The Nineteenth Byte

Solver

8:03 PM

so silent

flawr

you ruined it

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Find point on the Hilbert curve The Hilbert curve space filling curve. It is a limit of recursive approximations. Being spacefilling means there is a parametrization of the curve which is continuous. So we can map the interval [0,1] continuously to the unit square [0,1]x[0,1]. Let us call this m...

Solver

8:22 PM

the nothingness is eternal

Martin Büttner

I'm getting the feeling that if Solver had been around two years ago, 95% of the messages in this chatroom from that time would have been his at 5-minute intervals...

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Solver

@MartinBüttner :P

It keeps TNB alive in it's darkest hours :)

trichoplax

shhh...!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm sorry, was there a non-conversation going on?

Solver

Let's see how long we can be silent. Starting in 3, 2, 1, GO!

trichoplax

8:29 PM

lol

Solver

@trichoplax you ruined it

Morgan 'Venti' Thrappuccino

Good job, trichoplax.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

SHUSH

WTF MAN

trichoplax

Sorry I pressed Enter just as Solver's message appeared... oops.

Solver

nvm

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

8:29 PM

IT'S TOO LATE FOR THAT

trichoplax

Long term silence is unrealistic. Why not go for a compromise like only posting on even minutes?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

naw

trichoplax

Fair enough

Morgan 'Venti' Thrappuccino

Even according to which time zone? Nepal will be mad.

trichoplax

@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino Wow. I didn't realise anyone was an odd number of minutes offset.

Morgan 'Venti' Thrappuccino

8:32 PM

As will Chatham Islands and Eucla.

Zgarb

> This is an approximation of Kathmandu mean time, which is 5:41:16 ahead of UTC.

:O

trichoplax

???

Morgan 'Venti' Thrappuccino

@trichoplax Yeah, I'm super surprised. I would've assumed that everyone was on a round offset.

Optimizer

anyone fan of ed sheeran?

trichoplax

I knew there were half hour offsets but I didn't think it got any more fine grained than that

Morgan 'Venti' Thrappuccino

8:34 PM

Nepal Standard Time

Nepal Standard Time (NST) is the time zone for Nepal. With a time offset from Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) of +5:45, all over Nepal Standard Time is one of only three time zones with a 45-minute offset from UTC. (The others are Chatham Island Standard Time, with an offset of UTC+12:45, and the unofficial Australian Central Western Time, with an offset of UTC+08:45.) NST is an approximation of Kathmandu mean time, which is 5:41:16 ahead of UTC. == See also == UTC+5:45 == References == == External links == Nepali Time Nepali Time and Date with Calendar...

CoolestVeto

Guys, watch this with subtitles on. xD

Markiplier Contemplates a Banana for 5 Minutes

►

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer I am of I See Fire. I don't know if I know any of his other songs. :P

Optimizer

i am trying to figure out this live performance of his ..

but i know only the location.. can't remember the name

which SE chat is full of music lovers?

El'endia Starman

Music.SE's?

Maltysen

@El'endiaStarman aren't they like theory and stuff?

Optimizer

8:36 PM

what is their chat channel?

El'endia Starman

@Maltysen ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Rainbolt

We have separate stack exchanges for Music and Music Fans? That's ridiculous lol

But not nearly as ridiculous as Board and Card Games, Chess, and Poker (the latter two of which are still on topic on Board and Card Games)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

rofl

Maltysen

@Rainbolt of course, the most ridiculous of all is Code Review

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Q_Q

I like CR.

El'endia Starman

8:41 PM

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Phrancis @Quill CR bashing happening.

trichoplax

@Rainbolt Computer Graphics is currently contemplating the arrival of 3D Computer Graphics, which is likely to cause some confusion...

Rainbolt

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I think we all do. But we are obligated to bash them in the spirit of rivalry.

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Optimizer

@El'endiaStarman oh boy, never noticed that thing there

El'endia Starman

And now I have a picture to show anyone and everyone who asks a similar question. :P

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

8:42 PM

@Rainbolt D:

Feb 11 at 1:04, by Calvin's Hobbies

Let's be friends with Code Review.

CoolestVeto

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I mean... he's not wrong.

Optimizer

music chat is silent as hell,

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Feb 11 at 1:05, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin'sHobbies \o/ I'm in. I never had anything against the CR folks.

