The Nineteenth Byte

Phoenix

4:02 AM

226 views in 2 days? Feelsbadman

Destructible Lemon

they kicked me ;_;

Phoenix

Who did?

Destructible Lemon

from the minecraft ;_; @Mendeleev wai

Mendeleev

Sorry was accident

Destructible Lemon

I'm not the only one that hates security questions right?

Phoenix

4:13 AM

You are not.

ASCII-only

@MDXF Fixed but too lazy to check if competing or not

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Is it an open question? code-golf Challenge Given a positive integer, determine whether that number represents an open question on our website. Scoring This is code-golf, so the shortest answer in each language wins.

Phoenix

@ASCII-only Can you add the builtin being described to the output of the explanation generator? e.g. '├Ｇ: Hollow Polygon'

MD XF

@ASCII-only Heh nice job. +1

ASCII-only

@Phoenix hmm ok

MD XF

4:22 AM

Btw why is your GitHub somebody1234? :P

Phoenix

Yeah, the explanation is nice but hard to follow right now.

Mendeleev

SomeBODY once told me...

ASCII-only

@MDXF Just look at my first SE username

MD XF

@ASCII-only How do I check that?

ASCII-only

@MDXF parent user -> network profile

MD XF

4:28 AM

Oh :P still... why?

Destructible Lemon

so anyway @Mendeleev I can't play with you now

Mendeleev

Sure

it's fine

the game is over anyway :)

MD XF

Anyone interested in helping with Cubically? I need help finding some algorithms

ASCII-only

@MDXF Well it started back in the old days when I made my AdventureQuest account (it wasn't exactly somebody back then though)

MD XF

Yeah?

ASCII-only

4:37 AM

@MDXF Then it became somebody1234 for pretty much everything else

Phoenix

AdventureQuest seems like the kind of terrible name I'd give to a project directory when I haven't thought of an actual name yet.

Destructible Lemon

adventure quest was a single player game where you couldn't play if too many people were online

like wth

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Done, just have to wait for Dennis to pull now

Phoenix

Neat

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon The walking animation was terrible + load times were insanely high

MD XF

4:39 AM

@ASCII-only ...ok

Phoenix

Dammit I need to know what this game is now.

MD XF

slightly less weird than my name though

Destructible Lemon

I don't remember that game featuring walking

Phoenix

Even if it does sound terrible.

Destructible Lemon

are you thinking of adventure quest worlds?

the classes in that game are insanely unbalanced

@Phoenix the guys who made it made a bunch of similar games

ASCII-only

4:40 AM

@DestructibleLemon Yeah, probably my bad experiences from AQW/MechQuest

Phoenix

> On July 14, 2010, the server cap has been removed permanently.

Destructible Lemon

Healer was super op class

Phoenix

How long ago did you play this game..?

Destructible Lemon

like the only reason to play anything else is that you buy a new class to try and diversify or something

MD XF

While we're on the topic of old games, has anyone else here played Omega-RPG?

This dates back to DOS

Destructible Lemon

4:41 AM

@Phoenix a while ago

I mean after aqw no real reason to play the original

Phoenix

Should I bother trying out this game. (or AQW for that matter)

Destructible Lemon

the main thing I remember about mechquest was that the best weapons were some pizza joke items

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Never

Phoenix

Ok

Destructible Lemon

I mean there were merits to club penguin

in that it was just club penguin

ASCII-only

4:43 AM

@DestructibleLemon Oh yes they were >_> also there was this broken event where I got 15k per mission = get rich easily

Destructible Lemon

but aqw doesn't have that

@ASCII-only I kinda just got bored after hitting that cap

Phoenix

I had fun in Club Penguin

Some of the minigames were excellent.

Destructible Lemon

tru

Phoenix

I sunk an embarrassing amount of time into ninjitsu (or whatever it was called)

Mendeleev

I never played club penguin ;-;

Phoenix

4:44 AM

RIP

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix THAT MASTER WAS A CHEATING BASTARD

Phoenix

:38196625 That's the name of a Lego thing

Destructible Lemon

ps I'm inspired to make a ninjitsu koth

Mendeleev

I just realized

Phoenix

They made a bootlegged Club Penguin you can play

Fully featured.

Destructible Lemon

4:45 AM

@Phoenix even being unable to buy igloos without paying money?

Mendeleev

I have a book of funny George W. Bush quotes. Should I post some?

Destructible Lemon

I swear club penguin was a giant money farm

Phoenix

@DestructibleLemon I think everyone just gets free unlimited money in it.

Destructible Lemon

my brother actually bought club penguin membership

like how embarrassing is that?

