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12:01 AM
@ConorO'Brien Congrats! Now you have to think twice about close-voting as duplicate... :P
 
"gold golf good" :D nice
 
@El'endiaStarman oh shoot yeah thanks
XD
@LuisMendo thanks :D
 
@Lembik @xnor OK I'm going to read the transcript above, but for the moment the question is pretty unclear without much knowledge on the subject...
Nope no clearer, I need to Google Haar
Pretty sure "This means the values of the matrix will be floating point values in the range -1 to 1." is not the actual result of the measure
If it is clear to someone could they improve the question by explaining it for those of us who do not find it so clear?
 
12:25 AM
@quartata Pretty sure he isn't going to learn generators tonight. He got distracted by turtle graphics, as all kids should be.
 
@Geobits :/
 
how old is he, again? (not to stalk)
 
He's nine
 
that's so cool that your teaching him programming so young :D
 
I think he already was programming with Scratch
And I'd say this is about the right age
 
12:27 AM
A bit here and there, yeah
 
Hopefully you're teaching him some bash and Unix too
 
Well he doesn't use Windows ;)
 
Good good
 
and don't let him see TI-BASIC until he's older, that really messed me up for a while
I was looking for the GOTO statement in python >_>
 
Well, you can go your whole life without the TI branch of basic and be just fine.
 
12:29 AM
think of it as an introduction to esolangs :P
 
Or any of them nowadays.
 
That feel when Steam logs you out, mobile authenticator is dead and charging cable is being flaky
 
Fun fact: A group of coots is a covert
 
12:50 AM
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΟΗʹ or even just a cover. Golf that collective noun.
 
1:17 AM
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Q: Solve a Single Player Tron Game

ATacoSolve a Tron Game Tron is a great game, and if you haven't played it the internet has MANY online versions available. A fun challenge is to try to write an AI that plays Tron, which is normally much better than any human, thanks to their frame perfect dodging. Even with their perfect dodging of...

 
1:56 AM
@arda ;_; i thought u said yuo were gonna change avatar to downarda
 
It was changed. Thankfully it was changed back, too :P
 
@Geobits btw i made a thing:
Downdownvote
 
As much as I uh, appreciate it... I, uh, think I'm gonna stick with mine. Thanks though :)
 
Dangit @Dennis, you out-golded me again. At least I'm close on 3 or 4 questions.
 
Breaking News: Screeps code released on GitHub! github.com/screeps/screeps
 
2:04 AM
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC not sure what screep is but \o/
 
Let's setup a PPCG server!
@Downgoat Programming MMPORG
 
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC \o/
 
@Flp.Tkc or implement the ghame of life or rule 110
 
who will pay for it
 
2:05 AM
idea: make CRs pay for it :P
 
No, make mexico pay.
CRs?
 
> You write real JavaScript
:D I like this game
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC i knew someone was gonna say that
 
screeps.com
 
ಠ________ಠ
@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC code review. our rival site :P
 
Let's put it on Heroku/cloud9, for free.
You can mod it too!
 
2:06 AM
+1 good idea, since seem like cool game
 
Yuo have npm/js experience
 
pls halp idk how to put on heroku/c9
okay this game is complex
 
@HelkaHomba I'm a single upvote and an accept away from two Populist badges, but it has been like that for ages...
 
i thought it would just be goat typing shootZombie() over and over really fast
hai @ASCII-only pls halp
 
@Downgoat ok what do you need help on
 
2:12 AM
VSL
it bork
idk how to build
 
17 hours ago, by mınxomaτ
Please stop changing your avatars to down-something. Apart from being the same issue as last time of everyone trying to be unique in the same way, this is even more confusing than changing your avatar to something else. A quick glance at the avatars is an easy way to quickly identify users, which is close to impossible now as they all look the same on small hDPI screens.
 
Those aside, no golf in sight.
 
