The Nineteenth Byte

quintopia

8:00 PM

@Dennis i feel like most people are smart enough to strip away the exec and see what it unzips to :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quintopia Thanks! I'll take a look.

Jan Dvorak

@quintopia I would say most people are too lazy to.

quintopia

@JanDvorak true. which is why no one has said anything about it until now.

g2g

Jan Dvorak

@quintopia does... anybody actually code in that?

I've had trouble implementing basic control structures in BF and this seems even worse.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

esolangs.org/wiki/Etre

@Jan this is infinitely worse >_>

Morgan Thrapp

8:04 PM

How do you decide which languages to add to TIO? I'd love to get mine included, if for no other reason than to stop having to find the github link every time I post an answer.

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Traffic Light Simulator 2016 In this challenge, you are in charge of all of the traffic lights in a busy city. It is your goal to move the traffic as efficiently as possible. Definitions: City: Everything you control. Contains a 10x10 square grid of intersections. All adjacent intersections...

Nathan Merrill

^ that was fast

Zgarb

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Bitwise cyclic tag may be easier.

Alex A.

Bicycle

Zgarb

Bicycle tag. Sounds like a dangerous outdoor game.

TimmyD

8:10 PM

@Zgarb Bitwise Cycling Tag sounds like some weird game of tag played on bicycles.

Pseudo-ninja'd

Roujo

That feeling when you cut your byte count by 26% a month after the fact because you discover a feature in your language that you didn't know about =D

Martin Büttner

Now with words.

@MorganThrapp I think you want to ping Dennis with that question. I think he generally adds any language he can get to run on his server if you ask nicely.

trichoplax

@AlexA. You had me thinking Calvin's Hobbies had left again, but I see it's actually just an upgrade as part of graduation. Looking forward to seeing what the rest of us upgrade to!

Alex A.

@trichoplax When the site graduates, we all evolve in to our final forms.

Dennis

@MorganThrapp Most have been added per request.

ArtOfCode

8:18 PM

You know you lot have cast half a million votes? That's... quite a lot.

El'endia Starman

@ArtOfCode I wonder if we have the highest votes-to-content ratio of any site. :P

Doorknob

@AlexA. My evolution was a bit early. Maybe I just knew it was coming.

Alex A.

@Doorknob Maybe you'll evolve again to go back to 6/10 on the phallus scale.

Doorknob

ಠ_ಠ

Jason did a thing with that... I'll just leave a link here, very mildly nsfw: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/4618261#4618261

Thijs ter Haar

@Dennis I get a 0 when I run that command?

El'endia Starman

8:21 PM

Ooh, new like-icons on Facebook...

@Doorknob MY EYES!!!

Morgan Thrapp

@Dennis If you get the chance, I'd love if you could add pylons. It's finally at a semi-stable state where I'm not constantly updating it.

ArtOfCode

@El'endiaStarman Define 'content' and I'll run those stats. Questions and answers?

TimmyD

@MartinBüttner Awesome. And excellent explanation, too.

Martin Büttner

thanks :)

Lynn

2

Jellyy~~

Thijs ter Haar

8:23 PM

@Dennis Nvm, I understand what you mean now.

trichoplax

@ArtOfCode Also do downvotes count as positive or negative for this report?

El'endia Starman

@ArtOfCode Hmmmm. I think that's a pretty good start. Questions and answers. Or perhaps just answers since we have a pretty high answers/questions ratio.

Martin Büttner

@Lynn Ctrl+Enter

ArtOfCode

@trichoplax I'm counting absolutely all votes in that half a million. Favorites, up, down, close, delete, reopen, undelete... I can't actually remember what they all are. With only up and down votes... we'll see what we get.

Lynn

Oh, wow. That's useful

ArtOfCode

8:25 PM

I'll run it through just as soon as I've finished processing CR's database...

Lynn

Thanks!

Alex A.

@ArtOfCode Going to yell some SQL at SEDE?

