The Nineteenth Byte

Alex A.

8:00 PM

@PhiNotPi Are you a slow typist? (Not judging, just wondering.)

Geobits

And basically the only time I ever get mad enough to do that, it's because I'm on the phone with an idiot.

PhiNotPi

No, I rewrote the whole thing multiple times.

Alex A.

Ah, okay

PhiNotPi

But I'm also probably a slow typist.

It's not mutually exclusive.

Alex A.

Haha

Optimizer

8:07 PM

^

2

Beta Decay

8:17 PM

That's why he chose code golf over code kata

Geobits

I assumed it was because code kata doesn't make any sense (at least the explanations I've seen of it :)

Beta Decay

My CS teacher tried to get me to do it...

The instructions said that this doesn't involve any programming

Alex A.

I don't know what it is.

Geobits

There's this new thing called Google that can help with that :P

Beta Decay

codekata.com

Doorknob

8:22 PM

@Geobits Alphabet*

Alex A.

@Doorknob The search engine is still Google

Alphabet is Google's new parent company.

quartata

Dammit I'm trying to do this tell time in french challenge and I can't find a list of French numbers anywhere on the Internet

I mean I could type them out but why should I have to

Geobits

Alphabet doesn't seem nearly as helpful.

Alex A.

@quartata blogs.transparent.com/french/…

quartata

Thanks

Geobits

8:24 PM

Unless you like large, jittery, zooming images, that is.

quartata

I don't google very effectively usually

Beta Decay

@quartata French numbers are just plain weird

quartata

@BetaDecay I know, right?

Four = cat

OK

Numbers drove me nuts when I was learning French

Beta Decay

Four = quatre...

quartata

To me at least it sounds like cat though

(I know it's not spelled cat...)

Anyways here we go codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/58738/…

Beta Decay

8:26 PM

@fatalize @flawr Can you explain the French number system?

For 90 and 70

Alex A.

Fatalize has never been in here, you can't ping him.

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Can I Choose not to Fly? Inspired by a chat conversation I lurked. I am an adventurer on the far away land of Zendikar. I truly enjoy traveling by land. Bushwhacking, weathering the roil and encountering strange and exotic flora and fauna are the highlights of any good adventure. Unfortunately,...

Alex A.

(Or if he has it's been too long)

quartata

rip

Alex A.

Haha he's not dead

Beta Decay

8:27 PM

@quartata You could have made this much more interesting

quartata

@BetaDecay How, exactly?

Alex A.

(well he could be, I guess I don't know for sure...)

quartata

I mean I thought it was pretty cool

Beta Decay

Such as il est dix heures moins quatre

Alex A.

@flawr You are needed

Beta Decay

8:28 PM

And il est dix heures et quart

quartata

Oh you mean the examples?

Beta Decay

Yeah

quartata

I mean those are just examples

The idea is that they print out the current time in French

Beta Decay

Oh I see never mind

quartata

I didn't think it was a big deal to make the examples a little boring :P

New Main Posts

8:29 PM

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Q: Telling time in French

Bonjour, PPCG! Quelle heure est-il? This means what time is it in French, for that is exactly what this challenge is about. Telling time in French (at least formally) is a bit different from telling time in English. Telling the time starts out with Il est (It is). Then, you put the hour followed...

quartata

Damn someone noticed that I forgot to say current local time

It's been 30 seconds and that comment already has two upvotes

Too observant

Beta Decay

One courtesy of me :)

quartata

Now back to thinking about ways to make chain of conspiracy work now that I've posted my free rep farm I mean uh challenge

I'm gonna make an ASCII art bunny with a pancake on its head pop-con

Since that's what Calvin said to do if I wanted all the upvotes llfoelozloelozloezlolelelezl

So for ascii art challenges

Is there anything I need to specify other than it's pop-con, here's what you need to draw have fun?

Zgarb

8:52 PM

@quartata That sort of a challenge would get closed pretty fast.

quartata

@Zgarb Why?

Zgarb

There's no objective winning criterion.

Or rather, no guidelines for voting.