@Downgoat ok will unbork
 
@ASCII-only thx
 
I'm wondering how my avatar would transform into down-something anyway.
 
2:15 AM
Trust me, it's better not to know.
 
@Geobits Only 5 stars to go. Vote for Downskull!
 
-_-
 
@HWalters see for yourself: vihan.org/p/downgoatify :)
 
@Dennis I'm the 20th :)
 
o/\o
 
2:16 AM
Wow... it... looks okay!
 
@Downgoat Fails on my avatar
 
I was really confused around how that got 19 stars, clicked on it, saw something about getting to 25, and then just starred it.
 
That's the spirit!
 
The problem with this is that we can't downstar. What if I don't want downskull?
 
Oh well. Shucks :P
 
2:18 AM
@quartata I can always just clear them all when it gets to 24 >_>
 
That's mean.
 
@quartata Why wouldn't you? It's a beautiful work of art.
 
@Geobits or just clear it now
 
If you do that, I'll have to unleash my army of sock puppets to restore the glorious stars
 
beautiful work of art three minutes in gimp
 
2:19 AM
@Dennis What if I prefer the sleek round design of regular Geobits?
 
Oh, you're making me blush.
 
Very aesthetically pleasing
 
Nah, I think I'd rather have a skull
 
Have you actually seen it? It's very suboptimal
 
Nope. All I know is that my friend is in love with a skull, from a book she's reading
 
2:22 AM
@Zizouz212 Skull = Yorick? :P
 
This is what we're talking about here ^
 
I support skulls likely because of her :)
@Geobits Looks very aesthetically pleasing. I think it would be absolutely beautiful on you :D
 
It was fine for Halloween
 
@ASCII-only Umm... what?
 
I don't hate it or anything. But I really do like my downvote better.
 
2:24 AM
Don't think you can hide your messages from me! :P
 
Weren't you a pumpkin last year?
 
Bring. Back. The. Skull! :D
 
@Zizouz212 IDK what you're talking aout
 
@quartata Yep, a down-o-lantern.
 
:33422644 Oh? Nice to meet you :)
 
2:25 AM
What's the plan for Christmas?
 
Igloo.
Geostyle.
 
Maybe an icicle? Nice and pointy.
 
@Zizouz212 pls stop abusing mod power 11 oh nvm it doesn't work >:D
 
Hadn't thought about that yet. I'm sure I'll figure something out just in time. That's the usual method anyway.
 
Abusing mod power 11? This isn't 2011...
 
2:29 AM
Somebody should make another chatroom just for Jelly. It would be called "the sixth byte" :P
 

 Jelly

Discussion of the Jelly programming language. (github.com/Denn...
 
@ASCII-only So what actually doesn't work?
 
@Zizouz212 Pinging a deleted message
 
It pinged you.
 
> :33422644 Oh? Nice to meet you :)
 
2:31 AM
That's only because you refreshed during that time
 
It pinged you.
 
Oh yeah, it did. Weird though IMO
 
Ya know, it could've been a hack...
Abusing mod power 12...
13... 14... 15... 16...
 
Hey, I'm working on my KoTH GUI. Does the ability to have multiple games open at the same time sound like a good idea or a mess?
 
KoTH?
 
2:36 AM
King of the Hill
 
Never heard of it
 
@Downgoat I'll deal with that - heroku supports anything :P
 
> Play a game of Yahtzee
King of the Hill?
o_O
What on earth is this thing...
 
you write programs that compete against each other
seriously, its the best tag on the site
 
2:39 AM
So two competing AIs?
 
or more, yeah
 
Ooh that's neat.
In that case, I'm sure allowing multiple games run simultaneously should be fine :)
 
so, everytime you click "new game", you'd be ok with a new window opening up with a new game
 
Yeah, but it may be helpful to have some sort of message box saying the other game is running or something like that. It feels more a matter of taste.
 
