The Nineteenth Byte

3:00 AM

Don't be mean @Dennis. We can hope. :P — RikerW 35 mins ago

Dennis?

Also @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ the background colors (at least for me) doesn't seem to go all the way: it turns back into the regular blue and white past the questions list

Doorknob

I'm not Dennis >_<

quartata

We should probably post this userscript on the meta thread

FlagAsSpam

Eh.

It's 3 AM and I can't sleep.

I'ma go play some Fallout.

quartata

@FlagAsSpam no

FlagAsSpam

3:11 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How do I use this?

@quartata :)

quartata

play csgo instead

@FlagAsSpam install tampermonkey

then add this as a script

Doorknob

So, I'm trying to Google for information regarding binding actions to key presses and releases in the i3 window manager

all I'm getting is stuff about the BMW i3 press release

Calvin's Hobbies

@FlagAsSpam I'm wondering too. I pasted it into tampemonkey but nothing in changing

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies Try refreshing the page

And making sure TamperMonkey is on

PhiNotPi

@AlexA. Join the speky call

quartata

3:13 AM

It should show a little 1 by the extension if it is

Doorknob

@AlexA. plz does speky cawl

Calvin's Hobbies

@quartata It does. There's a red square in the tampermonkey icon and a green (1) circle next to the favicon title. I did a hard reload

(using chrome)

quartata

I'm not sure whether to feel left out or relieved that I don't have to listen to a skype call where Alex rickrolls us all

Calvin's Hobbies

still nothing. Do I need to mess with the settings? All I did was add the code, nothing else

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies Hmm you shouldn't have to.

Did you add the header part?

That's important.

Calvin's Hobbies

3:19 AM

The // ==UserScript==...? yes

quartata

Huh

Calvin's Hobbies

Wait, now it's going!

favicons!

FlagAsSpam

There's no tamper monkey for Safari. :c

Alex A.

@quartata <3

Calvin's Hobbies

zipperackets?

quartata

3:21 AM

@AlexA. I'm serious too.

You are a good mod.

Don't let alex-is-wrong convince you otherwise.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Edit your wrongness out of the room tags. Have some birdly self respect

Doorknob

WHAT ROOM TAGS

Alex A.

@quartata ;-; <#

that's capital 3

because that's how much I love u

@Doorknob Don't think I didn't see the transcript from when Calvin pinged me

Doorknob

WHAT PING

what are you talking about

Alex A.

chat.stackexchange.com/messages/26580190/history

^ that, obviously :P

Calvin's Hobbies

3:24 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Is it to much to ask to keep this up to date with the higher voted design ideas? :D

Doorknob

@AlexA. that link is... err... a 404?

quartata

@Doorknob ...

Alex A.

@RikerW :/

room topic changed to The Nineteenth Byte: General discussion for codegolf.stackexchange.com | Great minds waste time alike —PhiNotPi (no tags)

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob You know, your new avatar looks like a butternut squash when rendered small.

3

Doorknob

hahaha

Someone else told me it looks like an alien eyeball

Alex A.

3:29 AM

It went from 6/10 very phallic to 2/10 fairly phallic.

Doorknob

-_-

Alex A.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Calvin's Hobbies

Could unicode characters ever be animated?

Like a blinking eye

SuperJedi224

Maybe. But that's not the unicode standard at present.

Calvin's Hobbies

I'm not sure how that would be printed on paper...

Alex A.

3:37 AM

@quartata @Zgarb @Calvin'sHobbies Skype wiff us?

Sherlock9

@mınxomaτ What's up?

SuperJedi224

@Calvin'sHobbies That is also true

quartata

@AlexA. I'd have to make another account

too lazy

Alex A.

@quartata You don't have to. It's not like any of us would do anything malicious with any information we may or may not see.

quartata

@AlexA. This is very reassuring

/s

PhiNotPi

3:44 AM

@AlexA.

Alex A.

@quartata ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ <3

@PhiNotPi @AlexA.

Doorknob

@AlexA.

Alex A.

@Doorknob @PhiNotPi @Sherlock9 @GamrCorps

cat

which is more pythonic / idiomatic, w or x or y or z or any(w, x, y, z)?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Calvin's hobbies I'd be happy to! When I have time, of course

Alex A.

3:48 AM

@cat Idiomatic? Not sure, but IMO the first is annoying to look at. :P

Good night

Good night!

I vote second way.

