The Nineteenth Byte

Sherlock9

12:00 AM

@WadCheber Then when did he find out about Leia?

TanMath

@WadCheber but then what about when palpatine says about luke?

Calvin's Hobbies

@Sherlock9 What was the best Sherlock Holmes novel?

anOKsquirrel

@TanMath "give me the code" is not a question

2

Ixrec

checking again, the only thing in Ep IV that comes close to Vader noticing Luke was the famous "The Force is strong with this one!" line at the end

Wad Cheber

@Sherlock9 During Luke's final fight with Vader.

@TanMath Palpatine isn't in the first movie.

rand al'thor

12:01 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies The Hound of the Baskervilles. But there are only 4 novels. The real question is what was the best short story.

Wad Cheber

He says that in episode V

TanMath

@Ixrec yes, I mean that one

Eridan

Did I come to the wrong chat?

TanMath

@WadCheber i know

Calvin's Hobbies

@randal'thor Those are harder

TanMath

12:01 AM

@Eridan yes

@Eridan go here:

chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/198/mos-eisley

OH NO

>:D

what?

I'm only here because @randal'thor linked this place in Mos Eisley

Sherlock9

@Calvin'sHobbies I am a massive fan that hasn't read all the Sherlock Holmes stories haha, but I would say... The Sign of Four

Alex A.

12:02 AM

@randal'thor y u do dis

rand al'thor

@TanMath You people have broken Mos Eisley and made it off-topic :-/

Alex A.

Sounds familiar

Anonymous

@randal'thor You broke 19th Byte first.

TanMath

@randal'thor R.I.P. Mos Eisley

Wad Cheber

@randal'thor Mos Eisley has never not been off topic.

Anonymous

12:03 AM

This used to be a haven for code golf and dank memes

TanMath

your mod friends are going to kill you!

Anonymous

And then you brought your nerddom here

Sherlock9

@randal'thor @Calvin'sHobbies Note that I only say Sign of Four from the two SH novels I have read, the other being Study in Scarlet

rand al'thor

@Mego I didn't. Blame Wad and TanMath, not the whole of SFF chat.

Sherlock9

I really must read Hound

Anonymous

12:04 AM

@randal'thor I'm joking btw :P in case it wasn't clear

Ixrec

@Sherlock9 yeah, you should

Eridan

You know, the programming language ~ATH would be an excellent topic of conversation right now because it's a programming language but it's also from a sci-fi webcomic.

Sherlock9

@Ixrec Dumb thing is, one of my programming assignments is to parse Hound into separate words

You'd think I'd take that opportunity to actually read it

Wad Cheber

@Sherlock9 During the final fight between Vader and Luke, Vader reads Luke's mind while Luke is thinking about Leia, and threatens to go after her. That's what motivates Luke to defeat Vader, and Vader didn't know about Leia until that moment.

Ixrec

@Sherlock9 is that as trivial as it sounds? (book.split(" "))

anOKsquirrel

12:05 AM

@Ixrec periods et

etc*

Wad Cheber

@randal'thor You were here first, mr. Teflon.

VoteToClose

My GOD is this internet poor.

rand al'thor

@WadCheber But I didn't start talking about SFF in here!

Wad Cheber

Also, you told me what room it was. All your fault.

Sherlock9

@Ixrec Parse it, count how many times it appears, sort the words, take an input word, take an input edit distance, print every word within the input distance and its count

Alex A.

12:06 AM

@Maltysen Welcome to Mos Eisley

rand al'thor

Indirectly, Star Wars ruined Mos Eisley.

Anonymous

Hey while you people are here

Wad Cheber

@randal'thor Says the guy who brought up HP

TanMath

it is! and then he threatens to kick us out!

Sherlock9

@Ixrec I skipped over a few steps

Anonymous

12:06 AM

Nov 12 at 22:26, by Doorknob

okay seriously stop abusing stars

Wad Cheber

@randal'thor False. You mentioned HP.

Anonymous

Star the linked message

Calvin's Hobbies

@Mego Alright. Mini-challenge: Given positive int N, print an N by N checkerboard. e.g. N = 5:

2

X.X.X
.X.X.
X.X.X
.X.X.
X.X.X

anOKsquirrel

time to code golf!

Calvin's Hobbies

Use any two distinct chars

rand al'thor

12:07 AM

@WadCheber I only referred to HP. I didn't start discussing it as a fan.

Doorknob

@Calvin'sHobbies N can be even or odd?

Wad Cheber

@randal'thor You're flailing now. It's unbecoming.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob Yes, could be either

Wad Cheber

:)

rand al'thor

@WadCheber Donkeys are unbecoming.

