The Nineteenth Byte

12:01 AM

you are free

and I lost the game

Anonymous

12:16 AM

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Unfortunately all you can do in that situation is wash your hands of the problem and leave. Sure, you put a lot of time into building that server, but servers come and go frequently. There will be another opportunity for you to apply your skills, and hopefully next time you can recognize if the owner is going to be problematic before making the huge time investment.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Mego That's basically my decision.

Anonymous

If the person in charge isn't willing to fix a major problem, it's time to leave. That's why it's called a dealbreaker :P

Anonymous

Call out the owner's refusal to administrate properly in a public way. If that doesn't spur some change, get out.

Anonymous

On the flip side, if you don't make noise and leave, that implies complacency.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Mego Oh, I've made noise.

Anonymous

12:53 AM

Any iPhone users here that could weigh in on this?

Anonymous

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Q: Why does my iPhone 6 randomly ask me to enter my password with Touch ID enabled?

This happens every few days: I wake up in the morning, try to unlock my phone with Touch ID, and it prompts me for my password. The length and complexity of my password and my drowsiness in the morning make for an unpleasant combination. Why does this keep happening? Detailed information: I am...

Helka Homba

1:05 AM

Anyone here?

Downgoat

yes

Doorknob

no

Anonymous

Nope

Helka Homba

Anyone there? -->

El'endia Starman

Where is there?

Downgoat

1:07 AM

yes

@Mego TIL penguins have fingerprints

Helka Homba

Anyone want to join me on the Hive? (play.hivemc.com)

Anonymous

Well, I need more details to properly answer the question of my location. Where is "here", and what p-value would you use to reject the null hypothesis that I am not "here"?

Helka Homba

I'll take that as a no -.-

Nathan Merrill

@HelkaHomba I can't load the page

just sits and loads

Helka Homba

It's a minecraft server

Nathan Merrill

1:20 AM

oh.

nevermind them

oO I tried to reset my password 5 hours ago, and I just got the email

Anonymous

@NathanMerrill That's pretty fast. It usually takes 6-8 weeks.

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Nathan Merrill

-.-

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Pareto frontier A point (x1,y1) dominates another point (x2,y2) if both x1≥x2 and y1≥y2. A set of points is a Pareto frontier if no point dominates another point. In other words, any increase in one coordinate must be met with a decrease in the other coordinate. Your task is to decide whether a...

Helka Homba

1:36 AM

Wow. D. B. Cooper case finally closed inconclusively.

It was probably @AlexA. all along.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Someone on one of the other servers I administrate on is having a birthday.

I might've gone slightly overboard with the cake thing.

LegionMammal978

@VTCAKAVSMoACE How many servers do you administrate?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@LegionMammal978 Six.

LegionMammal978

o_O

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Yeaaaah

I got notoriety on a relatively big one and people asked me to come administrate theirs.

LegionMammal978

1:46 AM

I see

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Just curious, which one?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@LegionMammal978 my.mineadventure.net

It's one of the bigger pure vanilla 1.10 MC servers.

LegionMammal978

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Coming over...

VTCAKAVSMoACE

I write the "plug-ins", what are essentially large command block systems.

charredgrass

Oh right, back in my day I used bukkit but I heard that's dead

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Not much work nowadays, with no major updating since 1.9...

Nathan Merrill

1:49 AM

@VTCAKAVSMoACE I don't understand. No offense, but it doesn't really look like a cake, except for the color

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@NathanMerrill Every block is layered with cake

Nathan Merrill

ah ook

its not one big cake, its a gazillion little ones

Quill

lol

VTCAKAVSMoACE

LegionMammal978

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Is that the connection address?

VTCAKAVSMoACE

1:50 AM

@LegionMammal978 Yes...?

Yeah, it is, just checked again.

Anonymous

@HelkaHomba Who what in the where?

charredgrass

I wonder if I can spoof my location for Go to my house in the US so I can play

but I'll need to make it move...

Anonymous

Oh Tommy Wiseau

VTCAKAVSMoACE

2:11 AM

@LegionMammal978 I thought you knew about the C++ version of MC. O.o

LegionMammal978

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Got zombies on my tail, don't ping me here plz

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@LegionMammal978 oh aight

LegionMammal978

2:45 AM

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Wow

How did u get cake everwhere plug in?

Shameless plug if anyone wants to give me feedback.

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Lets Play Kick The Can! Kick the can is a children's game. Involving one defender, and multiple attackers. Today it is no longer such a game! Your job is to write a bot that plays it, to win, king-of-the-hill style! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kick_the_can There are some key differences in t...

