The Nineteenth Byte

quintopia

6:00 PM

verizoncraft seems p awesome

anOKsquirrel

yeah

Nathan Merrill

there's a deleted answer on my KoTH

but it looks like a valid answer

do I just ignore it?

CSᵠ

[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0,]/PI=[3,4,8,9,4,3,‌1,7]

@NathanMerrill user chose that, so yes

maybe he's refining ?

Nathan Merrill

its a pretty dumb answer, he always votes himself

Sherlock9

> Hey, Eumel wants to send me an .exe of his LabVIEW code for one of my questions
> Trouble is, SO and SE don't have private messaging and I'm not keen on giving out my email address
> Any idea how we can send stuff?

Nathan Merrill

6:02 PM

not sure how much refining you need

:P

TimmyD

36

A: Loopholes that are forbidden by default

Suicidal entries to King-of-the-Hill challenges. EmoWolf was funny the first time, but it's getting out of hand. While some not-too-serious answers are often necessary to kickstart a king-of-the-hill challenge, purely suicidal answers put in little effort and tend to get more upvotes than serio...

CSᵠ

@NathanMerrill test please, off the books results...

Nathan Merrill

?

CSᵠ

@NathanMerrill test with that player, curious about the leaderboard

and off the books = don't update the question

Nathan Merrill

ah, ok

I'm not bothered by suicidal submissions

@TimmyD

New Main Posts

6:05 PM

1

Q: How should I tile my kitchen?

I recently ordered a new and colorful to replace my boring old white tiling for my kitchen. However, when the tiling arrived, they were all in a weird shape! Therefore, I need a program to figure out how to arrange the tiles so that I need to use as few of my old boring white tiling as possible...

code-golf

0

Q: Can I place the rubiks3cube pieces in the distorted position I intend to get?

Right now I am trying to get the distorted position like this: in each face only one diagonal is solved and no similar colour is on a face other than the diagonal pieces mentioned previously. For example: If I am looking at the white face, there should exactly be two corner pieces in that face ...

rubiks-cube

TimmyD

OK, just mentioning it as it's apparently caused issues in the past

anOKsquirrel

@NewMainPosts ughh

Nathan Merrill

@CSᵠ I'm going to run it, but I'm pretty positive it won't do well. I previously gave the player everybody (including himself) as input, and when I added self-filtering to min and max player they did significantly better

therefore, I now only pass in the player's opponents

42584 WeakestLink.Players.Sniper
37976 WeakestLink.Players.MaxPlayer
32257 WeakestLink.Players.MeanPlayer
26591 WeakestLink.Players.RandomPlayer
23690 WeakestLink.Players.MinPlayer
1339 WeakestLink.Players.IDontWantToPlay

@CSᵠ

CSᵠ

@NathanMerrill how are you running it now? there are less than 9 players

Nathan Merrill

I allow for duplicate players

CSᵠ

6:11 PM

wow, awesome

@NathanMerrill and when you get over 9?

Nathan Merrill

there will be the occasional duplicate player

I randomize the list

'select 9

keep remainder

CSᵠ

combinations

Nathan Merrill

repeat through remainer until I can't fill

then randomize everybody again

and pick to fill the remaining slots

Doorknob

!!!!!

3

CSᵠ

actually, random 's random

heya door

Nathan Merrill

6:14 PM

@Doorknob that is really coool

anOKsquirrel

what's winter bash?

Optimizer

hey! I won that race!

Nathan Merrill

@muddyfish can you remove your comment/downvote on the suicidal?

I'm actually ok with suicidal answers

anOKsquirrel

> what's winter bash?

Nathan Merrill

@aerox you can undelete your answer

(hope that worked)

he's never been in this chat, so I doubt it

CSᵠ

6:17 PM

@NathanMerrill invite user to room first

then ping

anOKsquirrel

in scg, I have r for range so 12r -> [0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11] what should two-argument range (like range(5,7)) be?

Stefnotch

@Doorknob What's that !!!!! website?

Nathan Merrill

well, it looks like he isn't in any chat

so I can't invite him

and I don't want to just edit the post

ah well

CSᵠ

@NathanMerrill 40 players, 9 seats = 273 mil combinations

not that bad...