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Friends !(!=) rivals.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Feb 11 at 1:05, by RikerW

^

Maltysen

8:42 PM

@El'endiaStarman +1 for the freehand writing

Optimizer

they have anonymous bold texts saying 2 days later...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Feb 11 at 1:05, by Seadrus

o_O are you all hippies or something?

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer Almost all chats are far, far quieter than this one.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Optimizer v

14 years later

Solver

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ You betrayer! Code Review is useless.

Rainbolt

8:44 PM

You know what we should do? We should just go to another room for a day and talk there instead.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Solver Q_Q

Maltysen

@Solver ikr, all this blaspheming going around

Solver

(i'm joking)

@Rainbolt Okay.

Optimizer

@El'endiaStarman why is that? even puzzling and CR?

Maltysen

@Rainbolt may I recommend: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/8595/the-2nd-monitor

we can go bash CR there

El'endia Starman

8:45 PM

@Optimizer You mean why are most chats so quiet? I don't really know for sure, actually.

Optimizer

hmm

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Maltysen pls no

Solver

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/38249/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠ_ಠ

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

what?

Solver

8:46 PM

why not :)

Rainbolt

We can talk in Anime, and make the chat scroll so fast that nobody can see the pictures of young cartoon girls. Or we can move to Physics, and raise so many chat flags that every mod on the network will be there to celebrate. Or we can move to Board and Card Games, and everything will be the same except we'll be in another room.

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Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

NOOo

WE HAS THE 21 BYTE!

trichoplax

Surely "better" would be The Eighteenth Byte??

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Rainbolt anime

Maltysen

@Rainbolt but I want to see the the lolis… ;P

Solver

8:47 PM

@trichoplax okay

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

The negative nineteenth byte, i.e. CR

Optimizer

@Rainbolt sounds like Stack Egg all over again!

Phrancis

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Who dare interrupt my SQL queries ಠ_ಠ

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

hey, was trying to save CR.

7 mins ago, by Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

I like CR.

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer Also, compare April 10, 2014, April 10, 2015, and April 10, 2016. Even TNB used to be a lot quieter.

trichoplax

8:48 PM

@Phrancis You perform your SQL queries manually??

El'endia Starman

@Phrancis I heard this in the Genie's voice. :P

Solver

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/38250/…

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Phrancis sowee

Phrancis

@trichoplax You don't?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Phrancis ohai

El'endia Starman

8:49 PM

Oh wait, it wasn't the genie. Trying to find a gif.

trichoplax

@El'endiaStarman Looks like we hit critical mass

Solver

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ from now on i'm going to say sowee

Optimizer

@El'endiaStarman hey, we were growing up.. seems like music is not growing up any more. you can't compare us with them. or are you suggesting that they were this active once too?

El'endia Starman

^ good enough.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Solver sowee

Anonymous

8:50 PM

@Dennis TIO feature request: test suites. Allow a set of inputs to be specified, and output the corresponding outputs.

trichoplax

@Phrancis I don't know SQL, but I assumed you could get a computer to do it for you so it wouldn't need to stop while you read chat messages...

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^^

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer Mostly just saying that it's a mystery. :P

Solver

Thank goodness it isn't quiet:

27 mins ago, by Martin Büttner

I'm getting the feeling that if Solver had been around two years ago, 95% of the messages in this chatroom from that time would have been his at 5-minute intervals...

Maltysen

@Mego Pyth already has that :D

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

8:50 PM

@Solver ikr

Maltysen

I wrote it

El'endia Starman

Though I'll bet a lot of it has to do with the kind of site we have. At least, its theme.

Anonymous

@Maltysen I'm aware

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Maltysen nice!

Solver

@El'endiaStarman Don't you think PPCG is just better?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

8:51 PM

%^

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

Maltysen

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what type of carrot is that?

El'endia Starman

@Solver "better" is ill-defined. :P

Anonymous

@Solver VTC because no objective winning criterion

Solver

@El'endiaStarman &shrugface:

trichoplax

8:52 PM

@El'endiaStarman Indeed - writing short answers means more time for chat

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Maltysen A reciprocal carrot

Solver

@trichoplax lol

Phrancis

@trichoplax it-depends (but yes, often you don't need to deploy a new script just to add or change (or even select) a few rows, so you do end up running SQL manually fairly often, when you do SQL a lot)))))))

Solver

has anyone seen @Downgoat?

