The Nineteenth Byte

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:00 AM

Chaine has sorting

Though I haven't published it

Doorknob

The Path to Dijkstra's Handwriting

^ an interesting read :P

Alex A.

There's actually a sequel to that: Continuing on the Path to Dijkstra's Handwriting

Doorknob

hovers over link...

Alex A.

Vlog entry

Doorknob

mmhmm

El'endia Starman

2:02 AM

@AlexA. sigh

Dennis

@Calvin'sHobbies Not sure if that was what you were getting at, but using join, 4 bytes is possible.

No, that's a shrimp

No, this is Patrick.

Anonymous

2:05 AM

@El'endiaStarman ,Sr@++

El'endia Starman

@Mego Seriously? (Is that?)

Anonymous

6 bytes of Seriously once I fixed sorting and exploding

Alex A.

It explodes when you try to sort?

El'endia Starman

Very nice.

Alex A.

That sounds like an issue you should really fix

Anonymous

2:06 AM

@AlexA. ["abc"] -> ["a","b","c"]

El'endia Starman

Oh yeah, if input is taken in one chunk, it'd have to be exploded in order to sort.

Anonymous

Yep

El'endia Starman

Unless the sorting function is smart enough...

Anonymous

Well, the sorting works on strings

Anonymous

But I need to explode it to swap the top two elements

feersum

2:08 AM

I thought only PHP abusers had to explode things.

El'endia Starman

Like if the one argument to \sort( is a string, sort the characters. If it's a list, sort the list. That sort of thing.

Dennis

Four bytes in CJam: q$(* (read, sort, shift, join)

Alex A.

@Mego Everyone get down, it's gonna blow!

El'endia Starman

@Dennis There we go.

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Like Python's sorted(iterable) function, which I use :P

Alex A.

2:09 AM

@feersum It's useful in Julia, but pretty much only when golfing, at least in my experience.

El'endia Starman

@Mego yeah

Anonymous

I'm still happy that my toddler of a language can compete with CJam and Pyth

El'endia Starman

But with an implicit ''.join().

Anonymous

@El'endiaStarman Which Seriously does if it's a string :P

Anonymous

def S_fn(srs):
    a=srs.pop()
    if type(a) is StringType:
        srs.push(''.join(sorted(a)))
    elif type(a) is ListType:
        srs.push(sorted(a))
    else:
        srs.push(math.sin(a))

El'endia Starman

2:11 AM

So why do you need to explode it? The rotation part?

Anonymous

Yep

El'endia Starman

Gotcha.

Now, imagine if that worked on strings too...

Anonymous

That's something I'm toying with adding

Anonymous

...I think I sort of have that already, actually

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

That terrible moment when you've been coding nonstop for hours and there's a bug in the code.

And the only error you get is: "missing semicolon"

phase

2:13 AM

Should this be rejected because it changes the answer for the user?

Alex A.

@phase Yes, always reject edits that attempt to golf others' code

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Yes

Can you even golf?

Alex A.

That's a newer user. My golfs were horrendous when I started.

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Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@AlexA. Mine too :P

If I could vote for my own answers, I would have .75k rep extra :P

Geobits

I'd have almost that much more if downvotes were free ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:20 AM

I FOUND THE SMALL CAPS BLOCK!

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Sum a List of Integers So, do we have a vanilla sum a list of integers challenge? I couldn't find one but I want to be sure I didn't miss the obvious before posting on the main site. This would be a catalog challenge like "Hello, World!" that tries to get the shortest answer in every language. ...

Alex A.

@NewSandboxedPosts Does there really need to be a catalog for this?

That's probably the one thing that is trivial in every language.

El'endia Starman

Pancake Stack? :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Would this be a valid entry for the french flag challenge?

<d style="font-size:10em"><s style="color:#0055A4">█</s><s style="color:white">█</s><s style="color:#EC4135">█

Geobits

@AlexA. No more trivial than a loop, and we have a catalog for that (please don't take this as an argument for this challenge in particular).

Alex A.

2:30 AM

Don't worry, I don't ;)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Catalog idea: print a character. (specific character)

El'endia Starman

"x"O.

Geobits

Catalog idea: Don't cause an error.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits "" in a lot of languages (without quotes)

Geobits

I wasn't being serious :/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:31 AM

I can tell :P

El'endia Starman

@Geobits ` `

Or ..

Vɪʜᴀɴ

I couldn't find an online xxd decode utility so I went ahead and made one:

vihanserver.tk/p/xxd

El'endia Starman

Code-blocked period is still a period. :(

Geobits

You have to wait years for periods to go away.

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orlp

@feersum an example use I can think for the fast sine

is in real-time software synths

SuperJedi224

2:34 AM

Hey guys

orlp

or real-time graphics

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Hi @SuperJedi224 :)

orlp

sadly (or maybe not sadly) it has no use on a graphics card

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Mini-challenge: Given two integer inputs, multiply them together and output them

orlp

since modern GPUs have single-cycle trigonometry

Geobits

2:35 AM

Done. My answer is 10.

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ,,*

orlp

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ *FQ

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

............ language names.

Seriously and Pyth?