Nathan Merrill

40 players?

CSᵠ

6:21 PM

feeling optimistic

Nathan Merrill

ah

quintopia

I was thinking about entering that KOTH, but it requires my making sure I have haha development at up

Geobits

That countdown page... looks like somebody got bored :)

anOKsquirrel

> > what's winter bash?

quintopia

Wow java got autocorrected to haha off screen

Smooth move SwiftKey

Nathan Merrill

6:24 PM

@quintopia if there are any bugs I'll probably fix them and let you know

quintopia

Oh neat

Hmm how about a challenge for writing an optimal notakto player

Geobits

@anOKsquirrel From last year's: blog.stackoverflow.com/2014/12/winter-bash-2014

anOKsquirrel

@Geobits Thanks :D

Nathan Merrill

@quintopia that's a solved game

so it'd need to be a code-golf

oooh, it involves multiple boards

nevermind

Thomas Kwa

Well, this was pretty much a perfect fit for TI-BASIC

anOKsquirrel

6:33 PM

ugh, my github avatar was removed

wait no, it's just a bug

New Main Posts

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Q: How many squares, cubes, fourth powers, etc. do I need to sum to n?

You are given a nonnegative integer n and an integer p >= 2. You need to add some p-th powers (p=2 means squares, p=3 means cubes) together to get n. This is always for any nonnegative n, but you don't know many p-th powers (of any integer, negative or positive) you'll need. This is your task: f...

code-golf math arithmetic number-theory

anOKsquirrel

@Sherlock9 so if it doesn't have to be efficient, can I just return 1^2 + 1^2 etc etc?

Sherlock9

@ThomasKwa I hope that brute force doesn't win either, but my own implementation in Python 3 is very brute force

@anOKsquirrel Well the output needs to be the minimum number of squares you need

anOKsquirrel

how can you be sure it's the minimum? greedy algorithm?

Sherlock9

@anOKsquirrel And when I say, doesn't have to be efficient, I mean that the algorithm can be brute force

Thomas Kwa

6:36 PM

@anOKsquirrel That's the challenge.

anOKsquirrel

@Sherlock9 oh dangit. so much for my one char cjam answer

Sherlock9

@anOKsquirrel I have an algorithm that brute forces stuff to check your answers, don't worry

anOKsquirrel

@Sherlock9 source?

Sherlock9

@anOKsquirrel What was it? * curious *

@anOKsquirrel I wrote it

anOKsquirrel

@Sherlock9 r 34 2 > 1^2 + 1^2 etc

@Sherlock9 source code

gtg bai

Thomas Kwa

6:38 PM

I think J or K might win this

Sherlock9

@anOKsquirrel I'll put it up as an answer when I'm satisfied with its golfing

@anOKsquirrel 34 = 25 + 9

Thomas Kwa

Outer product by sum with all the powers, repeat until an element in the flattened array is equal to the input.

muddyfish

@NathanMerrill removed comment, will remove downvote if it becomes undeleted

Nathan Merrill

@muddyfish thanks

if I ever design a language I want it to have a super complex type system

like, instead of an "integer"

make it a "range(0-100)"

Thomas Kwa

@NathanMerrill Golfing or non?

Nathan Merrill

6:45 PM

non

or "double(0-1)"

Thomas Kwa

At first sight, that sounds painful to code in. What are the advantages?

Nathan Merrill

static assertions

if you can say that X is going to fit the following bounds

then you can determine whether certain functions/actions are allowed

Thomas Kwa

for performance?

VoteToClose

@CSᵠ How do you have a phi in your name?

Nathan Merrill

no, assertions

for example

I currently store a large array of doubles

the array will always be of the same size

and the doubles will always be from 0.0 to 1.0 inclusive

if I could turn that into a "type"

then when doing calculations within that type, my compiler will be able to tell me whether those calculations are correct

for example, if I took an int X (from 1 to infinity), and stored (X/(X+1)) in the array, that would be valid

but if I tried to store X/2, it would throw an exception at compile time

Thomas Kwa

6:50 PM

hmm, interesting

VoteToClose

The little change name display says it can only contain letters, numbers and some other stuff, but I see tons of people with not letters in their names. :I

/me grumbles.