ArtOfCode

@AlexA. Nah, yell some SQL at my local database

Martin Büttner

@Lynn also works for Kill

ArtOfCode

The one with the data dump in it

Alex A.

8:26 PM

@ArtOfCode yas

Morgan Thrapp

<h1>SELECT things FROM stuff WHERE conditions</h1>

SQL.

ArtOfCode

I've only got 10 sites in it so far and it's already up to 2 and a bit gig.

Dennis

@quintopia purple.tryitonline.net/… aubergine.tryitonline.net/… UberGenes has calls to eval and exec. I don't understand the source code well enough to know if that's a problem.

Thijs ter Haar

Fixed it :D

@Dennis

Was a very small mistake :P

I had the '0[' to empty the stack (because there was still a zero in it), but I somehow jumped after the [ instead of before the 0

ETHproductions

Can one more user please upvote this post so ETHbot can participate in chat? Thanks.

Thijs ter Haar

8:29 PM

And that was the zero you saw printer

How did you notice it?

ETHproductions

Thank you :)

Morgan Thrapp

No problem.

ETHproductions

How long does it take to update? It's still telling me I need 20 rep.

Dennis

@ThijsterHaar Deleting the first character now prints a space, then goes into an infinite loop.

Thijs ter Haar

Aah dangit hahaha

Dennis

8:33 PM

$ cjam <(echo 'q__,,\f{QtN}\N') < quine.fish | while IFS= read; do echo -n "$REPLY" > temp.fish; diff -s <(python fish.py temp.fish) temp.fish; done

ArtOfCode

@ETHproductions ages, in some cases. Caching, of course. It can be up to 48 hours.

TimmyD

So we've graduated, and we're now down to 4 new questions in the past 24 hours. ಠ_ಠ ... @AlexA.'s prediction that we can get back to slacking is true ...

Thijs ter Haar

Oh something went wrong while copy pasting the code, not a programming mistake ;)

ArtOfCode

@ETHbot ping

Thijs ter Haar

Accidentally copied an old revision

ETHproductions

8:35 PM

Bummer :( ETHbot still got the ping though

Jan Dvorak

@TimmyD That was a command

Alex A.

strawpoll.me/6910257

ArtOfCode

@ETHproductions But I'm feeling nice, so ETHBot can have access here now ;)

There y'are

Alex A.

@ArtOfCode In general we don't want bots in The Nineteenth Byte

Thijs ter Haar

@Dennis NOW it has to work hahaha

ArtOfCode

8:36 PM

@ETHproductions ^ where were you thinking of running this?

Thijs ter Haar

But I've just discovered Gol><> and appearently I need to learn that

ArtOfCode

@AlexA. and have them you shall not

ETHproductions

@ArtOfCode In Beep Boop Maggot

I'm definitely not running it in here

TimmyD

@AlexA. Interesting results so far.

ETHproductions

I'm just trying to get the account into chat

El'endia Starman

8:39 PM

@ThijsterHaar @Sp3000 will be so proud. :)

ArtOfCode

@ETHproductions done, ETHBot should have access there

Jan Dvorak

@AlexA. not even Caprica?

ETHproductions

Wow, 5 upvotes? O_o

Alex A.

@TimmyD Fascinating

ETHproductions

@ArtOfCode Thanks, it works :)

ArtOfCode

8:39 PM

cool

ETHproductions

in Beep Boop Maggot, 16 secs ago, by Marky Markov

@ETHbot ಠ_ಠ

2

Marky's first words to ETHbot

Kevin W.

@AlexA. Is this smoking regularly? Or should occasionally count.

Martin Büttner

@AlexA. Not that it would have changed my answer, but it's missing an "only shisha/hookah" option (I'm guessing that's not what you implied by "other things..." :P)

Alex A.

@KevinW. I'd count occasionally as yes

@MartinBüttner "Other things" is a broad term. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Martin Büttner

yeah, but "other things..." isn't :D

Kevin W.

8:41 PM

@MartinBüttner Shisha should fall under the tobacco umbrella, no?