@AlexA. a or b or c or d or e or NotImplementedException or die

night!

Anonymous

@cat #2

cat

3:49 AM

@Mego thanks!

Thomas Kwa

@cat It depends what w through z are.

if they're similar conditions, then definitely the second one.

cat

@ThomasKwa they're all like isinstance(var, class)

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa Do you Skype?

Thomas Kwa

If x doesn't make sense if w is true, then the first one.

Alex A.

@Mego ^^

Thomas Kwa

3:50 AM

I do Skype.

Alex A.

Want to?

Anonymous

I also have the Skypes

Doorknob

there's a call right now!

Alex A.

We have an audio call going

Doorknob

ninja'd

Alex A.

3:51 AM

D:

Anonymous

I'm hoping my medication gets here soon

Thomas Kwa

/me squints

what do you skype about?

Alex A.

Everything and/or nothing

cat

@ThomasKwa the function is actually lambda x: isint(num) or isfloat(num) or isstr(num) in that it should return True if any are true (why I agree any() makes sense)

Thomas Kwa

@cat oh, probably the second one

quartata

3:52 AM

@Mego Cabbage?

cat

I wish I could skype with y'all

Doorknob

Why can't you?

Anonymous

@cat lambda x: type(x) in [IntType, FloatType, StringType]

Alex A.

Why can't you?

Doorknob

ninja'd

Thomas Kwa

3:53 AM

@Mego yeah, that's even better

PhiNotPi

@all you can send me a contact request phinotpi and I'll add you to the skype group

Thomas Kwa

I should Python more

Alex A.

Dec 30 '15 at 5:18, by New Main Posts

CABBAGE IS MY MEDICINE

@ThomasKwa You should Skype more

cat

@Doorknob I'd wake my parents + my internet is too slow :(

Thomas Kwa

I Skype much already

Doorknob

3:54 AM

@cat Oh. That's too bad :(

cat

@Mego hmmm, interesting.

Anonymous

lambda x,*types: type(x) in types

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa Joooooooooin us

GamrCorps

IF ANYONE WANTS TO JOIN THE SKYPE CHAT, ADD live:gamrcorps ON SKYPE

quartata

wtf someone already has the username quartata on gmail

FlagAsSpam

3:54 AM

Why don't I get invited to Skype. D:

quartata

Who is this imposter

FlagAsSpam

Me.

Sherlock9

@cat There's this magical thing called headphones! But if you can't, you can't and don't worry about it

Anonymous

@quartata Probably Alex

Doorknob

@FlagAsSpam you are!

Anonymous

3:55 AM

how 2 get invited to chatz

FlagAsSpam

Oh.

Damn.

GamrCorps

@FlagAsSpam accept my friend request, well add you again

Alex A.

@FlagAsSpam You show up as part of the group for me

But not present

cat

Again, my internet's too crap (at least right now)
I'll be able to next weekend if anyone else is/wants to

FlagAsSpam

Ohaaaay.

Sherlock9

3:56 AM

Ah alright. See you later

RikerW

@cat Same, but fine internet.

FlagAsSpam

It's trying to load all the messages. D:

quartata

Boy. I sure have a mess of Google accounts now.

FlagAsSpam

@quartata I have 10. o-o

quartata

I have my real account, two pages (one that was my old youtube account and one that is my new one) and another account that is the same identity as the new youtube account

@FlagAsSpam shit well played

> Welcome, quartata ducks

I feel welcome

FlagAsSpam

3:58 AM

They're for different forms of spam. xD

Calvin's Hobbies

Blue opinions?

0

A: Graduation Design Ideas

General Principle/Color Scheme - Anything but blue All beta Stack Exchange sites have the same light blue design which I am kind of sick of, but it doesn't stop there. Looking at all the SE sites, I quickly categorized the non-beta computer-related sites as blue or not blue, based on their icon ...

Anonymous

Anyone wanna add me to the audio call?

Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies da ba dee da ba die

quartata

@Calvin'sHobbies NO BLUE

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Hm?

FlagAsSpam

3:59 AM

Hmm. Considering how it's 4AM, I'm gonna hold off on joining the call.

Thomas Kwa

@FlagAsSpam Wow

That's a very different timezone from where I thought you were

FlagAsSpam

I'm overcoming jet lag of 7 hours right now.

Not well, might I add.

quartata

Oh and I also have my old university Google Apps account

jeez

So that's like 5?