Anonymous

Do you have to ask?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

just guessing

orlp

2:36 AM

pyth.herokuapp.com/?code=%2aFQ&input=3%2C+5&debug=0

Geobits

I did mine in my head. The integers involved were pretty small.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

iRiT

Doorknob

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ fn f(a:i32,b:i32)->i32{a*b}

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Is Apple moving into that market?

orlp

@Doorknob longer than java

:D

SuperJedi224

2:37 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Math++ wins. ?*?.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego ...Yes XD

Doorknob

@orlp D:

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Is there a language with implicit input?

Doorknob

GolfScript

~*

2-char GS solution

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

cool

orlp

2:37 AM

@Doorknob is the ->i32 necessary?

Geobits

long f(int a,int b){return a*b;}

SuperJedi224

@Doorknob Wait, what.

orlp

can't the compiler infer that?

Doorknob

@orlp in Rust it's required

TheDoctor

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ +, one byte

Doorknob

2:38 AM

@SuperJedi224 what what?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TheDoctor Language?

PhiNotPi

Element: __*`

orlp

f(a,b){return a*b;}

K&R C

SuperJedi224

@Doorknob I thought my three-character solution was going to win. :(

orlp

implicit int ftl

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:38 AM

+ 1 star bounty for a program that does this with emotes.

TheDoctor

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ almost any. requires integers to be placed on either side

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@TheDoctor It has to take input.

And output :P

TheDoctor

:(

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ nn*N.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

sowee

Geobits

2:39 AM

@TheDoctor I.... don't know many languages that use + for multiplication.

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TheDoctor

wait

ok got it: i'll use marbelous

orlp

honestly

+ should be increment

++ should be plus

+++ should be multiply

Geobits

Eww

orlp

++++ should be exponentiation

+++++ repeated exponentiation...

El'endia Starman

Too many bytes!!

Anonymous

2:40 AM

^

Doorknob

@orlp tetration, iirc :P

TheDoctor

marbelous always wins *at losing

El'endia Starman

I like the name "power tower". :D

TheDoctor

@orlp and ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++‌+++++++++++ represents knuth up-arrow notation

TanMath

Hey all!

SuperJedi224

2:42 AM

@TanMath Hi

HIYA

fun fact

?

hmmmmm why is it that whenever @TanMath appears the star abuse begins :P

4

Geobits

recursion contains the word recursion in itself!

orlp

2:43 AM

2 +++++ n = A(4, n - 3) + 3

where A is the ackermann function

TanMath

@Doorknob huh? I promise you it is not me!

I am hurt!

Doorknob

'tis but a joke ;)

Geobits

Jokes hurt when they come from cold, metal objects.

Seadrus

or from the orifice known as @Doorknob's mouth.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Seadrus ಠ_ಠ

Doorknob

2:46 AM

I don't have a mouth I have a keyhole

Anonymous

@Seadrus You really are @Geobits's sock; you two said the same thing

2

Geobits

Yep, you totally caught me. Congratulations.

Anonymous

\o/

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

If @Geobits had a son, @Seadrus would be it.

Seadrus

I have been ousted.

Doorknob

2:47 AM

> it

Geobits

I guess I can request that account be deleted now that I've been found out ;)

4

Seadrus

> it

Anonymous

< ti

Seadrus

Haha, but why would I want to do that? :P

Geobits

@Doorknob, can you handle that for me?

Seadrus

2:48 AM

@Doorknob Nevermind, you're probably too busy.

Doorknob

> handle

4

puns :D

Anonymous

It'll be nice when the star abusers run out of stars

9

Seadrus

@Geobits You're such a downer.

Geobits

You're just now figuring that out? :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^ the rare and elusive Geobit emote

Alex A.

2:50 AM

It's not that rare

Geobits

Rare? Elusive?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Mhm.

^_^

Anonymous

3 mins ago, by Seadrus

Haha, but why would I want to do that? :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego He thinks he can get away with it there.

El'endia Starman

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ ...do a chat search for :P said by Geobits.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:51 AM

:P

@El'endiaStarman I know, ~10k results

Geobits

Hey, I have a condition where my tongue hangs down sometimes. That's not an emote, and it's kinda rude to point it out like that.

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Seadrus

(My doctor worries about me.)

Geobits

The ;) is a twitch developed a couple years ago, so don't count that either.

Seadrus

(My mother worries about me.)

Geobits

My doppleganger is about to be ignored, which I've never done to anyone. Congrats.

Seadrus

2:53 AM

o-o

You can ignore people?

SuperJedi224

...

Alex A.

@Seadrus Yes

Seadrus

Huh.

Anonymous

@Seadrus Click on username, hit ignore. Massively useful for annoying people.

Seadrus

Cool!

Anonymous

2:54 AM

Why do you ask?

Seadrus

whoops

How can I un-ignore someone?

Anonymous

Same way

Seadrus

Their username disappeared.

Anonymous

They'll still be a small square in the userlist to the upper right

Seadrus

erm

I ignored everybody

;-;

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:56 AM

...

silence at last

3

SuperJedi224

@Seadrus Why.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@SuperJedi224 I don't think he heard you :P

Anonymous

Luckily, if you ignore everybody, you can still see starred messages. Click the avatars in the userlist on the upper right to un-ignore people. (star this so he can see)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

wait no

don't do that

El'endia Starman

> Gee, sure is quiet in here. Where's everybody?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:58 AM

It's quiet in here finally!

Anonymous

> It's quiet. Too quiet...

Seadrus

i look to the starboard for some sign of life beyond the stars...