a challenge: using all bytes in your language's code page/single byte characters, output the largest number you can, without erroring.

If you like it, dibs.

user165474

like you have to use every single character?

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino yeah

MD XF

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Q: GitHub satanically messing with my README

My GitHub repo here has nothing but a readme in it. In this readme, locally I wrote this: Factoids: - There are about six different ways to do everything in Forked. - There are actually six different ways to enter loops. - There are six directionals and six I/O commands. - 666. ha. Emphasi...

user165474

hm. without shoving them into comments?

caird coinheringaahing

8:19 PM

Duh

So Python would have to use all of ascii.

user165474

but # is comment

user165474

oh wait strings

user165474

only once, or as many times as I want?

caird coinheringaahing

Im thinking about preventing duplicate characters but I'm not sure

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing that would make it VERY difficult for some languages because then they can't close strings

caird coinheringaahing

8:24 PM

Yeah I know. But it could be that you can use 1 character twice?

Arjun

Is there any Kivy expert here?

I need help!

It isn't anything much sophisticated.

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino would it be tagged restricted-source?

I just noticed that I have a starred message on there. Huh...

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing I wouldn't recommend that, though then it would be too easy (99999999999999999999....999999999999).

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing Probably.

MD XF

Darn, turns out GitHub is not operated by Satan. It turns all numbers at the start of unordered lists into Roman Numerals :(

user165474

8:29 PM

oh :(

user165474

"less devil" 10/10

Arjun

What does 10/10 actually mean?

I have seen you use it many times

MD XF

10 points out of a possible 10

Basically, 100% or "I score you 10/10"

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino repeat only once?

that could let people close strings

Arjun

@MDXF Oh, I thought it meant something more sophisticated

MD XF

8:32 PM

Nope lol

caird coinheringaahing

@Arjun I'll let you in on a secret: the / isn't actually a backslash

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing that might work; i'd sandbox it at this point probably

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing ~~yes it actually is~~ it's a forward slash

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing why would arjun think it's a backslash?

caird coinheringaahing

@HyperNeutrino on mobile now: can't really use the sandbox

user165474

8:33 PM

ah ok

user165474

also 0/10 please use replies not mentions lol

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino Took me so long to finally start doing that lol

user165474

@MDXF caret reply made it easy. i was too lazy previously

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Golfing a Busy Turing Machine code-golf turing-machine busy-beaver For the sandbox This question is really hard, and the solution is restricted to one "language" – a 1-tape, 2-symbol Turing Machine. So I'm not sure if it belongs on PPCG. I've written up a basic description below, but can go in...

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino ugh I hate caret reply

caird coinheringaahing

8:34 PM

@MDXF actually it's a pipe, leaning away from itself

MD XF

It's nice, but if someone sends a message before you're done it screws it up

@cairdcoinheringaahing umm. ok

user165474

@MDXF no it doesn't. ATaco fixed that after I mentioned it to him like a month ago

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing but you still didn't use replies ಠ_ಠ

@HyperNeutrino oh, really? Cool!

caird coinheringaahing

@NewSandboxedPosts you just interrupted a conversation between golfers. Go sit in the corner.

MD XF

That explains why I was so confused :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing ಠ/1ಠ why would you not reply to sandbox

caird coinheringaahing

8:37 PM

??????????????? brain explodes from emoji overload

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing a) ಠ is not an emoji. do not confuse the power of ಠ with the wimpiness of emojis. b) there were only two for heaven's sake ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ_ಠ

caird coinheringaahing

😀/1😀

MD XF

Now that was an emoji, probably, because I don't have enough Unicode to render it.

totallyhuman

😂

caird coinheringaahing

It was the combining with numbers that confused me

user165474

8:38 PM

emoji != emoticon

caird coinheringaahing

🙃

Arjun

How do I post multiline code?

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing ಠ == 0 == o

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino emoji != emಠticಠn

user165474

@Arjun same way you'd do it on main

user165474

8:39 PM

4-spaces

caird coinheringaahing

🤢

user165474

Or Ctrl-K turns the whole thing into code

totallyhuman

@Arjun 4 spaces or Ctrl+K

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing what even is that?

