The Nineteenth Byte

Upgoat

12:01 AM

^ trying to use node debugger

trichoplax

@LeakyNun What output are you intending? A list of 16 unnamed functions?

RenderSettings

All of my codegolf entries are terrible :D

Zizouz212

OH MY GOODNESS THERE'S A BLUE QUILL PERSON THINGY!

RenderSettings

"Ah yes, the leading solution is 26 bytes. Let me just post my 246 long solution instead."

Quill

sorry, sprint ran overtime

four pings, six mentions.....

Zizouz212

12:08 AM

Congrats @Quill :)

Quill

@Zizouz212 thanks :) and thanks @quartata

Upgoat

;_; everyone is mod except me

so much blue

Quill

Zizouz212

Shucks because you probably have double my rep too...

Quill

@Upgoat I think I've finally accepted Lambda functions as pretty

Upgoat

12:10 AM

@Quill for some resin yoru clone code is borked

@Quill :D

but you put too much on onel ine

Quill

@Zizouz212 rep != expertise

Zizouz212

Tis is true.

Quill

@Upgoat it won't necessarily work for non-object types

Upgoat

...

well thats not good

Quill

@Upgoat 418stat.us

@Upgoat well yeah, you gotta change the copy method

Upgoat

12:11 AM

oh nice url

i should get blogo.at

Quill

it uses the Object.prototype and an object copy

array copy would be different prototype and copy method

Upgoat

oh god 72 euro for .at domain

@Quill i need class copy

instanceof seems to be not wokring

Quill

@Upgoat godaddy.com/domains/…

Upgoat

oh :|

Quill

@Upgoat classes instances or class declarations?

Upgoat

12:14 AM

class instandce

Zizouz212

Ew godaddy

Quill

haha the code golfer ungolfed the code reviewer's code

Upgoat

do you really need loops? like i could just like... not make for loops?

cheddar> for (var i := 0; i < 5; i=i+1) { print i }
cheddar>

cheddar>_cheddar>

Quill

function cloneObject(type, source){
    var result = Object.create(type.prototype, source.__proto__);
    Object.keys(source).forEach(prop => result[prop] = (source[prop] instanceof Object ? clone(source[prop].__proto__, source[prop]) : source[prop]));
    return result;
}

everything is an object anyway, so meh. you just gotta change where the prototypes come from

if it's an array type, that's different again

is it an array type?

Upgoat

idk

Upgoat

12:52 AM

@Quill is it better practice to have a space between for and ( or not?

Quill

it's style choice, depends which style guide you follow

In Quill's style guide, there's a space between for and (

Bigtoes

Quill's style guide is wrong :/

trichoplax

In Geobits' style guide, there's a tab between for and (

Quill

1/4 of a tab

@Bigtoes still better than StandardJS

Bigtoes

@trichoplax Two tabs and a space, actually.

trichoplax

1:06 AM

Star achieved. Now I can sleep

Bigtoes

@Quill True, although that's not a big brag :P

Upgoat

@trichoplax yw

trichoplax

@Bigtoes Now I'm going to have nightmares...

Bigtoes

33 secs ago, by Upgoat

@trichoplax yw

Quill

@Bigtoes standardjs.com/rules.html

trichoplax

1:07 AM

@Upgoat Uh, thanks... :P

Quill

no, really.... two space indentation

Bigtoes

Ehh.... I agree with maybe half of those things >_>

Upgoat

@trichoplax did you not want to sleep

Quill

1:21 AM

5

Illuminati

Proposed Q&A site for members, researchers, believers and deniers of the Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era founded secret society

Currently in definition.

LegionMammal978

^ Found it on the Interwebz

Quill

1:35 AM

var myBool = Boolean("false");  // == true
var myBool = !!"false";         // == true

Maltysen

@Quill followed

Upgoat

1:49 AM

@Quill wat seriously

@Maltysen ಠ_ಠ

brb running for pro term on Illuminati

Nathan Merrill

Huh. So apparently, imperfect computing is a thing

Upgoat

this will help build my reputation on StackExchange

I don't want people thinking I'm some sort of fool

Quill

@Upgoat s/pro term/pro tem/

Nathan Merrill

theres a chip called the Singular Chip which returns approximately the right answer for arithmetic

but because it isn't exact, it can go hundreds of times faster

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Quill 10/10

Bigtoes

1:55 AM

@Quill 60% of their followers also follow Conspiracy. Coincidence? I think not.

