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English is a fun language to golf in
 
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@flawr There was a video several years back of two chatterbots talking to each other.
 
Anonymous
The sassiness gets to 11 pretty quickly
 
> engls is a fun lague to glf in
 
7:01 PM
.....and here I was thinking I was gonna get some work done, but if this chatroom is gonna devolve into noise...
 
AI vs AI isn't noise. It's AI.
 
It is Friday afternoon, everyone's attention span is long gone
 
@ColdGolf let's be done with that please.
 
Anonymous
@El'endiaStarman You're implying that, at some point, it wasn't noise :P
 
@El'endiaStarman you're on TNB and expecting to get work done? Well there's your problem!
 
7:02 PM
@El'endiaStarman Work done + PPCG chat = what?
 
@BusinessCat :/ tell that to the essay i'm supposed to be writing
 
@Mego from comments:
> The female one keeps interrupting the male one. It's so realistic.
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@LeakyNun when i made it, I thought it worked, but idk what's up with it. Let me bugfix and post. (When I used TIO I thought it was a TIO bug, but its equally borked on my machine.) I have deleted the post until a suitable patch can be uploaded
 
@El'endiaStarman Abandon all work, ye who enter here.
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@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ What essay?
 
Anonymous
7:03 PM
@flawr You're not aditsu!
 
the essay i'm supposed to be writing
 
On what?
 
@DJMcMayhem Well, I can typically switch away and not expect this room to go up in flames...
 
@ColdGolf that's PII, sorry
about local stuff
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Huh? PII?
What's that?
 
7:03 PM
@ColdGolf 3.11415...
 
> Great minds waste time alike. --PhiNotPi
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@ColdGolf 1. try google 2. personally identifying information
 
@El'endiaStarman oh that's right, you have to get to moderate and stuff
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei That's pi, not pii haha.
 
> Personally identifiable information (PII) is any data that could potentially identify a specific individual. Any information that can be used to distinguish one person from another and can be used for de-anonymizing anonymous data can be considered PII.
 
7:04 PM
> Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei haha
I like this number.
Also, Tau is better than Pi.
 
@El'endiaStarman no more
 
> Also, Tau is garbage.
FTFY
 
Also math is stupid.
 
7:05 PM
-_- We really don't need more FTFY chains....
 
> Also, Tau makes maths a lot easier.

FTFY
 
Sometimes, when you stare into chat, chat stares back.
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@ColdGolf Oh really. Tell me then, what's the area of a circle?
 
Moved to Philosophy.SE
@El'endiaStarman 3.2
 
7:06 PM
@ColdGolf τr²/2
 
but that's less golfy
 
#taumasterrace
 
user image
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@DJMcMayhem Please no.
 
7:07 PM
inb4 relavent xkcd
DAMN YOU FLAWR
 
@El'endiaStarman Tau = circumference/raidus
 
Oh, ninja'd so hard.
 
i noticed, thank you very much
 
Tau is the best number.
 
No. That's e.
 
7:08 PM
No, it's bleen
 
@flawr you didn't even link the comic itself
 
I think 1 is still better.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ How are you supposed to do that?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Nope, 6.283185307179586… is the best number.
 
my favourite number is 2
 
I like the golden ratio the most
 
Also it looks like a bomb went off in here again
 
check the history
 
because it represents choice and information (entropy)
 
7:08 PM
TNB: where people get into cat fights over favorite numbers.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I still don't know how to do that.
 
@flawr you didn't know it auto-oneboxes?
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Pip, 7 bytes: PI^@3J1
 
@El'endiaStarman TWO IS THE BEST NUMBER
 
@El'endiaStarman dogs > cats
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7:08 PM
@El'endiaStarman meow?
 