Aearnus

3:28 AM

@charredgrass the game refuses to start if you have "allow mock locations" turned on, on android

charredgrass

Aw @Aearnus, that sucks :P looks like I'll have to physically go to the US then.

charredgrass

4:19 AM

will [tag:code-golf] be formatted properly in a comment?

Geobits

@charredgrass It's probably worth it. There are a few not-so-nice things about the US, too, though, so it's a tough call.

charredgrass

@Geobits I live in the US :P

Geobits

Yes, I see. Reading comprehension fail.

It's pretty fun though. I just got back from a nearby park. There were probably 3-400 people walking around the jogging path playing. On a Tuesday night. It was both incredibly strange and wonderful.

charredgrass

Yeah, it sounds pretty fun! I just wish I could use it now, since I'm in Hong Kong which is way more suited to walking around than my hometown of Los Angeles

Geobits

I bet it would be really fun in a dense area like that. I'm in a pretty sprawly area, but the nice thing is that people congregate in public parks and such, so it seems a bit denser.

VTCAKAVSMoACE

4:33 AM

@Mego @quartata @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I convinced the server owner to not be an idiot! \o/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:48 AM

hooray!

charredgrass

Mathematica is insanely fun to play around with. I am yet to find a way to use it productively.

Lembik

hi all

I have tried to make codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/84592/… simpler to understand

charredgrass

hey @Lembik

Lembik

would appreciate anyone's views on whether I have succeeded

please

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@charredgrass Cool! What are you doing in Hong Kong? (If you don't mind me asking)

charredgrass

4:58 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Internship at an ad agency

@Lembik what did you change?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Woah, that's pretty cool. Do you speek Chinese?

charredgrass

A little

Lembik

@charredgrass a lot of it :) codegolf.stackexchange.com/posts/84592/revisions

charredgrass

Oooh interesting

Lembik

and... why do we never get any reliable news about flight ms804 (completely OT I realize :) )

charredgrass

5:01 AM

looks clearer, at least at first glance

Anonymous

@VTCAKAVSMoACE Yay!

Lembik

@charredgrass thanks.. I look forward to the second glance :)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

My Google-fu says it's 1 pm in Hong Kong right now. Are you on TNB instead of working? :P

Lembik

@Mego do you find it any clearer?

@Mego if you don't mind my asking

TNB?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

The Nineteenth Byte.

charredgrass

5:03 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan multitasking: TNB while listening to some informational video :P

Lembik

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Thanks!

charredgrass

brb lunch

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

BRB sleep

Lembik

surely not "right back"!

VTCAKAVSMoACE

So... I need to parse HTML with regex really quick.

Aearnus

5:11 AM

@charredgrass you should be able to spoof your coords to download the game, then it should work fine i just found out

VTCAKAVSMoACE

Should I worry about Cthulu summoning?

Aearnus

@VTCAKAVSMoACE yea lmao

VTCAKAVSMoACE

@Aearnus shiiiiiiit

Aearnus

@VTCAKAVSMoACE i was gonna send some example regex-html-parsing nonsense i wrote a while back but i guess i had accidentally formatted my machine right after writing it

classic cthulu

charredgrass

5:29 AM

@Aearnus I was able to download the game - I have a US Google Play account. The map is just empty

Aearnus

ah, that sucks

charredgrass

time to hack the gps satellites to move Hong Kong to the US

micro buster

hi

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Hello!

micro buster

how are you

charredgrass

5:32 AM

Hello!

micro buster

@charredgrass you know hacking

charredgrass

it was a joke lol

micro buster

ah

well you made a joke of me

Anonymous

@Lembik I do mind you asking, in fact. I never said your challenge was unclear. In fact, I have never said anything about that challenge. I would appreciate it if you would not pounce on me for challenge feedback the moment I enter the room.

charredgrass

how to hack: $('vulnerability').css('color') = 'red';

Lembik

5:35 AM

@Mego Heard and understood

micro buster

Uhuh

@Lembik bha

Aearnus

hey, do any of you guys have experience with stack based languages?

i'm trying to design one but i've hit a roadblock

charredgrass

oh cool

micro buster

hmmm

charredgrass

(no experience with them at all)

Lembik

5:40 AM

@microbuster you may have to translate "bha" for me :)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Aearnus I know MATL a little bit.

What's your roadblock?

micro buster

@Lembik i shall remove it

but i cant

Lembik

oh ok :)

what did you mean to say to me?

