The Nineteenth Byte

1:00 AM

@Downgoat then adding, say, an array is super easy

pre-expr -> '[' expr-list ']'    // array

oops, I have a bug in expr-list

it allows trailing commas

I specifically tried to design it such that it doesn't

El'endia Starman

Python allows stuff like [1,2,3,] and nothing breaks.

Downgoat

@orlp might I ask how you can write up grammars so quickly? For me I'll take ~10/15 minutes of pen & paper :P

orlp

@El'endiaStarman yes

El'endia Starman

It's even how you do a one-element tuple. (1,)

orlp

@QPaysTaxes what is this 'optional' you speak of?

that's a luxury

not needed

@Downgoat I dno?

experience?

@QPaysTaxes that'd be pointless

EBNF still needs to be translated to what I wrote

who is going to write that translator?

I'm trying to be helpful to downgoat here

and not make the grammar parser too complicated

@QPaysTaxes yes, but can he implement them?

@QPaysTaxes no

@QPaysTaxes the grammar isn't the only thing

the grammar needs to be turned into a parser

so the parser generator must understand optional

and turn them into separate rules

@QPaysTaxes you vastly misunderstand what I'm referring to

@QPaysTaxes you don't just write a grammar to communicate to humans

Geobits

1:07 AM

@Downgoat You be nice to Marky or I'll sic him on your goats again.

orlp

@QPaysTaxes do you know what a 'parser generator' does?

@QPaysTaxes you don't hand-write parsers

@QPaysTaxes because they grow way too complex way too fast

and make changing this incredibly difficult

you write a parser generator, that turns your grammar into a parser

sure

just choose one from this list

Comparison of parser generators

This is a list of notable lexer generators and parser generators for various language classes. == Regular languages == == Deterministic context-free languages == == Parsing expression grammars, deterministic boolean grammars == == General context-free, conjunctive or boolean languages == == Context-sensitive == == See also == Compiler-compiler List of lexer generators == References == == Notes == == External links == The Catalog of Compiler Construction Tools Open Source Parser Generators in Java...

Downgoat

@Geobits evil AI, evil owner...

orlp

@QPaysTaxes your choice

Geobits

@Downgoat Evil is subjective.

Helka Homba

@Geobits Finally, someone not purply red :l

Geobits

1:14 AM

Yes, blue is much more soothing. Red/purple are the colors of anger.

Alex A.

@HelkaHomba hello

._.

Geobits

^ minimal effort applied

Helka Homba

@AlexA. You're just too fowl

orlp

@Geobits _UNK

Geobits

@HelkaHomba What an eggcelent joke.

Your profile image is a JPEG.

Downgoat

1:22 AM

@Geobits animal puns? Toucan play that game...

Helka Homba

@QPaysTaxes Way to accept a gift...

Geobits

All I did was open it and do a hue rotation of the whole thing. I said "minimal effort".

@Downgoat Wow, way to swoop in and join the game.

@QPaysTaxes No, no. You said you were sorry it was red. I fixed your problem :P

@QPaysTaxes Me? Sarcastic? I don't think so.

Downgoat

@Geobits are we going to start doing this aviary day?

Geobits

@Downgoat I hope so, but it sure would be a birden.

Helka Homba

@Geobits I actually laughed on this one :P

El'endia Starman

1:25 AM

I'm just gonna wait for you guys to start parroting each other.

Helka Homba

No. You guys have goat to stop.

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman I have no idea wren that's going to happen >_>

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba Come now, that's robin us of the fun!

Geobits

Yea, that's talon 'im.

Downgoat

@Geobits wow, that pun is going to be hard to beat!

El'endia Starman

1:27 AM

253

Q: /dev/null in Windows?

What is the equivalent of /dev/null in Windows?

windows

Geobits

Unrelated to bird puns? What's this I'm heron?

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I googled "dev null windows".

Downgoat

@Geobits I don't know, this sudden change of subject feels hawkward...

