The Nineteenth Byte

El'endia Starman

12:08 AM

42 mins ago, by El'endia Starman

For once, ESMin will do fairly well... :P

:P

Justin

Is this right? It seems that their expected output has an extra 0 on the front.

It's a hexadecimal number, after all...

Anonymous

Hi people

TanMath

@Mego hey! i have been waiting for you!

phase

@Mego i missed you

TanMath

@Mego the commands.txt has an upside down exclamation mark in 161 for some reason.

Anonymous

12:18 AM

@TanMath You're viewing it with the wrong encoding

phase

cp437

Anonymous

Hold ALT, and type "161"

TanMath

@Mego i am on mobile

@Mego on mobile, cannot do this

Anonymous

@TanMath How are you expecting to test Seriously code, then?

TanMath

@Mego using your online interpreter... I also have another trick up my sleeve! hehehe

Anonymous

12:21 AM

@TanMath Hate to break it to you, but it's broken right now

TanMath

@Mego seriously?!

phase

@Mego you should make the hex dump editable and have it compile to the correct symbols

Thomas Kwa

^

that would be very useful

TanMath

@phase agreed! i wanted to do that.. but couldn't

why does this code not work?!:

Anonymous

@phase That will be happening soon

TanMath

12:23 AM

i=raw_input()
if int(len(i)) % 2==0:print chr(((ord(i[len(i)/2])+ord(i[(len(i)/2)+1]))/2))
else: print i[-1+int(len(i)+1)/2]

it is for the find the center challenge...

here is what I have tried:

1.it works for cases when the length of the string is odd

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

o-o

that's pretty long XD

phase

@TanMath An if/else for the length waists a lot of bytes, though I don't know how to reduce it in Python

TanMath

2. when the length is even, it is supposed to go through the if, but instead goes through else.... why?!

phase

int(len(i)) why not len(i)?

TanMath

@phase idk.. i am dumb.. lemme see if that fixes

didn't fix it... now when I put "Hiya" it prints m instead of q...

@phase any other ideas?

I am never the first for answering challenges...

Anonymous

12:32 AM

print[chr(((ord(i[len(i)/2])+ord(i[(len(i)/2)+1]))/2)),i[-1+(len(i)+1)/2]][len(‌i)%2]

Anonymous

That's how you shorten if/else in python

TanMath

@Mego cool! thanks man!

question is, does it work?

Anonymous

idk try it

TanMath

trying

Anonymous

It should work the same as the code you posted

Anonymous

12:33 AM

All I did was shorten it

LegionMammal978

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Anonymous

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LegionMammal978

v

^

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

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LegionMammal978

12:38 AM

vv

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Q: May I create my own programming language, which uses existing compiler?

So, I like golfing, and I like modern C++. I am golfing in regular C++(11(14)) now, so obviously, I did not win a single challenge yet. I noticed, that both Pyth and CJam (probably languages, that win most of the time) were designed entirely for this purpose. I thought at designing my own languag...

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LegionMammal978

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Q: Negate a condition if a bool is FALSE

Let's say I have a condition expression x and that I want to check if it is TRUE or FALSE depending on the value of a boolean y: y ? x : !x Is there a way to express it without repeating x expression? Something like how we can get a number or its opposite depending on a bool, without repeating...

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Anonymous

From Meta:

Anonymous

Anonymous

12:41 AM

Dennis is not the only important person in here!

Anonymous

Also only 3 of those 6 are even still in here >_>

Anonymous

Meta get with the times yo

LegionMammal978

^^^

Dennis

@Mego Ahem.

:P

Anonymous

@Dennis You're right, I should have said "Dennis isn't even an important person" :P

Dennis

12:44 AM

bans Mego

Anonymous

@Dennis If abusing mods was bannable I would've been banned on day 3

Anonymous

@LegionMammal978 could you please stop just using ^/v? It's spammy

LegionMammal978

k

Anonymous

>_>

Dennis

@Mego Seriously?

Anonymous

12:45 AM

@Dennis No that came much later

Dennis

For realsies?

Anonymous

Yeah seriously

phase

Actually right now?!?!

Anonymous

@phase right about now

Dennis

So many great language names.

Anonymous

12:48 AM

@Dennis And then there's O

Dennis

What's golfier than a single-letter language name?

Anonymous

One with a readable compiler/interpreter

phase

A zero byte language name

4

Dennis

Now there's an idea.

LegionMammal978

Look at my new language called !

Dennis

12:51 AM

ESMin usually zero bytes for me. At least from my phone. :P

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Sparr

when did golfing tips questions become off topic? codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/64611/…

LegionMammal978

That isn't a golfing question.

It's a programming question.

Sparr

"Is there a way to express it without repeating x expression?"

he's specifically asking how to reduce his code size

Vɪʜᴀɴ

^

Dennis

@Sparr Specific, language agnostic golfing tips don't make a lot of sense IMHO.