Alex A.

12:08 AM

Did you that there's a whole chat room for scifi?

Ixrec

and why do the donkeys keep showing up? =)

Wad Cheber

@randal'thor I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of your donkey braying.

Anonymous

General discussion for codegolf.stackexchange.com | Guidelines: ...

nvm

Maybe if you took that bucket off your head...

rand al'thor

12:09 AM

@AlexA. More like ten whole chatrooms.

Anonymous

@AlexA. no

Anonymous

modcaboose

Ixrec

it was more like five real chats and a sequence of five equally short-lived replacements for that first chat

rand al'thor

@WadCheber HEE!

@WadCheber HAW!

Anonymous

Idk what even is going on

TanMath

12:10 AM

anyway, I am not getting answers to any of my questions, might as well get my butt outa here!

rand al'thor

@Ixrec We still have the DW chat, the SW chat, the TWD chat, the AoN chat, and probably a few others.

Anonymous

But I blame TanMath for attracting our lovely SFF nerd friends here

Ixrec

I thought we answered all your questions already

@randal'thor yep, that makes exactly five

anOKsquirrel

anyone else actually doing calvin's challenge?

Doorknob

Can anyone even come close to deciphering the latest challenge on main? Because I can't, and I want to make sure before closehammering as unclear.

Maltysen

12:11 AM

@anOKsquirrel me

anOKsquirrel

@Maltysen languae?

Maltysen

Pyth

Ixrec

@randal'thor the only others are temp chats and chats I do not understand the purpose of

Sherlock9

@anOKsquirrel Which one?

@Doorknob Which one?

anOKsquirrel

@Sherlock9 checkerboard

Doorknob

12:12 AM

@Sherlock9 The latest post.

rand al'thor

@Ixrec Plus some others.

Doorknob

Wait for the RSS bot to post it...

rand al'thor

Twelve in total (minus frozen/deleted rooms)

Calvin's Hobbies

5 mins ago, by Calvin's Hobbies

@Mego Alright. Mini-challenge: Given positive int N, print an N by N checkerboard. e.g. N = 5:

Wad Cheber

Ixrec

12:14 AM

@Doorknob if my opinion counts, and you mean the stenographer one, I can get the gist of what it's about but it seems not at all clear what the expected inputs and outputs are, I can't even tell if he wants a decoder or an encoder

Sherlock9

def f(n):print("ab"[sum(i,j)%2]for i in range(n)for i in range(n))

anOKsquirrel

@Calvin'sHobbies CJam r~_2#,{2%}%\/N*

Maltysen

Pyth 17 bytes: j<Q*Qmjk<Q*Qd_BU2

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Q: Encode the steganographic encoder in a steganographic package

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Doorknob

@Sherlock9 Surely (i+j) is shorter than a call to sum?

(Also, the second thingy in the list comprehension should be a j. You typo'd it and used i twice)

Calvin's Hobbies

12:15 AM

^

VoteToClose

@Calvin'sHobbies Vitsy, 25 bytes: V" X"V\[V\[DO{]aOV2M1+\{]

Mostly because I had to deal with the even/odd.

Sherlock9

@Doorknob Yep, fixing now

anOKsquirrel

mine is 15 bytes because CJam always wins

Doorknob

@Alex's arrows have been getting ninja'd by unrelated messages like mad today. :P

Alex A.

Seriously

anOKsquirrel

12:16 AM

@Doorknob *carrots

Doorknob

oh right

Calvin's Hobbies

Mini-challenge: Bake a pastry and mail it to me.

anOKsquirrel

CJam, 4 bytes: "no"

Doorknob

... only when run as root. Otherwise output What? Bake it yourself.

Calvin's Hobbies

+400 bounty

TanMath

12:17 AM

@anOKsquirrel when did I say "give me the code"!!!!!

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Okay. Address?

Maltysen

Pyth 15 bytes: jjLkc%R2sM^UQ2Q

anOKsquirrel

@TanMath Well, when did you just ask a question? All you ever ask is specific coed

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Earth (roughly)

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Okay, sent.

TanMath

12:18 AM

@anOKsquirrel I asked whether there is a way to repeat a code block in Seriously n times

anOKsquirrel

Mail Calvin A Pastry, 0 bytes:

rand al'thor

@Calvin'sHobbies Harmless (mostly)

TanMath

is that "give me the code!"?

anOKsquirrel

@TanMath how long did you try first? did you ask again?

Sherlock9

def f(n):print("\n".join(" ".join("ab"[i%2]for i in range(j,n+j))for j in range(n)))

TanMath

12:18 AM

@randal'thor why are you still here?!