FlagAsSpam

Oh, if we count schools, too, I have 12. xD

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Hm?

Alex A.

4:02 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies I thought you meant blues == mods. Idk. Carry on.

quartata

And the name quartata isn't available on skype.

What.

FlagAsSpam

Also me. >.>

quartata

...

Alex A.

@quartata Be quartatertots

quartata

Good enough

FlagAsSpam

4:04 AM

Question: did I get us on the topic of site design or was that coming about anyways? xD

GamrCorps

ATTENTION: WE HAVE ABANDONED SKYPE AND MOVED TO DISCORD

quartata

You've got to be kidding me.

I went to all that damn trouble

FlagAsSpam

ATTENTION: I AM TIRED YET CANNOT SLEEP

Sherlock9

@quartata Skype stinks. We're trying Discord

Thomas Kwa

@Phi I'm still not in the group

Calvin's Hobbies

4:10 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Who made the zipperbracket image? @mınxomaτ? Well they should add it to the design ideas, it was good!

cat

wait, is PPCG finally graduating?

Calvin's Hobbies

No :/

cat

/:

Calvin's Hobbies

@cat We're just hinting at the developers (and having fun making our own designs :)

Thomas Kwa

@cat As soon as Calvin's manages to write an average of 2.1 more questions per day.

Alex A.

4:12 AM

@ThomasKwa We're abandoning Skype in favor of Discord now?

cat

@ThomasKwa the pressure is on.

Calvin's Hobbies

@ThomasKwa That joke has been made more times that I've made questions

4

Thomas Kwa

@AlexA. What? I wasn't listening.

Calvin's Hobbies

And I'm still waiting for my rep to double ;)

Thomas Kwa

I thought Discord was a Discworld reference, or something.

quartata

4:14 AM

@ThomasKwa :P

Alex A.

@ThomasKwa We had been trying to recruit you to join us in Skype. However, we've moved over to some site/app called Discord.

RikerW

Had to leave for the night. Pass my goodbye onto discord. @AlexA.

aww, did alex remove the tag in the room desciption? :(((

It had it coming though.

@PhiNotPi ^

:)

@GamrCorps Context?

4:24 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies context status-declined

GamrCorps

Phi found another pyth language, so I emailed the creator for the interpreter

Anonymous

Ohhh

Anonymous

@Vesty

quartata

Vesty or Vitsy

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

@GamrCorps So there's a golfing Pyth and a not-golfing Pyth???

GamrCorps

4:26 AM

aparently

^ spelled wrong

ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ

RIFT

#duplicate

cat

should stack underflow result in a magical zero appearing from thin air and being returned, or a fatal error? the magical zero could result in unexpected ZeroDivisionError...

@Calvin'sHobbies not that it really matters but... where's the blue in programmers?

Calvin's Hobbies

cat

@Calvin'sHobbies ohh, those icons.

PhiNotPi

5:04 AM

"1000 ways to not live as long" A new television series.

Eating a cheeseburger, choosing a car over a bike, etc.

Alex A.

5:15 AM

Come on and slam and welcome to CJam

Sherlock9

It's chaos on the Discord server. I figured it was okay to give people permissions. I was very, very wrong

Anonymous

5:31 AM

@Sherlock9 muahahahaha

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

6:08 AM

So I kinda went all-out on the whole userscript idea

2

Calvin's Hobbies

6:34 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ I like it :) (Though I had to replace http with https in a one place)

Not crazy about the font. Seems too squished

Optimizer

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ up vote/down vorte buttons and badges..

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Optimizer I'll make those upgoat buttons and downgoat buttons if I can.

Optimizer

you want people to use the script or just want to get it converted to a meme?

Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ

@Optimizer some people might use the script but I don't have any other ideas for the buttons.

trichoplax

6:52 AM

@cat Note that in Python or returns the first True value, so 2 or 0 returns 2 and 0 or 3 returns 3. any((2,3)) returns True, whereas 2 or 3 returns 2. In most cases it won't affect what you're doing, but it's a subtlety worth bearing in mind if you want to use the return value for anything other than truth testing.

Calvin's Hobbies

7:07 AM

Anyone happen to have a plaintext list of all the SE site urls?

zyabin101

imgur.com/5kBQRnW

@ՊՓԼՃՐՊՃՈԲՍԼ I like how Android calls your lang.