@NathanMerrill Hmm IDK
 
2:42 AM
Ooh! Go ask the guys at User Experience :)
They'd know what to do :)
 
@ASCII-only how would you prefer it? I could lay everything out in a single window, but then every time you click New Game, I'd replace the current game with a new one
 
Multiple windows? Not a good idea IMO, I'd say multiple in the same window maybe, or have them in tabs. I really don't like too many windows cluttering things up. Also, maybe a reset button as well as new game.
 
a reset button is impossible
unless the creator does it themselves
 
CMC: Document all 0- through 6-byte Jelly and/or AB150E programs
 
I don't think I want to do tabs, as that means making my own GUI for tabbing
 
2:44 AM
@Downgoat Basically you write echo "web: <command-to-start-server> > Procfile and that's config.
 
and putting them all in the same window means that windows would get arbitrarily huge
so, either I simply replace the current game with a new one
or I create a new window
 
I don't believe that Java doesn't have a tabbed pane library.
 
@NathanMerrill Replace, the user can open up more windows themselves
 
@feersum It'd be really simple to implement actually. If they don't, I'd write one!
 
...I haven't actually checked
 
2:45 AM
@Downgoat You were serious!?
 
@feersum Well, HTML doesn't have one
 
oh, they do
 
And release it as Open Source :D
Ugh... Why doesn't this work
Oh.
That worked.
 
So, I hear that a PPCG Screeps server is starting?
 
@Zizouz212 This is Markdown, not wikilinks :P
 
2:46 AM
@ASCII-only Well that's not surprising since HTML is a terrible thing to have to use.
 
it doesn't look too bad either
 
Java does have tabbed panes, at least Swing
 
Yeah... I was using markdown. Stack exchange has a neat little thing to quickly link sites. Here's PPCG Programming Puzzles & Code Golf
 
Which is [codegolf.se]
 
2:47 AM
@feersum HTML is not terrible :(
 
@HelkaHomba tbh your avatar isnt exactly downgoat-able
 
@NathanMerrill WPF tabs look a lot better :P
 
I don't care that it looks good, just as long as it isn't bad
the point of a KoTH GUI is mostly for debugging
not to watch them run, although that is quite fun
 
@Downgoat pls go on c9?
 
Will try
 
2:50 AM
Oh...what do I name the tabs? Game 1, Game 2?
I hate that
 
@NathanMerrill BTW, thanks for your help on my Fizz Buzz for Turtles challenge... it's a lot more interesting in this form, and people seem to be enjoying it
 
Game One, Game Two... :P
 
@HWalters you're welcome!
 
@NathanMerrill <filename1> vs <filename2>
 
the games are of the same type
and aren't being saved to a file
 
2:57 AM
I think he means the name of the bots
 
ah. Well, a game could consist of anywhere between 2 to (your computer's memory capacity) bots
 
@Zizouz212 PLEASE CAN I MOVE TO YOUR HOUSE
 
Oh true, maybe the first 2 + etc.
 
Umm
I don't know. I have to go (don't take it personally, it's 10pm here, and I have a project to finish up)
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

H WaltersMartian Homework Imagined as two related challenges. Background A bit of history: Around the turn of the 20th century, spiritualist Catherine-Elise Müller allegedly communicated with Martians. During somnambulatory trances, she would write out Martian scripts. Psychologist Théodore Flourney ...

 
3:07 AM
GAH I finally finished my first quine in an esolang. I'm no good at quines :/
 
wat
3:26 AM
0
Q: Labels "floating" above input field when using Materialize CSS and Rails

Dmitry KudriavtsevI'm having this very strange problem with input fields using Materialize CSS and Rails. I'm trying to put together an input form for items, but the labels float above the text areas. Screenshots: Here is my code. app/views/layouts/application.html.erb <!DOCTYPE html> <html> <head> <%= s...

@ASCII-only yes it is
 
@wat how is it terrible
 
wat
@ASCII-only It needs all sorts of tags and symbols
Check this out
 
@wat Like?
 
wat
That is the templating language I'm using. Nice and clean.
 