VoteToClose

7:08 PM

Anyone wanna refresh my profile? :P

TimmyD

@VoteToClose Going to rename Vitsy to Flasp?

VoteToClose

What? No. Why?

What is Flasp?

TimmyD

VoteToClose ... VTC ... ViTC ... Vitsy

Nathan Merrill

we are going to need a 2016 challenge

TimmyD

FlagAsSpam ... Flasp

VoteToClose

7:14 PM

Oh. No.

Never.

Thomas Kwa

I think it's too late

now we'll all call it Flasp

VoteToClose

VTCAKAVSMoACE is what that comes from.

Not VoteToClose

Geobits

Flasp. I love it.

TimmyD

Flasp it is.

2

VoteToClose

ಠ_ಠ You guys suck sometimes.

jkily

TimmyD

7:16 PM

@VoteToClose "sometimes" ...?

Nathan Merrill

yeah, the times where we don't call it flasp

VoteToClose

Uh. Wut?

Geobits

Even without flasp, flagaspam sounds like some terribly ill-conceived breakfast food.

TimmyD

@Geobits Sounds Scottish.

VoteToClose

O>O Whatever happens, don't anagram that one.

Zach Gates

7:33 PM

import sollux; is calling a variable named "sollux"? @Eridan

Or is it creating a variable named "sollux"?

VoteToClose

Why is this directed towards me?

I don't use Python.

Zach Gates

Oops

Wrong person :P

VoteToClose

...coolio?

Zach Gates

My fault, my fault

VoteToClose

serverfault*

;)

Don't worry about it.

Zach Gates

7:35 PM

It wasn't Python, btw, it was regarding this question.

VoteToClose

Oh, alright. clicks

Yes, that is setting a variable. :P

WAIT.

Wut?

You're right, that makes no sense to me either.

Zach Gates

Yeah /:

VoteToClose

Because it "calls" a variable sollux.

rawrs

Zach Gates

It calls it, then sets it

VoteToClose

By the way: here are the anagrams to FlagAsSpam, but, be warned, if you're offended by certain words, I'll be amused: wordsmith.org/anagram/…

Zach Gates

7:39 PM

"A Flags Maps"

import THIS;                    //calls variable "THIS"
~ATH(THIS){EXECUTE(++++)}       //sets the value of "THIS" to 4
bifurcate THIS[THIS1,THIS2];    //deletes "THIS", creates variables "THIS1" and "THIS2" both equal to 4

This makes no sense to me

quintopia

@NathanMerrill It is a solved game. I intended it to be a code golf.

what's the best way to test ES6 code?

orlp

the latest question is pretty much impossible

not sure if we should close

Zach Gates

@quintopia JavaScript? I use the Chrome console.

VoteToClose

"The latest question" - link?

Zach Gates

I voted to close the ~ATH question as unclear

FlagAsSpam

7:43 PM

^

quintopia

@ZachGates I thought it didn't support ...

orlp

5

Q: How many squares, cubes, fourth powers, etc. do I need to sum to n?

You are given a nonnegative integer n and an integer p >= 2. You need to add some p-th powers (p=2 means squares, p=3 means cubes) together to get n. This is always for any nonnegative n, but you don't know many p-th powers (of any integer, negative or positive) you'll need. This is your task: f...

code-golf math arithmetic number-theory

pretty much impossible

FlagAsSpam

Oh, I liked that.

Zach Gates

@quintopia Give me an example

orlp

2220422932**3 + -2218888517**3 + -283059965**3

for example type that into Python (or another arbitrary precision calculator)

Zach Gates

7:44 PM

30?

Sherlock9

Right then, I'll set some bounds

quintopia

@Sherlock9 just say that you won't test it for n and p that require really huge numbers

@ZachGates What's unclear?

Sherlock9

@quintopia Why not set limits directly?

orlp

@Sherlock9 that won't work

Zach Gates

@quintopia The whole thing

Sherlock9

7:45 PM

@ZachGates Makes sense to me

Zach Gates

5 mins ago, by Zach Gates

import THIS;                    //calls variable "THIS"
~ATH(THIS){EXECUTE(++++)}       //sets the value of "THIS" to 4
bifurcate THIS[THIS1,THIS2];    //deletes "THIS", creates variables "THIS1" and "THIS2" both equal to 4

Sherlock9

@ZachGates Declare a variable, set a value z, print the variable name z times

Zach Gates

Why are we "importing" THIS but "bifurcating" THIS1 and THIS2?