Maltysen

@Solver oh yeah I saw him on the farm when I drove by it

trichoplax

8:53 PM

@Phrancis Ah I see. Thanks. No more jokes from me about topics out of my depth :)

Solver

@Maltysen betcha he was red

Maltysen

@Solver he was also upside down

Solver

:)

@trichoplax Why? We're sowee...

Maltysen

calling all close hammers: codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/77606/31343

trichoplax

@Solver Last seen 5 hours ago

Optimizer

8:55 PM

so.. any Ed Sheeran fans?

Solver

@trichoplax aww....

@Optimizer SECOND TIME

no, btw

trichoplax

@Solver Too memified. Cannot parse.

Solver

@trichoplax &whateverface:

8 seconds of silence persist.

Maltysen

@Solver my browser doesn't have that character

Solver

Ampersand? giggles

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

8:57 PM

o_o

Maltysen

@Solver no, &whateverface;

Solver

@Maltysen that was on purpose.

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you mean O_o

Maltysen

@Solver -_- I know it was a joke

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o_o

Solver

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ STILL WRONG!

Phrancis

8:58 PM

You guys are cute

Solver

@Phrancis ???

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Phrancis Welcome back to high school, Mr. SQL.

Phrancis

(in a totally not romantic way)

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Q: Find the result by rewriting and optimizing the code

Task Optimize and rewrite the following code in order to find the result of Z(11223344) and Z(1122334455) Details The code can be rewritten in any desired programming language. The output has to be the right one. The code shouldn't take hours to run. Self-checks: Z(30) = 964452 Z(10000) = ...

code-challenge

Solver

@Phrancis phew!

Phrancis

8:59 PM

@NewMainPosts that looks like a crap Q

Solver

@NewMainPosts fastest close ever.

@Phrancis he's a bot.

Phrancis

@Solver No shit ;p

El'endia Starman

@Solver Not by a long shot.

Maltysen

@Solver no we weren't being fast, its just that NewMainPosts was being slow

Solver

lol

Maltysen

9:01 PM

Doorknob has like a 12 seconds record or something

Solver

so. many. mentions.

Optimizer

Which Ed Sheeran performance is this?

19 mins ago, 18 minutes total – 7 messages, 1 user, 0 stars

Bookmarked 8 secs ago by Optimizer

flawr

For the autostereogram lovers here:

3

An oldie but a goodie.

sauce

Solver

why is no-one here:

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/38249/the-twentieth-byte

trichoplax

@flawr I love that one - seen it in here a while back :)

Solver

9:03 PM

Goodnight!

Optimizer

@flawr at least we do it alike.. (see the room description)

Maltysen

@flawr i don't get it

Optimizer

@Maltysen you know what stereograms are?

Maltysen

no

El'endia Starman

@flawr Oooh, we could base a challenge off of this.

Optimizer

9:05 PM

no we cant

trichoplax

Why not?

Optimizer

too hard to spec-ulate

flawr

@El'endiaStarman @mbomb007 Is trying to do this: meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/8924/24877

trichoplax

Input a depth map and a length in characters before repeat, and output something matching that with real words

Optimizer

@flawr holy shit that image is rad

trichoplax

9:06 PM

@flawr There's something fishy about the first image in that one

El'endia Starman

@flawr Oh cool. I was thinking text-only, but that'd be a good sequel.

Optimizer

still, the spec is too open..

trichoplax

It might be easier to tighten the spec with a text only one

flawr

That is what I suggested.

Feel free to comment too!

trichoplax

@flawr Good point :)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

9:10 PM

rofl

try */ /*

flawr

Why not \o/ /o\ as comments?

Or <_< >_>

Rainbolt

That is trippy

flawr

Or ([ mycomment )] <- this is my favourite.

kill all the parsers

trichoplax

If you want to be confusing, you could use the first character found in the source code as the comment character

Rainbolt

What would the escape character be?

Maltysen

9:13 PM

@Rainbolt the last character in the code

flawr

Escaping with {. Reinprisonng with }.

trichoplax

Maybe two comment characters in a row cause escaping and not commenting

Optimizer

@trichoplax ; comment ;

flawr

@Optimizer How generic.