@flawr the link automagically expands
 
@flawr CATS > DOGS
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You know something is wrong when every message on the starboard is from <10 minutes ago
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Woah, three simultaneous pings. I only heard one ping. :D
 
7:09 PM
@BusinessCat come help defend catkind
 
@orlp also the only non-odd prime
 
@quartata shit you mentioned the star wars
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Cat is gretest dog is eivl
 
No I didn't. I'm blaming all of you people
 
It's too noisy in here. Imma come back in an hour
 
7:09 PM
^, bye!
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ star wars I see what you did there
 
Protip: A twelfth of a turn is just Tau/12

No need for those complicated pi formulas!
 
except it makes area look strange
 
τ > π, only on number line.
 
A pi'th of a turn is tau/pi.
 
7:10 PM
$$\theta_\mathrm{zero} = \frac{\tau}{2} \approx 3.14$$

Make Maths Easy Again! Choose Tau!
 
There are as many formulas where tau is bad as formulas where pi is bad
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala
 
this debate is stupid
 
@LeakyNun yes
 
@Fatalize which one?
 
7:11 PM
@orlp ... my phone is now still beeping due to this message
 
@Fatalize Yes, it is. Though I still lean towards pi for a few reasons.
 
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A: Golf you a quine for great good!

Leaky NunS.I.L.O.S, 2642 bytes Credits to Rohan Jhunjhunwala for the algorithm. A = 256 set A 112 A + 1 set A 114 A + 1 set A 105 A + 1 set A 110 A + 1 set A 116 A + 1 set A 76 A + 1 set A 105 A + 1 set A 110 A + 1 set A 101 A + 1 set A 32 A + 1 set A 65 A + 1 set A 32 A + 1 set A 61 A + 1 set A 32 A + ...

 
y u do dis se app ;_;
 
@muddyfish Pi vs tau. Not sure what there is to debate even
 
@muddyfish τ vs π
ninja'd ;_;
 
7:12 PM
Confused about Euler's Identify?

With Tau, be confused no more!

$$e^{i\tau} = 1$$
 
Oh I thought this was still that dogs > cats
 
There is no MathJax here
 
@BusinessCat There is if you install the browser extension SE ChatJax.
 
Want other sane people to be able to read your formulas in less than a second? Choose Pi!
 
7:12 PM
> tauists
sounds like Taoists to me
 
wow silence
 
@LeakyNun what was the bug with my implementation?
 
@El'endiaStarman I use a bookmarklet
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala you didn't start a at 256
 
Protip: if the Pi version of Euler's Identity scares you, there's an elegant solution:

$$e^{i\pi} + 1 = 0$$

Or, just use Tau:

$$e^{i\tau} = 1 + 0$$
 
7:14 PM
@LeakyNun oh ok
 
What?
 
@LeakyNun I have an interesting idea to golf it down. Let me try it
 
@El'endiaStarman One of them is deliciousness.
 
$$e^{i\tau} = 1 \wedge e^0 = 1 \Rightarrow i\tau = 0$$
 
PS C:\Tools\Scripts\golfing> 'τ'-gt'π'
True
Well, that settles it.
 
7:16 PM
@ColdGolf ...
 
(Please test any ChatJax in the Sandbox chat room.)
 
i thought it would work ;_;
 
It did for me, actually.
 
@El'endiaStarman Nobody is testing anything. It's actual maths.
 
And please remember that most of us don't have ChatJax.
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7:19 PM
tau * r^2 /2 or pi * r^2
 
I was going to post a CMC with it...

You can always use latex2png.com, though.
 
Combine Pi and Tau in the PiTaugorean Theorem
 
@ColdGolf I can read LATEX just fine, but that's not the point. I'm certainly not going to paste every other chat message in a converter.
 
@Sherlock9 The Paugorean Theorem
 
$$\frac{\tau \times r^2}{2} = \pi \times r^2$$
ok now
 
7:21 PM
@Dennis Fine, I'll upload it as images.
 
Please don't.
 
Please don't.
 
^^ haha
 
Please don't.
 
I'd rather read the raw LaTeX then have to slog through a bunch of oneboxes
 
7:22 PM
Okay.
Install ChatJax, y'all.
It's cool.
Unless you like to read raw latex for some reason.
 
OR you can just not post tons of LaTeX messages in chat.
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ChatJax is a simple click away to install.