"Draw a bunny, best bunny wins" is more of an art contest than programming challenge.

quartata

It's popularity contest, so most upvotes win

Or at least I thought that's how it works

Oh I see what you mean

El'endia Starman

If you gave a specific ASCII drawing and said "output this", then that would probably be better. If it's code-golf, then it becomes kolmogorov-complexity.

quartata

It's popularity contest

It wouldn't work as code golf obviously

El'endia Starman

8:58 PM

Wellll....

quartata

I just figured you know people would like good looking bunnies with pancakes or ones in funny languages or stuff. I didn't really think I needed a criteria per se for populairty contest

Alex A.

Still does.

quartata

Hmm

Alex A.

I would mod close it if it were just an art contest.

Thanks for the edit @Doorknob :P

Doorknob

Hey, someone noticed one of my ninja grammar edits :P

El'endia Starman

9:00 PM

Two ASCII art code golfs I participated in: Draw a Houndstooth Pattern and 16-bit binary grid. All questions tagged with both tags.

Alex A.

Those are both very specific, good challenges.

Zgarb

@quartata My personal opinion is that popularity-contest is first and foremost for challenges where you have a scoring criterion that's hard to compute, but easy for humans to judge semi-objectively.

minxomat

The latter not really being ASCII art

Alex A.

^

quartata

OK thanks

Zgarb

9:00 PM

Of course there are exceptions, but they are rare and hard to come up with.

undergroundmonorail

bad popcon question: write a program that gets the most upvotes

Alex A.

Pretty much everything @Calvin'sHobbies makes is gold.

quartata

Alright well I'll just scrap this and think of something else

Doorknob

quick @Calvin'sHobbies, post some spam

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Gold or golf?

Alex A.

9:02 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies Who said anything about golf? >.>

quartata

MAKE US SOME GOLD

El'endia Starman

Gold golf.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Doorknob I do have questions about backwards spam

El'endia Starman

hmm

3

Calvin's Hobbies

@PhiNotPi Is it still alright for me to use your music in my videos? I'm planning on using Serene in a new Minecraft tutorial that I should be uploading later today.

Alex A.

9:12 PM

:D

Rainbolt

9:26 PM

Some people on meta are so nice.

Alex A.

Some are not.

Rainbolt

One of them tracked me down into this room and started fussing

Alex A.

In here?

Rainbolt

Yea, in here

Alex A.

What were they fussing about?

Rainbolt

9:29 PM

I do not remember

But Anna Lear is super nice, and so is Grace Note.

Alex A.

SE employees ;)

They have to be nice.

Rainbolt

Oh you shouldn't have told me that!

I thought they were genuinely nice people and now I am concerned that it might be a facade. I was a happier guy thinking that they were just nice people.

Alex A.

I think they are genuinely nice. But they're employees.

Calvin's Hobbies

@AlexA. Is SE HQ like Disneyland?

Alex A.

haha

Rainbolt

9:33 PM

SO HQ*

Alex A.

The first rule of SE is "Be Nice."

The second rule of SE is you don't talk about SE.

Rainbolt

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

We're Changing Our Name (Back) to Stack Overflow

Jay Hanlon on September 15, 2015

We are Stack Overflow. You may know us from such popular websites as Stack Overflow Q&A, Stack Overflow Careers, The Stack Exchange Q&A Network, and most of your Google search results.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Rainbolt I bet they pronounce it "sock"

Alex A.

SE

minxomat

Sock Overflow

Alex A.

9:34 PM

I think that's an apt description of this room at times. :P

Zach Gates

Good afternoon

minxomat

@ZachGates It's 11.30pm here ^^

Zach Gates

Good.. night?

It's 4:35pm here :P

minxomat

Nah, I have a flight a 4am

Alex A.

@minxomat You must be west of the UK!

Zach Gates

9:36 PM

^

minxomat

I'm in Germany.

Alex A.

It's 2:35pm here.

Ah, okay. So many German folks here. It's neat!

@AlexA. West coast?

Yep

How's the weather?

9:39 PM

Overcast. Rained last night.

Zach Gates

Darn

Alex A.

Why?

Zach Gates

I assumed you didn't like overcast weather

Calvin's Hobbies

I didn't now SO has so many potential logos.

Zach Gates

Most people don't

Calvin's Hobbies

9:42 PM

Zach Gates

Some of these are awful

Calvin's Hobbies

I like the clown

Alex A.

@ZachGates I don't mind it. I'm in the Pacific Northwest so I'm used to it.

