The Nineteenth Byte

Calvin's Hobbies

4:07 PM

@TheBestOne I know. I'm very used to that.

Optimizer

4:22 PM

so.. should I post a meta post somewhere about the case of my missing bronze badge ?

can data.se give me a day-wise list of my bronze badges ?

pretty sure i had 85 last week.

TheBestOne

@MartinBüttner When will you do your Conquer the Solar System challenge?

Rainbolt

I asked a Code Review mod how they determine what best practice is.

in The 2nd Monitor, 6 mins ago, by rolfl

@Rainbolt By applying what is already understood to be best practice, by applying common conventions that are used... and, @Rainbolt - by doing the opposite of Code Golf ;-)

It would appear that by signing up for six new sites (StackEgg mania) I have surpassed 10k rep.

Optimizer

@Rainbolt @MartinBüttner @Doorknob

Geobits

That means you should now have the pleasure of seeing chat flags. Have fun with that.

Optimizer

Mods vs Mods - fight

Calvin's Hobbies

4:30 PM

Speaking of badges, when did @MartinBüttner get gold number 11?

Optimizer

march 30 ?

Geobits

Populist for fifty shades: codegolf.stackexchange.com/help/badges/49/populist?userid=8478

Calvin's Hobbies

Damn that populist...

Oh well, I'm 2 questions away from socratic

Optimizer

wow nice!

lets just ping (poke) him a lot today

@MartinBüttner woo congrats !

rolfl

in The 2nd Monitor, Mar 24 '14 at 1:49, by Doorknob

See you mortal enemies later. :-)

We always win ;p

Optimizer

4:36 PM

@rolfl keep dreaming !

wow, pretty sure this is not the right path -

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A: The race has started. Are you running?

This is just a friendly reminder to vote. You have 40 votes to use every day, and I don't see many reasons to not use them all. Your voting on answers is what makes the reviewing process fun. In case you don't think I practice what I preach.

Geobits

@Optimizer Ours wasn't much better in that regard:

> We've each got 40 votes a day. Let's all use them to our advantage. Vote up any fun or interesting challenge, and any good solution, preferrably ones with explanations.

rolfl

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Q: Code Review Graduation

I am pleased to announce that effective from September 22, Code Review has graduated! It has taken a bit of time for this announcement to filter through the red tape, so, today was the day we found out. Let's use this as a place to discuss, celebrate, and otherwise commiserate. Notes: Code Rev...

Ours was somewhat effective ;-)

Geobits

Meh, still not enough downvotes happening :P

Rainbolt

Using the current indicators for a healthy beta site, if we all upvoted 40 posts per day and never downvoted, we would probably be the healthiest beta site in existence. Quality... well... who needs that?

Geobits

@Rainbolt We should also each post a few junk questions, too. We need our Q/day stat up ;)

orlp

4:43 PM

fun fact

Geobits

That wasn't fun or a fact

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orlp

I once wrote code where it was faster to not check for integer overflow, producing incorrect results

but because it was a monte carlo method, the incorrect results didn't matter

so the code is 'bugged', but is faster and correct :)

Optimizer

I think PPCG being a bit different from normal SE sites, (where people post a lot about their problems) can never have a very high Q/day

and because of that difference only, we have a very high answer ratio

Rainbolt

@Geobits What does this comment remind you of?

@diego "This data does not exist." is a valid answer. "If it exists, I cannot find it." would be another valid answer. — Rainbolt 12 secs ago

Calvin's Hobbies

@Optimizer That's what I've always said. We should get Martin to talk to the graduators about that.

Optimizer

4:47 PM

its more about competition here which warrants quality and well thought through questions with complete information

@Calvin'sHobbies totally

but then again

what do we get from graduation :D

he wont bother much, as always he hadn't

orlp

security

Calvin's Hobbies

Dignity?

Nifty icons?

Optimizer

fun ?

orlp

a beta can be shutdown at any moment

'sorry, fuck you'

Optimizer

@orlp not healthy one like ours

orlp

4:48 PM

a main site is harder to just shut down like that

Optimizer

and if a main site is not performing, it can too

orlp

@Optimizer then why are we beta?