Maltysen

@Optimizer doesn't scheme actually do that?

flawr

9:14 PM

Whatever the opposite of escaping might be.

As we're already talking about language: Guess what an Eischalensollbruchstellenverursacher is.

Rainbolt

Egg shell!

Dennis

@Mego Consider it status-planned.

flawr

@Rainbolt Good start.

Optimizer

public static void main(String[] args) { comment }

^ Java in nutshell

Rainbolt

NutJavaShell
^ Java in a nutshell

flawr

9:16 PM

@Optimizer But you need a constructor!

Maltysen

@Rainbolt except Java is too nutty to be able to have shells

El'endia Starman

@Maltysen Walnuts have shells.

flawr

interface CommentConstructorFactory

Optimizer

@flawr ugh, no you don't. class yes. constructor - no

Rainbolt

CS 101 for me was C++. We didn't get to Java until we did OOP in the second course

flawr

9:18 PM

No OOP in your C++ course?

Maltysen

@QPaysTaxes it succccckkkks

both Java and the AP Comp Sci ciriculum

Rainbolt

@flawr No. We covered data types, conditionals, loops, arrays... simple stuff like that.

Maltysen

@QPaysTaxes its even titled "Data Structures and Algorithms"

and we learn… out of place shuffling

flawr

@Rainbolt And why would anyone start with C++?

Or C+=1.

Rainbolt

Well for one thing, this was in 2009 (7 years ago), so C++ was a good introductory language at the time.

El'endia Starman

9:21 PM

@Rainbolt I'm guessing "good" in this context means something more like "better than the alternatives". :P

Rainbolt

Well, for example, try teaching pointers in Java. It'll be mostly conceptual. In C++ the notation is in your face.

flawr

I think I was taking my first step in java.

El'endia Starman

In Python, all the pointers are hidden.

flawr

@Rainbolt Well you do not really need those in many language nowadays.

As only few are so close to the hardware.

I just imagined that they are not the most fundamental thing you need when learning programming. All you need is turtles.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@QPaysTaxes bai

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

9:24 PM

BAI

flawr

The same way as probably nobody would recommend learning haskell as a first language.

I like the anagram.

El'endia Starman

Oh wow, I didn't notice the anagram. I got a different joke...

Rainbolt

I've ended up in the unfortunate situation of having to tell someone that, despite our name, programming puzzles really aren't on topic here.

flawr

Well I got the different joke too=)

El'endia Starman

Okay, I was wondering if non-native-English speakers could get it. :P

I guess certain kinds of slang are near-universal... :P

Optimizer

9:29 PM

how can a surgery give melons? does our body grow melons secretly?

Maltysen

@El'endiaStarman ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

El'endia Starman

9:48 PM

Great illustration of general relativity. Time dilation is shown by clocks! :D

Maltysen

why do I get the scifi chat notifications?

Downgoat

@Solver yes

Rainbolt

@Maltysen Are you talking about chat flags, or chat pings?

Optimizer

@El'endiaStarman do we have a proof of that ?

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer Eh?

Rainbolt

9:52 PM

If you visited the room, then people can ping you for some amount of time.
If you have more than 10k network wide, then you see chat flags from all rooms.

Optimizer

as far as i know, astronauts revolving around earth are younger because of the rotation and not gravitation ..

@El'endiaStarman eh eh?

Maltysen

@Rainbolt event notifications

specifically their movie watching events

Rainbolt

Oh, I think you get events from rooms you have been in recently

I can't confirm, but from experience I know I got events from anime for a couple of weeks

The events themselves kept luring me back into the room

Sparr

@Rainbolt hmm, a reason to avoid 10k network-wide...

Cyoce

Nothing wrong with my biology online lab's design at all...

tinypic.com/r/ezlrht/9

Sparr

10:00 PM

I've been considering deleting some of my 100-400 rep accounts just so I get fewer election notifications

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Make a quine without using string literals popularity-contest A quine is a computer program that prints out it's own source code to stdout. Your task is to make one that doesn't use string literals. You cannot: Have any empty program Read your source code directly or indirectly (i.e. form a ...

Optimizer

@Cyoce knew that was coming!

flawr

ndtv.com/video/player/news/…

plane-crash unorthodox-plane-crash

Cyoce

@Optimizer I had a suspicion as soon as I saw that their operator buttons just added the character for that operator to the string.

flawr

Hey, don't remove before I can read!