Doorknob

@randal'thor Okay, Ford Prefect.

Alex A.

@TanMath He's welcome to be here if he wants to be

Zgarb

@ThomasKwa Does that work for even inputs?

Alex A.

Anyone is welcome

TanMath

@AlexA. it was a joke...

Thomas Kwa

12:19 AM

@Zgarb No, it doesn't

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Even Alex B.?

TanMath

they kicked us out, so I tried to do the same... a joke

@Calvin'sHobbies Alex C. as well

Sherlock9

@TanMath Too hostile-sounding. Maybe work on your tone a bit, is all

Thomas Kwa

@Sherlock9 what?

Doorknob

@Sherlock9 Wrong reply...?

VoteToClose

12:20 AM

@Sherlock9 No.

TanMath

@anOKsquirrel I asked again one time i think...

Zgarb

@Calvin'sHobbies J, 16 bytes, works for even and odd inputs: 'X.'{~2&|@+/~@i.

Doorknob

I think he meant to reply to TanMath

Maltysen

Pyth 14 bytes: jcQsm`%sd2^UQ2 beating CJam

Sherlock9

Sorry

Eridan

12:21 AM

Sherlock got my Python answer

Sherlock9

I have edited it now

Alex A.

:P

anOKsquirrel

@TanMath can we stop this? it's finally getting peaceful againn

Doorknob

We all know that he's trying to send the subliminal message that APL is the most unfriendly of the languages due to its non-ASCII characters

rand al'thor

@TanMath Lurking to spook the PPCG crowd :->

VoteToClose

12:22 AM

@randal'thor Boo?

Eridan

@randal'thor Best programming language is...?

Alex A.

LurkerLang420

Obiously

VoteToClose

Can someone post the link to the Dam Son picture?

rand al'thor

@VoteToClose VTC for booing ;-)

Sherlock9

@Eridan Sorry dude

Eridan

12:23 AM

Nah it's good. Mine had more whitespace in it anyways. My golfing skills are pretty meh

Thomas Kwa

@Calvin'sHobbies APL, 18 bytes and actually works: {'X.'[1+2|∘.+⍨⍳⍵]}

Alex A.

VoteToClose

Thanks. :D Needed to send it to a friend.

anOKsquirrel

Mini CG challenge: Given an integer input n, output the nth time Alex has been wrong in chat

Sherlock9

def f(n):print("\n".join(" ".join("ab"[i%2]for i in range(j,n+j))for j in range(n))) is 85 bytes in Python 3

VoteToClose

12:24 AM

@randal'thor You could've just said "for booing". The reply takes care of the rest.

Eridan

@anOKsquirrel Infinity is not a number

anOKsquirrel

@Eridan Only needs to work for finite outputs

inputs*

Thomas Kwa

@Maltysen if we're allowed to output using 1 and 0, then Zgarb's J wins.

rand al'thor

@VoteToClose Dangerous username you've got there.

Maltysen

@ThomasKwa which one? Mine is 14 bytes.

rand al'thor

12:25 AM

I bet you don't have many open questions.

Alex A.

It's especially fun to see reopen votes cast by VoteToClose.

Thomas Kwa

6 mins ago, by Zgarb

@Calvin'sHobbies J, 16 bytes, works for even and odd inputs: 'X.'{~2&|@+/~@i.

The 'X.'{ is unnecessary for output of 0 or 1

Maltysen

ah I see

VoteToClose

@randal'thor Playing with fire is what I do. ;)

@randal'thor 4, to be exact. :D

Zgarb

@ThomasKwa But there are spaces between the columns.

Thomas Kwa

12:28 AM

@Zgarb Wait, there are

Calvin's Hobbies

@Eridan strawpoll.me/6127457/r

VoteToClose

t00t :D Already a favorite challenge. — VoteToClose 9 secs ago

Alex A.

t00t?

Eridan

I don't actually know why Alex is wrong, but I just know that Alex is most definitely wrong.

VoteToClose

:D

Thomas Kwa

12:31 AM

{⍪,/⍕¨2|∘.+⍨⍳⍵} works for APL

Unfortunately that's 15 bytes

Sherlock9

@Calvin'sHobbies Do we need spaces between the columns?

anOKsquirrel

any tips on golfing r~_2#,{2%}%\/N* ?

Calvin's Hobbies

@Sherlock9 no

Thomas Kwa

@anOKsquirrel Sorry, I don't CJam

anOKsquirrel

@ThomasKwa whaaaaat?

Thomas Kwa

12:32 AM

Or whatever that language is

anOKsquirrel

CJam is in Java, not C. I feel tricked.

