The Nineteenth Byte

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

12:00 PM

@Quill You implement ES8? :d

Quill

ES7 and ES2015

I'm using async/await and the rest and spread operators a lot.... Upgoat would be proud

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

So, the Chattiquette has fallen off the starboard! :D

I should be free until the Chattiquette is pinned again...

Quill

hey @Doorknob, can we look at pinning chattiquette again? I would do it, but the words would look weird coming out of my chat account

mınxomaτ

If you do, choose a short message and get to the point. Otherwise it's wasting too much starboard space.

A link in the room desc. would also suffice.

Quill

@mınxomaτ Yeah, it'll ellipse otherwise

Doorknob

12:18 PM

@Quill It wouldn't show up as posted by you if you pinned it

Now would be a good time to actually implement the rules, anyway, since nobody has complained

room topic changed to The Nineteenth Byte: General discussion for codegolf.stackexchange.com | Guidelines: ppcg.github.io/chatiquette (no tags)

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trichoplax

@Doorknob Since there hasn't been any official objection (like posts on meta), just murmurings in chat about memes, will the chatiquette be moved onto meta as a faq?

Doorknob

It's only really relevant to chat, so probably not.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Hooray, I'm free nevermore D:

@Doorknob I wish there were downstars.

@Doorknob However, I did complain.

trichoplax

@Doorknob Fair enough. Is meta still the right place to bring up discussions about chat rules?

Doorknob

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I'll rephrase: There's been a general agreement.

@trichoplax Yeah, I suppose. Or it could just be done within chat itself.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

12:30 PM

So basically, me vs the rest of the room.

Doorknob

There's a chat tag on meta, too.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

The rest of the room won. :'(

Quill

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 not necessarily

People are concerned that TNB (while fun) is getting a little out of hand

Caret walls, old memes and single character chat messages only make it harder for everyone to have fun

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

That makes the room only a place for perfect discourse (not just discussion) about site business and what they think relevant.

With site business coming first.

Quill

This isn't about killing fun and killing personality, this is about growing, helping, and making everyone feel like they can talk and ask questions without being lost in waves of shit

trichoplax

12:32 PM

@Doorknob What I prefer about meta is that something raised sticks around to gather views from all sides. I like chat for informal discussion but it's hard to keep track of who thinks what.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

There must be a 119th Byte, early or late.

Doorknob

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Do you not want on-topic discussion to take precedence? While casual conversation is common, there's still a purpose to this chatroom.

@trichoplax Right, that's a good point. It's a lot more organized.

Quill

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 Site business is important, and we don't want to kill good conversations just to have it, but waves of shit are near impossible to conduct site business in

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

@Quill Yeah.

trichoplax

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I'm fine with discussion veering away from the main topic, as long as it's still discussion. There are other places on the internet for posting walls of cat photos.

(not that you're responsible for the cat photos - just making the distinction between off topic and not chat)

trichoplax

12:48 PM

Sorry I think I killed the conversation...

Quill

sorry, was busy elsewhere

Please don't get the thought we're trying to be the fun police @zʏᴀʙiɴ101

We're trying to make an awesome place for code golfers to talk about the site, code and all kinds of things. we just think caret walls, mass message posting and old memes aren't awesome

trichoplax

I like the chatiquette. Seems just the right balance - not too strict but not too lax

PhiNotPi

@Doorknob My quote! :(

trichoplax

@Doorknob It's just occurred to me, the one problem with having the chatiquette hosted off site is Peter Taylor won't see it so won't know that chat is safe to come back to...

Quill

you'll have to superping him and tell him :p

trichoplax

1:03 PM

@PhiNotPi You had over a month longer than aditsu ;)

PhiNotPi

Okay then, but we need to find a new quote to put there.

trichoplax

It would take up an extra line of right panel space, which means one less line of starboard for those of us with small screens :(

PhiNotPi

@trichoplax Make it a really small quote then?

trichoplax

About 10 or 11 characters might fit. That's not even long enough for "Quote golfing"

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Visualise Bit Weaving code-golfascii-artkolmogoriv-complexity The esoteric programming language evil has an interesting operation on byte values which it calls "weaving". It is essentially a permutation of the eight bits of the byte (counting from the most-significant bit): Bit 0 is moved to ...

Quill

1:09 PM

@NewSandboxedPosts you misspelt kolmogorov

Martin Ender

@Quill no, I did.

zʏᴀʙiɴ101

Also, is misspelt a practice in the American/British English dialect?

Quill

@MartinEnder I always thought New Sandboxed Posts was a bot of yours... huh. TIL /s

trichoplax

@zʏᴀʙiɴ101 I think spelt is common in the UK

Slightly confusing as spelt is also a type of grain...

Martin Ender

Chat mini challenge: find a layout (for the sandbox challenge) with only 3 lines of box drawing characters, or prove that that's impossible

Quill

1:16 PM

hey there @El'endiaStarman and @Upgoat

El'endia Starman

@Quill hello

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder constructing

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman sp00k!

Leaky Nun

@MartinEnder It's impossible to use 3, so I'm using 4

I can't formally "prove" it, but it lies around 4->6, 6->7, 7->5

Martin Ender

@LeakyNun yeah I'm having trouble with those as well.

I have a solution in 4 lines where the last line is almost completely unused

which is why I was wondering whether it's possible in 3

El'endia Starman

1:27 PM

Oh wow box drawing characters are perfect in Notepad. :P

Leaky Nun

pastebin.com/qqPj0Mw2

You know, those redstone wiring skills

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman #notepadmasterrace

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PhiNotPi

1:43 PM

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