Phoenix

So did I >_>

I was 8, I think?

ASCII-only

4:46 AM

@DestructibleLemon Yes it is >_> click pay money to access this bonus feature pls click somewhere else pls pay

Destructible Lemon

nah I have a thing about spending money

my brother was older than me at the time and I thought it was dumb

Phoenix

Still, it was only a month, I still managed to have fun.

ASCII-only

mfw my best answer is a Puzzling answer

Destructible Lemon

also puffles ran away if you didn't come back often enough

MD XF

@ASCII-only I noticed that on your StackExchange profile >.<

Destructible Lemon

4:47 AM

that was annoying

Phoenix

Really? I had no clue!

Poor 8-year-old me was traumatized by my puffle's disappearance!

Destructible Lemon

also there was an insane amount of videos about rockhopper's club penguin account

@Phoenix I actual want a link because this appears to be difficult to search on my own

Phoenix

I have also discovered this just now.

Destructible Lemon

in that game my username was like r6f4 or something because I was really mad about all the usernames being taken

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also you couldn't type numbers in chat so that made it difficult to say my username

ASCII-only

I wonder why games like those were even that successful

Destructible Lemon

4:53 AM

because kids love those kinds of games

Phoenix

speedycppshq.com/cppslist

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon badly made ones? :P

Phoenix

List of known Club Penguin private servers

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only the mmos with the money spending

Mendeleev

I thought that link was about C++

Destructible Lemon

4:55 AM

^

except that it was relating to something I posted so I actually knew it wasn't

Phoenix

/r/bannedfromclubpenguin has that link in its sidebar

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev And you'd find Dennis' totient function at the top of the page

Destructible Lemon

I got banned from a game once for making a guild with a nonce word name

Mendeleev

Totient?

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev totient(n) = primes under n

Mendeleev

4:58 AM

Right

Destructible Lemon

also club penguin taught kids class stratification with its paid servers

ok there are no people on this server but there is ice fishing so its worth it

ASCII-only

5:16 AM

@DestructibleLemon haha

Phoenix

I don't expect many of the servers to be populated.

Destructible Lemon

cpps.io

Phoenix

I never really Club Penguin'd for the multiplayer aspect anyway.

Destructible Lemon

learning how to catch the big fish is a rite of passage

ais523

I actually don't know anything about that game, other than that getting banned from it is a meme

Destructible Lemon

5:16 AM

also the community was kind of nice so there was that

ais523

I assume it's aimed at children, though

Phoenix

It's like MLP, to a lesser extent.

ASCII-only

CMC: Find an ascii-art challenge for me to do in Charcoal

Phoenix

Did you do Output a Pretty Box

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Pls link

Phoenix

5:22 AM

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Q: Output a pretty box

Your challenge is to exactly output the following box: .................................................. .................................................. .. .. .. .. .. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++...

@DestructibleLemon do you remember how to access the secret agent thing?

Leaky Nun

How old is Charcoal?

ASCII-only

@LeakyNun Like 9 months

Phoenix

@ASCII-only I don't think you have.

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Yeah I haven't done it :P

Phoenix

It would probably be easy, make a couple of squares.

Wheat Wizard

5:29 AM

@ConorO'Brien What challenge?

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix no

Phoenix

Oh well.

I managed to softlock CP by talking to the Card-jitsu sensei

workplace.se has some pretty funny entries in their top voted questions: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions?sort=votes

ASCII-only

This is so ungolfy :( also too lazy to finish (for this)

Phoenix

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Q: Can I talk to my rubber duck at work?

I have noticed I have had great success using another co-worker as a metaphorical rubber duck (sometimes intentionally, sometimes unintentionally). It improves my productivity vastly. However, I know that it probably distracts others when I am using them in that way. That's why I want to buy a l...

professionalism unprofessional-behavior behavior

@ASCII-only You should do the pretty box thing. It seems like a very interesting question.

ASCII-only

@Phoenix :| 28 bytes

Phoenix

5:43 AM

That's not terrible.

Not 1st place, but not bad at all.

ASCII-only

I need a function returning "01122110"[n] for input number n`

Phoenix

Beats almost everything, in fact.

ASCII-only

Numbers can be swapped around

@Phoenix Still behind 4 non-ASCII-art oriented languages

user165474

@ASCII-only: I edited to reflect upon the actual size of the box and added some clarification.

Conor O'Brien

@WheatWizard your language design one

Phoenix

5:51 AM

@ASCII-only Well, hopefully you have some ideas for improving Charcoal, now.