Calvin's Hobbies

7:26 AM

For my future reference - SE site list: pastebin.com/raw/Aa4SK1gh

zyabin101

It doesn't have meta sites, but it should be easy to make one. To note, to note...

I mean, URLs of meta sites.

@AlexA. :D

mınxomaτ

@Calvin'sHobbies Weird, I didn't get that ping.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Wow, I just realized it does byte counts of code blocks. Great idea!

zyabin101

7:46 AM

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ It measures every code block, adding scores for examples, for example (no pun intended). Can you limit the byte counts to answers?

mınxomaτ

What is our policy on expression bodies? I see many valid JS answers using anonymous functions like function(a,b){return a*b;}. This needs to be assigned to be executed. A similar solution in C# would be (int a, int b)=>a*b;. Would this be acceptable?

grc

@mınxomaτ anonymous functions are fine

24

A: Should function literals be allowed when a function is asked for?

This is obviously a named function. def g(h): return h * 2 However, not all functions are named. This is an anonymous function, which is still a function. lambda h: h * 2 You may easily notice that you can assign the function. g = lambda h: h * 2 However, even without this, the functio...

zyabin101

Also, I like the new icon of @Doorknob Is he wearing a vectorize-and-simplify hat or something?

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doᴡɴɢᴏᴀᴛ Minor point: When a code block only has one byte it still says "bytes". ~~And I agree that only blocks in answers should be counted.~~ Or do I agree? Maybe..

New Main Posts

8:16 AM

0

Q: New to coding! Just trying to get a few pointers!

Hey so I'm new to coding and all & I'm going to start college in a few weeks, I'm going to major in computer science & my dream is to develop games & I'm just wondering if you guys can give me some tips, classes to take, books, videos to watch, or anything just to get familiar with coding and eve...

code-generation

mınxomaτ

snipe pls

zyabin101

8:39 AM

@NewMainPosts say: Feed him electric butter already!

@NewMainPosts say: No offense @mınxomaτ.

mınxomaτ

8:54 AM

Every computer, at the unreachable memory address 0x-1, stores a secret. I found it, and it is that all humans ar-- SEGMENTATION FAULT.

New Main Posts

9:08 AM

1

Q: Pronoun operation

The challenge Write a function or a program that takes a string composed by one or more subjective personal pronouns, separated by a + symbols, as an argument. The output must by a single pronoun, that is the result of the relation defined in the next paragraph. Of course, feel free to edit as ...

code-golf natural-language

zyabin101

9:37 AM

PogChamp

zyabin101

10:22 AM

With the current JS function golf update pushed, the "tally up char codes" challenge will be 61 byte!

Or even better, 59 bytes!

mınxomaτ

Anyone know, if there is a jed build for windows?

zyabin101

10:38 AM

paneura.com/~dino/wjed.html

Optimizer

Deadpunch Trailer - Deadpool/One-Punch Man Parody

►

mınxomaτ

I'm at my parent's place for the holidays and I just got a call that my own apartment has been flooded >.>

There're over 10 PCs in there ....

New Main Posts

11:14 AM

0

Q: A Yoda-speaking challenge, this is

The challenge Well, I think it is quite clear, isn't it? You have to make a function or a program that takes a string as an argument and outputs the corrispondent Yoda-speaking. This is code-golf, so least number of bytes wins. The input The input could be any string. You can translate a stri...

code-golf natural-language

Sherlock9

@mınxomaτ Good luck with your apartment troubles, dude

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:02 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies Yeah, it was @mınxomaτ and he should.

Lembik

hi all

any cjammers in?

Optimizer

no

I am not sure why any cjamers will ever be here..

not like we actively use cjam here to golf code

dorothy

@Optimizer that's a confusing answer

sarcasm?

Optimizer

no :P

dorothy

if I can take over the conversation... codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/68176/21585 needs a cjam answer :)

mınxomaτ

12:08 PM

When has Optimizer ever used sarcasm. He's a dead serious person, you know.

dorothy

so that I can then accept the pyth one :)

otherwise I will just have to conclude the cjam-people are losers :)

FlagAsSpam

@dorothy It's because code-golfers loathe Perl, for the most part. — FlagAsSpam 6 secs ago

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam I just replied to that

"But, but.. perl is incomprehensible, succinct and borderline insane. How could it be more suitable for code-golf? "

I feel perl and pyth could happily elope

FlagAsSpam

Hellno. xD

dorothy

:)

I have a math-ey question... I could ask if any math-loving people are in but I fear @Optimizer's reply :)

FlagAsSpam

12:14 PM

Wat be your challenge?

