The Nineteenth Byte

Alien G

7:13 AM

I don't get it, 5 answers but no reputation gained...? Am I doing something wrong? XD

Eh, whatever.

Alex A.

You don't get reputation when answers are posted; you get reputation from upvotes.

Downgoat

@AlienG You only get rep from answers when you accept one

Alien G

Ah, so then I'm assuming if I loose reputation, I've gained down votes?

Alex A.

Correct

Alien G

@Downgoat Oh, weird system.

Alex A.

7:16 AM

No, not really.

It doesn't make sense to get reputation if someone answers your question.

Downgoat

@AlienG You've gained down-goats :p

sorry, that was horrible

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlienG I'm confused, You only have 3 questions and 0 answers.

Alex A.

Upsheep, downgoats.

Alien G

@AlexA. I assumed since people put effort in writing an answer it would mean I did a good job on the question :3

Calvin's Hobbies

That's why question upvotes give you rep

Alien G

7:19 AM

Hm.

El'endia Starman

I put very little effort into mine. :P

Alien G

@Calvin'sHobbies Yeah, I've never posted an answer :D

Alex A.

Well, PPCG is still part of the Stack Exchange model, where you can ask a question, but just because someone answered you doesn't mean your question was well-formed and helpful to others. That's why question votes exist and reputation gained or lost by the asker is dictated by votes, not answers.

Alien G

So you only gain if people feel like you should. Got it. C:

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlienG You've actually gained 3 rep from List numbers within given ranges. +5 for the upvote and -2 for the downvote

Alex A.

7:22 AM

@phase I don't know CoffeeScript and I don't really know how to test it, but I think you can refactor part of parser.coffee to be kind of elegant. Something like maxSpaces += event.object.string.length + switch event.object.type when Objtype.Number then 0 when ...

TanMath

@Mego you didn't see my message ?

Alien G

@Calvin'sHobbies Oh, it wasn't showing the +3 before. It'd be nice to have a "Why" section for downvoting.

Alex A.

That's called the comments section ;)

Alien G

That wasn't used in this case ;_;

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Do you realize both you and @Mego are primarily black and white birds? One day one will become the other...

Alex A.

7:25 AM

Penguins aren't as colorful as magpies.

Optimizer

black and white?

both?

Alex A.

Alien G

But @AlexA. can fly.

3

>:D

I went there.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. blubberier

Optimizer

@AlexA. so black blue and white?

BBW

XD

Alex A.

7:26 AM

Also a little green and purple in there too.

Alien G

And if you use your imagination you might see all sorts of things.

Alex A.

That magpie is majestic as fuck. Then there's this penguin...

Calvin's Hobbies

Sluguin?

Alien G

Terrible jokes are terrible.

Alex A.

Uhhhh so this is a stock photo so it must be PG but seriously wtf

Optimizer

7:29 AM

even if magpies are more colorful, Alex is just plain black.

Alien G

Or it's in the wrong spectrum O_o

Optimizer

@AlexA. he's shaking the gum out of it

Alien G

He's getting lunch money.

Alex A.

Crows are related to magpies and are also rather beautiful creatures

And they're plain black

Optimizer

and wrong too

Alien G

7:30 AM

Ooh, cyan.

Alex A.

ftfy

Optimizer

for the fucks yak.. oh wait.

Alex A.

Hahah

"Fixed that for you"

Optimizer

oh you laughed even without the context then

Calvin's Hobbies

I'm sorry I brought this up. I didn't want a magpie>penguin proof ._.

Optimizer

7:32 AM

yesterday, by Optimizer

for the fuck's yake?

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Well it's already been proven, so we can move on now.

Optimizer

those two penguins are having trouble moving on

Alex A.

@Optimizer Haha. Yes, I didn't have context but what you had said sounded ridiculous enough for me to laugh.

Alien G

Then lets talk about this: Would burning a horse output more energy than it can itself?

Optimizer

@AlienG depends on the horse power ;)

Alex A.

7:33 AM

@AlienG veto

Alien G

Better yet, what if it was a MAGICAL UNICORN

Ok, next topic.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlienG Depends how you harness the energy

Optimizer

such redundancy in code golf chat room?

Alien G

@Calvin'sHobbies Set it on fire to boil water to turn turbines. Just like every other fuel we use.

Calvin's Hobbies

woosh

Alien G

7:35 AM

?

phase

@AlexA. CS can be beautiful, but I can't make it that way

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A: List numbers within given ranges

O, 75 bytes [i'(-')-", "/]{[[n'-/]{n#}d[$,.$.0=0={.@=0={;.@=0=}w;}{;;}?r]]{n{noTo}d}d}d This makes logical sense to anyone who built the language (i.e. me). The logic behind this is intense and I'm just happy that I got it working.