@wat this is terrible pug > that
plus it compiles to html anyway
 
wat
3:31 AM
you like jade?
 
Yeah it's like HTML minus tags
 
wat
@ASCII-only Umm, that's what this is
 
@Zizouz212 lol okay
 
Why don't you just write everything in Markdown
 
wat
because templates
and tables
and jokes that I don't get instantly
 
3:33 AM
Tables can be done in markdown
 
wat
I use Materialize CSS
 
Templages? Jinja/derivatives like nunjucks >>>>> Pug for that
 
wat
that's for pyton
I'm using rails
jinja is ugly
 
3:46 AM
Aw, a new CnR and I'm busy with TIO. Not fair...
 
lol
working on TIOv2?
 
Yep.
 
wat
4:02 AM
Why does no one want to answer my SO question... :(
 
It's been one hour...
 
wat
4:30 AM
wat
not that long
well crap
I had line breaks after the labels. Of course it was spaced out
 
4:44 AM
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Q: Fill in the holes!

OliverRecently, I asked you to make me a blanket. However, it's Winter, and the holes make me feel really cold. Can you help me? Print this text: \\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\////\\\\//// \\\/////\\\/////\\\/////\\\/////\\\/////\\\///// /\////\//\////\//\////\//\////\//\////\//\////\/ /////\\\...

 
How does the "Community" vote to close a question?
 
when you wish upon a star
 
5:01 AM
@WheatWizard When your question gets a close vote, the system asks you if the other thread "answers your question". If you say yes, Community hammers it.
 
Oh ok
thanks
 
IMO it would make more sense if they show the author
 
6:24 AM
0
Q: Would a tips on verifying languages be on topic?

Wheat WizardI thought it would be helpful to have a question with tips on demonstrating that a system fits our definition of a language. I feel that it would be helpful for language writers to have a section for tips to reference, however I don't know if this would be considered on topic on the main. Thoug...

 
I like how they don't know lisp so they just drew random shit
 
pretty much accurate though.
 
probably not
 
u see i also don't know lisp.
 
6:34 AM
did... did you censor the swearing?
 
which swearing?
 
in the C panel
 
6:51 AM
no, it was a random string in the heap.
 
hi guys =) getting ready to post a big code code golf
gonna ask everyone to see what is the best robot they can make: github.com/asmcup/runtime
any advice?
 
Don't ask as a , ask as a
BTW I have 2k rep now!
 
 
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8:23 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Stewie GriffinThis challenge is related to a few other challenges: 7-segment differences Emulate a 7-segment display Drive a hexadecimal 7-segment display using NAND logic gates A 7-segment display have 8 input ports (a,b,c,d,e,f,g), where each can take the input 0 and 1. It is common to have a contr...

 
8:46 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

ZgarbArray unification code-golf array-manipulation Introduction Consider two arrays of the same length, say A = [0,1,0,2] and B = [-1,1,2,2]. Suppose we know that their contents are equivalent in some sense, item by item: 0 is equivalent to -1, 1 is equivalent to 1, 0 is equivalent to 2, and 2...

 
9:09 AM
Finally ahead of Mego in rep
Feels like I was 100 rep behind him for months
 
9:22 AM
Hello!
 
Hi!
 
10:07 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Kevin CruijssenHead, Shoulders, Knees and Toes, Knees and Toes code-golf Sandbox question: What would be a relative tag for this challenge? Introduction: I think we all know it, and it has probably been translated in loads of different languages: the "Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes" children song: Head,...

 
Anonymous
10:31 AM
@Fatalize That will change :)
 
@Mego Probably. I racked up a lot with that LaTeX answer for some reason
 
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should do that for all esolangs
 
y u no star my 2k message ;_;
 
This took so many precious minutes of my life! But it's tempting to do more, yeah.
 