Dennis

@MorganThrapp You must construct additional Pylons.

Morgan Thrapp

@AlexA. Oh. Apparently, I should change my answer then.

Martin Büttner

@KevinW. I guess... probably also not what he meant though

Morgan Thrapp

@Dennis Thanks! Much appreciated.

ETHproductions

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Oh, awesome! What command is this?

Alex A.

8:42 PM

@MartinBüttner Oh, yeah, I forgot that it was tobacco. Yeah, I'd call it tobacco.

Morgan Thrapp

And, (because I have to be that guy), what should vaping count as?

mınxomaτ

Best logo ever.

Dennis

     146 Files /dev/fd/63 and temp.fish are identical

Martin Büttner

@mınxomaτ damn that's good

2

Dennis

@ThijsterHaar \o/

TimmyD

8:43 PM

@mınxomaτ Looks like some place where they don't print the prices on the menu.

Thijs ter Haar

Haahaha I'm so glad

Thank you for your patience @Dennis

El'endia Starman

^ why we have a kneecap!

Martin Büttner

Cool, so now that the ><> code works... if reading the source code is disallowed for quines... is writing it allowed? :P

Thijs ter Haar

Haha that was my question when I started the 2nd version

but

When I read on the internet where the term 'True quine' comes from

It seems to me like it was just someone thinking 'reading source code is too easy'

instead of 'using reflection shouldn't be done with a true quine'

Dennis

@VoteToClose Back already?

Thijs ter Haar

8:47 PM

Anyway, I had fun puzzling for the answer haha

trichoplax

@mınxomaτ It took me several seconds of staring to realise how amazing this is...

Martin Büttner

@ThijsterHaar it's really hard to nail down a proper definition of what a true quine should be... we've tried... (and only partiall succeeded)

but I think you can normally tell a proper quine from a cheating one by whether it has the self-referential aspect with which Hofstadter introduced in GEB.

PhiNotPi

@Dennis VTC just asked to be de-suspended

El'endia Starman

I remember reading GEB in 9th grade. Good book.

trichoplax

@PhiNotPi That would defeat the purpose...

PhiNotPi

8:50 PM

> VTCAKAVSMoACE - Today at 3:48 PM
> @PhiNotPi Mind doing me a huge favor and asking Dennis to de-suspend me now? 😛 I finished all of my work.

Dennis

@PhiNotPi Yeah, I realized that when he kept popping to the front of recently active users. :P

trichoplax

@PhiNotPi That's just what I'd say if I was giving in..

Martin Büttner

^

El'endia Starman

Wow, VTC did 3 days of work in 2 days because he couldn't visit this chat.

7

Dennis

Welcome back, @VoteToClose.

Morgan Thrapp

8:54 PM

~~Oh god VTC is back~~ Welcome back, VTC!

PhiNotPi

> VTCAKAVSMoACE - Today at 3:54 PM
> @PhiNotPi And maybe refresh my chat profile? 😛

Dennis

Quick, everybody stop badmouthing Vitsy.

@PhiNotPi I already did. Blame caching.

ArtOfCode

> This user is suspended on the parent site and cannot chat for 21 hours 24 minutes.

Dennis

Well, I could just give him into adoption.

Alex A.

@ArtOfCode #rekt

@Dennis You're going to adopt VTC? Awww

Dennis

8:57 PM

give

Alex A.

So you're going to put him up for adoption?

RIP VTC

Dennis

@VoteToClose You're SO's problem now. Welcome back for realsies.

VoteToClose

\o/

Aqua Tart

I don't think it's a coincidence that we graduated as soon as we suspended @VoteToClose.

20

El'endia Starman

Welcome back! :D

VoteToClose

8:58 PM

@El'endiaStarman The saddest bit is that this is actually true; 2 8-page essays, APCS packages, and a Spanish video. :P

Ohhh it's so good to be back. :D

msh210

Ton Hospel was a top-notch golfer back in the day, though apparently he hasn't competed much of late. I wonder whether new user Ton Hospel is really him or just chose the name as a tribute.