I'm really good at this golfing thing. Oh wait no I suck.

Alex A.

@phase I'm sure you do it justice. ;)

Optimizer

@phase Oh wait no, O suck.

ftfy

phase

@Optimizer it will be good once we implement mapping and filtering and all that cool stuff

Alien G

Martin being picky XD

0 isn't included in the positive integers group apparently.

Calvin's Hobbies

7:39 AM

Is it ever?

Alien G

So is 0 in it's own group?

Alex A.

Yes

Calvin's Hobbies

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=is+0+a+positive+integer

Alex A.

There are positive integers, negative integers, and 0, which is neither positive nor negative.

phase

0 is negative in my book

Alien G

7:40 AM

wolframalpha.com/input/?i=is+0+a+negative+integer

phase

0 + -0 = 12

Alien G

It gets "is 0 a positive number" but not "is 0 a negative number"?

Calvin's Hobbies

That is weird/embarassing

Alex A.

Well positive means >0 and negative means <0, so why would 0 be positive or negative?

Alien G

Maybe it's both.

Alex A.

7:42 AM

It's neither

@Calvin'sHobbies I don't think any of the Wolfram Alpha devs ever thought that would be asked.

Alien G

Well if you sqrt(0) you get 0, but you can't sqrt(-int) meaning it's not negative? :3

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlienG That's because 0*0 = 0, but no negative times itself is negative

Alien G

Still meaning it's not negative.

It shows all the signs of not being negative. Literally, it has no "-" sign in front of it.

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Q: Loop Detection - not that kind!

The goal of this challenge is to find the direction and area enclosed by a loop. Input: A rectangular grid consisting entirely of these characters: ^v<> (Optionally, you may also be given the dimensions of the grid before the grid itself in decimal with a prefix, suffix, and separator characte...

Alex A.

0 (number)

0 (zero; BrE: /ˈzɪərəʊ/ or AmE: /ˈziːroʊ/) is both a number and the numerical digit used to represent that number in numerals. It fulfills a central role in mathematics as the additive identity of the integers, real numbers, and many other algebraic structures. As a digit, 0 is used as a placeholder in place value systems. Names for the number 0 in English include zero, nought or (US) naught (/ˈnɔːt/), nil, or — in contexts where at least one adjacent digit distinguishes it from the letter "O" — oh or o (/ˈoʊ/). Informal or slang terms for zero include zilch and zip. Ought and aught (/ˈɔːt/), as...

> the only natural number not to be positive

> negative things, or quantities less than zero

0 is neither positive or negative.

Alien G

7:46 AM

@AlexA. What is infinity then?

Alex A.

There is a +infinity and a -infinity.

They represent the "extents" of the real line.

Alien G

Alright, I thought so.

I would of been wondering if the negatives ever just "stopped" then

In a parallel universe where negative numbers stop at -10.345432

phase

@Alex I made it be explainered

Alien G

English.

phase

I've got Domino's downstairs but I don't want to get out of my chaire

Alien G

7:48 AM

Once gain, good job.

+10

Optimizer

let me just deploy this app in a runtime in a docker container via mesos on a VM on a physical server https://t.co/fwAmQmMzEo

Tweeted by rozap_ on November 25, 2015 at 6:16 AM

god, its just taking this gif to a whole new level

Alien G

Oh, yay.

Always fun watching animals fun down stairs.

(Not)

;_;

Alex A.

> animals fun down stairs.

El'endia Starman

What about the exploding part? :P

Alien G

That's ALWAYS fun. No exceptions.

@AlexA. Why a Magpie? I never asked.

Alex A.

7:51 AM

I like them a lot.

Calvin's Hobbies

Great explanation

phase

@Calvin'sHobbies mesa? u like mesa's explanation?

Alien G

@AlexA. So then why isn't it a pic of your girlfriend?

O_o

Optimizer

oh you guys all loving dark humor so much.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlienG That would be creepy

Alex A.

7:52 AM

^

Alien G

Oh, right, we're coders. I keep forgetting.

Calvin's Hobbies

@phase I sarcastically meant Alex's explanation

Alex A.

@AlienG What does that have to do with anything?

Alien G

@AlexA. That's not socially acceptable for us because reasons.

Optimizer

what are we talking about?

Alien G

7:53 AM

No clue.

El'endia Starman

@AlienG It's not socially acceptable in general.

Alien G

The average teen these days begs to differ.

El'endia Starman

Teens are stupid.

Alien G

That hurt. :P

El'endia Starman

I say this, including my past self. :P

Calvin's Hobbies

7:54 AM

@AlienG Using a face other than yours in a public profile is invasive to that person's privacy

El'endia Starman

Even if they gave permission, it's still weird at best.

Alien G

Well, teens do it anyway.

