The Nineteenth Byte

4:01 AM

I had a cool idea for a language that used prefix notation. It would look for the number of arguments that the operation you were trying to do needed and would call suboperations and get the answers from those. So ++324 would be like (3+2)+4

Sp3000

That's a little ambiguous for +123, right?

phase

@Sp3000 That would parse +12 first, adding them and returning 3. Then it would move on to the 3 and just output that. +123 => 33

Sp3000

So... Only single digit numbers allowed?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Anyone want to help me co-author a language? :3

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ what language would the interpreter be in?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:05 AM

@phase Prolly JavaScript, maybe Python

I could probably learn another language though

Alex A.

HEY EVERYONE

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CSS

Doorknob

@AlexA. HAI

Alex A.

5

A: Draw the national flag of France

CSS, 128 144 bytes body:before,body:after{content:'';float:left;width:33%;height:100%;background:#0055a4}body:after{float:right;background:#ef4135} No need for another tag, works solely with the body-element. Edits Saved 16 bytes by removing display:block; and some ;.

phase

@Sp3000 I was thinking about that, and I don't see a real upside to multidigit numbers

Alex A.

CSS by itself isn't TC, but HTML+CSS is.

Doorknob

4:06 AM

I don't know why we're starring Alex's "HEY" but I did it anyway

Sp3000

Well I'm not sure what you're using this for so... yeah :P

Alex A.

Does having body in there imply the existence of HTML?

Dennis

@phase That's what Pyth does.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. ... is not.

feersum

HTML+CSS isn't Turing-complete under anything like normal conditions.

phase

4:06 AM

@Dennis Wait like all of it?

Alex A.

lemire.me/blog/2011/03/08/…

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase yeah

Sp3000

Damnit Dennis, I was going to mention that later :P

Doorknob

once I saw Conway's Game of Life in pure CSS+HTML

I think that makes it TC...

phase

Pyth read my mind man

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:07 AM

@Doorknob \Really? show me

PhiNotPi

I just typed "esolang" into my university library's search and it gave no results

Alex A.

> Apparently, HTML5 + CSS3 is now also Turing complete because it can be used to program a Rule 110 automaton.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Doesn't that Rule 110 require user input?

Dennis

@phase Pyth considers 12 a single integer, but the fixed arity prefix notation is what makes Pyth so golfy.

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ HTML has inputs

Alex A.

4:07 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I don't know

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I can't find it right now :/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase When it shouldn't

phase

@Dennis Well that was a waist of a couple hours of brainstorming...

Sp3000

@PhiNotPi They just don't understand our lingo, you need "esoteric programming language"

Doorknob

but

feersum

4:08 AM

@AlexA. Can you give a primary source? After following 3 links I arrived at a dead link.

Doorknob

238

A: Is CSS turing complete?

You can encode Rule 110 in CSS3, so it's Turing-complete so long as you consider an appropriate accompanying HTML file and user interactions to be part of the “execution” of CSS. A pretty good implementation is available, and another implementation is included here (JsFiddle version): <!DOCTYPE ...

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ <input></input> is a thing

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob comment of interest

GamrCorps

Hows this for a Minecraft input method?

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ nods

GamrCorps

4:09 AM

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A: Minecraft I/O Methods

String Input, via tellraw So it actually is possible to get textual input in minecraft, though you couldnt do much with it. WARNING: THE FOLLOWING IS COMPLEX. Lets start with the actual string input. This can be achieved through a simple keyboard tellraw command (like the one in this video). Ea...

TanMath

I am back again

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@phase I know -_- I'm saying that the implementation of Rule 110 requires input when it shouldn't

phase

oh then don't do whatever it is you shouldn't do and you'll probably win or whatever

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

XD

Doorknob

Has anyone mentioned that our rules for programming languages don't require them to be TC?

Because they don't.

Can CSS add numbers, etc.?

GamrCorps

4:10 AM

Yes

Alex A.

Can you check whether a number is prime in pure CSS?

phase

I think .gif files are Turing Complete

Doorknob

@phase wat

GamrCorps

^

Eridan

I think your face is Turing complete ooo burn

Alex A.

4:11 AM

.jpg files are Turing Whogivesashit

@phase not sure if trolling

phase

Turing Complete jpg

it is implementing Busy Beaver

PhiNotPi

I found a book on 16-bit microprocessors.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. I don't think so.

@Geobits it is done

Doorknob

soon...
SO question: "Can you do primality testing in pure CSS?"
all of SO: "WHY?!"
us: "uhhhhh well"

3

Alex A.

hahaha

GamrCorps

4:15 AM

so true...

phase

I was just typing that question out

Sp3000

I think it'll be more like migrate to (whatever the theoretical Stack was)

GamrCorps

I feel like PPCG is for casuals while SO is for those who 1) have too much time on their hands and 2) enjoy insulting people for making simple mistakes. (No offense to any SO users here).

feersum

I can't see why a theoretical site would allow CSS.

phase

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:18 AM

lol

Doorknob

closed as unclear what you're asking by Doorknob, Jon Skeet, randomuser123, Jeremy Banks ♦

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Doorknob And Geobits

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Doorknob

downvoted by Geobits and a million others :P

GamrCorps

Does anyone know Geobits' downvote to upvote ratio?