Anonymous

@msh210 This is not the greatest golfer in the world, no. This is just a tribute.

msh210

@Mego Well, I don't know about greatest in the world, but certainly a great one.

(I mean, the real Ton.)

Anonymous

(Tenacious D reference)

Alex A.

Dam Son. I haven't heard Tenacious D since the 8th grade.

Anonymous

9:02 PM

Oh neat I mortarboarded

msh210

@Mego Ah.

Aqua Tart

@msh210 I think it might be him. That one ASCII art Perl answer is really really good.

Very subtle.

TimmyD

Apparently this is the hip & happening place for Blues to hang out.

ETHproductions

in Beep Boop Maggot, 25 secs ago, by ETHbot

@MarkyMarkov I'm not sure how to use his account for now you try it

Planning a takeover of my account, apparently

Alex A.

._.

Anonymous

9:04 PM

@TimmyD da ba dee da ba die

TimmyD

@Mego Oh that's evil

Anonymous

Songs I've referenced so far:

Anonymous

Tenacious D - Tribute

►

Anonymous

(warning: explicit)

Anonymous

Eiffel 65 - Blue (Da Ba Dee) (Original Video with subtitles)

►

trichoplax

9:07 PM

...

msh210

@AquaTart Also some others of his.

VoteToClose

@Mego I remember this song.

Anonymous

From before your exile?

VoteToClose

ಠ_ಠ

trichoplax

How do I use a bookmark after making it??

VoteToClose

9:08 PM

Click it.

msh210

@AquaTart I've been trying to figure out codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/74041 and have no idea what's going on. What the heck is v0?? And he uses *_ , which is a nice Hespel touch.

trichoplax

@VoteToClose It said bookmark created, but there's now nothing to click to copy it... :(

VoteToClose

Feb 20 at 23:13, by Alex A.

Click harder

@trichoplax What browser?

trichoplax

@VoteToClose Firefox

Anonymous

9:10 PM

:o what happened to your rep?

Anonymous

Are we talking browser bookmarks or chat bookmarks?

VoteToClose

D:

trichoplax

Chat bookmarks - I probably should have specified that...

VoteToClose

@GEOBITS

Anonymous

Oh there it is

Geobits

9:11 PM

Umm... yes?

Anonymous

It must have taken it away from you while you were suspended

trichoplax

@VoteToClose Did you go on a bounty spending spree???

VoteToClose

Lol, yeah. :P

39 secs ago, by VoteToClose

ಠ_ಠ

jkjk

;)

<3

Geobits

Oh, sorry. I went a bit far with the downvoting I guess.

VoteToClose

ಠ_ಠ

Geobits

9:12 PM

So has it really been three days? >_>

VoteToClose

@Geobits ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

downvoting

2 mins ago, 1 minute total – 15 messages, 4 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 5 secs ago by Mego

RikerW

@VoteToClose oh god what happened

Did geobits downvote everything?

trichoplax

So does anyone know how to copy a chat bookmark after creating it?

quintopia

@Dennis it works by constructing python expressions and statements equivalent semantically to the given ubergenes source. It's so much more convenient than a giant switch statement. But I can add input sanitization later

VoteToClose

9:13 PM

@RikerW lel suspension removes all of the rep you have.

Anonymous

@trichoplax When it says "bookmark X has been created" in the notification, the X is a link

VoteToClose

Replaces it when it's over.

Geobits

@VoteToClose Well it does... :P

trichoplax

@Mego lol I closed the notification... Thanks I will try again :)

RikerW

@VoteToClose ಠ_ಠ

Geobits

9:14 PM

@trichoplax I think the room info has links to "conversations" which would help.

VoteToClose

wat

RikerW

@trichoplax DONT

Anonymous

I did that bookmark because I was trying to record it for an explanatory gif

Anonymous

But OBS decided that recording is for losers and instead here's a black video

ETHproductions

ETHbot is getting about 10 chat notifications every minute

It's gonna be fun when I recieve my email in 2.5 hours

trichoplax

9:15 PM

@RikerW I'm not actually going to paste a bookmark anymore - it was trivial and the moment has passed...