Quill

It's a shame they don't follow skeptics

Bigtoes

> On what basis there is a conspiracy that CIA teleported Obama to Mars?

wat

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill How inexact is it?

Nathan Merrill

its probabilistic, so its impossible to give a definite range

Alex A.

@Bigtoes He grew potatoes, drove a rover... It was a whole big Mark Watney thing

Bigtoes

1:58 AM

int add(int a, int b){
return Random.nextInt();
}

Nathan Merrill

and unfortunately, I can't find any "official" sites talking about it

Alex A.

@NathanMerrill If it's probabilistic, its error should have some distribution, hopefully centered around 0, which should hopefully have a finite variance

Nathan Merrill

right, but I can't get any solid data on that

Alex A.

Ah okay

Bigtoes

> What are the benefits of Illuminati membership? Is there a health plan? Discounts on auto insurance?

Maltysen

2:00 AM

@Bigtoes Illuminati == AAA confirmed

Alex A.

hahaha

Nathan Merrill

however, that said, they are targetting it towards image recognition and machine learning, which says to me that it won't be fit for general computing

Bigtoes

@Maltysen The dental plan is crazy though. They put little radio receivers in your fillings.

> How many times has the government harvested my kidneys?

Uh, well you only start with two kidneys, and you need one to survive, so that kinda puts a cap on it....

Quill

why is it that the room devolves into chaos when @AlexA. arrives

Maltysen

@Bigtoes well, it doesn't have to be an integral number of kidneys

Upgoat

2:02 AM

wat happened that this room went from illuminati to government harvesting kidneys ._.

Bigtoes

@Quill I'm pretty sure it was you that posted the Illuminati link >_>

@Upgoat You think they're not connected?? Sheeple.

Upgoat

._.

Maltysen

@Bigtoes that's what the Illuminati wants you to believe

Bigtoes

Oh god, how many kidneys do I even have?

Alex A.

Not enough

Upgoat

2:04 AM

@Bigtoes well they're the ones you took from Chatgoat's corpse. You could always take Marky's, I wonder if the upvote buttons have kidneys...

Bigtoes

@Upgoat Huh? No, Marky made a pie of those.

Upgoat

._.

did he like mash them up?

Bigtoes

Yep.

Steak and kidney pie

Steak and kidney pie is a savoury pie that is filled principally with a mixture of diced beef, diced kidney (often of beef, lamb, or pork), fried onion, and brown gravy. Steak and kidney pie is a representative dish of British cuisine. == Pie == The gravy typically consists of salted beef broth flavoured with Worcestershire sauce and black pepper, and thickened with refined flour, beurre manié, or corn starch. The gravy may also contain ale or stout. Hot water crust pastry, puff pastry, and shortcrust pastry are among the pastry crusts prepared for steak and kidney pie. Among the various vernacular...

Upgoat

> often of beef, lamb, or pork

there's no goat D:

@Bigtoes Was it good?

Bigtoes

I only had a bite to taste, but it wasn't bad.

Upgoat

2:06 AM

:D well I'm glad Chatgoat's corpse is satisfying people

Bigtoes

Not as good as his curry though.

Upgoat

:/

Alex A.

@Bigtoes ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Bigtoes

@Upgoat Sorry, I'm just not a fan of kidney in general. Nothing against Chatgoat. I don't like liver much either.

Sp3000

I like steak and kidney, it's a cool place to live :)

Upgoat

2:08 AM

O_o TIL hacking a mac is as easy as restarting it

Bigtoes

@AlexA. Are you sure you didn't mean to lenny the one above that? >_>

Alex A.

@Bigtoes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Upgoat

@Sp3000 where is it google maps can't find it

Bigtoes

Maybe try Cake in Sydney?

Upgoat

> Steak and kidney pie is a representative dish of British cuisine.

I don't like British cuisine anymore

Sp3000

2:09 AM

Geobits got it :P (it's just Sydney)

Upgoat

> Rhyming Slang

._.

Bigtoes

Rhyming slang is so damn weird.

Upgoat

do phones blow up due to overheating?

Sp3000

I don't think I've actually heard anyone use any of those in actual conversation, but it's probably not something you hear in urban areas anyway

Quill

Sydney's nice, I had dinner on one of the waterfront restaurants earlier this year... pretty nice experience :)

Upgoat

2:11 AM

@Sp3000 idk, I'm not australian but maybe @Quill or @MᴀʀsUʟᴛᴏʀ would know

Bigtoes

@Upgoat More likely to melt the battery and possibly catch fire. I wouldn't expect one to actually explode.