It doesn't say "declare" a variable.. It says "call"

quintopia

@ZachGates "call" is a synonym for "name"

Sherlock9

@ZachGates Bifurcate means make two variables the same. a=b=0

Zach Gates

7:47 PM

@quintopia No, it is not

quintopia

@ZachGates in plain english it is

Sherlock9

@ZachGates In this instance, since that's what it's being used for, it is declaring the variable

quintopia

"call variable THIS" is like "call me quintopia"

Sock

Hello, everyone!

Sherlock9

@orlp Then the minimum number of powers from [-n, n+1)

Zach Gates

7:49 PM

@quintopia You aren't calling anything. You're declaring or defining a variable.

orlp

@Sherlock9 at that point your question is incredibly dull and lame and is just direct bruteforce and should be downvoted

TimmyD

@ZachGates Wrong definition of "call"

Sherlock9

@orlp Fair point

@orlp Should I go delete it?

quintopia

@ZachGates a poor choice of wording in the comment of an example program does not make the actual specification given above that any less clear

orlp

@Sherlock9 you can post a question about Waring's problem

but now you know why Waring's problem is limited to even powers :)

Zach Gates

7:50 PM

@quintopia In my opinion, it makes in unclear. Especially to someone who may be new to our site.

Sherlock9

@orlp Powers of non-negative integers but yes

Zach Gates

You don't have to agree. My goal is not to persuade you to see it my way

Sherlock9

@ZachGates This is about flagging a question, so we have to agree on something

@orlp Should I limit it to only powers of positive integers?

@orlp Gets me 27 + 1 + 1 + 1 = 30 for 30 3

@orlp But yeah, I should have remembered that from Numberphile

quintopia

@ZachGates just downvote it then. Or edit it to be more clear. The question is not entirely without merit.

Zach Gates

Ok

TimmyD

8:01 PM

@ZachGates I think you're mixing languages due to cognates. The challenge is defining a new language, ~ATH, with statements like import Var that creates a new variable named Var. Equivalent in other languages could be int Var or [int] $Var or even I HAS A Var if you're into LOLCODE.

New Meta Posts

8:13 PM

0

Q: I don't understand why this is "unclear"

This is the question in question (no pun intended) It was put on hold is unclear. I do not understand what is unclear. I asked a flagger why it was unclear. @Mego: 1) There is no objective winning condition, so it's unclear. 2) There is no requirement on what the program should do, so it's...

discussion specific-question closed-questions

SuperJedi224

Hello

ev3commander

#hi

★

orlp

how do I run the java controller?

on ubuntu?

27

Q: You are the Weakest Link, Goodbye

This king-of-the-hill challenge is based off of the game show, Weakest Link. For those unfamiliar with the show, the crux of this challenge deals with who you vote off: If the other players are smarter than you, then you have less of a chance of getting the pot. If the other players are dumb...

king-of-the-hill java

Anonymous

@orlp javac controller.java && java controller

Alex A.

@Doorknob I don't understand what I'm looking at

TimmyD

8:24 PM

@AlexA. Four exclamation points.

Alex A.

It's a link to something about SE Winter Bash, I just don't understand what it is.

orlp

@AlexA. countdown

FlagAsSpam

@flawr No socks attached. — FlagAsSpam 9 secs ago

ev3commander

@AlexA. If you're referring to the winterbash thing, I can see some figures that look like 17495

Optimizer

its a bit slowk but those people stand to represent a clock

Sherlock9

8:25 PM

@orlp Sorry to bug you again, but would restrict to powers of positive numbers help?

ev3commander

@FlagAsSpam arghh so many people chaging usernames

FlagAsSpam

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ At least mine's related.

orlp

@Sherlock9 yes, but still very computationally intensive

but at least not potentially impossible

Sherlock9

@orlp Hallelujah, that's a good enough start

Editing now

Anonymous

@FlagAsSpam You will always be Vesty

Optimizer

8:27 PM

tribo ne1?