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing enಠugh emojis

user165474

8:39 PM

@totallyhuman ninja'd

caird coinheringaahing

@MDXF you missed an o

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing nಠ I didn't

user165474

@cairdcoinheringaahing that's the point, he's saying "enough"

Arjun

@HyperNeutrino How to enter newline. If I press Enter, the message is sent.

user165474

@Arjun shift-enter

totallyhuman

8:40 PM

😡

MD XF

@totallyhuman enಠugh emojis! Mಠst peಠple can't see them

user165474

please stop sending so many emojis/extended unicode characters

MD XF

ninja'd

caird coinheringaahing

:( I can't type <weird o> on mobile

totallyhuman

Heh

MD XF

8:40 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing BORK ALERT 🚨 BORK ALERT 🚨 BORK ALERT I feel very sorry for you

caird coinheringaahing

✅ done

user165474

@MDXF no I CV'd you as a dupe of mine because yours is a subset of mine

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino ಠ_ಠ

totallyhuman

😈 more emoji JK, JK, don't ban me

MD XF

Ugh my roommate got a spidget finner and it's so freaking annoying whirrrrr-stop whirrrrr-stop whirrrrr-stop

totallyhuman

8:42 PM

o0 why does everyone hate them

user165474

@totallyhuman actually though stop, i might flag you if you don't stop and i don't feel nice

MD XF

> whirrr-stop whirrrr-stop whirrrrr-stop

totallyhuman

@HyperNeutrino I wasn't talking about emoji :P

user165474

@totallyhuman I know you weren't, but I didn't reply to that message

caird coinheringaahing

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mobile QWERTY

user165474

8:43 PM

>.<

MD XF

Please nಠ

totallyhuman

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New Main Posts

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Q: Help me sort out my desktop windows!

It's really frustrating when I'm working and I have a ton of windows open that are completely or partially hidden behind other windows. To make things worse, I'm still using two 1024x768 monitors. Your task is to take a list of coordinates that designate the area, in pixels, on a screen, that a ...

code-golf number geometry

totallyhuman

inb4 delet

MD XF

Glad I'm spending my last day on TNB spamming emoticons >.<

user165474

8:44 PM

can everyone just calm down with the weird characters please? it's not adding anything to this conversation... oh wait there was never an on-topic conversation in the first place

caird coinheringaahing

I think you mean "Płèàßé ńœ"

and fine

user165474

@MDXF lol oh yeah glad you had a good time here and maybe we might see you around sometime yay

totallyhuman

>.> Too much salt I'm leaving

user165474

au revoir

MD XF

lol

I'm still debating whether or not I'm going to put in the effort to use TNB on my phone

caird coinheringaahing

8:44 PM

@MDXF TNB Bye Bye Party?

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing Is that a thing :P

caird coinheringaahing

Everything starts somewhere...

totallyhuman

NVM I'm back <.<

user165474

@totallyhuman having trouble staying away from PPCG?

MD XF

ಠ_ಠ I really need help finding Cubically algorithms if anyone wants to

user165474

8:47 PM

(PPCG/SE/TNB)

totallyhuman

@HyperNeutrino always

user165474

@MDXF Do you have cube rotations?

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino What do you mean?

user165474

@totallyhuman welcome to my ~~life~~

user165474

@MDXF like, rotate the entire cube, not just a layer

Arjun

8:47 PM

I was thinking of a new challenge: Where you have to write grammatically proper code with least amount of dependent code. Nothing will be allowed after the grammatically-proper-code-part. Extra points for proper punctuation and capitalization. Tie breaker will be popularity. Something like this:

def noop x = nil; end
alias a noop
alias happy noop
alias new noop
alias year! noop
def Have x
p Time.new.year
end

Have a happy new year!