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Not really it's just I was using the really naive approach :P

And I don't mind losing to languages with matrix support for the simpler challenges

Phoenix

Would adding matrix support be reasonable?

ASCII-only

CMC: Return [a, b, b, c, c, b, b, a][n % 8] where a, b, and c are each a different one of 0, 1 and 2

Phoenix

Wut

ASCII-only

@Phoenix I guess? Not that ASCII-art oriented but I already have parts of the Wolfram Language in Charcoal so why not I guess :P

@Phoenix Halp is it too confusing

Phoenix

5:54 AM

Yeah, I have no idea what that CMC is.

Destructible Lemon

@Phoenix python list item selction

takes 4 args: constructs a list as shown, then picks one of the values based on the last value

Phoenix

Wolfram Language actually has subpar matrix support compared to e.g. matlab. Yeah, there's dot product and such, but there's no real concept of a matrix, it's just a rectangular array.

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon Wait no

Phoenix

@ASCII-only you should post anyway

user165474

>.< I was trying to fix a regex bug in my language but the error was actually because I accidentally typed != instead of == ಠ_ಠ

Phoenix

5:56 AM

._,

user165474

which exposed the actual regex bug ._.

ASCII-only

Well just this

13 mins ago, by ASCII-only

I need a function returning "01122110"[n] for input number n`

Phoenix

Oh k

user165474

@ASCII-only Specific language?

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino this is incredibly relatable

user165474

5:58 AM

lol yes

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino Just need an algorithm

user165474

I was trying to specify a while-loop condition but then I accidentally specified a termination condition ಠ_ಠ

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino This is like me introducing an off-by-one error in Actually

user165474

lol

user165474

Can we assume that n < 8 (for 0-indexing)?

ASCII-only

5:59 AM

@HyperNeutrino Yes

user165474

so 0 <= n < 8

Phoenix

lambda n:[y for x in[range(n+1),range(0,n+1,-1)]for y in x]

Oh wait no

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Isn't this like way longer than naive

Phoenix

That approach is probably crap anyway.

@ASCII-only Yes.

user165474

lambda n:sum(map(int,bin(min(n,8-n))[2:]))

user165474

6:02 AM

Still longer than naive but that's the approach I had in mind

user165474

Jelly, 6 bytes:

user165474

7_«µBS

Phoenix

Proposed Psuedocode (for a golflang): range, duplicate, sort, palindromize

@HyperNeutrino How does it work?

ASCII-only

eh whatever here

Phoenix

^-^

Leaky Nun

6:06 AM

lambda n:2-abs(n-4)//2-abs(n-4)%2

user165474

7_«µBS  Main Link, argument is `z`
7_      Evaluate `7 - z`
  «     Take the minimum of that and `z` itself
    µ    Start a new monadic chain (to prevent the `B` atom from affecting the minimum)
    B   Binary digits
     S  Sum

Phoenix

@ASCII-only What's -sl for?

user165474

@LeakyNun eh WHAT? nice :o

ASCII-only

@Phoenix To show the length

user165474

oh wait I see the n//2+n%2 trick, right, sum(map(int,bin(x)[2:])) was nowhere near that :P

Phoenix

6:08 AM

Ah

Destructible Lemon

what do about my koth to make it more popular? do you think a bounty would help?

user165474

@Phoenix I know I'm late, but here, have a 20-byte Anyfix solution: " "ɠ#×@ɦ€¡"\t"®ʂ»»Y'

user165474

:P

Phoenix

Yeah, I should post to main

It's late

I'll do it tommorow

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino do you use the anyfix feature to golf many bytes?

user165474

6:12 AM

@DestructibleLemon It usually doesn't actually end up saving any bytes :P

user165474

Also thanks for the name idea :D :P

Destructible Lemon

did I say that?

also you should add anyfix to the esolang wiki; both the lang and the -fix

user165474

I think so

user165474

Right, I should do that.

Destructible Lemon

tbh the -fix has a better effort to benefit ratio probably or something

user165474

6:15 AM

uh halp what does 9338205183>\#+:#*9-#\_$.@ evaluate to in Befunge

Phoenix

@HyperNeutrino idk, TryItOnline?

user165474

too lazy

user165474

eh nvm got it

Phoenix

168232737

user165474

but the captcha changed on me >.< because the output contained a trailing space so I had to re-eval

ASCII-only

6:19 AM

Yay I guess?

@Phoenix Done.

Phoenix

Ty

ASCII-only

This doesn't seem that hard for Charcoal but I don't want to do it :P

user165474

suggestions?

Destructible Lemon

does anyone have an unpopular koth in python I can answer in return for participating in my challenge?