El'endia Starman

Those teens shouldn't.

Alex A.

^

Alien G

Those teens do anyway.

El'endia Starman

7:55 AM

Don't follow their example.

Alien G

I never have, never will.

El'endia Starman

Good. :)

Optimizer

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?

Alien G

:P

@Optimizer Definitely burning unicorns, like before.

El'endia Starman

@Optimizer Alex has a magpie for his profile pic. Because he likes them. Why not his girlfriend then...?

phase

7:57 AM

does Base64 include /?

Alex A.

If someone considers you antisocial for not using a picture of someone else to represent you on the Internet, sounds like that person isn't worth listening to.

El'endia Starman

^

Alex A.

@phase I think so

Alien G

So then I might as well not have ears.

phase

@AlexA. o-lang.herokuapp.com/link/…

Alien G

7:58 AM

Oh, crap, I have to wake up really, really, early tomorrow and it's already really, really, late.

:/

Optimizer

@El'endiaStarman oh, I am good wrt that then.

Alien G

Well, you guys do what you do. Night all.

Alex A.

@phase 404

phase

@AlexA. because the permalinks are formatted ..com/code/input, which each is in base64. the / are messing the decoding up so life is sucking right now :\

Calvin's Hobbies

Hello @Martin! Maybe just it's me but you seem unparticipatory lately D:

Martin Büttner

8:00 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies In chat or in general?

Alex A.

(It's not just you. We all miss Martin.)

Calvin's Hobbies

Both

Martin Büttner

I'm sure it's just that everyone else has become much more participatory ;)

Alex A.

@phase Can you just use the %20 or whatever for /?

phase

@AlexA. Yeah, I think that's the only way to solve it

Alex A.

8:02 AM

I think Python has a URL handling package or something

That might be helpful

aditsu

Martin has been golfing my code lately :)

Calvin's Hobbies

@MartinBüttner The chat maturity age has seemed to drop by a few years lately :s

Alex A.

Nov 3 at 22:27, by Peter Taylor

I've seen the signal-to-noise ratio drop below 1% before.

Martin Büttner

@aditsu someone has to do it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

aditsu

it was supposed to be optimal.. then there you come with a brilliant idea :p

Alex A.

8:05 AM

Martin's pretty good at that

Martin Büttner

@aditsu ;) ... '.,Ser was much more brilliant than my little improvement though

@Calvin'sHobbies well... have you seen Peter lately? ;)

Calvin's Hobbies

Precisely

Internationality Poll

El'endia Starman

I voted "Of course!" mainly because it's expected of me to attend a Thanksgiving dinner. :P

(As usual, I'll be going to my grandparents' place.)

Martin Büttner

I voted "Nah" mainly because nah.

phase

damn feminists and their damn gender-neutral nouns

Alex A.

8:12 AM

Gender neutral pronouns have nothing at all to do with feminism.

Calvin's Hobbies

Blame English

phase

@AlexA. blame the LAPD

Alex A.

The Los Angeles Police Department is also unrelated to gender neutral pronouns.

I know someone who doesn't identify with a binary gender and thus was quite pleased when Facebook started offering a gender neutral alternative to his/her, etc.

Martin Büttner

I wish German had a gender-neutral pronoun like the use of "they" in English. "s/he" (or the much worse alternatives that some people have come up with) breaks the flow of the prose a lot more than a single pronoun.

Alex A.

The use of singular "they" in general has disputed acceptability in English.

phase

8:15 AM

In French, everything has a gender. That desk, that TV, everything.

Alex A.

Same with Spanish.

aditsu

Romanian too

the nasty part is that the genders for the same nouns are not the same in different languages :p

Calvin's Hobbies

What topics would you like to see in the next Calvin's Hobbies challenge?

Alex A.

All gender distinction in Japanese is entirely optional. The basic language is entirely genderless, but there's optional, occasionally gender-specific "flair" that you can add without changing the meaning.

phase

@Calvin'sHobbies all of the math

Alex A.

8:22 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies Anything but restricted source/source layout.

phase

^

it's gross

Alex A.

But I know that even if you made one of those, it would still be an awesome challenge. <3

Calvin's Hobbies

3 math. alright

Alex A.

I was one of those maths and the only two non-maths.

Nvm more people voted

El'endia Starman

I contributed two more non-maths. :P

And one of the math...

Calvin's Hobbies

8:25 AM

Mini-math-challenge: Given N, compute the largest square less than N^3. (N > 1)

xnor

strictly less than?

Calvin's Hobbies

Yes

Alex A.

Julia, 47 bytes: n->for i=n^3:-1:1 isinteger(i^.5)&&return i end

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TradeSolid is the platform where you would enjoy binary options trading at its best. It was established in the year 2008 and by now the website has more than 1000 loyal users from different parts of the world. The trading platform has offered the trading tools and applications in different langua...