[Code by Doorknob](https://codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/17005/produce-the-number-2014-without-any-numbers-in-your-source-code/17010#17010)

totallyhuman

Lowercase letters usually indicate cube rotations

user165474

@Arjun formatting does not work in multiline messages, just send as separate messages

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino No, like I said that would be incredibly difficult and I don't want to have 15 bugs in the interpreter when I stop working on it

user165474

@totallyhuman no lowercase means double-layer rotations

caird coinheringaahing

@arjun someone's already posted that I thinl

user165474

8:48 PM

@MDXF do you at least have slices

Mendeleev

@Arjun -1 No objective winning criteria

caird coinheringaahing

99

Q: Why I am leaving Code Golf

The contents of this post are solicited opinion that I have been asked by a Code Golf moderator to share with you. I understand "If you don't like it, then GEETTT OOUUTT" applies here, so I have already submitted my account for deletion. I joined Code Golf because the challenge of fulfilling ...

discussion

@MdXf just do this

MD XF

@HyperNeutrino ...slices? c'mon, I taught myself cubing, I don't know any technical terms

caird coinheringaahing

make something up

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing Nah nobody would care :P

caird coinheringaahing

8:49 PM

that got 99 upvotes

Christopher

@MDXF if you leave just give me your rep

MD XF

> The contents of this post are solicited opinion that I have been asked by a Code Golf moderator to share with you. I understand "If you don't like it, then GEETTT OOUUTT" applies here, so I have already submitted my account for deletion.

caird coinheringaahing

I've been here longer, I deserve the rep

Christopher

DIBS on his rep

caird coinheringaahing

DIBS ON HIS REP

Christopher

8:50 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing that sucks dibs trumps all

MD XF

I'm the least deserving of my rep lol. Segfaults, sighs

caird coinheringaahing

Caps always wind

user165474

slices are middle turns

Christopher

@cairdcoinheringaahing Caps always use more wind.

Mendeleev

DIBS ON THE REP

user165474

8:51 PM

@MDXF lol my second most upvoted answer is literally date -d100day

caird coinheringaahing

@MDXF did I forget to mention, I've just been elected a mod in a snap election. They just haven't given me the diamond yet

totallyhuman

Je veux rep

Mendeleev

non

MD XF

Okay I am not giving my rep free, I'm auctioning it using bounties for amazing answers :P

caird coinheringaahing

Ich will das rep!

user165474

8:52 PM

I've been here longer than all of you...

MD XF

Heh nice job

totallyhuman

Oui tu ne sais pas quelle je veux

Mendeleev

J'ai besoin du rep

MD XF

fomd pm fji trp

caird coinheringaahing

Tous des eux ont besion de rep

Arjun

8:53 PM

@Mendeleev I will try to come up with a score-calculating formula with certain weightage to proper punctuation and proper capitalization.

Christopher

@MDXF I have a gud answer worthy of 500 rep

Mendeleev

@Arjun That would work

MD XF

@Christopher pls link and I'll determine :P

Christopher

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A: Turing complete language interpreter code golf

x86 assembly (Intel syntax/MASM)-Brainfuck 2547 bytes. Being honest here this can be golfed a good amount. I have golfed a large amount of bytes off but variable can still be golfed. However trying to golf the different names is a pain but would save only a small amount of bytes. This won't win...

Mendeleev

Мне нужна репутация

caird coinheringaahing

8:54 PM

@MDXF you like self development of languages, give it to a new, unrecognised language answer

MD XF

@Christopher Ehh... I'll spare an upvote. It doesn't have an explanation

Nor is it super-golfed

Christopher

Golfing assembly is hard

MD XF

I know

So is explaining assembly. Still :P

Arjun

तो, क्या आपको लगता है कि मेरी चुनौती सफल होगी? (Hindi)

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing Did I catch the "hint hint Add++" in there?

Christopher

8:55 PM

Actually this is a cool one codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/111278/…

caird coinheringaahing

0

A: Number of values between input and next highest square

Add++, 22 bytes +? _ ^.5 +1 ^2 -1 -G O Try it online! Do you want to know how it works? Well, fear not! I'm here to educate you! +? Add the input to x (the accumulator) _ Store the input in the input list ^.5 Square root +1 Add 1 ^2 Square -1 Subtract 1 -G Subtract the input O ...