FlagAsSpam

@Mego ಠ_ಠ What does that even mean?

orlp

@Mego doesn't work

get errors while building

Anonymous

@FlagAsSpam It means vesty

orlp

oh now it works

FlagAsSpam

@Mego hiss

Anonymous

8:28 PM

@FlagAsSpam <3

TimmyD

@Mego Flasp.

FlagAsSpam

@Mego @TimmyD HISS

Alex A.

Are you some kind of snake now?

Anonymous

NO

Anonymous

No more snakes in here!

Optimizer

8:30 PM

@FlagAsSpam boo

Anonymous

We don't wanna be invaded by the nerds again

FlagAsSpam

Lennipede. c:

Zach Gates

No snakes on this plain

TimmyD

@ZachGates Snakes are un-tile-able.

Alex A.

Friends - It's NOT a Cat

►

FlagAsSpam

8:32 PM

@Optimizer hiss

orlp

@Mego I'm getting errors

Game/PlayerFactory.java:13: error: ')' expected
        playerCreators.put(RandomPlayer.class, RandomPlayer::new);

Anonymous

@orlp ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Sherlock9

@Mego What the hell do you need the Goldbach conjecture for? XD

Nathan Merrill

@orlp you probably aren't using Java 8

Anonymous

@Sherlock9 min_powers(2,n) is 1 if n is a perfect square and 2 otherwise, assuming the Goldbach conjecture

orlp

8:35 PM

@NathanMerrill when I was I got version mismatch errors

Anonymous

Err wait

Anonymous

min_powers(1,n)

Anonymous

But p >= 2

Anonymous

Nevermind

Nathan Merrill

@orlp not sure how to solve that, but I definitely am using Java 8

Zgarb

8:36 PM

@TimmyD link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F3-540-45005-X_6

Snakes can be tiled

orlp

@NathanMerrill it compiles when I use java 8

OH

Nathan Merrill

awesome

orlp

I had a wrong default for java

javac Game/*.java Players/*.java Main.java && java -cp .. WeakestLink.Main

Optimizer

‮

booyeah

Anonymous

@orlp If it's anything but rm, it's definitely wrong

orlp

8:39 PM

@NathanMerrill I only need to edit PlayerFactory, right?

TimmyD

@Zgarb >.>

Nathan Merrill

and create a new Player, yeah

@PeterTaylor I'm not sure I understand your comment

Alex A.

strawpoll.me/6153356

Other == ?

Nathan Merrill

I think you are correct, but not sure what the formal definition of "lattice" is

Rainbolt

Leɪ-teks

feersum

8:42 PM

@AlexA. This poll doesn't even specify which syllable is stressed!

Voting to close as unclear.

TimmyD

@AlexA. Flasp.

Nathan Merrill

lol

Anonymous

"Lah-teck" wtf

Alex A.

^

@TimmyD I don't know what that means

@feersum That was by design; I'm more interested in the vowel sounds and the ending.

Anonymous

@AlexA. It's @FlagAsSpam's language

feersum

8:46 PM

@Mego That's prboably what I hear most (second syllable stressed)

@AlexA. That's very important for the vowel sounds.

Anonymous

It's LaTeX, pronounced like latex

Anonymous

Anything else is unthinkable

feersum

It's not clear which vowel sounds you intend either.

Anonymous

Hard g and latex and spaces

Alex A.

@Mego Hard G in GIF?

TimmyD

8:48 PM

2 hours ago, by TimmyD

Flasp it is.

Nathan Merrill

It's LaTeX pronounced like Fla-sp

Alex A.

ಠ_ಠ

@feersum "Lay," as in lay to rest. "Lah," as in la la la.

Idk what else one would use

TimmyD

> And in case you were wondering, «LaTeX» is pronounced «Lah-tech» or «Lay-tech», to rhyme with «blech» or «Bertolt Brecht» (almost).
http://latex-project.org/intro.html

Alex A.

I pronouce it «Lay-tech»

Like latex without the trailing "s" sound.

So for once, alex-is-right. Sort of.

Anonymous

@AlexA. No I'm just a hard g

Alex A.

8:51 PM

Damn son

feersum

If the first syllable is unstressed then the vowel is like uh

Anonymous