The Nineteenth Byte

Downgoat

12:00 AM

@phase hav u tri thirtee minut?

phase

@Downgoat wat

Alex A.

@phase uh chown?

phase

@AlexA. I got linux

Kubuntu

Downgoat

> Like any good pancake server, you have X-ray pancake vision

wat.

Alex A.

@phase Yeah, chown is a command

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What are you doing with complex numbers?

Liam

12:00 AM

what was the command that gave that error?

Downgoat

@AlexA. something complex

@QPaysTaxes A lexer lexes

Alex A.

Lexes

Downgoat

it loops over the input and lexes

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Just learning Julia

Downgoat

it like scans the file

> What does a lexer do?

@QPaysTaxes you could of phrased that better

El'endia Starman

12:02 AM

@Downgoat It was somewhat obvious from the previous two statements.

@QPaysTaxes I guess that's correct, but it seems weird.

@QPaysTaxes I did. But I didn't really care that much about a code example. I just wanted a visual representation of the field.

Alex A.

@phase sudo chown -R `whoami` /home/phase

Dr Green Eggs and Ham DJ

Does anyone else here have a problem with checking for SE notifications way too often? If I'm not actively doing anything at the moment, I just have to check at least every 5 minutes. -_-

Downgoat

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ no

El'endia Starman

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ Not me.

Alex A.

@DrGreenEggsandHamDJ I do but usually I'm checking for mod flags.

El'endia Starman

12:07 AM

^ that I do.

Downgoat

@AlexA. on average how many flags/day would you say PPCG gets

Alex A.

lemme look

El'endia Starman

I'mma guess about 5-10.

quartata

@ChrisJester-Young I know the whole point of Chicken Scheme is that it transpiles to C but how advanced is it as a Scheme flavor?

Liam

@phase you might have to change the permissions too. Just owning something doesn't give you permission to read/write it. sudo chmod 777 <path-to-dir> will allow any user to read/write/execute in that directory

quartata

12:07 AM

Racket is awesome but it would be nice to compile to an executable

Alex A.

Looks like we've had 76 in the past week, so I guess roughly 10 a day.

El'endia Starman

yussss

quartata

How many helpful flags though

That's the real question

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

phase

phase@phase-edge:~/dotfiles$ sudo git commit -S -v
gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file `/home/phase/.gnupg/gpg.conf'
gpg: skipped "phase <jadonflower@gmail.com>": secret key not available
gpg: signing failed: secret key not available
error: gpg failed to sign the data
fatal: failed to write commit object

El'endia Starman

12:09 AM

Counting helpful flags would take more work.

Also, C.SE gets about twice as many flags as PPCG.

Downgoat

@AlexA. how many of them are for spam/offensive comments that are helpful?

Alex A.

I don't want to go count

Downgoat

@El'endiaStarman is that a good thing or a bad thing

@AlexA. tell SE to give me a diamond and I'll do it :P

Alex A.

hah

El'endia Starman

@Downgoat Eh, neither, I think.

Alex A.

12:11 AM

@phase Don't sudo git commit, also did you run the chown thing I said earlier?

El'endia Starman

Also, I actually suspect there are more flags cast that are handled by the community via review queues.

Alex A.

sudo chown -R `whoami` /home/phase

Downgoat

@phase that happened to me once I think

try deleting the git file

and recloning from http

Alex A.

@phase lel is that actually your last name? I thought the o and l were swapped.

phase

@Downgoat It's a repo I just created

@AlexA. You're correct, I just wanted a fun email :3

Alex A.

12:13 AM

haha

phase

without the sudo works now but the gpg key isn't

yasss id ididid it

github isn't working now...

phase@phase-edge:~/dotfiles$ git push -u github.com/phase/dotfiles master
Username for 'https://github.com': phase
Password for 'https://phase@github.com':
remote: Invalid username or password.
fatal: Authentication failed for 'https://github.com/phase/dotfiles/'

How do I login with 2fa?

Alex A.

Set up your local as a remote for the GitHub one

Did you do that?

And setup your Git locally to use the GitHub credentials?

phase

I haven't setup github credentials

Through the command line

You must create a personal access token to use as a password when authenticating to GitHub on the command line using HTTPS URLs.

Alex A.

git config

phase

I setup the email and username

Alex A.

12:20 AM

git config --list

Does everything look right?

phase

yyyyup

It all good

Alex A.

help.github.com/articles/caching-your-github-password-in-git

epicTCK

I just spent an hour trying to figure out a problem with my google code jam output that looked the same as the test cases, and realised that I spelled something wrong. AGGGG!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

gg

That moment when you're about to implement something big in your parser and are stalling to execute it...

epicTCK

wait right now is the qualification round so we can talk about problems right?

@ChrisJester-Young cant get mine to work rn

Mars Ultor

12:36 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MarsUltor :P

Alex A.

@epicTCK I think folks are discussing in the #gcj2 channel on Freenode

Mars Ultor

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ execute?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yeah

epicTCK

@AlexA. well there isnt much discussing going on right now on IRC so

Alex A.