Christopher

not bounty worthy but cool

caird coinheringaahing

cough cough

totallyhuman

@Arjun gah I can understand this, gimme a second

MD XF

"Do you want to know how it works? Well, fear not! I'm here to educate you!" ಠ_ಠ

totallyhuman

8:56 PM

"So, do you guys think my challenge will be good?"

MD XF

@totallyhuman I can understand it too!

Arjun

@totallyhuman Second's up.

totallyhuman

:P

@MDXF I knows Hindi :3

MD XF

@totallyhuman s/I/Google\ Translate

totallyhuman

>.> You think I'm lying

MD XF

8:58 PM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

caird coinheringaahing

@MdXF yep. The best way to begin an explanation

MD XF

Lol it's one way to do it I guess

totallyhuman

<.< I'm Indian, why would I not know Hindi

caird coinheringaahing

How would you do it?

Arjun

@totallyhuman फिर, इसका अनुवाद करें

MD XF

9:00 PM

CMC code-golf Output your gender. You're agreeing to be referred to as whatever the output is for the rest of your PPCG life.

caird coinheringaahing

@totallyhuman I know 10~ Indians in my school, none of them know Hindi

@MDXF True (male)

totallyhuman

@cairdcoinheringaahing true there's lots of languages spoken in India

But I spent 7 years learning it so...

MD XF

@cairdcoinheringaahing Explanation: :P

caird coinheringaahing

@MDXF added

totallyhuman

@Arjun then, understand this

Or close enough

It might've meant translate..? I it's been a while

Arjun

9:02 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing Actually, Indians are everywhere. There's so many of us. Every seventh person is an Indian. :P

caird coinheringaahing

@MDXF where's the flair, the extravagance?

MD XF

Explanation != flair/extravagance

caird coinheringaahing

@Arjun and every other 7th is Chinese

Arjun

@totallyhuman True. (It's translate)

@cairdcoinheringaahing I was just going to say that.

caird coinheringaahing

@MDXF exactly

Arjun

9:03 PM

@cairdcoinheringaahing India will surpass China by 2026

MD XF

No I mean you're not supposed to introduce an explanation with flair or extravagance. You're just supposed to educate the reader about your language

caird coinheringaahing

you should explain your language with pride, flair and more pride

Arjun

Besides, China is getting old. India is getting young.

totallyhuman

>.> I need people to speak languages I know to practise

caird coinheringaahing

@Arjun they got rid of the 1 baby rule tho

@totallyhuman print("How about this?")

totallyhuman

9:05 PM

Hard to come by people who speak Hindi in the US though

caird coinheringaahing

What about Python or Java? They're languages too

Arjun

@totallyhuman Most of those who go there never come back....

caird coinheringaahing

gtg bye!

Arjun

Bye

totallyhuman

@Arjun pls no I have no family here

MD XF

9:08 PM

No way does this have 40 views and 11 votes

totallyhuman

I came here only for my education

Arjun

@totallyhuman So you are really an Indian?

totallyhuman

Yup

Arjun

From which State?

totallyhuman

Andhra Pradesh

Although now it's Telangana but whatever >.>

Stupid politics

Arjun

9:11 PM

Ah, that's why you don't know Hindi very well. There's so many languages in India!

Did you watch today's match?

totallyhuman

Oh yeah

;-;

Arjun

So saddening

Jadeja should have sacrificed his wicket. Pandya was looking good. He could have at least got his hundered.

Arjun

9:37 PM

Yay! @Adám 's Here!

Adám

@Arjun ?

Phoenix

o/

Downgoat

Question: since the 'popular', browsers now all support ES6, can we just write "JavaScript" in our answers

Phoenix

Sure

Isn't there an ES7 already?

Arjun

@Adám I just wanted to do something. The room was passive for a long time. I saw your avatar flying on the web page, so thought of welcoming you. :)

Adám

9:40 PM

@Arjun Namaste.