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam did you read my entropy challenge?

that will make it easier to explain

FlagAsSpam

@dorothy Yes - you bounced the original setup off of me, remember?

dorothy

yep :)

so fix the number of rows to be 10, say and increase the number of columns. A naive method to compute the entropy gets very slow very quickly

the challenge would be to estimate the entropy to within 1%, say, using code that takes < 1 minute, say

and see how many columns you can get to

FlagAsSpam

Rather similar, but alright.

(I mean, it's not the same, but...)

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam I think it requires different skills

and genius :)

FlagAsSpam

12:33 PM

O.O I've discovered that it is, indeed, possible, to make golfing libraries for AppleScript.

There's even an injector to Script Editor.

Builtin.

What is this? A well-made Apple-based language that functions well and is programmer-friendly? IMPOSSIBLE!

Also, an amazing Chrome extension: chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/trump-filter/…

mınxomaτ

12:47 PM

Browsing the site now works on codegolf.xyz. Login is disabled for security reasons until I finish the OpenID integration and SSL. Not yet there: Meta and chat.

dorothy

@FlagAsSpam That's wonderful!

New Meta Posts

1:27 PM

0

Q: Code kata should be added to Programming Puzzles & Code Golf

The idea of Programming Puzzles & Code Golf is excellent. Putting-out challenges, submitting your take on the solution, receiving feedback. But it seems to be mainly code golf, and this then just seems to be a 'race to the bottom' for all the 'golfing languages'. These languages are great, but le...

feature-request

Dennis

1:42 PM

Might want to try The Nineteenth Byte, but someone'd have to let you chat explicitly (so ask Calvin nicely!). — FlagAsSpam 2 hours ago

@FlagAsSpam Is it possible to chat without 20 rep?

Martin Büttner

1:54 PM

oh I didn't even notice that cryptography got colours

can we please do this next year?

25

Q: Best of Code Review 2015 — Now Accepting Nominations!

As 2015 comes to an end, let's kick off Best of Code Review 2015! All Code Review users will be invited to nominate (link to) the best questions and answers from this year, and showcase them as examples of what great CR questions and answers should look like. Prizes in the form of bounties will...

discussion featured fun best-of

(or we could still do it for 2015 I guess)

randomra

I like that, I think we can still do it for '15

Martin Büttner

I'll get a meta post ready.

Martin Büttner

2:10 PM

it's happening!

and the chameleon cube is back!

happy new year, @Rainbolt ;)

Rainbolt

Happy new year!

I ran 13 miles in the last 7 days. 2 miles/day except for yesterday because I had to go to bed early

New Meta Posts

0

Q: Best of PPCG 2015 — Call for Categories

At the end of each year, our nemesis friendly neighbours at Code Review vote for the best questions and answers from that year. I think that is a great tradition we should steal adopt here as well, because it allows us to showcase some of the amazing content we've created and potentially reward t...

discussion best-of

Dennis

@NewMetaPosts Needs moar strikethrough.

Doorknob

2:51 PM

@Dennis No.

Well, kinda

The only way to do that is for a moderator to give you explicit access

Dennis

So there's nothing Calvin could do, right?

Doorknob

Right

@ETHproductions, @BrainSteel, @Mego, @yeti: got your time capsule entries

Zgarb

@MartinBüttner I'd be happy to write a challenge or two to honor challenge category winners.

trichoplax

@Doorknob Did my real time capsule entry get through (yesterday, I think)?

Doorknob

@trichoplax yes

trichoplax

2:58 PM

Yay :)

Are you seeing a lot of duplicate characters?

Doorknob

Haha yes

There's one that appears 8 times

@TimmyD: got yours as well

TimmyD

Groovy

Martin Büttner

@Zgarb nice :)

quintopia

3:17 PM

@MartinBüttner Why might <pre><code> ... </code></pre> fail, and let some of the line within it not get displayed, while <code>ing lines that come after the </pre>?

Martin Büttner

do you have < or > in the code?

use < and > instead.

quintopia

ah right. that would do it.

Martin Büttner

@Dennis in fairness, in both cases the deleted word was what I first wanted to write.

quartata

3:35 PM

@dorothy Don't listen to him.

We love Perl

quintopia