Upgoat

;_;

batteries can explode though

Quill

@Sp3000 I don't think I've heard the word "kidney" spoken in months

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Quill As a CR person who knows ES6, would it be better (in general) to do new Map or new Map()?

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ new Map()

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:12 AM

that's what I thought

Bigtoes

@Upgoat Sure, but it's very rare. Like I said, it'll more likely leak or catch fire.

Quill

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Map is a function, Map() is a function result

Sp3000

Probably one of those words you know is common but hear very infrequently

Upgoat

still i like my phone not on fire ;_;

Quill

Australia is just like USA, except it's a lot hotter and we don't have donald trump

Bigtoes

2:13 AM

@Upgoat Stop overheating it then. Goat fur is not a good phone pocket.

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ new Map is valid, but you're not supposed to do it that way as the JS specification doesn't allow it but implementations do (i think)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Upgoat huh, TIL

Upgoat

@Bigtoes I can't stop it ;_; im updating to ios10 and its borking

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

g'night

Upgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ night!

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:13 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ night!

Sp3000

@Quill Er...

Bigtoes

@Upgoat Oh. Well that's your problem right there. ios and all.

Quill

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ bonne nuit

Sp3000

(well I guess that's a had technically)

Upgoat

@Quill TIL Australian slang "bonne nuit" :P

Quill

2:14 AM

my french is horrible <_<

Sp3000

"Australian"

Upgoat

? should I call them aussies or somethin?

Bigtoes

Call em kiwis. They really like that >_>

Sp3000

Not sure if there was sarcasm there, but "bonne nuit" isn't English

Upgoat

@Bigtoes well right now i have no OS, just kernel borking

Sp3000

2:16 AM

@Bigtoes ... stares

Bigtoes

Me? What did I do?

2

Upgoat

@Sp3000 are you aussie too?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah

Sp3000

Nah it's all good, NZ's nice too

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Bigtoes hahaha

Upgoat

2:16 AM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I thought you're californian

Sp3000

@Upgoat Yup

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah

Quill

does anyone read profiles before asking questions?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yeah

do you?

Bigtoes

I just assume everyone avoids the location question like a sensible person would :P

Quill

2:17 AM

like "what's your X?".... it's in my profile man ;-;

Sp3000

Profiles can lie though :P

Upgoat

> The name derives from the kiwi, a flightless bird, which is native to, and the national symbol of, New Zealand.

TIL

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yes

@Sp3000 can't fly, he is a very pixelated city.

Alex can, but isn't australian.

Bigtoes

I've flown lots of times.

Upgoat

@Sp3000 Like Chatgoat's profile says he lives in Chatgoat's barn but he's really in Marky's pie

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:18 AM

@Bigtoes yes

Sp3000

Kinda funny how NZers are called "kiwis" but you don't see people calling Aussies "emus"

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

but Sp hasn't.

@Upgoat o_O

@QuillTheEmu?

Quill

Ken Ashcorp - PvP (Blizzcon 2011 Song Contest WINNER 1st Place)

►

Upgoat

14 mins ago, by Bigtoes

@Upgoat Huh? No, Marky made a pie of those.

Sp3000

Define: "flown" :P

Bigtoes

2:19 AM

@Sp3000 We could start calling you 'roos.

Upgoat

what about koalas?

Bigtoes

Emus aren't distinctive enough. You need either kangaroos or koalas for sure.

Upgoat

alas'roos

Bigtoes

I guess walas could work. It's the last half of koala and the first of wallabies :P

Upgoat

TIL: dprkfilm.com/index.php

Quill

2:21 AM

Sp3000

Ah yes, the good old days where we'd ride in a kangaroo to school...

4

Bigtoes

You're lucky. We didn't even have shoes, and it was uphill both ways. And snowing. And, uh, broken glass lined the street beneath the snow.

Quill

in Maid Café (メイド喫茶), 48 secs ago, by Hakase

2

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

New rule of TNB: Don't trust the downvote, Mark Wahlberg, goat curry or the llama.

4

Bigtoes

@Quill That's actually a pretty good guide for people who can't tell.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

2:25 AM

^

A friend told me that (he is korean).

Upgoat

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ ;_; why would you not trust me

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

no

the other goat curry

the chatbot

Upgoat

oh ok

Bigtoes

Wait, why would you not trust me? When have I ever steered you wrong?

That's the problem with young people these days. No respect for their elders.

El'endia Starman

@Bigtoes Three words: fake graduation announcements.