Im kinda curious now

phase

@GamrCorps 99999999999999999999999999/1

GamrCorps

4:21 AM

Oh, I calculated it: on my calculator it says ERR: DIV BY 0.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I have more rep than Geobits :D

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phase

anyone want to play some smash bros

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Good night everyone, have to memorize stuff

Seadrus

what do you have to memorize @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ

phase

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ it better be Seriously operator numbers

Sp3000

4:23 AM

Do I get a free Wii U if I say yes?

phase

@Sp3000 no it's on my wii

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Seadrus @phase Hah, not that interesting. Just the ten commandments >_<

Doorknob

anyone want to play some chess :P

Sp3000

Aw, already got one of those :(

Seadrus

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ 1. Thou shalt not speak. 2-10. Why are you here

phase

4:24 AM

@Sp3000 but mine's hacked and has n64 smash and melee and project M

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Seadrus ಠ_ಠ

That's rough man

@Seadrus ...

phase

I keep thinking @Seadrus is Geobutts. It must be their personalities.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠ_ಠ @Seadrus

Doorknob

@phase but can it play Nethack

Sp3000

@Doorknob f4

phase

4:25 AM

@Doorknob I will make a homebrew Nethack just for you

Alex A.

@Sp3000 Alt+F4 to play chess

phase

@AlexA. that closed my console ;-;

Doorknob

@Sp3000 1...d5

Sp3000

g4

Doorknob

>.<

2...e6 I think I see where you're going with this

phase

4:27 AM

Are you guys playing Battleship?

Sp3000

Damnit :P

Alex A.

Yatzee!

phase

@AlexA. bless you

don't sneeze all over the screen next time

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Do you watch Studio C out of curiosity?

Alex A.

@phase No, don't bless me, holy water burns my evil skin

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ No

GamrCorps

4:29 AM

Quick question to everyone: What is your favourite number and why?

phase

@AlexA. that's why I was throwing it on you, DIE DEMON

Sp3000

142857, cyclic

Alex A.

D:

Doorknob

@GamrCorps 0 because it's zero (and it looks like a doorknob)

GamrCorps

Mine is Rayo's number because it is the biggest.

@Doorknob lol

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:29 AM

@AlexA. Oh.

Eridan

π because it's π

phase

@GamrCorps

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097494459230781640628620‌899862803482534211706798214808651328230664709384460955058223172535940812848111745‌028410270193852110555964462294895493038196442881097566593344612847564823378678316‌527120190

because it's almost Pi but not quite

Alex A.

@GamrCorps ℂ

phase

@AlexA. that's a letter ding bat

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@GamrCorps j, because I'm a hipster

Eridan

4:31 AM

@phase It's an infinite number of numbers.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

After that, gamma.

GamrCorps

Cool numbers, and I thought @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ was leaving

Eridan

The Euler-Macaroni constant

Sp3000

@Doorknob 3. Nf3 (I got a chessboard out but I'm missing a knight D:)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@GamrCorps Wait why?

Alex A.

4:31 AM

@phase ℂ = {x + iy | x, y in ℝ}

Doorknob

@Sp3000 haha. y u prevent fool's mate :P

GamrCorps

8 mins ago, by Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Good night everyone, have to memorize stuff

Doorknob

Nc6

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@GamrCorps AW SH**

I forgot about that

GamrCorps

lol

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

4:32 AM

> abandon all work, ye who enter here —aditsu

5

sighs

GamrCorps

perfect example

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

closes tab

Sp3000

@Doorknob I thought you wanted a serious game - you missed your chance :P

Doorknob

@Sp3000 serious game? Over SE chat? In the 19th byte? Impossible :P

GamrCorps

Ok I have to go. Good night everyone!

phase

4:34 AM

@GamrCorps later aligator

Alex A.

Serious anything in The Nineteenth Byte is pretty much impossible.

Eridan

Seriously

phase

I code Seriously in The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

Using "code" as a verb is so strange to me

phase

I code you a lot

I coded all night last night

I enjoy to code the program

Sp3000

4:36 AM

@Doorknob 3 .. Doorknob resigns

@Sp3000 hahaha

:P

(hovertext relevant)

:P

:P

4:38 AM

:P

Alex A.

Our tongues are too big to fit in our mouths

TanMath

0

A: Draw the national flag of France

Python, 212 bytes from turtle import * defD (): pd() fd(200) rt(90) fd(100) rt(90) fd(200) rt(90) fd(100) rt(90) pen(fillcolor="blue") D() pen(fillcolor="white ") setpos(100,0) D() pen(full color="red") setpos (200,0) D()