Optimizer

@orlp who knows

orlp

the whole point of a beta is to see if it works

Geobits

@Rainbolt It reminds me of the babe... The babe with the power...

Rainbolt

4:48 PM

Beta sites get shut down after exactly four days of neglecting any particular aspect of the site.

orlp

if it clearly works, there's no point of being beta

Optimizer

if getting stats is the only factor, then why is CR not a beta ?

Rainbolt

@Geobits I was hoping it would remind you of our religious debate lol

Geobits

@Optimizer Getting stats isn't the only factor.

orlp

@Rainbolt maybe we should ask more questions to attract more traffic

and downvote for quality

Optimizer

4:49 PM

@Geobits dude.

Geobits

@Rainbolt It was familiar, just couldn't place.

orlp

do we still have a moderator flag left, now buetnerr is moderator?

Optimizer

@Geobits I said the exact same thing . blindo :P

Geobits

@Optimizer Blindo? I'm still not seeing exactly that. I see an ambiguous line that could maybe be taken that way, or completely the opposite.

But okay.

Optimizer

@Geobits see the line above it

Geobits

4:51 PM

> if it clearly works, there's no point of being beta

:P

Optimizer

if getting stats was the only factor. Which I think, clearly implies that I am referring that getting stats isn't

needs more that

Calvin's Hobbies

Blog - Stack Exchange: When Will My Site Graduate?

Robert Cartaino on October 20, 2010

At 90 days into beta, we’re supposed to evaluate each Area 51 beta site and either “pass” or “fail” them as full Stack Exchange sites. Some sites feel they’re not going to make it.

The Geographic Information Systems SE site has one more day of beta. We are Excellent in Qs answered and answer ratio, Okay in visits/day and Worrying in number of questions and number of avid users.

Are the admins planning to shut us down?

Please don’t! We may be small, but we’re good and growing. I’ve been working in the GIS field for almost 15 years and been acti …

We are way past the 90 day mark...

Geobits

@Optimizer Or you're legitimately asking why CR is graduating. That's what I thought.

Rainbolt

@orlp Of course we'll still have moderator flags. Why wouldn't we?

Optimizer

@Geobits haha, I was giving an example proving my point that stats generally dont matter strictly

Geobits

4:53 PM

You get an extra flag once you graduate, too.

Optimizer

@Geobits but raiders try to keep using them

orlp

shit

will raiders restart PPCG?

Optimizer

they are trying even now

orlp

5:04 PM

zzz

people misspelling my name as orip

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Write code with the character count being the answer count You know, code-golfing is really cool. People take all sorts of code, and compact it into teeny-tiny byte-sized code! But I want to take it to the extreme, one- and two-characters long! So, here is my challenge: Write any code, with the ...

Optimizer

pretty sure its o reversed h and opposite b

orlp

@Optimizer I think you might have some keming issues

Rainbolt

I love Urban Dictionary's take on this. "What the font were you thinking?"

Geobits

Most [answer-chaining] challenges make answers harder or more interesting as the chain gets bigger, right? I feel this proposal does the opposite, but I've already killed (or helped kill) two of his proposals today. Anyone else have an opinion?

Sp3000

5:21 PM

I commented once, I don't feel like commenting again :/

But basically as it stands the longer it gets the more padding there'll be

randomra

idea: going back from 100-length codes, and print every answers first char

@Geobits

Geobits

So answer 98 prints the first character from answer 99?

Or the first chars from 99 and 100?

randomra

99 and 100, in answer order

Geobits

Hmm. So what does 100 output, nothing?

100 chars to output nothing. Sounds like a job for Java!

randomra

maybe decrease length by 5, as there won't be that much answer, around the 50's is the interesting part

Geobits

5:26 PM

Go ahead and make the suggestion on the sandbox post, it sounds better to me.

randomra

@Geobits nothing seems fine

can you do, if you have time

I can't type much nowdays :(

Geobits

I've been actively trying to not comment on it lol.