Bigtoes

2:27 AM

@El'endiaStarman Uh... we're graduated.

Upgoat

@Bigtoes Five words: Letting Marky kill my goat

Bigtoes

@Upgoat Marky did that, not me.

Upgoat

@Bigtoes fixed

Bigtoes

Marky is an autonomous being. You "let" him just as much as I did.

feersum

Maybe we had already graduated back then, but Stack Exchange inadvertently forgot to tell us.

Bigtoes

2:28 AM

@feersum Now that wouldn't possibly happen >_>

<_<

Upgoat

@feersum whaaaaat, when has Stack Exchange "inadvertently" forgotten about us

El'endia Starman

@Upgoat *gasp* That's a thing they do?

Upgoat

:D iphone updated to ios10 without blowning up

Bigtoes

Did it at least brown up a little? That's how you know it's done cooking.

Upgoat

yeah, it's gold

golden brown usually means it's cooked right...

Bigtoes

2:32 AM

Ask Marky. He's the chef around here.

Upgoat

shit I forgot my facebook password :|

Bigtoes

Oh, let me look it up for you. Just a minute...

Ok, it looks like it's 2seXXXy4myGoat

5

Upgoat

...

how did you hsck my facebook

Bigtoes

I have the list. It wasn't a hack.

TIL I can't downvote on A51 until I get some rep. I truly didn't know it worked the same that way. Sad me :(

El'endia Starman

This song I just heard for the first time today has potential to become a favorite of mine.

Anže Štupar - Home Port (Ft. Inez Osina) [Epic Powerful Galaxy Vocal Futuristic Score]

►

Upgoat

3:29 AM

O_o I think npm is larger than node itself

Quill

developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/…

Upgoat

Marvel next movie confirmed: The Unscopables

Nathan Merrill

@El'endiaStarman its way good

Quill

developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/… oooh, CC @Upgoat

Upgoat

> Downgoat[Symbol.species] === "goat"
< ReferenceError: Can't find variable: Downgoat

-1

ooh, that will be good for faking delegate arrays

ono sudo apt-get install npm is broken D: D: D: D: D:

Quill

3:33 AM

@Upgoat exactly :D

Upgoat

;-; why is there no tutorial on how to install npm without apt-get

Quill

I might write a blog post on the Symbol prototypes and how computed property keys allows for modification of them

El'endia Starman

@NathanMerrill I really love epic vocals. ^_^

Upgoat

i already tri all googl link

@Quill brb stealing idea

Quill

install npm first

Upgoat

3:35 AM

i already tri

curl -L npmjs.com/install.sh | sh

such fanciness

What's a synonym for "property" that begins with S?

El'endia Starman

@Upgoat I don't see any S- synonyms here, but what about attribute, characteristic, or trait?

Upgoat

I need to make a alliteration "Special Symbols Set [...]"

Quill

@Upgoat damn, I forgot about Object.assign, that's what you should use instead of that function I wrote earlier

El'endia Starman

@Upgoat Errrr.....signs?

Upgoat

> gunzTarP

TIL npm speaks lolcat

So I ran npm install script and it ended with:

It worked

10/10

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

3:44 AM

@Bigtoes .....

Quill

I finished my blog post on computed property keys, but I'll publish it later

Upgoat

@Quill nice

Quill

I'm struggling to find a decent topic to blog about <_>

Helka Homba

@Quill Dumb, annoying, but rarely mentioned design choices of common software.

Upgoat

@Quill idk, maybe your coding style? and what you'd reccomend

Quill

3:58 AM

@HelkaHomba common design choices?

Helka Homba

e.g. how the default Win10 video player "Movies & TV" makes the video gray when you pause it. What if I'm pausing it to see the still frame Windows! >:|

Or how Android volume rockers control the "notification" volume if no sound is playing. A huge annoyance if you're queuing up a video and have to wait for it to load and start playing before easily setting the desired volume.

Quill

@Upgoat that sounds interesting.... I've been meaning to do up a GitHub repo on that, actually

Upgoat

;_: SE app crashes on ios10

Helka Homba

Is it true iPhones (and iPods?) can't natively be used as flash drives? I was flabbergasted when I heard that the other day.

Upgoat

@HelkaHomba yeah they kinda can but you'll need either itunes or a special app to access the files

apples all about "cloud" and wireless so I guess they want you to buy icloud storage rather than your phones

Helka Homba

4:14 AM

@Upgoat So if you just wanted to store a txt file on your phone copied from your computer, what would you do? On Android I could just plug my phone in and drag the file to the phone listed as a drive like a usb stick.