10:41 AM
Well you don't have to redo the first panel at least
 
Well, the Jelly-knight is definitely a witch, but IDK what the others would be
Maybe J is a powerful sorcerer who’s only memorized spells for assaulting array-shaped castles.
 
"You have Haskell. You try to wrap your head around monads, and you read somewhere that they're like castles. It's not helping."
 
11:03 AM
You make a pure function representing the rescue, but die of malnutrition while trying to lift it to the RealWorld monad
 
Anonymous
11:13 AM
"You have Actually. You spend so much time trying to put your potions in the right order that the princess gets eaten by the dragon."
 
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Q: Create another empty string in .NET?

Lasse V. KarlsenI apologize if this isn't fit for this site but it is a puzzle, not all that practical, so I thought it would fit. Take this code: string s = ""; Console.WriteLine(ReferenceEquals(s, string.Empty)); This will print out true because "" is interned by the JITter at some early point and literals...

 
11:25 AM
"And then there is Java. Both the dragon and the princess run away from the verboseness."
 
Anonymous
@Dennis Can you pull Actually?
 
He actually can.
 
11:43 AM
@betseg Haha, that's punny
 
hi
 
;_;
 
Class is starting, teacher is here
 
Anonymous
@Fatalize You are now 1 rep point ahead of me :P
 
11:54 AM
@Mego still ahead!
though I'm also 3 months ahead...
 
Anonymous
Ugh
 
Anonymous
How original
 
Anonymous
I expect better from you, VTC
 
12:50 PM
@TuxCopter That is... impressive.
 
Do you think global warming is one of the great filters?
 
Bad spam + typo + escaping fail = wat
 
> I am waiting your replay
Seems legit
 
And
> a samall gift
 
Do we really need to requote small portions of that? There are issues everywhere.
 
12:57 PM
@mojimonster 0/10 use this.
 
   Compiling cyano v0.1.0 (file:///D:/cyano)
src\lib.rs:1:1: 1:94 error: #[feature] may not be used on the stable release channel
src\lib.rs:1 #![feature(question_mark, dotdot_in_tuple_patterns, box_patterns, rustc_private, str_escape)]
             ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
error: aborting due to previous error
error: Could not compile `cyano`.
Anyone know how to fix this?
 
@TuxCopter Use Rust beta or whatever
 
ok
 
Heyo
 
Too lazy to draw rn (also can't draw): You have Cheddar / You get a solution quickly / The interpreter has a bug and <insert really bad thing here> (sorry @Downgoat)
This is worst save the princess ever right
 
1:11 PM
Visibly someone found a bad spam offensive
error[E0554]: #[feature] may not be used on the beta release channel
lololololol
 
> You'll need to use a nightly compiler rather than the stable 1.5.0 (or whatever version you have). The multirust183 tool makes it very easy to use different versions.
Whoops you actually need nightly
 
@TuxCopter For what it's worth, I tried to invalidate the flag, but I guess I was too late.
 
@ASCII-only installing it rn
 
@Xanderhall Hello!
 