Anonymous

@Aearnus I have a little bit of experience with Seriously and Actually

Aearnus

well, I can't really figure out what i'm missing github.com/Aearnus/charm

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

5:43 AM

@Mego Haha, A "little" bit of experience.

Aearnus

i'm trying to write the stdlib for it but it's really not working out in my favor

also lmao @Mego

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Is it intended to be a useful language or a golfing language?

Aearnus

more of an experimental language

with a rich enough stdlib i could see it being useful for golfing, if i improved the parser

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I'm trying to turn my language into a half stack-based language.

Anonymous

@Aearnus What do you mean?

Aearnus

5:46 AM

@Mego if you've seen the language Joy, i've taken heavy inspiration from that

Anonymous

No I mean what do you mean you can't figure out what you're missing?

Aearnus

and I'm trying to write some combinators for my language's stdlib without writing them in C++

Anonymous

Do you need a list of the essential functions for a stack-based tacit language?

Aearnus

but I can't quite figure out a good way to do it

no no no I'm stuck on writing the combinators that's my problem haha

Anonymous

Can your language self-interpret?

Aearnus

5:47 AM

yes

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

What do you mean combinators?

Aearnus

you can see my progress here github.com/Aearnus/charm/blob/master/Prelude.charm

with the stackNTimes function

supposed to push N functions on to the stack but with a bare minimum of functions to work with in the first place and only one stack it's tough and broken

Anonymous

So you're going the route of writing the stdlib in the language itself

micro buster

coding

Aearnus

I felt it'd be the best solution but i guess not lmao

Anonymous

5:49 AM

I wrote/am writing Seriously's stdlib in Python, so I'm not the best reference here :P

Anonymous

I don't want to imagine how difficult some of Seriously's commands would be to write in Seriously

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Oh hey, speaking of stack-based languages, I wrote one a little while ago.

brain-flak.tryitonline.net

Totally different type of stack-based language.

Aearnus

well I imagined that it would be easier for this language because it's all weird and functional - you can push functions onto the stack and do some metaprogramming

Anonymous

Dumb idea for a programming language: a queue-based language called British. It would be just like a stack-based language, except that data and functions are interpreted in FIFO order. The command to exit the program would be brexit.

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Anonymous

@Aearnus You can do that in Seriously, too. I just really don't want to :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

5:52 AM

I love it. Dibs on writing it?

:P

Anonymous

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Obviously I have dibs :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Dammit. You said it like it was an open invitation...

Phrancis

hai

Aearnus

haha, that's brilliant

Anonymous

The fact that functions' return values would go at the back of the queue would make things interesting

Anonymous

5:57 AM

Making the string 'abc' out of individual characters in a stack-based lang: 'c' 'b' 'a' concat concat. Doing the same in British: 'a' 'b' 'c' concat wasteOfTime concat (wasteOfTime has the element at the front of the queue step out and go to the end)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

So wasteoftime == push(pop())

Anonymous

Or 'a' 'b' concat 'c' concat, but that's less fun

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

?

Anonymous

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan enqueue(dequeue()), but yeah

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Can there be a command about tea?

Anonymous

6:05 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan tea can be dup (make a copy of current element and send both to back of queue)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

This language sounds like a real pain in the ass. I'm excited to see it!

Anonymous

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Spot on, chap

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

oh, am I not a good sir anymore?

:P

Chap is okay too.

Anonymous

I decided that chap sounded more British

Anonymous

Distressing over what one is called, tut-tut

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

6:11 AM

Oh bugger, I think you are right.

Anonymous

6:30 AM

Pinot Noir <3 perfect for programming

charredgrass

@Mego finding the ballmer peak?

Anonymous

@charredgrass Climbing that slope :P

charredgrass

anyone good with JavaScript here?

Anonymous

I am tipsy and I dislike Javascript so sure?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Conor, quill, downgoat all are.

charredgrass

6:35 AM

I need to know if it's better to use [..."foo"] or "foo".split('') (not for golfing)

Downgoat

@charredgrass yeah

Anonymous

Define better

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Probably some others, but those are the ones of the top of my head.

Downgoat

@charredgrass [..."foo"]

that supports unicode

.split("") will split surrogates too

charredgrass

@Downgoat ah, thanks!

Downgoat

6:36 AM

np

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Oh. Hello @Downgoat, I didn't know you were in here!

Anonymous

@Downgoat What why

Downgoat

@Mego because surrogates are multi-byte, idk what else you'd expect

user214599

Hi, guys! I'm back!

charredgrass

Hello @MatthewRoh!

Downgoat

6:36 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I just came in >_>

@MatthewRoh Hello!