Zach Gates

@AlexA. Personally, I enjoy the rain (:

Alex A.

Yeah, it can be nice.

minxomat

9:49 PM

Here's a controversial topic: What's your favorite color scheme (if any): Light, solarized, twilight, obsidian ...?

Alex A.

I use solarized dark sometimes but in general I don't care a whole lot.

Default

^

Solarized.

Didn't even know there were other color schemes on SE

Is that an option?

Doorknob

9:50 PM

(dark, not light)

@quartata Huh? No, not without a userscript.

minxomat

Not talking about SE.

quartata

Oh. Der

So you just mean in general?

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Redirect a user to an XKCD comic Challenge: Make a program so that, when run, opens any XKCD comic in a browser (any browser). This is a code-golf, so the shortest program in bytes wins. Any suggestions? Is it too simple? Etc.

minxomat

Yeah, like for the editor you use the most.

quartata

Well I use vi which doesn't really have many eyecandy options

My terminal is white background black font

So I guess Light is what I like?

flawr

9:52 PM

Heyho

Doorknob

I use both my terminal and vim with Solarized

Alex A.

(dark, not light)

quartata

?

If the backgrounds white I'd consider that Light :P

flawr

@BetaDecay What is there to explain?

Alex A.

4 mins ago, by Doorknob

(dark, not light)

I was referring to Doorknob's use of solarized. He uses dark, not light.

minxomat

9:55 PM

Here's an overview of the more popular styles: codemirror.net/demo/theme.html @quartata

quartata

Wow that's a lot of themes

I never knew people took colors so seriously

Alex A.

@Calvin'sHobbies Some of these logos are crap.

I love the pancakes though.

What... is that?

Oh... god

9:59 PM

o.o

quartata

Lot of pancakes

Calvin's Hobbies

Pancake hides

Rainbolt

Whatever is it, I want a bite

flawr

Went skiing with a bunch of friends a few years ago and promised to make Ameletä (swiss version of pancakes) for the whole group=)

quartata

You gonna share?

Rainbolt

10:00 PM

You made pancake... cake.

flawr

@Rainbolt OMG I have to do this!!

Zach Gates

Ovencake*

Rainbolt

Or maybe pancake pile is a better word

flawr

A few layers of fruit jam and cinnamon sugar in between.

Rainbolt

I wonder if a seven layer cake would taste any good with pancakes as the layers. I might try that too.

Is pancake mix significantly different than cake mix?

Calvin's Hobbies

10:01 PM

Les spuffy?

3

Alex A.

@flawr Are they like Hungarian palacsinta?

@Calvin'sHobbies Spuffy?

Calvin's Hobbies

Spuffy.

flawr

@AlexA. I do not know, never had those?

Alex A.

They're awesome.

Rainbolt

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Spuffy

flawr

10:05 PM

@AlexA. Looks pretty similar. Our Ameletä are made of eggs (about 1-2 eggs per person) then adding flour and milk and some salt (well just very little). And we eat them with anything sweet (jam, honey, cinnamon sugar, etc) but also satly like slices of meat, cheese etc.

2

Thinckness between crèpes and pancakes.

quartata

Oh man

I'd love a couple of those and some salami

Or rolled up dipped in cinnamon sugar

flawr

They are super easy to do!

quartata

Full recipe pls

Alex A.

Palacsinta is thin, about like crepes, perhaps thinner.

@quartata Cinnamon and salami.

quartata

I wouldn't eat them simultaneously

I meant two separate meal snack things

flawr

10:06 PM

Simultaneously works too, honey+cheese=awesome.

Alex A.

Honey is good. But cheese? Gross.

(I'm lactose intolerant though, so I might be biased against dairy. :P)

flawr

@AlexA. There is not much lactose in good ripe cheese.

Or whatever the right adjective is.

quartata

@flawr My mom is lactose intolerant and just a little cheese can basically ruin a meal for her.

But I've seen her eat yogurt before so it's kinda strange.

Alex A.

I just avoid dairy altogether.

flawr

Oh noh=( Well processed milk often does not contain much lactose anymore AFAIK.

quartata

10:11 PM

@AlexA. Almond or soy milk?

Alex A.

Soy for cereal, almond for baking.