Sherlock9

def f(n):print("\n".join("".join(str((i+j)%2)for i in range(n))for j in range(n))) 82 bytes, Python 3

anOKsquirrel

It should me JCam.

Maltysen

@anOKsquirrel Pyth is much more clearer about its name. You should come to Pyth. ;P

Alex A.

@anOKsquirrel Square your shoulders, knees bent, breathe in during the backswing

anOKsquirrel

12:33 AM

@Maltysen but I want to go to heaven

@AlexA. kthxbai

Alex A.

If there's one place I'm definitely not going, it's heaven.

4

anOKsquirrel

is there a place for people who aren't bad, just wrong?

Alex A.

Prison

Eridan

Non-AP level classes

Zgarb

Now at 14 bytes: 'X.'{~2|+/~@i.

anOKsquirrel

12:34 AM

@Zgarb which lang?

Alex A.

J

anOKsquirrel

thanks

Thomas Kwa

APL, 12: ,/∘⍕¨2|⍳∘.+⍳

SuperJedi224

Hey guys

Alex A.

Hello Dr. Jedi

anOKsquirrel

12:37 AM

wello

SuperJedi224

anOKsquirrel

@SuperJedi224 lol

SuperJedi224

Found it while sorting through the ash of a large soup

Alex A.

> ash of a large soup

wat

anOKsquirrel

nice

Zgarb

12:38 AM

J, 11 bytes: 1":2|+/~@i.

SuperJedi224

@AlexA. A "soup" is a large random input, the "ash" of a pattern is what's left over when it stabilizes

Alex A.

Oh, okay. What's the context?

anOKsquirrel

CGOL

VoteToClose

Alex A.

@anOKsquirrel Code Golf and Old Ladies?

anOKsquirrel

12:39 AM

@AlexA. yes.

Alex A.

My grandma makes good soup

anOKsquirrel

@SuperJedi224 how do you make Golly count gliders blinkers etc

SuperJedi224

There may be a script for it, but I don't have one

TanMath

so I am working on the Seriously code @quintopia gave me: [1,2,3]RdXR

SuperJedi224

Unfortunately, I have to do it manually

anOKsquirrel

12:41 AM

@SuperJedi224 you showed my a count didn't you?

ohhhh

TanMath

now I want to do [1,2,3][2:] which means i need a while loop, but that is hard to set up in a stack based language...how do i proceed?

anOKsquirrel

@TanMath hmmmm

use CJam instead

TanMath

@anOKsquirrel hmmm?

anOKsquirrel

hmmmm

VoteToClose

@TanMath Stack-based? o-o Vitsy does it in one character. Well, a starting character and an ending character.

TanMath

12:43 AM

@anOKsquirrel i will later

@VoteToClose how?

VoteToClose

[]

While true: [1]

And technically, if you want a loop, you can also do this:

1m
<

Where you call 1m and put the loopy stuff in the line with <.

mınxomaτ

> the loopy stuff

VoteToClose

Note: loopy is informally crazy.

Calvin's Hobbies

@anOKsquirrel How does using _ instead of n help?

for codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/65051/…

anOKsquirrel

@Calvin'sHobbies You wouldn't have to declare that. I forgot, it's only for Python shell

so instead of x=input() it could be input()

Calvin's Hobbies

12:56 AM

oh

anOKsquirrel

but I'm dumb and it doesn't work

Calvin's Hobbies

Anyone want a challenge race? I'll spot you an idea for a challenge

anOKsquirrel

challenge race?

Calvin's Hobbies

We both have 1 hour (or 2 maybe) to write a challenge and the one with the most eventual upvotes wins

anOKsquirrel

cool

but no

Calvin's Hobbies

12:59 AM

No one ever accepts D: But I usually only snarkily ask when I've already got an idea ready :D

Sherlock9

@Calvin'sHobbies That's probably half the trouble

Thomas Kwa

1:11 AM

I think a really simple challenge would win

VoteToClose

@Calvin'sHobbies The checkerboard mini-challenge should be an actual question, if it's not a dupe.

Calvin's Hobbies

@VoteToClose Shhhhhhh ;)

quartata

Are we still being raided by SFF?

anOKsquirrel

idea: make the size of the checkerboard squares an input

Dennis

@ThomasKwa I'm not sure, but I don't think J has visual representations of trains.

@VoteToClose The stack snippet would only have to connect to the backend for this, which would require no modification except for a HTTP reader that allows cross-origin requests. However, I'm not sure if the new features I'm planning to implement are going to change how frontend and backend communicate.

Thomas Kwa

1:18 AM

@Dennis Too bad. I mostly write my APL trains by looking at the diagrams.

quartata

@anOKsquirrel Cellular automatons in general too

The whole family can enjoy soup

Thomas Kwa

I think we need a Conway's Game of Life challenge, since the old one was closed.