You are the very people who told me about it in the first place.
 
especially if it's to post the 3 random equations where Tau is mildly more convenient than Pi
 
7:23 PM
@ColdGolf but you don't really need to be posting so many latex equations
 
@Fatalize Excuse me? Pi is just nonsense.
 
semi-ninja'ed
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Brush up your maths, bro. haha
 
@ColdGolf If Pi is nonsense, then so is Tau
 
7:24 PM
@ColdGolf it's not that
 
Okay, any further pi vs tau debate is going in the Trash.
 

 Mathematics

Associated with Math.SE; for both general discussion & math qu...
 
@Fatalize That doesn't make any sense.
 
@ColdGolf it was the annoyance of seeing them in a golfing-code chat
 
7:24 PM
@ColdGolf Not possible on mobile, but still not the point. There's no need to clutter the chat room with tons of pi/tau identities.
 
@ColdGolf I think he means they are literally the same +/- the 2.
 
@Dennis Install Firefox for Android.
 
1 min ago, by Releasing Helium Nuclei
@ColdGolf :|
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Actually, Tau is pi x 2. Not +2, not -2.
 
@ColdGolf No.
 
7:25 PM
@Dennis Fine, I'm not forcing you to.
I'll just head to maths.SE chat.

You guys hate maths, although coding kind of does involve the very maths you hate.
 
@LeakyNun I have golfed a good bit off of your implementation, should I sned it to you as an edit?
 
yesterday, by El'endia Starman
@ColdGolf I see you go to the school of Twisting Peoples' Words To Mean Something Else.
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@RohanJhunjhunwala sure
 
I may have the impression that there are a lot of people more well-versed in math than you in this chat
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so here is the TIO
 
7:26 PM
@ColdGolf also, just a PSA: markdown (except blockquotes and code blocks) doesn't work in multiline messages
@RohanJhunjhunwala don't
 
@ColdGolf Aw shoot, why'd I get my Bachelor's of Science degree in Applied Math then?!?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Thanks for letting me know.
 
@LeakyNun I can't paste it. @EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ dont do what?
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala don't make edit suggestions with golfed code
 
7:27 PM
@RohanJhunjhunwala pastebin
 
comment on the post maybe, or ask in chat
but edit suggestions will get rejected.
 
@LeakyNun You didn't pastebin things before.
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ this is the chat
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ yeah I know I was gonna comment it to him
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Keep this between me and him, thanks
 
7:27 PM
Ok I have a question about this comment on my post, and I don't know how to phrase it politely: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/51096/hook-length-product/…
 
Maybe a good challenge idea? ...
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Q: Can a line of Python code know its indentation level?

Fab von BellingshausenFrom something like this: print(get_indentation_level()) print(get_indentation_level()) print(get_indentation_level()) I would like to get something like this: 1 2 3 Can the code read itself in this way?

 
@RohanJhunjhunwala I've golfed it here also
 
@mbomb007 that's pretty cool
 
@LeakyNun you beat me to it
 
in Mathematics, 8 secs ago, by ColdGolf
I just realised codegolf.SE really hates maths.
 
7:28 PM
@LeakyNun my solution is identical
 
The drama has spread
 
Holy cow
 
@mbomb007 Whoa
 
@LeakyNun let me go back to the drawing board, Is it ethiical for me to compete against you to create a shorter solution?
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala of course
 
7:30 PM
@LeakyNun I just don't want to infringe on your ideas.
 
@RohanJhunjhunwala Go right ahead
in Mathematics, 26 secs ago, by ColdGolf
@muddyfish I hope they don't spam here in the maths chat.
 
hey, let's not swarm into there
 
The irony is strong with this one.
 
@LeakyNun I'm not even going to attempt to reply to that
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ That's why I'm refreshing the transcript instead of actually being in the room. :P
 
7:34 PM
same
:P
 
@El'endiaStarman I've actually started doing this with the Nineteenth Byte (sometimes).
 
@El'endiaStarman You can also go incognito on chrome
 
@LeakyNun haha
 
@Adnan then you can't enter the room?
 