RikerW

Okay.

It should be saved in the room info page.

trichoplax

I now know for future though...

VoteToClose

> ~~2.5 hours~~ 6 to 8 weeks

ETHproductions

ಠ_ಠ

That'd be about 1000x worse

mınxomaτ

I visited a high frequency trading floor yesterday. Their network interfaces are insane. They're basically designing their own ethernet PCI-E cards and write the most minimal drivers possible to achieve packet transfer delays (to the stock market servers) as little as 80µs (with just 10µs tolerance). The algorithms will actually start transmitting a few ms before the market even opens, just to be the first that is processed.

RikerW

9:17 PM

Woah.

Dennis

@VoteToClose You missed a few, constructive discussions. Like this one:

2 days ago, by Geobits

Vitsy sounds like something you'd name a dog that lives in a purse.

TimmyD

6*7*24 = 1008 hours to 8*7*24 = 1344 hours ... not quite 1000x

RikerW

@ETHproductions Nope, about 470.5 times worse.

ninja'ed.

trichoplax

@RikerW Thanks! You saved me from cluttering the room info with duplicate bookmarks...

...

RikerW

dangit

VoteToClose

9:17 PM

@Dennis See reply on this message

RikerW

@VoteToClose for the record, I disagree with @Geobits.

Doorknob

Surprisingly, we don't have "tips for golfing in Rust."

VoteToClose

\o/

TimmyD

@mınxomaτ HFT is insane. The money that goes into the technology to shave the smallest fractions of a second is ridiculous.

Morgan Thrapp

@Doorknob Tip 1: Use Java instead.

Doorknob

9:19 PM

ಠ_ಠ

New Main Posts

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Q: Locate and rotate

The task This is a simple challenge. Your input is a single non-empty string, containing only digits 0123456789 and hashes #. It will contain exactly one run of digits, which encodes a nonnegative integer and may wrap around the end of the string, and at least one #. The integer may have leading...

Roujo

ಠ_ಠ

VoteToClose

@MorganThrapp morgan-is-wrong

RikerW

^

mınxomaτ

@TimmyD I'm waiting for the day when their bodges network infrastructure fails all at once. grabs popcorn

VoteToClose

9:19 PM

And I wrote Vitsy in Java. >.>

RikerW

morgan-is-wronger-than-alex. R and julia are at least somewhat golfy.

Morgan Thrapp

I like Rust, but dear lord is it verbose.

RikerW

^

Except the 'I like' part.

Justin

@El'endiaStarman I have literally no understanding of what this means.

trichoplax

How about "Tips for choosing the appropriate golfing language for a challenge"?

3

RikerW

9:20 PM

@Justin Me niehtr.

@trichoplax I like that.

TimmyD

2010 Flash Crash

The May 6, 2010, Flash Crash also known as The Crash of 2:45, the 2010 Flash Crash or simply the Flash Crash, was a United States trillion-dollar stock market crash, which started at 2:32 and lasted for approximately 36 minutes. Stock indexes, such as the S&P 500, Dow Jones Industrial Average and Nasdaq Composite, collapsed and rebounded very rapidly. The Dow Jones Industrial Average had its biggest intraday point drop (from the opening) up to that point, plunging 998.5 points (about 9%), most within minutes, only to recover a large part of the loss. It was also the second-largest intraday point...

RikerW

gtg

VoteToClose

@trichoplax This actually wouldn't be so bad. >.>

trichoplax

Maybe someone else should post it though, since I'm not a golfer...

ETHproductions

> # Use Jelly \n\n You'll win 99% of the time.

Sherlock9

9:22 PM

@LuisMendo You may be right. I actually haven't thought of a decent solution for complex inputs, with or without built-ins, i.e. I have yet to find a built-in for the beta function that works with complex inputs

El'endia Starman

@Justin You included yourself among the mods.