Sparr

12:53 AM

sure, code deduplication is ALSO a general programming question, but that doesn't make it not a golf question

LegionMammal978

No, he's asking about how to do it without re-evaluating the variable.

Sparr

@Dennis want me to add the tag for every language my answer is valid in?

LegionMammal978

Like with his date.hour example.

Dennis

@Sparr Tags describe the question, not the answer.

Sparr

he doesn't care about evaluation. date.hour has no side effects. he appears to only care about the duplication of the expression.

@Dennis sure, and I'd add a tag for every language a solution was added for

LegionMammal978

12:54 AM

But the time can still change.

Sparr

language agnostic tips questions make plenty of sense

LegionMammal978

A user could run it right at the hour boundary :P

Sparr

@LegionMammal978 I don't know of a language where that is true

first, date.hour implies a member, not a method. and even if it was date.hour(), I'm not sure I've seen a language where two calls to a method in the same expression aren't evaluated in the same context.

LegionMammal978

@Sparr Language agnostic tips can be found here.

Sparr

/me needs to investigate that...

LegionMammal978

12:56 AM

Also, have you seen JS's new getters and setters?

They look like regular properties, but aren't.

Sparr

sure. back to my second assertion.

Can that actually happen? will date.hour()+date.hour() ever produce an odd number in any language you can think of?

LegionMammal978

Depends on the time.

A hacker could possibly run it at the moment the hour changes.

(Of course, that would just be poor code design.)

phase

What is 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟 anyways?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase Blackboard bold.

Sparr

@phase a terribly named language

phase

1:00 AM

oh that's dumb

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Sparr Imo the name is good

Vɪʜᴀɴ

@phase A language that only uses 4-byte squares (I think)

phase

bunch of squares on every browser ever

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase Not if you have a good browser

Sparr

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ you also think your name here is good, so your judgment is questionable.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

1:02 AM

@Sparr ...

All judgement is biased.

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Actually, while I do usually see them, they show up as squares when in a header tag (i.e., when it's like ##ESMin).

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@El'endiaStarman Huh.

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Is it me or does the word unupvote just look plain weird.

Sparr

deupvote?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Vɪʜᴀɴ It looks like the name of an element :P

Vɪʜᴀɴ

1:10 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ "Scientist have discovered a scary element named 'unupvote', you loose 10 internet points every time it is within your presence"

Anonymous

@Sparr dupevote? wait that's something different

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Vɪʜᴀɴ ...

I got a downvote

jk XD

Vɪʜᴀɴ

1:24 AM

Any feedback for my fibonacci cake proposal? I'd love to post it today (because today's fibonacci day)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Oh hey it is

El'endia Starman

@Vɪʜᴀɴ s/contracted/constructed/

Vɪʜᴀɴ

Oh my god 𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟 isn't winning the center challenge :O

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A: Find the center

𝔼𝕊𝕄𝕚𝕟, 41 chars / 66 bytes ϚĎ(((ï[˜(a=ïꝈ/2-½)]⋎⬯)ü⬮+(ï[МŠa]⋎⬯)ü⬮)/2) Try it here (Firefox only).

El'endia Starman

Which is so satisfying to see. :P

Also, it's funny how almost every single answerer put their score in bytes despite the OP's statement that characters be counted. :P

Granted, they're usually the same, but still...

Anonymous

1:45 AM

What I don't understand is why people upvoted such a horribly-defined challenge

Thomas Kwa

@Mego It's simple.

Remember codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/59436/… ?

Most REPLs do this in 1 byte... and the bonus was horribly unbalanced.

TanMath

Hey all!

Anonymous

@ThomasKwa It's simple, but underspecified

Thomas Kwa

But it was a very simple challenge, so it got +42/-8

Anonymous

What text encoding should be used for input/output? Just ASCII (0-127)? Latin-1? CP437? UTF-8? These things needs to be specified. — Mego 1 hour ago

Thomas Kwa

1:49 AM

The best text encoding is binary

'0' = char code 0
'1' = char code 1

Anonymous

:P

Thomas Kwa

Or unary

Quick, what's a language that prints 0 in 0 bytes?

Anonymous

Heh

Anonymous

Uhh

Thomas Kwa

No wait, that wouldn't work; we need to print the character

Anonymous

1:53 AM

I think Microscript will work

TanMath

@Mego your code doesn't work

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/py_compile.py", line 117, in compile
    raise py_exc
py_compile.PyCompileError:   File "prog.py", line 2
    print[chr(((ord(i[len(i)/2])+ord(i[(len(i)/2)+1]))/2)),i[-1+(len(i)+1)/2]][len(‌i)%2]
                                                                                   ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

Anonymous

@TanMath You need to do i=raw_input() first

TanMath

@Mego I know

Thomas Kwa

@TanMath What is this code?

TanMath

@ThomasKwa for the find the center challenge... In Python obviously

Thomas Kwa

1:58 AM

Oh

I didn't see an answer by Mego