7:35 PM
@quartata for the same reasons as math chat?
 
needs 20rep to enter rooms
 
@LeakyNun exactly
 
Mace vs maul:
 
@LeakyNun No, you can enter the room. You just can't talk.
 
@El'endiaStarman I see
 
7:35 PM
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ No, because I know if I actually enter the room I'll feel compelled to reply to something dumb going on
 
Just updated my S'more-generating program, runs much faster now:
 
@El'endiaStarman Whoa. I can't believe I wasted all that time on my degree when simple introspection could have shown to me the unyielding churning hate of all things math and logic at the bottom of my heart
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#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>

void f0(int i0, char c0) {
    int i1;
    for (i1 = 0; i1 < i0; i1++)
        putchar(c0);
}

int main(int i0, char *c_P0[]) {
    char *cP0, *cP1;
    int i1, i2, i3;
    i1 = i0 > 1 ? atoi(c_P0[1]) : 2;
    i2 = i0 > 2 ? atoi(c_P0[2]) : 4;
    if (i1 < 0 || i2 < 0) {
        printf("Remember what happened LAST time you messed with negative S'mores?");
        return 1;
    }
    cP0 = malloc(i1 + 1);
    for (i3 = 0; i3 <= i1;)
        cP0[i3++] = ' ';
 
7:36 PM
@mbomb007 lol
 
@mbomb007 Not what I expected when I first saw "Mace vs maul" ...
 
@TimmyD lol i thought the same.
 
@quartata Time and money! Not to mention, all that homework!
 
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ Use a pastebin instead.
 
@quartata what degree did you get?
 
7:37 PM
@ΛεγίωνΜάμμαλϠΨΠʹ #include <fcntl.h> for write()
 
@ColdGolf it's not that long, it's fine
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Farenheit or Celsius? (I'm not gonna talk about angles in this room.)
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Okay.
 
@flawr I go with Kelvin
 
@flawr Rankine.
 
7:38 PM
@flawr Let's not start an argument about how the only country left in the older imperial system is basically only America.
 
@ColdGolf Well, we certainly could've avoided it more easily by not mentioning it, eh?
 
@ColdGolf i don't think that's really starting an argument, more of just making a joke
 
@ColdGolf Nobody would ahve started it...
 
@ColdGolf By saying that you just made it all the more likely
 
7:39 PM
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei As I said, I'm not talking about angles.
 
@muddyfish A paradox.
 
@ColdGolf no, it's called a self-fulfilling prophecy
 
@El'endiaStarman :/ that also applies to that message
 
@LeakyNun Let's not argue about how....
 
It's not really a paradox, it's like telling somebody "don't think about bananas" and all they can think about is bananas
 
7:40 PM
Don't think about thinking.
 
@BusinessCat We can certainly agree this room has gone bananas. :P
 
Eh, I'll think about it
 
PS: This thing has come back:
 
I like bananas more than apples.
 
7:41 PM
@flawr hey, that's pretty cool
 
be right 2 hours later back
 
have fun doing whatever
 
@flawr Ooh sweet.
 
@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Sorry for nitpicking, but it's "I will be back after two hours"
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Math/CS
 
7:42 PM
oh, cool
 
@quartata I hate CS and I love maths.
 
@quartata are you still in college?
 
What, may I ask, brings you here if you dislike computer science so strongly?
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Does it matter what @quartata's age is?
That's PII.
 
@ColdGolf .. no
there are probably like 1M people in college at the US for any given degree
 
7:43 PM
@ColdGolf Why would you tell us this if it didn't?
 
@Sherlock9 Because it's a fun chat.
 
Well, I believe Easterly is attempting to make conversation
 
So rather than dismissing the question, would you care to answer with "Yes", "No", or "I'd rather not say"
To be polite, of course
 
that was aimed at quartata, btw
 
7:45 PM
Whoops, misunderstood your first post
 
@ColdGolf This isn't the fun you're looking for.
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hey @MartinEnder
that doesn't make it fun...
off-topic, yes
 
TIL: ColdGolf repellent is talking about code golfing.
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Ah, but the idea is to discuss code and code golf in general
 
7:46 PM
@Sherlock9 Everybody is out of ideas.
I mean, for ppcg challenges.
The ones in the Sandbox are downvoted.
 