Martin Büttner

@Calvin'sHobbies the other day. ;)

@orlp I am amazed how you consistently get the umlaut transliteration right but the consonants wrong ;)

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Sp3000

Gotta get used to Martin Bluer

Martin Büttner

@Geobits I'm actually visiting my family this week(end) ... hence only sporadic activity. ;)

randomra

5:35 PM

added comment (meta.codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/5019/7311)

Martin Büttner

@TheBestOne some day ;)

Calvin's Hobbies

@Sp3000 I still say M suffices

Were no languages made in 2011?

Geobits

I guess I'm just G then.

Sp3000

I'm still waiting :( there are 2011 ones, just nobody posting

Dart's probably the main one

Doorknob

@MartinBüttner Want the honor of [status-completed]'ing this? :P

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Q: Replacement moderator proposal

As some of you know, I've joined Stack Exchange today as a core developer. As such, I'll be stepping down as a moderator. It's been a fun four years, and I'll miss this community a lot. In exiting my moderation role, I've been thinking about whom I'd like to see join on as a moderator in my plac...

discussion moderators

Martin Büttner

5:48 PM

done, thanks ;)

rcrmn

Congratulations!

Geobits

@Sp3000 I was wanting to post for Go (2009), so I can't do 2011 or I'll have to sit it out :(

Sp3000

Man, 2009's where all the cool stuff happens

Optimizer

like ?

Martin Büttner

I won't post again until we get to 2005

Sp3000

5:54 PM

Coffeescript, ><> and Velato

Geobits

@Optimizer I moved to Japan in 2009, that was pretty damned cool ;)

Sp3000

@MartinBüttner Prelude? :D

randomra

@Sp3000 I checked, whether you can post ><> :)

Martin Büttner

@Sp3000 :)

(although GCD will be horrible)

Sp3000

@randomra Were you thinking of doing ><> too?

Optimizer

5:55 PM

@Geobits that is cool

randomra

@Sp3000 not that much

writing the p1- ><> now

Sp3000

Ah k

Geobits

I'd like to get 1985 (QuickBasic) too, but that might take a while. Good ol' QBasic... I spent way too much time with that as a kid :)

Sp3000

By the time we get to, say, Common Lisp, Retina will be on +50 or something :P

TheBestOne

Plankalkül

Plankalkül (German pronunciation: [ˈplaːnkalkyːl], "Plan Calculus") is a programming language designed for engineering purposes by Konrad Zuse between 1943 and 1945. It was the first high-level non-von Neumann programming language to be designed for a computer. Also, notes survive with scribblings about such a plan calculation dating back to 1941. Plankalkül was not published at that time owing to a combination of factors such as conditions in wartime and postwar Germany and his efforts to commercialise the Z3 computer and its successors. In 1944 Zuse met with the German logician and philosopher...

Martin Büttner

6:05 PM

@Sp3000 I'm honestly quite baffled how many upvotes it got without any explanation

Sp3000

"Retina is a regex-based programming language" then proceed to solve task 2 and 3 is enough for most people, I think :P

Martin Büttner

well, gotta head out again... when I get back tonight, I'll finish that explanation and then start finding my way around this moderation thing ;)

Sp3000

:) once again, congrats

TheBestOne

6:24 PM

Ignore Question Marks.

Sp3000

in Red vs. Blue - Pixel Team Battlebots, yesterday, by Sp3000

Tiny hint: It's better to be below than above ;D

orlp

@MartinBüttner I'm sorry Mr. Buettnerr

:D

Rainbolt

6:41 PM

@orlp I hereby dub thee örrlep.

Sp3000

7:03 PM

Hooray, Dart is in

Calvin's Hobbies

Dart

Yep

Sp3000

This could be a guessing game - I reckon Rust is next :P

PhiNotPi

7:21 PM

Finally finished Element. I had to reacquaint myself, rather painfully, with all the quirks in the language.

Sp3000

Nice :)

randomra

this was updated:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Shortening code (No title, some help please?) I'd like to give credit to randomra, who helped me with my old idea and gave me this new one. You know, code-golfing is really cool. People take a challenge, and it slowly gets smaller! But let's speed this up extremely. So, here is my challenge...

Red Team Chat for Pixel Team Battlebots

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