Phoenix

6:39 AM

@ASCII-only that statement basically sums up everything I've ever (not) done life.

s/for charcoal//

user165474

s/(s\/[^\/]+\/\//)/$1i

Mendeleev

6:57 AM

Should I post some of the Gorge W. Bush quotes out of the book I have?

Phoenix

> Gorge

Mendeleev

George**

user165474

7:32 AM

lol it's 3:30 for me here I have no idea why I'm not tired

Destructible Lemon

ehhh it's kind of outplayed

especially when we have covfefe and Sad! now

Mendeleev

Right

Phoenix

Someone should make a compilation of Trump quotes and publish it.

Mendeleev

There's always "Well, I think if you say you're going to do something and don't do it, that's trustworthiness." - George W. Bush, Aug. 30, 2000

"It's clearly a budget. It's got lots of numbers in it."

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"I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully"

Destructible Lemon

Bushisms are old now

Mendeleev

7:35 AM

Yeah I know

The book is from like 2004

I still found them funny

Phoenix

Bushisms are at least a bit more of an intellectual kind of funny, as opposed to Trumpisms, which are just stupid.

Destructible Lemon

I think if you asked george bush about these things, or one of his team members (at the time or something)

they would say "yeah it's a gaffe"

ask trump or his team about his gaffes, they'll either: deny they ever happened, or act like they make sense

Phoenix

More like, his team will try to say it makes sense, as Trump loudly says he has no idea what you're talking about.

Destructible Lemon

Sean Spicer has stated covfefe was not a typo. I think that's the real comedy of trumpisms

Mendeleev

I should make a book of Trump quotes

Destructible Lemon

7:39 AM

@Phoenix meanwhile the team denies accusations, trump admits it happened but makes it fake news leakers fault

Phoenix

I'm surprised he hasn't blamed Russia for hacking his Twitter account for anything yet.

Destructible Lemon

anyway we should wrap this convo up before we get 100 messages trashed

Mendeleev

Trump quotes: goo.gl/forms/Pu3cMKqofyIOpaGI2

Destructible Lemon

actually the best trumpisms are the trump criticises trump quotes

Mendeleev

@DestructibleLemon WHy would the messages be trashed?

Destructible Lemon

7:41 AM

because mods aren't interested in the entire room being trump bashing

regardless of political leaning

Mendeleev

Right

Destructible Lemon

@Mendeleev or left

Mendeleev

@DestructibleLemon Or centrist

Seriously please submit quotes

Phoenix

I've found that people who identify as centrist like to vote for one of the "off-parties" that have no chance of winning.

Destructible Lemon

Bushisms seem like a symptom of some sort of aphasia or something

Phoenix

7:44 AM

"It's clearly a budget. It's got lots of numbers in it." sounds like an actual attempt at a joke.

Destructible Lemon

We need a President who isn't a laughing stock to the entire World. [...]

Mendeleev

@DestructibleLemon "There's a huge trust. I see it all the time when people come up to me and say, 'I don't want you to let me down again.'" - George W. Bush, Oct. 3, 2000

Destructible Lemon

it makes a weird sort of sense actually

should I submit full quotes or truncated quotes

Mendeleev

Full please

user165474

lol I just 10/10 sprint-followed a random guy (minecraft) who was placing blocks as he/she ran along on a bridge 10/10 not falling into void

Mendeleev

7:51 AM

hacker

it's called "Scaffold"

user165474

?

Mendeleev

nm I misunderstood you

user165474

? 0/10 out bridge has a 20-wide hole in it??? since when lol

Mendeleev

What server?

user165474

bedwards HP

Mendeleev

7:55 AM

@HyperNeutrino Go to this video at 2:38

That what I thought you were talking about

user165474

shoot i just lost 16 diamonds 5 emeralds and like half a stack of gold

user165474

should've jumped over the guy

Mendeleev

Yayy new primitive technology video

user165474

@Mendeleev oh i see yeah I was talking about where the bridge already exists and then the player started placing blocks on top of it to try to slow me down

Mendeleev

Oh, that

user165474

7:58 AM

yeah

user165474

it's annoying

user165474

also 0/10 green team built a 5-block-wide bridge and i still knocked one of them off in a single hit

Destructible Lemon

can I play with you

user165474

probably not cuz i'm going to sleep after this game, sorry

Mendeleev

:(

user165474

8:02 AM

i mean it's 4...lol

Mendeleev

It's 1AM here

user165474

lol EDT for me

Mendeleev

PDT

user165474

ah

user165474

hmm... bow 3 or diamond sword?