VoteToClose

So what should I put in my Vitsy IDE?

Adnan

@trichoplax For math challenges, probably Jelly or MATL

Sherlock9

I could use the Lanczos approximation, but I don't know if there's another possible solution besides that.

ETHproductions

Uh, @Geobits? I think Marky has a problem. He's refusing to talk to ETHbot.

But seriously, he isn't responding anymore, except to that one message.

Sherlock9

9:26 PM

Even Mathematica only gives me Beta[i, i] for the input Beta[i, i]. Wolfram Alpha will answer it but no other calculator, built-in, etc. has yet

VoteToClose

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ?

New Main Posts

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Q: Tips for golfing in Rust

While Rust is very, very rarely competitive in code golfing competitions (Java is often shorter), it can still be fun to golf in. What are some tricks for making Rust code shorter? Please post only one tip in each answer.

code-golf tips

0

Q: Tips for choosing the appropriate language for golfing

Some languages are better suited than others for a particular task. Bubblegum is good at string compression, and not much else. Python is good at lots of stuff, but not short overall. What are some tips about choosing the right language to use for a specific type of problem? 1 idea per answ...

code-golf tips

Martin Büttner

@RikerW surely that question must have been the first on the list of related questions when you were posting this one?

VoteToClose

kek

Sherlock9

Also, welcome back VTC

VoteToClose

9:29 PM

\o/ Thanks!

Roujo

2 minutes to close. Ouch =P

msh210

@AquaTart He claims to be him.

ETHproductions

in Beep Boop Maggot, 3 mins ago, by ETHbot

@MarkyMarkov _UNK of Pyth is your account!!!!!!!!!

Martin Büttner

@Doorknob does closure syntax actually use 5 < in Rust? o.O

Alex A.

If so, that's the most absurd shit

mınxomaτ

9:31 PM

@TimmyD The next five minutes from this timestamp on are really interesting insights into the "first" ""H""FT machine (from the inventor).

VoteToClose

...

in Beep Boop Maggot, 59 secs ago, by ETHbot

@MarkyMarkov I'm not sure how to do you guys!!

This question has an entire page of deleted answers.

ETHproductions

@VoteToClose This one has 2.5.

VoteToClose

Fair enough. o-o

Anonymous

Man, I had the shortest answer on Zgarb's new challenge for about 2 minutes

Anonymous

And then Jelly happened

ETHproductions

9:39 PM

As always

VoteToClose

16 mins ago, by VoteToClose

So what should I put in my Vitsy IDE?

Any input?

Doorknob

@MartinBüttner uhhhhh

where did that come from -_-

zero <s, in fact

Martin Büttner

haha, okay. I'm somewhat relieved

yingluck

Doorknob

I must have had the focus on the wrong window when trying to type somewhere else or something...

Luis Mendo

@Sherlock9 I thought it might be only Matlab. But if it happens in other languages, the complex challenge will be too difficult. Anyway, you could always post it later

I mean, if you post the real (or integer) one, you can always extend to complex in a new challenge

Sherlock9

9:44 PM

That's fair. I have a deleted Sandbox post that used to be "Part One" where I dealt with only integers. I'll shunt the complex formulation over there for now, and work on rewriting to only deal with real inputs

Anonymous

@LuisMendo As I commented on the complex one when it was in the sandbox, that wouldn't add much to the challenge in many languages

flawr

What do you guys think of the discussion here:

As far as I am aware ans would count as hardcoding inputs into variables and does not seem to be an accepted input method for code-golf. In that case, please make a full program or a function. — flawr 13 hours ago

Luis Mendo

@Mego Do you mean the complex case is a small extension of the real case? Well, not in Matlab. At least I don't see how

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@VoteToClose ?

Anonymous

@LuisMendo Most languages that have complex number support would also have a Gamma builtin for part 1. Chances are, that Gamma builtin also works for complex values.

