The Nineteenth Byte

> 'WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF‌FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF‌FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF‌FFFF',

quartata

11:15 PM

Messages that are identical get merged

No wonder. What an idiot I am.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

quartata

And yet something like That's interesting gets no matches

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

the '?

quartata

Don't think so.

That would only give it a score of one at any rate

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

also, that long wtf has no matches

feersum

11:16 PM

Needs more dots at the end.

quartata

Huh, no apostrophe did get a match

['Thats interesting!', ['I was hoping it would be good for golfing, but as it turns out, its terrible ATM.']]

Ohhhh

ThreeFx

Laziness

quartata

It's because of the HTML entities

ThreeFx

Or that. Yeah, let's go with that.

quartata

I'll reparse the transcript again then

this time I'll do html.unescape

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

11:17 PM

hm

Nov 19 '15 at 2:56, by Doorknob

or to anyone but people who are new to the internet, really :P

that's in the list of ._. replies

it's not a reply

quartata

They aren't just based on replies

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

oh okay

@quartata what are they based on then?

quartata

A few heuristics

Lemme see what caused that one

DJMcMayhem

I'm about to post this:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

What base is this number in? code-golf math base-conversion Here's a seemingly trivial challenge that is more challenging than it first seems: Given a string that represents a number in an unknown base, determine the lowest possible base that number might be in. The string will only conta...

Do you think I should allow unary output?

feersum

If none of the other bases are bijective, why would you have bijective base 1?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

11:27 PM

@DJMcMayhem why is that hard?

it's the max index of the string [0-9a-z]?

feersum

Oh I thought you meant unary input.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hey @Blue

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Cause the turtle told me

6 hours ago, by trichoplax

It's definitely not as simple as it first appears

idk, I might edit that out

Blue

hello

ASCII-only

it's not trivial?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

11:29 PM

?

ASCII-only

i thought it was just map to value and get max

DJMcMayhem

Well, what would your solution be?

quartata

It has potential for nice tricks:

6 hours ago, by quartata

>x{x.chars.max.next} in Ruby then

DJMcMayhem

It would be pretty easy in some golfing languages, but I don't think it would be easy in python

trichoplax

@ASCII-only Me too, until I realised I was wrong...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

11:30 PM

@DJMcMayhem max index in the list

ASCII-only

@trichoplax how

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@trichoplax how doesn't that work?

quartata

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Not sure how that would work

trichoplax

Off by 1

ThreeFx

max index?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

11:30 PM

then max index - 1?

ThreeFx

idk where you get index from tbh

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ The max index of 4815162342 is 2. The correct answer is 9

ThreeFx

^

ASCII-only

@trichoplax pre-offset by 1

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DJMcMayhem I meant the largest digit/letter in the string, and it's position in a list

ThreeFx

11:32 PM

"a list?"

ASCII-only

a list = list of base digits, 0123456789 etc

DJMcMayhem

Exactly. The largest digit is 8, and it's position is 2.

Sorry, 1

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no

DJMcMayhem

0 indexing and all that

ASCII-only

@DJMcMayhem no

ThreeFx

11:32 PM

you mean the list [0..9,'a'..'z']

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes

ASCII-only

@ThreeFx also A..Z

DJMcMayhem

What's the shortest way of generating 0-9,a-z in python?

ThreeFx

> The string will only contain 0-9, a-z

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

list(map(chr,range(97,123)))

feersum

11:33 PM

Is output in base 36 allowed?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

then it becomes lambda x:max(x)

quartata

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Not that simple

That's what my answer did

Luis Mendo

@DJMcMayhem Why do you say it's harder than it seems? Isn't it just determining the maximum digit and adding one?

quartata

You have to increment by one

ThreeFx

max + 1

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

11:34 PM

oh true

that's still not too hard though

DJMcMayhem

>>> list(map(chr,range(97,123)))
['a', 'b', 'c', 'd', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'h', 'i', 'j', 'k', 'l', 'm', 'n', 'o', 'p', 'q', 'r', 's', 't', 'u', 'v', 'w', 'x', 'y', 'z']
>>>

quartata

And that opens up a can of worms because of how ASCII is laid out

9 + 1 is :

trichoplax

This ^

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DJMcMayhem yeah, i wasn't really replying to you

quartata

My answers works in (weird) bijective base 35: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, B, C, D, ...

abusing the fact that "9".next is 10 in Ruby for some reason and "A".next is B

ThreeFx

11:35 PM

Yeah, but that's fixed in 99% of all golfing languages by having a convert from a to 10 and so on

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

what's the output for the string "asd"?

ThreeFx

t

feersum

lambda x:['a',chr(ord(max(x))+1)][max(x)!='9']

ThreeFx

or whatever that is (20?)

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ 29

ThreeFx

11:36 PM

oh yeah, plus whatever before

ASCII-only

lambda x:int(max(x),36)+1 works i think?

ThreeFx

yep, should

feersum

Oh, that's better

DJMcMayhem

@ASCII-only That's a fantastic solution

feersum

lambda x:int(max(x),36)+1 I mean.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

11:38 PM

triple ninja

my deepest condolences to you

feersum

I was referring to your deleted message.

DJMcMayhem

Idk, should I post it?

ThreeFx

Yes. Does anyone second?

Downgoat

question: what sound does è make in french? idk IPA and all google answers give me IPA

DJMcMayhem

Would it be more interesting with base conversion banned?

Luis Mendo

11:42 PM

@Downgoat I know some IPA. What does the IPA say?

Downgoat

@LuisMendo /e/, /ɛ/, and /ə/

trichoplax

@DJMcMayhem Avoid banning things mostly

ASCII-only

@DJMcMayhem idk, it would certainly be longer

since you'll need to make the list yourself

Luis Mendo

@Downgoat /e/ is between English "bed" and "bid". /ɛ/ is "bed". /ə/ is the "a" in "sofa"

trichoplax

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A: Things to avoid when writing challenges

Do X without Y This isn't always bad, but it's been a particular trap for beginners, so be careful. In the past, there were popular questions about doing a simple task but with the obvious method banned: Produce the number 2014 without any numbers in your source code How to write a C program ...

quartata

11:43 PM

@Downgoat Yeah, it's short e

Downgoat

@quartata so like "eh"?

quartata

Yeah, I think that's the closest.

Downgoat

@LuisMendo hm ok

Luis Mendo

@Downgoat Also, if you happen so speak Spanish, /e/ is Spanish "e". It's a little more closed than the English "e" in "bed"

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Downgoat do you think you can help me make a scoreboard for something?

Downgoat

11:46 PM

@LuisMendo all spanish I know: "hola", "no hablo espanol", "burrito", "taco", "salsa", "guacamole", "enchilada", "fajita"

@RohanJhunjhunwala yeah, sure. (though im a little busy rn)

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

Maraca

Theo

don't forget carnitas

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

Piñata

Downgoat

@βετѧΛєҫαγ TIl that's spanish

Luis Mendo

@Downgoat Haha. No swear words? Inconceivable!

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

11:47 PM

@Downgoat ok if you do get a chance when your less busy its for this challenge (warning some self promotion ahead) codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/90593/…

feersum

WTF... the F# compiler compiles my code if I give a certain variable a 1-letter name, but errors if I give it a 2-letter name.

ASCII-only

what 2-letter name?

feersum

Any one I try.

ASCII-only

what error is thrown?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

dont question it

feersum

11:51 PM

OK guys let's play a game

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

just go with the flaw

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