Arjun

@Phoenix Yes, with minor upgrades.

Phoenix

@Adám What does that mean?

Adám

@Phoenix It is a common greeting in India.

Arjun

@Adám Namaste. :)

Phoenix

Ah.

Adám

9:41 PM

OK. So we're doing one more CMC before bedtime?

Phoenix

Apparently "Hello" is classified as a noun.

@Adám Is there one, or should we think of one?

Adám

@Phoenix I'm trying to think of one.

Arjun

@Adám It's a common greeting only in some states of India. India has many languages. I know only Hindi, because I am a North Indian.

Adám

@Arjun Where are you from? (My knowledge of Indian geography is somewhat limited.)

CMC: Return the number of (virtual) processors.

Phoenix

CMC: Given ints a, b, c, solve for d in the following equation: c=(a+b)%d, given abcd are positive and a, b, c are less than d.

@Adám What does that mean?

Cores?

Arjun

9:46 PM

@Adám I am from Uttar Pradesh, but I reside temporarily in Madhya Pradesh because my father does a transferable job. We are going to settle in UP in about a month cuz my father's retiring.

Adám

@Phoenix A dual-core machine will usually report 4.

Phoenix

Because hyperthreading or something else?

Adám

@Phoenix Hyper-threading may double that.

@Phoenix Yeah, nothing fancy required here. Just return a number saying how many processors there appears to be.

Phoenix

TBH doesn't seem all that interesting.

Adám

@Arjun Where abouts in UP? I stayed in Mussoorie for a few days, before going to HP (Kulu valley) where we lived for a couple of months

@Phoenix Sorry about that. But, how short code can get that number?

Phoenix

9:49 PM

Hmm, something something pipe dxdiag into grep.

Adám

@Phoenix Well, there may be multiple ways to get it. code-golf Wanna know the APL answer?

Arjun

CMC: Given a PPCG abbreviation, expand it with the help of this question's answer : codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12537/…

Phoenix

Sure

Adám

@Phoenix APL, 6 bytes: 1111⌶⍬

Phoenix

APL seems to have a lot of builtins for things that make no sense.

Arjun

9:51 PM

@Adám Kannauj.

trichoplax

A meta post about abbreviations?? No need to reinvent the we'll...

Phoenix

You only have so many symbols you can fit on a keyboard layout

Arjun

@Adám You came to India! Wow!

Adám

@Arjun VTC as unclear. What exactly should we expand to? Up to the first punctuation after the intial colon?

@Phoenix Oh yeah? Challenge me! I've got like 250 so far. It isn't even beginning to fill up.

Phoenix

@Adám What are ⌶⍬ doing?

Adám

9:54 PM

@Arjun Eh, more than 1 out of every 7 people have been to India. But yeah, I liked it alot. people were so helpful.

Arjun

@Adám Forget it! No one's gonna attempt it anyway :P

Phoenix

@Adám Is that including the people who live there?

LegionMammal978

I like how this got me 205 rep

Phoenix

There's an InverseFunction builtin. Obviously.

Adám

@Phoenix ⌶ calls system related functions (I-beam; a pun on IBM). 1111 is parallel processors (get it? Four parallel lines). Giving it a numeric argument tell APL to use that many threads, giving it an empty vector argument (⍬) tells it to report how many exist.

Phoenix

9:56 PM

That would have saved me bytes >_<

Adám

@Phoenix Yes. Although it also seems that Israel's population is twice what's reported, as it seems that at any given time, half of their citizens are on vacation in India.

Phoenix

@Adám So, the 1111 is a single builtin symbol, as it was being used there?

Arjun

@Adám I wish everyone in the country was like that.

Definitely, not the case :P

LegionMammal978

So where did this whole thing about India and Israel come from?

Arjun

Israel?

LegionMammal978

9:59 PM

See @Adám's latest message

Adám

@Phoenix Not really. ⌶ is an operator (a higher order function) which gives a function as result. Which function it gives, depends on its operand (in this case the integer 1111). Then that derived function is called on ⍬.

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