We love code. We live and breathe code. Computer Science and the hammering thereof into tiny golf-sized pieces is our specialty
 
I need to go eat, bye!
 
@ColdGolf No, you're out of ideas. :P
 
@El'endiaStarman Gve me one idea, then?
 
@ColdGolf Pong KotH.
 
7:47 PM
generating an image of a decision tree
 
@El'endiaStarman How does that work?
Okay, decision tree thing sounds good.
But needs test cases.
 
Also, I think it was done before.
 
@ColdGolf Like any other KotH, but with the game of Pong.
 
this is hilarious to watch a one sideed conversation
 
7:48 PM
Didn't someone post about Arnold's cat map before?
 
@ColdGolf it's an idea
 
Because I don't see the other side
 
@ColdGolf i don't think so
 
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I think it was on the starboard before.
 
Ah it was βετѧ Λєҫαγ
 
7:49 PM
Now you found it.
See, we're out of ideas!
I mean, at least I am.
Pong KoTH is cool, though.
 
I think you fundamentally misunderstand how people generate ideas :D
There are a lot of ways to do it
 
@ColdGolf Feel free to take a crack at it.
 
@El'endiaStarman Given how I'm a downvote magnet, I'd prefer not to.
 
Throwing things at a wall (or a chat) sometimes works, but usually you need to discuss it to get a fully-formed idea
 
7:51 PM
tetris KOTH? One player tries to choose the least optimal piece and the other tries to place it well?
 
@Sherlock9 And Sandbox it, especially.
 
@Dennis We saw it. Why, though?
You've missed many regulars.
 
7:52 PM
Because of the high noise level.
 
@ColdGolf Guess why.
 
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Q: Should we have additional room owners?

trichoplaxCurrently our main chatroom, The Nineteenth Byte, has only the 4 PPCG moderators as room owners. Since the chatiquette is not applicable to other Stack Exchange sites, using chat flags for breaches of chatiquette which are not also network-wide offenses is problematic - wasting the time of 10k us...

 
@flawr He didn't add lots of other regulars.
 
"Let us thank them for volunteering, and may the odds be ever in their favor."
Also how do I do the proper quotey thing?
 
@ColdGolf Just because someone is regularly in chat doesn't mean they should be a room owner. That position comes with special privileges and responsibilities.
 
7:55 PM
Put > before your text
 
@BusinessCat thanks
 
@El'endiaStarman I thought we agreed about this?
 
@Sherlock9 really? image of decision trees?
@ColdGolf you don't need 20 ROs. Only the most mature users.
 
@ColdGolf It's not about adding all the regulars, but a handful of people that can help us improve the signal-to-noise ratio. That thing you like about this chat room, where conversation is usually completely unrelated to PPCG or affine topics, that's a bad thing.
 
7:57 PM
@Dennis I mean, you got like most of em in one timezone.
 
> Noun: a relative by marriage.
@ColdGolf ...no
 
America has 9 timezones iirc, @Dennis. use those.
 
off-topic is fine imo as long as on topic is possible at all times
 
US, UK, and AUS are on there.
 
I assume you asked those 5 people before adding them as room owner?
 
7:58 PM
@muddyfish seems like a good idea
 
but we've already had this discussion
 
@ColdGolf You don't even know where these people are from. Kindly stop telling me how to do my job.
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@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Arnold's cat map
 
@ColdGolf At least Americans drive on the right side of the road. - Source
 
I think it happened when we were designing chattiquette
 
7:58 PM
@Sherlock9 oh, didn't know that was the same thing.
 
It's not
 
When did they volunteer?
 
Off-topic but still somewhat important: What should I put on my tamale?
 
I was mentioning another idea
 
@Sherlock9 okay, i give up on understanding. :P
 
7:59 PM
@DJMcMayhem probably in a mod message or something
 
@mbomb007 Stop editing messages with pings.
 

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