Geobits

@QPaysTaxes Because TNB > Google. We're often swift-er as well.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Of course Jon Skeet is correct. Thank you for stating an obvious and universal truth :) — R. Martinho Fernandes Feb 21 '09 at 3:41

El'endia Starman

1:29 AM

@Geobits ...well dang.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@QPaysTaxes True XD

Helka Homba

What's the shortest alphanumeric (no spaces) string you can Google that returns 0 results?

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman It's NUL, right?

Downgoat

@Geobits wow, you are really talonted at this...

Helka Homba

(I feel I've asked that before.)

Geobits

1:30 AM

@HelkaHomba You have, but not the no spaces part, and it had to be real words.

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat AH-HA! THERE'S THE PARROT!

Geobits

@Downgoat I like to think so, but some of them are ostrich, and hard to swallow.

El'endia Starman

Well, it's a pun on a different word, but still.

Geobits

Well yea, that's one's a bit of a stretch.

Downgoat

@Geobits I am running out of puns, so I guess I'll be winging it...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:31 AM

@HelkaHomba zqæqma

Helka Homba

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no fancy letters

Geobits

@Downgoat Owl let you know if I think of any more.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

:(

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba License plate websites are making this surprisingly hard.

Geobits

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:33 AM

@HelkaHomba zpemvhrQ (disregarding autocorrect)

El'endia Starman

Okay, that's twice now I've had to go to 8 characters. I did get a 6-char one where the last one was a +, but that's not alphanumeric.

Geobits

Also 8: vjyerxss

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

7: zxmqfhq

Geobits

And one damned result for vjyerxs

Downgoat

@Geobits okay, I canopy wasting more time thinking of puns...

Geobits

1:35 AM

@Downgoat I've probably got a few moa, but the list is getting short.

El'endia Starman

Pfft, just osprey and pray!

Helka Homba

We just need to change tropics.

El'endia Starman

Got another 7-char: zqzq6kx

Geobits

Yea, something that stands in stork contrast to birds.

Doorknob

7: 7o0q8xq

Downgoat

1:37 AM

@Geobits let's give the puns a nest for now...

orlp

I'm thinking about making a golf challenge for writing a BOX-256 emulator

El'endia Starman

5 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba License plate websites are making this surprisingly hard.

Geobits

@Downgoat I'm not gull-ible enough to fall for that. As soon as I do, someone will post one for a lark.

El'endia Starman

Anyone want to write a brute-forcer? :P

Helka Homba

Related question: Smallest positive decimal integer (only using digits 0-9, no leading 0's) that gives no results on Google

Geobits

1:39 AM

@HelkaHomba Integer or no?

Helka Homba

int, yes

El'endia Starman

First contender: 987329872345

Geobits

I assume positive as well :P

Doorknob

WHY DO PEOPLE DO THESE THINGS?!

Downgoat

@Geobits I am tired of heron all these bird puns... we should stop

El'endia Starman

1:39 AM

Wow. Lop off the right 5 and there's one result. -_-

Geobits

@Downgoat Is that why you repeated my heron pun???

Downgoat

@Doorknob your caps lock is stuck

Doorknob

> 27283891147 is even number —source

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes Yep, getting those too. Probably won't be able to find a no-results integer with fewer than 10 digits.

Helka Homba

@Doorknob I don't think you can complain if you've ever taken part in a PPCG sequence challenge

Downgoat

1:41 AM

@Geobits oh :| sorry, but this is not emusing anymore

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

For 6-strings, digits minimize results when not placed in the second or third spot.

El'endia Starman

> 27283891970 is odd number

I'll bet there's an int overflow error here.

Doorknob

It has all the evens/odds flipped apparently

Geobits

@Downgoat Sounds like someone's just chicken :P

poi830

all of them?

mightynumbers.com/1.html

El'endia Starman

1:42 AM

Nope, the coder just got it wrong.

poi830

> 1 is even number

Downgoat

@Geobits All these bird puns are really a birden to make

Geobits

-1 repeat

Helka Homba

@El'endiaStarman Smaller: 11384649260 (11 digit)

Downgoat

@Geobits -_- no it isn't

ah shit

Geobits

1:44 AM

20 mins ago, by Geobits

@Downgoat I hope so, but it sure would be a birden.

poi830

lol -+ gives no results

also --

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba Another 11 digits: 77043090936

Helka Homba

6 mins ago, by Helka Homba

Related question: Smallest positive decimal integer (only using digits 0-9, no leading 0's) that gives no results on Google

El'endia Starman

Ooh, right, we're not just after digit count.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Brute force running

and it killed my browser

El'endia Starman

1:46 AM

Stumbled upon a Japan Post tracking number. I wonder if it's valid.