Cyoce

10:06 PM

@flawr the formatting died.

thanks-se!

Downgoat

10:18 PM

are classes a must-have in a programming language?

Sparr

no

object oriented programming is just one of many paradigms

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

You could do functional!

Literally, if a real language doesn't have some degree of "functional"ness, then I won't use it often

Sparr

or simply procedural

flawr

unfunctional classless

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

dysfunctional classy

flawr

10:20 PM

It also depends how cheesy the name of the language is.

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I was planning for it to be 50% functional 50% OO

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Downgoat :D

Sparr

aim for 60/60 :)

Downgoat

also, any feedback on this?:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Parse a Formal Grammar Given a type-2 formal grammar, and a string, parse the string using the formal grammar and output the matches for the non-terminals. Examples First line is string, following lines are grammar, last line is output, examples are separated by --- 123 n -> any of 0 1 ...

flawr

Well then I think you should read about funcitnal languages.

Downgoat

10:22 PM

> funcitnal

learnyouahaskell.com

funcitnal

tag

The nice thing about language languages is that they are usulaly qutie reudnant

@Downgoat nacht

Downgoat

> usulaly qutie

Zgarb

10:25 PM

@QPaysTaxes In functional languages, you manipulate functions as easily as data. Object orientation means that your data is structured as extendable classes. A language can be both functional and object-oriented.

Downgoat

strawpoll.me/7341811

flawr

Paradigms usually are not mutually exclusive.

Zgarb

@QPaysTaxes Python does. I don't know about C.

flawr

@Downgoat What are animal crackers?

Downgoat

flawr

10:27 PM

@QPaysTaxes You can, but it is quite a pain in the a*Ss.

Downgoat

+1 to everyone who voted for "frosted with sprinkles"

flawr

@QPaysTaxes Fu*ck this censoring sh*it.

Downgoat

@flawr what is that supposed to be uncensored aaSs?

Rainbolt

Ads are starting to creep me out. Just last night I went to Wingstop and called in an order. When I got there, I saw they had a new flavor I wanted to try, and wished I had ordered that instead. Now I have ads for Wingstop all over the place.

I never even went to their website. It was a call in order

How do they know?

flawr

@Rainbolt What are ads? (Adblock edge + some other custom add removers ftw)

Downgoat

10:29 PM

@Rainbolt did you call with an android phone?

Zgarb

@Rainbolt Did you pay with a card?

Rainbolt

@Downgoat I have an LG Accolade VX5600

@Zgarb Yes

flawr

@Rainbolt Those ads where there before and manipulated you into making an order at Wingstop.

Rainbolt

@QPaysTaxes Is that the one with the example that everyone is driving the same car as me? If so, then yea, I think I read about it

Downgoat

@Rainbolt if that's an android phone, it's probably looking at your call history, and sending the data to google

flawr

10:31 PM

@Rainbolt Cyanogenmod ftw!

Rainbolt

It's a flip phone from like 2010 I think

flawr

That headline:

Police constable shows judge “how grenade works” inside courtroom, three injured

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ just a random guess

I know facebook does that

Zgarb

@Rainbolt Some shops have begun sending me ads in the mail after I've bought stuff from them with my card. I guess your web presence won't be much harder to obtain.

flawr

Updates can happen.

CoolestVeto

10:36 PM

Can someone do me a refresh?

flawr

@QPaysTaxes Perhpas they have difficulty with numbers/couting, like I do.

Rainbolt

He wants a mod to refresh his profile

Speaking of which, I'm still an ice block in the spring. I need to update

I'm gonna melt and become beautiful

@QPaysTaxes That is telling. When I look into a puddle, I see only handsome.

3

mınxomaτ

10:52 PM

> In the German-dubbed version seen in Germany, as in the original English version, the Buzzards speak Russian. In the Russian-dubbed version seen in Russia, they speak German. This way, they sound foreign and evil to everyone.

I just read this in the Trivia for Mad Max: Fury Road.

poi830

minichallenge: given an integer, output the first digit after the decimal point of its square root

Maltysen

@poi830 hec`@Q2\.

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what is the thirst for super chilled water called?

Alex A.

Thirst

(I don't think there's a specific English word for it, though I may be wrong)

Which Ed Sheeran performance is this?

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