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Alex A.

@NewMainPosts Hush, you.

El'endia Starman

8:29 AM

...Minkolang doesn't have int, floor, or ceil. HMM.

Alex A.

Sounds like it's time to implement a few functions.

El'endia Starman

A solution: n3;1-1Md1%-2;N.

Alex A.

I just realized it's after midnight and I have to work tomorrow. Oops. Have a good night, everyone.

phase

[j.*.*,]{n.mq.m[={p}L;?}d Prints all the squares less than it

El'endia Starman

Another solution that outputs as an integer, not a float: n3;(i2;d0c`,)xN.

xnor

8:37 AM

f=lambda n:int(n**1.499999999999999)**2

El'endia Starman

That's...clever and bad. :P

aditsu

hey guys, go to google and search for this: a long time ago in a galaxy far far away

phase

@aditsu fancy

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xnor

lambda n:int((n**3-1)**.5)**2 legitimately works

El'endia Starman

8:45 AM

@xnor And it's shorter. :)

xnor

well, lambda n:int(n**1.5-1e-9)**2 probably also works

aditsu

8:57 AM

@phase older one: do a barrel roll

Martin Büttner

9:21 AM

@xnor q~3#(mQ2# in CJam.

(also yes, what is with the downvotes on that loop challenge. I think it's great.)

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Q: Find multiple pairs

You are given a set of natural numbers. You must arrange them into pairs such that: Each pair contains 2 numbers, one of which is a multiple of another. For example, 8 is a multiple of 4, and 9 is a multiple of 9. If the same number occurs many times in the initial set, it can be used that many...

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Sp3000

9:43 AM

@Calvin'sHobbies I32,XS)M2Xh - maths challenges aka the only thing Gol><> can actually do

I do like xnor's ways though :P

Absent for a few days, too much chat in transcript

shrugs

phase

10:20 AM

oh wow 2am

quintopia

10:35 AM

oh wow 5am

@Calvin'sHobbies I picked "Other"...consider it a vote for computational geometry

Martin Büttner

11:06 AM

@aditsu woooo, an update on a CJam ticket :)

aditsu

:) 2 tickets actually

Sp3000

Woo ew

Martin Büttner

oh, nice

Martin Büttner

12:49 PM

that ~~nice~~ ~~annoying~~ nice feeling when you golf down your answer three times while writing up the explanation (of course, every time just when you're pretty much finished with the explanation)...

Dennis

1:40 PM

^

Time to pull(?) the CJam repo.

Ooh, hg is clever enough to apply diffs even if the file has been changed locally. :)

\o/ cjam.tryitonline.net/#code=MWVfMmV3cA&input=

Thanks, @aditsu!

Optimizer

input field doesnt show up

Dennis

1:58 PM

Click the pen.

Optimizer

you think i didnt try?

VoteToClose

New fancy class features allow for stuff like this:

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A: A "cheating" quine

Vitsy, 4 bytes This language feature is newer than this question, but not made for this question. iG`Z i Grab input. Since there is no input, it pushes -1 to the stack. G Get the class name of the referenced class. -1 refers to the current class. ` Read the file under the name of t...

Dennis

@Optimizer Oh. It works fine for me. What browser are you using?

Optimizer

firefox 44

Dennis

Confirmed. Dammit, Firefox.

Martin Büttner

2:04 PM

@Dennis rad

Dennis

@Optimizer It should work now.

VoteToClose

@Dennis Try it online looks awesome. :D

Dennis

@MartinBüttner I'll keep updated with the repo, i.e., I won't wait for releases. In case we need any unreleased features.

@VoteToClose :) Incremental output kinda works. It still buffers a bit though. Not sure why.

VoteToClose

:D Coolio, I'll try it out with some ws.

@Dennis feature-request A SIGINT button? Also, it seems to works fine, if a little staggery.

Martin Büttner

@Dennis time for n :)

@Dennis do you collect stdout and stderr separately? because I had some code earlier that printed to stderr at the end, but the error message was shown before the actual output. might be good to capture them in the same stream if debug is on.

Dennis

2:17 PM

@VoteToClose Already on my to-do list.

VoteToClose

/me thumbs up

Dennis

@MartinBüttner No, I just do exec 2>&1 to redirect STDERR to STDOUT.

STDERR doesn't buffer though.

Martin Büttner

ah okay

TimmyD

@aditsu Oh goody. Now Dennis can win even better... ;-)

mbomb007

2:40 PM

@aditsu Yes. That's the entire map.

VoteToClose

3:02 PM

What else should I do with Vitsy?

I'm running out of ideas. :\

Martin Büttner

3:12 PM

wooo, rep digit rep :)

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