VoteToClose

@Dennis It'd be really cool to have a simple javascript line or two to automatically connect to tryitonline.

TanMath

how bad of an answer is this:

Thomas Kwa

Should I sandbox a spec?

SuperJedi224

1:19 AM

I don't know why I decided it was a good idea to manually search through 200,000 cells worth of ash patterns.

TanMath

-1

A: Count sums of two squares

Python, 133 129 bytes from itertools import* n=input() l=[];s=0 for i in range(-n,n+1):l.append(i**2) for j in product(l,l): if sum(j)==n:s+=1 print s This demonstrates the use of itertools cartesian product. Try it online

Zgarb

@Dennis You can do 9!:3 (4), which switches on tree display.

Thomas Kwa

:25759421
                   ┌─ ~ ─── /:
            ┌─ @ ──┴─ ~.
      ┌─ @ ─┴─ ,
      │            ┌─ ~ ─── / ─── *
── @ ─┤     ┌─ @: ─┴─ >:
      └─ @ ─┴─ i.

SuperJedi224

@ThomasKwa What language is that?

Zgarb

@SuperJedi224 That's J.

Thomas Kwa

1:22 AM

Okay, I give up on the formatting

VoteToClose

@TanMath It's a concise use of itertools... I guess.

Calvin's Hobbies

@ThomasKwa spiffy

Dennis

@Zgarb Oh, nice!

TanMath

@VoteToClose how could i possibly golf it? i took Mego's tips, i cannot think of more unfortunately

Dennis

@VoteToClose That's pretty much what the frontend does. The part of the actual HTTP request that connects to the backend is quite short. If StackSnippets allow external JavaScript, I could create a script that can be excluded in external webpages. I'll think about it.

VoteToClose

1:25 AM

@Dennis Shall we raise it with Meta?

Alien G

1:40 AM

Do any of you have an extra life I can have? I really need one.

El'endia Starman

anOKsquirrel

hmm, my minecraft doesn't seem to be setting my spawn point... :/

VoteToClose

Don't place your bed on air or transparent blocks. :P

anOKsquirrel

no it's a map

TanMath

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

What day of the week is Christmas? Christmas is coming quickly, which leads to the question, what day of the week is Christmas this year? But what day of the week is Christmas for any year? Write a program that can do this. This is code golf, so the shortest code wins! However, there is a major...

Check out my newest challenge. I plan to post it in a week or so

anOKsquirrel

1:43 AM

hmmm

TanMath

@anOKsquirrel hmmmm?

anOKsquirrel

@TanMath you play minecraft?

TanMath

@anOKsquirrel no...why?

anOKsquirrel

just a question

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

What day of the week is Christmas? Christmas is coming quickly, which leads to the question, what day of the week is Christmas this year? But what day of the week is Christmas for any year? Write a program that can do this. This is code golf, so the shortest code wins! However, there is a major...

Calvin's Hobbies

1:48 AM

@TanMath Probably a dupe of other day of the week challenges

VoteToClose

@TanMath For the bonus - I'd use a static bonus of -(10 + length of the string used).

TanMath

@VoteToClose not percent based?

anOKsquirrel

yeah, not percent based

Calvin's Hobbies

My new Q may be a dupe

anOKsquirrel

which one

Calvin's Hobbies

1:51 AM

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Q: Very Simple Grid Marks

Write a program or function that takes in three positive integers, W, H, and N. Print or return a W×H grid of .'s where every Nth . in normal English reading order is replaced with an X. For example, given W = 7, H = 3, N = 3, the grid is 7 characters wide and 3 high, and every third character r...

code-golf arithmetic grid

Seems likely to have been done before, but maybe not

VoteToClose

Is input H, W, N okay? @Calvin'sHobbies

Calvin's Hobbies

Yeah, just mention that thats the order in your answer

SuperJedi224

Can anyone identify this still life?

anOKsquirrel

it's a still life

SuperJedi224

Wait, I found it

conwaylife.com/wiki/Bookends

Maltysen

1:58 AM

"the 46th most common still life" how do they measure that?

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Q: Very Simple Grid Marks

Write a program or function that takes in three positive integers, W, H, and N. Print or return a W×H grid of .'s where every Nth . in normal English reading order is replaced with an X. For example, given W = 7, H = 3, N = 3, the grid is 7 characters wide and 3 high, and every third character r...

code-golf arithmetic grid

SuperJedi224

@Maltysen Some guy did an experiment once with a large number of 1024x1024 toroidal soups

Maltysen

that's so cool ^.^

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