Upgoat

@HelkaHomba idk probably use icloud drive and access it from icloud.com or if it's your mac, then you can use universal clipboard

Quill

@HelkaHomba why would normal users want to do that though?

Helka Homba

@Quill So they don't have to carry around a flash drive. Why would Apple restrict such a fundamental convenience?

Quill

because normal users don't really consider their phones as a flash drive

Bigtoes

@HelkaHomba I don't know anything that would be better for the "nothing playing" volume rocker function. I most commonly use it with nothing playing to silence my phone before a meeting/date/etc. While the pre-video thing is annoying sometimes, I'd rather it be the way it is than to default to media volume.

Upgoat

4:17 AM

idk but it takes lots of time, money, and a lot of other things to make a single feature. and most people won't use it, so I guess they didn't think it was a good idea

Quill

@Upgoat less about that, and more about adding unnecessarily complicated versions to an environment

Helka Homba

@Quill I care that I can fill up my gigabytes any darn way I want to :/

Upgoat

@Quill though after apple fired their senior UX designer, they have totally given up on "don't over complicate", seen with iOS 10

the messages app & widgets is like "WTF"x

I found a bug in the new photos app :D

Stack underflow much

Quill

report it

I had like 15 bugs reported during iOS 9 beta and I never got any replies from Apple about any of them

Helka Homba

@Bigtoes Well I keep notification volume off usually. It could at least be an option

Upgoat

4:24 AM

ik, they get like 1000000000 bug reports tho

wat, there is no bug reporter app

maybe thats only in public beta

Quill

only in beta

Upgoat

i am in beta

Helka Homba

@Quill Apples avoidance of "complicated" things has always irked me. Like not making two button mice standard

Quill

two button mice are standard

Upgoat

@HelkaHomba apples mice suck anyway

Quill

4:31 AM

technically it's one button but they're partitioned

Upgoat

halp, how to rename memori

Quill

Helka Homba

@Quill Not until the 2000's. I went through grade school forced to use one-button Mac mice. I've never trusted Apple since.

Upgoat

questions about beta iOS versions are not allowed there

@HelkaHomba oh my god, that's horrible

Quill

@HelkaHomba ouchie

Upgoat

4:34 AM

you weren't allowed to BYOM?

Helka Homba

@Upgoat Well maybe but that's a hassle

Upgoat

ok

;-; halp, how install homebridge, i tri fo thritee minut but gyp-node rebuild fail

Quill

4:51 AM

oh hey, I bought a link shortener domain that I'll use for SE chat in general

I'll set up the htaccess rules and github it later

feersum

Everyone's always talking about link shorteners, but what about link lengtheners?

Inserts several hundred bytes of random base64 noise in the link.

For those times when you want people to think you are watching them, but don't want to go to the trouble of actually watching them.

Sp3000

5z8.info/stalin_t1a5sq_animated-gifs-of-train-accidents

(shadyurl.com exists, apparently)

Quill

@feersum hmm, not as bad as an idea as I thought it would be

Upgoat

5:17 AM

:D I got homebridge to install

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

5:31 AM

@Quill Gratzi on the diamond!

Quill

:) thanks @DrGreenEggsandIronMan

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I feel dumb. I spelled it wrong, and picked the wrong word: google.com/…

Quill

I thought it was just gratz like congrats and then you accidentally pressed i

Sp3000

@LeakyNun Truthy/falsy depends a lot on the language - 0's not always falsy (although tbh this does get a little confusing for some challenges with truthy/falsy outputs)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

No, I usually accidentally press i at the beginning.

Because my fingers have learned vim better than my brain has.

So how does moderator pro tempore work? Who picks them?

Quill

5:46 AM

Stack Exchange pick the pro tems

hang on, I'll find the blog post

Moderator Pro Tempore

Robert Cartaino on July 27, 2010

There's a bit of a leadership vacuum inside the new Stack Exchange communities in public beta. We've put a lot of responsibility on each group to take ownership of their own site. The Stack Exchange team can act as guide, but we don't always have the domain knowledge to understand the needs of each group. As the Network expands, this stretches our ability to assure that each community's issues are properly addressed.

Dennis

@LeakyNun According to our definition, only true and false are truthy/falsy in Julia.

Btw, did you see my comment on your challenge?

Sp3000

tbh I don't think we've ever gotten over the "what about truthy/falsy of printed values" problem :(

Dennis

True.

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