I should say: soy for everything but baking, almond for baking.

quartata

Cool. I've never had soy milk before but I really like almond milk as just a drink. (Not great for cereal though)

Alex A.

Have you had almond yogurt?

I've had some that's actually really good.

quartata

Hmm

Intriguing

I've never heard of almond yogurt before. My grocery store has a lot of almond and soy milk stuff (even cashew milk apparently) but I haven't seen almond yogurt there.

Maybe I just wasn't looking hard enough though :P

Alex A.

Soy yogurt is okay sometimes too.

quartata

10:14 PM

@AlexA. That I have seen.

Alex A.

Cashew milk is good for cooking I've heard.

flawr

@quartata Ok: Take a bowl, add about 1-2 eggs per person, add a pinch of salt. Then for each egg add a very full tablespoon of flour (sucht that it forms a mountain on the spoon) and about the same volume of milk. Then stir with a wisk. If it seems too few, just add more milk and flour. (You can change the consistency however you like it: more milk=>thinner, more flour=>thicker.) I usually make a consistency that is thicker than water, but still a bit thinner than sirup.

Take a frying pan, heat it up (does not to bee on full heat) and melt a little bit of butter (so it won't stick, needs less than a tablespoon, you have to repeat this after every few ameletä). Take a decent sized laddle, fill it with the dough-sauce and empty it into the frying pan. (Hold the fryingpan and tilt it for evenly distributing the dough-sauce.) When the upper side has gotten dry, it is time to flip it over.

This can be done with a spattle (boring) or (not so boring) by flipping it in mid air like in the comics. (Do not do this if you just added the butter...)

For doing so rattle the (dry on top) ameletä somewhat to the rim further away from you, then quickly jerk the pan upward with a simultaneous tilting motion towards you. Keep your eyes on the ameletä and observe the rotation, catch the ameletä by moving the pan down again. together by toothpick).

I recommend putting a plate into the (somewhat heated) oven for storing the already made ameletä and keeping them warm. The ameletä can also be put into the freezer and eaten cold, makes a nice appetizer when you roll in sone soft cheese, ham or salmon and cut it into small pieces (held together by toothpick).

Alex A.

Same way you make palacsinta! :D

flawr

(I forgot to say: I usually try to spread the dough-sauce over the whole floor of the pan. Large ameletä => more stuff fits in there.)

@AlexA. So what problems did you have with the French numbers?

Oh ok.

Alex A.

10:34 PM

I had no issues

I think it was @quartata

flawr

PS: I still did not find out what exactly is renaming itself to stack overflow, did you?

Alex A.

It's the company Stack Exchange

They're changing their name (back) to Stack Overflow

El'endia Starman

@flawr Stack Overflow, the company, renamed itself to Stack Exchange some time ago, and much more recently, rerenamed themselves back to Stack Overflow as that's their flagship product.

There was a blog post on this.

We're Changing Our Name (Back) to Stack Overflow

Jay Hanlon on September 15, 2015

We are Stack Overflow. You may know us from such popular websites as Stack Overflow Q&A, Stack Overflow Careers, The Stack Exchange Q&A Network, and most of your Google search results.

Alex A.

Why my Internet so weird ;-;

flawr

I read this blog post, but I just did not get what was renaming itself to StackOverflow again=)

El'endia Starman

10:40 PM

Ahh, gotcha.

PhiNotPi

11:01 PM

@Calvin'sHobbies sure, knock yourself out.

Alex A.

gives self concussion

Martin Büttner

wow ... over the past few months or so, meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/1078/8478 went from being a valid loophole almost down to a 0-score

Doorknob

std::vector of length 24, capacity -9

I think something's wrong here

Alex A.

Hm.

@MartinBüttner It's been a relatively low score for about as long as I've known it was there.

Doorknob

IIRC that used to be at around +35

Martin Büttner

11:05 PM

really? I think only a few months ago it was fairly close to the 2:1 vote rule such that I always needed to clarify that it's not valid for people who can't see vote breakdowns

and before that it's been a valid loophole for a fairly long time

Alex A.

...maybe I haven't known it's existed for very long >.>

dG

:wq

Doorknob

Blegghhh.

That was a... fun bug

Alex A.

You know the word "deleted" doesn't have an apostrophe in it...

I gotta update my local Snowman

Doorknob