@Fatalize Which esolang has a good story though
 
1:14 PM
When cyano will be totally working someone could compile cyano to JavaScript
And compile Rust to Javascript with a thing in Javascript
~~~ Rustception ~~~
 
Mathematica looks like a good language to save the princess in, it probably has a builtin
 
@Xanderhall Hey
You have Mathematica / After some searching you found the builtin SavePrincess / You realize it need exotic types for arguments / You end with a 1000-line long code
 
@TuxCopter No wat that is so unlike Mathematica
 
This is how I see Mathematica after using it for some things
 
@TuxCopter You're using it for the wrong things then
Or the wrong builtins
 
1:21 PM
Mathematica has a built-in for identifying goats in pictures.
 
Prolog: "Please save the princess" => "no."
 
You have Rust / You make a function to save the princess / Rust thinks saving the princess from a dragon is highly unsafe and refuse to compile
 
It turns out that the princess is actually a dragon in disguise
 
You have Seed / You try and save the princess - it's only going to take a few googol years / feersum somehow saves the princess
11
 
Hahaha
 
1:24 PM
@ASCII-only The Universe will end by that time
 
You have Befunge-93 / You realize the castle is on the 26th line / You give up
 
@Mego <insert pun>
 
You have Python / You import things like antigravity which should make this easy / Python keeps refusing to import braces
 
You have Perl / You create a regex to save the princess / A malformed spacing crash the program
 
Anonymous
@Dennis Thanks
 
1:28 PM
You have Brain-Flak / You have imbalanced parens / Damnit where is that missing paren supposed to go
 
You have Sigil / %$(%%(#))(You can't reread the code / You rewrite the code)
 
You have PowerShell / You try and write some code to save the princess / You get an error ParameterArgumentValidationErrorEmptyStringNotAllowed / You realize you shouldn't do your production code in PowerShell
 
You don’t have Mathematica.
8
 
You have Vim / How do you exit this thing / ^Cexitaakaskljadsjk
4
 
You have emacs / You are nuked by a vim user
 
1:31 PM
You have Processing / You write some code / You realise you just made a drawing
 
You have TrumpScript / You build a wall to the castle / Oops, the princess is Clinton
 
You have Gaot++ / You try to make a program to save the princess / Leaky Nun somehow saved the princess
 
You have Funciton / Okay, doesn't seem that hard / Wait, what was an integer literal again?
 
You have Brainfuck / You work hard for 3 days / Congrats! You built a wheel!
 
You have Retina / It seems to work / Until you regex replace the princess with the empty string
 
1:34 PM
You have a i386 / You make a program / You realize the processor run in protected mode / You rewrite the program
 
You have a life / Oh wait, no you don't / You go home and golf some more
 
99 challenges on the wall / Take one, golf a solution / 98 challenges on the wall...
 
99 little bugs in the code
99 little bugs
Take one down, patch it around
103 little bugs in the code
 
Sep 16 at 22:06, by Dennis
Keep calm and ^Z killall vim.
 
I just Ctrl+all the letters in the bottom row
 
1:44 PM
@ASCII-only vim starts with vi, virus starts with vi, vim = virus confirmed?
 
ಠ_ಠ
 
vi vi vi = 666
 
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A: Build me a brick wall!

muddyfishTrumpscript, 303 285 244 231 226 bytes make i 1000005-1000000 as long as,i;: make i,i - fact; say "_|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|" say "___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|__"! America is great I would like to say this is ...

just wat
 
2:11 PM
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More Jelly witch.
 
ẇøẃ
 
(Can you tell what that spell she’s casting is from?!?)
 
Probably a kolmogorov spell
 
outlook take forever to reconnect for anyone? i usually just end up restarting it because it takes less time
 
@Lynn Bah, this is close but not the same...
 
2:16 PM
Bingo!
I couldn’t fit the whole thing on there. Oops
 
But the second B is different.
Huh, the rest of it is the same. Ah, artist error. :P
Incidentally, I found it by doing a TNBDE search on "Bo1". :P
 
@TuxCopter I've gotten 5 badges from that answer and am currently awaiting my 6th once a different one is accepted
 
2:38 PM
My best answer has only 7 votes
 
@KritixiLithos I know that feel.
 
2:54 PM
Easy solution: Post more answers.
 
If you're participating here solely for votes, you're doing it wrong.
 
You can do it for fun and still be sad about your lack of votes though ;)
 
@TimmyD Clearly you do it for votes and stars ;)
 
I don't usually feel bad when an answer of mine doesn't attract many votes. If I write a question and it does badly, I feel much worse.
 
@Geobits agreed
 
2:57 PM
@Geobits Sure, but then that's not solely for votes, is it?
@Yodle Drat, I've been found out!
 

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