Nope, it's not. :P

Helka Homba

I was about to go look for some math blog that has done this, but then of course... :P

Geobits

I've been hitting tracking numbers too :P

Helka Homba

^

Downgoat

@Geobits this is the most difficult pun I feather come up with

El'endia Starman

Screw these websites that just list thousands of numbers.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:47 AM

5 digits:

0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000‌0000000000000000000000000000000000010003

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes That's a repeat too.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I win.

Geobits

@Downgoat You're really rhea-ching now, aren't you? ;)

Downgoat

12 mins ago, by Geobits

@Downgoat I've probably got a few moa, but the list is getting short.

El'endia Starman

> no leading 0's

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:48 AM

3 digits: 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000‌00000000000000000000000000000000000103

Helka Homba

^^^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman Darn, I've been afk for too long

I thought I was so clever :P

103.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000‌00000000000000000000000000000000000000

still three digits :P

Downgoat

@Geobits Someone please sparrow me from these puns

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba 11272872499 < yours!

Geobits

@Downgoat Why? Afraid you'll go cuckoo?

El'endia Starman

1:49 AM

> integer

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman Tell me that's not an integer.

103 is an integer.

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ that's not an integer

El'endia Starman

While that is equal to an integer, it is not an integer, but rather a float.

Helka Homba

> only using digits 0-9 (i.e. no .)

Downgoat

@Geobits yeah, I don't want to start raven

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:50 AM

It was a joke, people :P

El'endia Starman

...sooner or later, someone's gonna crow victory...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

bai

poi830

my math senses tell me its an integer but my programming senses say its a float

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman I hate it when people ninja me on puns. It makes me want to throw things. So, umm... duck?

Downgoat

@Geobits that totally quacked me up

El'endia Starman

1:51 AM

Improved my 11 digit: ~~11271672499~~ 11271272499

poi830

there are two completely separate conversations going on here with the bird puns and the resultless searches

Geobits

@Downgoat They say laughter's the best medicine, and I'm a practicing physician. I'll send you a bill.

Helka Homba

@El'endiaStarman 11241172469 less ;D

Downgoat

@Geobits Swan we will all run out of puns...

El'endia Starman

@Geobits Need a quill to write with?

poi830

1:53 AM

somebody write a webcrawler to find these

Downgoat

@Quill ^^

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba 11211251499

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman I've got one, so I don't need to be robin yours.

El'endia Starman

@Geobits That's a repeat!

Downgoat

28 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba Come now, that's robin us of the fun!

Geobits

1:54 AM

Really? Well damn.

Even I make booby-headed mistakes I guess.

Quill

@Downgoat wat

Downgoat

@Geobits well, is it still your tern?

Quill

Damn it, I was nearly unpingable here

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat That's a repeat too.

Helka Homba

@El'endiaStarman 11211251117

Downgoat

1:55 AM

@El'endiaStarman damn...

I really egret making all these repeats...

Helka Homba

Try for cheese puns. Is everyone gouda?

Doorknob

11211251009

Geobits

So I guess we're not gonna finch the bird ones?

@QPaysTaxes Never. That's like the cardinal rule.

Helka Homba

@Doorknob ~~10201251009~~ 10201251006

Downgoat

@Geobits puns like these should be ill-eagle

Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop

►

Geobits

1:58 AM

@Downgoat You're so mean. Why must you snipe at me? :(

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes "Conure" is a bird?

Quill

@Downgoat yeah, I'm working on an update at the moment, if you update the script it should fix that. If not, well shit

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes Huh, TIL.

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