12:40 AM

Oh didn't know

Mars Ultor

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ as in have a REPL running before finishing the language?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MarsUltor no, as in getting the result

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Scared it'll blow up? :P

Or just fail in general.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

yeah :P It's already happen twice

El'endia Starman

Yeah well that's what programs do. :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:43 AM

:P

quartata

I asked a similar question about JS three days ago.

Downgoat

@QPaysTaxes true

quartata

I don't think there is

@Downgoat ...

Downgoat

oh

I thought you meant when compared with true

El'endia Starman

Hey, those of you with significant others (@AlexA., @ChrisJester-Young, @Dennis, uhhh... @Zgarb? @mınxomaτ? @othersWhoApply), my fiancée suggested to me a few months ago that I should write a blog post on something like "what you should know if you're going to marry a programmer". I've been mulling over the idea for some time, and I'm gonna start soliciting input from other programmers. So, if you were to write such a blog post, what would you include?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:47 AM

If you wrote an interpreter in three minutes you'd basically have pHP

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ no, you'd have brainfuck

quartata

JS was written in 10 days

Literally

So, yeah.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

El'endia Starman

@QPaysTaxes Apparently so.

Downgoat

@quartata [citation-needed]

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:48 AM

^

Perl was what happened when someone tried to make brainfuck general purpose

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Downgoat

hahaha

Being made quickly doesn't mean bad. Pretty sure you made your account for PPCG in under 30 minutes

epicTCK

CORRECT!! yeah! does happy dance

El'endia Starman

Who takes 30 minutes to make an SE account?!

Dennis

@El'endiaStarman (I'm probably the wrong person to ask about this since I never have written a blog post.) It sounds like she would be a more suitable person to write this, as it isn't directed to programmers, but their partners.

quartata

JavaScript

JavaScript (/ˈdʒɑːvəˌskrɪpt/) is a high-level, dynamic, untyped, and interpreted programming language. It has been standardized in the ECMAScript language specification. Alongside HTML and CSS, it is one of the three essential technologies of World Wide Web content production; the majority of websites employ it and it is supported by all modern Web browsers without plug-ins. JavaScript is prototype-based with first-class functions, making it a multi-paradigm language, supporting object-oriented, imperative, and functional programming styles. It has an API for working with text, arrays, dates and...

linked to section "Beginnings at NetScape"

Downgoat

12:51 AM

> JavaScript was originally developed in 10 days

quartata

> JavaScript was originally developed in 10 days in May 1995 by Brendan Eich,

Downgoat

that was like the very original version

it's been in work for like a decade now

quartata

The language has not really changed significantly until ES6

Mars Ultor

Fun fact: Brendan Eich was a co-founder of the Mozilla Foundation

quartata

So.. yep.

Dennis

12:52 AM

> JavaScript was originally developed in 10 days. Since then, considerable effort was spent in making it weirder. In particular, its typecasting is the source of constant headaches and running jokes in programming communities all over the world.

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Downgoat

@quartata that is not true

PhiNotPi

@AlexA. Also, I'm currently making Phigs in Java.

A big step down from Perl, I know.

quartata

@Downgoat By "changed significantly" I'm referring specifically to the parts that suck

I know there's a lot of minor changes between ECMA versions

Some very good ones

like lexical scoping in functions

But... then there's also the things that never changed that really, really should have

@PhiNotPi what

why aren't you making it in Perl

you monster

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

another js debate/bash? really? this is getting real old

Dennis

7 mins ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Perl was what happened when someone tried to make brainfuck general purpose

Ahem.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:56 AM

Perl bashing doesn't happen as often

quartata

That's false

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

really?

Alex A.

@El'endiaStarman I don't really have any frame of reference so I don't know how it would be different from marrying anybody else, programmer or not.

Dennis

Oh, come on! People were bashing Perl before there even was a JavaScript.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

not in here :P

quartata

12:57 AM

Every time someone mentions a gripe about JS it seems like someone has to take a stab at some other language (usually Perl)

PhiNotPi

@quartata ¯\(°_o)/¯

quartata

Why can't we all just get along lol

Alex A.

@Dennis Perl is the original garbage language

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata I'm down for that.

Mars Ultor

Perl > PHP

Alex A.

12:57 AM

@PhiNotPi Nice! :D

PhiNotPi

@MarsUltor There's really nobody here to argue with that.

Dennis

@MarsUltor Actual feces are better than PHP.

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Alex A.

e.g. JavaScript

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MarsUltor Most everything satisfies the left hand of that inequality

quartata

I think the one thing Perl and JS both have in common is that they're both so misunderstood

Mars Ultor

12:58 AM

But apparently the newest version of PHP is a lot better because they finally have OOP

quartata

@PhiNotPi uh I will I love PHP

Mars Ultor

But

Alex A.

@Dennis PHP is Pretty Horrible Poop.

Kenny Lau

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Q: Find the program that prints this integer sequence (Cops' thread)

This is the cops' thread. The robbers' thread goes here. The last cops-and-robbers thread was already 4 months ago. The cop's task The cop's task is to write a program/function that takes a positive (or non-negative) integer and outputs/returns another number (not necessarily integer). The co...

cops-and-robbers

quartata

You're using PHP wrong if you need OOP

Alex A.

12:59 AM

You're writing PHP wrong if you're writing PHP

Mars Ultor

I know. node > python server > PHP

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