Anonymous

@Downgoat Sane unicode support?

user214599

c_c

Downgoat

@Mego no not really because "" wouldn't be splitting every "" then it would rather be splitting every "\uDC00-\uDFFF"

those are still chars and in the case you'd want to split on them then what would the behavior be?

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Hello

Downgoat

Hello @zʏᴀʙiɴ101!

charredgrass

6:39 AM

I hate how everytime I try to look up stuff about Pyth, either Python related stuff or Counter-Strike related stuff comes up

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@charredgrass pyth.readthedocs.io

Downgoat

@charredgrass ask in here, you'll get an answer much quicker

(usually)

i thought of brilliant solution

instead of making generators for cheddar

i will abuse JS generators :D

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

halp how do i create permissions on a fake fs

Downgoat

such a simple idea

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ wat

Anonymous

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

6:41 AM

@Downgoat I thought that was what you already do with primitives

Downgoat

@Mego no you should obviously do sudo find / -delete

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ wat no

charredgrass

to clean useless files from linux, try sudo apt-get purge emacs

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Downgoat

@charredgrass This deserves a pin

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

fake fs = not even a fuse, just a folder intended to be accessed as a seperate fs

Doorknob

@charredgrass >apt

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

6:44 AM

@Downgoat I mean I thought Cheddar primitives were just thin wrappers over JS primitives

Doorknob

@Doorknob Here are more useless files that you can clean :P

Downgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ no not at all

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@charredgrass s/linux/Debian-based distro/

Downgoat

@Doorknob 10/10 for working markdown :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Not just ubuntu. Also debian.

Doorknob

6:45 AM

@Downgoat >implying it was intended to be markdown

Downgoat

oh :|

\o/ \o/ \o/ got third gold badge on SO

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Nice!

Downgoat

halp how make generator my genius workaround won't work ;_;

blame-babel

i need to make generators for cheddar

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

workaround?

Downgoat

7 mins ago, by Downgoat

instead of making generators for cheddar

7 mins ago, by Downgoat

i will abuse JS generators :D

can't babel can't transpile generators without stupid babel-polyfill

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

6:49 AM

@Downgoat wat

Downgoat

babel cannot transpile generators properly without using the babel-pollyfill

I'll have to roll my own ;_;

okay well brb in a long time

Anonymous

I'm not entirely sure what just happened

Downgoat

._.

Midnightas

ey' dudes and dudettes

charredgrass

ay @Midnightas

Downgoat

6:51 AM

@Midnightas hello!

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat wait, you can't just use functions?

Downgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ waddya mean?

Anonymous

The first glass of wine is wearing off... Another!

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

change functions so they use array index instead of .shift (iirc), then somehow have a seperate scope for each invocation

generator scopes will have a private property index or something

Downgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ huh?

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

6:55 AM

generators should work pretty similarly to functions

Downgoat

ik

OH SHIT

this stuff is destructive

that's not good

shit shit shit shit shit shit shit shit

damn it

Geobits

@Mego Great Idea™

Doorknob

@Downgoat ... you okay there?

Downgoat

no

goat is going crazy

Anonymous

@Geobits Thanks for the motivation to get the second glass of wine. If you say it's a good idea, obviously it is.

Geobits

6:57 AM

To the room in general: Most useful Pokemon Go companion app you can think of in 3..2..1... go!

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat the current stuff?

Geobits

@Mego I have no wine atm, but I'm thinking rum will do.

Anonymous

Downgoat right now: youtube.com/watch?v=OJAioFb3IOA

Anonymous

@Geobits Reddit

Downgoat

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ fors

they shift the tokens

@Mego ;_;

Geobits

6:57 AM

@Mego Let me clarify: An app I can write to ride this wave.

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Downgoat for loops shift the tokens? D:

Downgoat

yeah

i am going crazy rn sorry. gimme a sec to calm down

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@Geobits Maybe some useful calculators, and a mini-wiki/info

Anonymous

@Geobits Something that uses GPS and Google Maps to send you push notifications when rare Pokemon are within a certain (user-configurable) radius of your location, submitted by other users. Like Waze but for Gyrados.

charredgrass

does node.js not have the ... syntax for iterators?

Geobits

6:59 AM

@MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ I was thinking about that. I've got the apk, am going to try to reverse in the morning to see how much useful data they store in the app vs the servers.

@Mego Hmm

Mᴀʀs Uʟᴛᴏʀ

@charredgrass It does, but @Downgoat is intending it for ES5 browsers as well, so he uses the Babel transpiler

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