Mendeleev

8:05 AM

Por que no los dos

user165474

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sword, i need the emeralds for epearl

Mendeleev

OK

I never use those

Wait, are beds ded?

user165474

yes

Mendeleev

ok

user165474

i don't buy stuff until bed ded lol

Mendeleev

8:06 AM

You just go around with leather armor and wood sword?

I try to get dia armor asap

user165474

yes lol

user165474

I can usually get an average killstreak of 2-4

Mendeleev

heh nice

user165474

maybe higher if I stay on a bridge

Mendeleev

Except when you get lag >.>

user165474

8:10 AM

lol true

user165474

oh snap 0.5 hearts managed to get away by epearling back to base but i almost fell into the void because i jumped then pearled >.>

user165474

now I need more epearl

user165474

i only have 1 left

Mendeleev

Don't epearls damage you?

user165474

nope

Mendeleev

8:14 AM

How? wat

I thought they took off 2.5 hearts unless you have featherfalling

user165474

not on bedwars

Mendeleev

interesting... hmmm

user165474

oh my god yellow team is actually building a 3-level skybase

Mendeleev

Why

user165474

ono sudden death

Mendeleev

8:15 AM

Out of what?

Ono

user165474

omg i was killed by invisible person 0/10 me

Mendeleev

:(

Good night

What was the skybase made of?

user165474

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ good night lol i will be very dead tomorrow(today)

user165474

@Mendeleev wool

Mendeleev

ono rip hyper ded

@HyperNeutrino Why not just fireball them?

user165474

8:17 AM

@Mendeleev i did

Mendeleev

oic

user165474

but my teammate killed the guy right before it hit lol

user165474

i heard like 5 epearl sounds around me overall lol

Mendeleev

Nice

Alex K Chen

Is there an eval(x) analgoue in C ?

Destructible Lemon

8:23 AM

well doesn't c take a while to compile?

Mendeleev

@AlexKChen No, it's a compiled language

Destructible Lemon

@Mendeleev have you ever made a koth?

Mendeleev

No

I should

They look like they would take a lot of work

Destructible Lemon

from my experience, honestly I would not recommend

I need to make a simpler koth I guess

Mendeleev

Idea

Destructible Lemon

8:35 AM

maybe I'll just recontextualise the snowball koth

and pretend it is new

Mendeleev

Rock paper scissors KOTH with memory peeking?

Destructible Lemon

nope

Mendeleev

My sister has a finger game called "Chopsticks"

Chopsticks (hand game)

Chopsticks is a hand game for two players, in which players extend a number of fingers from each hand and transfer those scores by taking turns to tap one hand against another. Chopsticks is an example of a combinatorial game, and is solved in the sense that with perfect play an optimal strategy from any point is known. == Rules == Each player uses both hands to play the game, the number of digits extended on a hand showing the number of points that the hand has. Both start with each hand having one point — one finger extended on each hand. The goal of the game is for a player to force th...

Oh wait, it's solved lol

nm

Destructible Lemon

^^ was gonna say

maybe I'll make a simple dungeon based koth and then link to the other koth

;_; seriously though why only 2 answers

Mendeleev

Car racing KOTH?

Destructible Lemon

8:38 AM

but that's more complex

Mendeleev

ehh

@DestructibleLemon I just had the best idea

BedWars KOTH

Destructible Lemon

nope too complex

Mendeleev

:(

Seems fun

I should make an online 2D bedwars game

Well

I don't know how

Someone should

Destructible Lemon

I too have no clue how to make online things

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev How to make it 2D

Mendeleev

8:44 AM

huh?

top down view

you can place blocks around you

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon It's called a server

Mendeleev

everyone has a certain block view (rectangular play area)

you can't break blocks behind things

ASCII-only

@Mendeleev So basically exactly the same but 2D

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only still have no idea how thanks

Mendeleev

There's shops and weapons

@ASCII-only Yes and online (HTML5/JS)

ASCII-only

8:47 AM

@DestructibleLemon There's something called learning

And online tutorials

And collaborative websites and asking on TNB

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Long Spanish names One of the Spanish naming-convention follows this pattern: (first name) [second name] (paternal last name) (maternal last name)|(husband's paternal last name) {The portion in square braces is optional. If the person is female and married, her maternal last name is replace...

Mr. Xcoder

10:28 AM

Would there be a logical reason for my Wi-Fi to suddenly stop working and show this message (although a site is loaded in about 3 minutes): No internet Connection (on iPhone)?

(Excpet for a problem from the ISP)?

Anyone?

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@Mr.Xcoder Probably not

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