Anonymous

9:47 PM

Python is the sole exception I can think of

Luis Mendo

@Mego That's what I thought. But not in Matlab. gamma only accepts real values

ETHproductions

in Beep Boop Maggot, 1 min ago, by ETHbot

@MarkyMarkov Idiots.

in Beep Boop Maggot, 59 secs ago, by Marky Markov

@ETHbot Thanks!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@mbomb007 What would help you with your solution to Evolution?

flawr

@flawr any thoughts?

Anonymous

@LuisMendo That's unexpected. I would expect Matlab/Octave, out of all the languages, to have a complex gamma builtin

Luis Mendo

9:49 PM

@Mego Yeah. I was surprised too

Anonymous

@flawr Last night I said I agreed

Luis Mendo

>> gamma(1-2j)
Error using gamma
Input must be real and full.

flawr

@Mego Yes I remember=) I was hoping to get opinions also from other ppl=)

Luis Mendo

Same with gammaln

And beta calls gammaln

@flawr Opinions on what? A challenge?

Anonymous

Huh, it works in Sage. Dibs.

Anonymous

9:51 PM

sagecell.sagemath.org/…

flawr

@LuisMendo No

mbomb007

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I might need to know ahead of time what you can change. Or you'd need to know what I'm trying to do.

flawr

@LuisMendo on the discussion here:

As far as I am aware ans would count as hardcoding inputs into variables and does not seem to be an accepted input method for code-golf. In that case, please make a full program or a function. — flawr 13 hours ago

Luis Mendo

@Mego Nice!

mbomb007

Do you require the quotes around Hello World!?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

9:53 PM

In my answer, yeah.

codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/74104/31957

Here's what I have, I accidentally hit enter :P

Martin Büttner

Okay, with the latest improvement to my Labyrinth quine I'm not fairly confident I can write the first Hexagony quine (which I'll probably tackle later this week). I'm taking bets how small it's going to be. Ping me if you have a guess. (I'll come up with a prize for the closest guess later.)

Sherlock9

@Mego I can't open the page for some reason

Anonymous

@MartinBüttner 120 bytes

Martin Büttner

you are very optimistic :D

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@MartinBüttner 273 bytes.

Luis Mendo

9:54 PM

@flawr Looks like a function should be used instead?

Sherlock9

@MartinBüttner I'm going to say, 1296 bytes, because that's a nice heximal number

Anonymous

@Sherlock9 vOv do you have js enabled?

flawr

@LuisMendo I think so too. Or a full program.

Sherlock9

@Mego 502 Bad Gateway error, so I don't think it's JS

Luis Mendo

@flawr Also, I don't understand TI Basic byte count

Anonymous

9:55 PM

It's working fine for me

Anonymous

@LuisMendo The multi-character tokens are usually 1 or 2 bytes

VoteToClose

32 mins ago, by VoteToClose

So what should I put in my Vitsy IDE?

mbomb007

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Add a blank line after put", and change the a to ^

That would be enough.

flawr

@MartinBüttner What is your opinion on this?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@mbomb007 Hm... lemme see if that works still

Still works!

Anonymous

9:56 PM

Look at it like TI-BASIC uses a custom code page with certain ASCII strings as the code points

ETHproductions

@VoteToClose I don't know Vitsy very well, sorry :( What sort of suggestions are you looking for though?

VoteToClose

@ETHproductions Like, what panels, what tools, etc.

Anonymous

Make a tool where you can input a question id and it solves it for you

mbomb007

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Oh, actually I don't even need one of those.

Your code did get a bit closer to mine

flawr

@VoteToClose A cake, some candles and a mug of hot chocolate with a lot of whipped cream and coloured sugar sprinkles.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

9:58 PM

Cool! I'll post it anyhow.

VoteToClose

@flawr :D

Luis Mendo

@Mego That must be it

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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A: Evolution of "Hello World!"

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Voila!

Let's see if we can get to 200 and/or brainf***.

ETHproductions

> Marky, the _UNK of life - ETHbot

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Fix your friggin markdown man :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

9:59 PM

I did can I haz upvote

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