The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

00:00

it's pretty much not a concern today :p

Seggan

@lyxal because were just copying older posts to make us seem actually decent :P

emanresu A

They're mostly a thing of the past but it's good to be able to reliably ping someone

lyxal

the info tab can help with that

emanresu A

even so it's less effort to just have people keep (mostly) consistent usernames

lyxal

for sure

it's just something I find funny that's managed to persist as a reason to vote for someone

DLosc

00:22

brb, changing my name since I'm not planning to run for RO

ATaco

BRB, force nominating DLosc

emanresu A

01:18

@NewPosts This has two downvotes for some reason

Dannyu NDos

01:37

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Q: AlTeRnAtE tHe CaSe

For today's challenge, you must write a program or function that alternates the case of a string. However, you must ignore non-alphabetic characters. This means that every alphabetic character must have a different case than the preceding and following alphabetic character. This is slightly more ...

Whenever I see challenges involving cases, I remind of the Turkish I problem.

Ginger

my nomination post is the only one with any downvotes lol

excluding the one with nothing but downvotes

emanresu A

also np at +6/-4

Ginger

oh yeah

~~I wonder who my two haters could be~~

emanresu A

Aanyway votes there have no impact

rydwolf

04:02

@Ginger NP and TESP, presumably

rydwolf

04:50

Whoa TIL my $40 flashlight is bright enough to literally burn my skin if I point it at my arm

It takes a few seconds but that's crazy

...why do I have three tabs open on my phone that are just the google results for "isis"

The Empty String Photographer

07:36

@mousetail'he-him' Python 3, 51 bytes: from warnings import*;warn(Exception);warn(OSError)

Neil

07:54

@mousetail'he-him' Python 3, 8 bytes: ""is"\d"

emanresu A

you can just do 0is 1 which I had

mousetail 'he-him'

08:28

I like seeing different novel approaches even if they are not optimal

emanresu A

fair :p

Dannyu NDos

@Neil \d? What's that?

mousetail 'he-him'

It's nothing so causes a warning

Dannyu NDos

A warning, and not an error?

mousetail 'he-him'

Yes, it will just print as "\\d"

Dannyu NDos

08:31

Huh, weird.

emanresu A

Depends on the python version somewhat though

New Posts

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Q: Three-player rock-paper-scissors... but with Wuxings!

Objective Given a list of three Wuxings, compare them in rock-paper-scissors fashion, and output which Wuxing is the winner. Wuxings Wuxings(五行) are the five "elements" in Chinese philosophy. They are Fire(火), Water(水), Wood(木), Metal(金), and Soil(土). Positive actions A positively acted Wuxing ga...

code-golf

Dannyu NDos

I don't really know what tags are appropriate here, so

Neil

@emanresuA I couldn't find a list of warnings, so I used the two I could remember

Sandbox Posts

11:20

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Create an almost-square code-golf Given a positive integer N, output a grid with area N and height and width dimensions as close together as possible, so as for the output to be an almost-square. The output can be a 2d array of characters/numbers/etc. or be a single string of characters separated...

noodle person

This is a modified version of an old challenge which was recently closed because it had weird unclear bonuses. Is this new version acceptable?

mousetail 'he-him'

You say it's ok for the output to be transposed, but there is no meaning given to the ranks in the first place right?

noodle person

No, I'm only saying that to make it clear that the order of the ranks does not matter

Do you know a better way to phrase it?

mousetail 'he-him'

I think I would say "order of ranks doesn't matter"

noodle person

Okay

Lol

I'll add a more wordy explanation too for people who don't know array programming buzzwords :)

mousetail 'he-him'

11:27

Maybe say something like "Either the width or the height can be the bigger number"

The OP of the original quesiton seems to still be active, and edited yesterday. The original may still be fixed

noodle person

I was going to say "The width and height may be swapped arbitrarily."

Oh, hm, I'll see if they removed the bonuses

mousetail 'he-him'

That works

noodle person

It's still probably better to have a new one though, since many answers to that challenge wouldn't be valid anymore

@mousetail'he-him' Looks like very little was changed, other than some rewording of the rules. I think they misunderstood the close reason

mousetail 'he-him'

The ethics is complex, normally when we repost old challenges it's when the OP hasn't been active for years.
IMHO at least Martijn needs to be made aware we we are considering reposting the challenge and give them the option to post it themselves.
They seem pretty set on wanting patterns so IDK if they are going to be willing to do that

noodle person

11:43

Ok

Hi @Martijn, there has been some discussion on posting a new version of your challenge idea, with more clear guidelines and without bonus points. The new version wouldn't include the pattern idea you had because it cannot be objectively determined whether a solution with a pattern is valid or not. I think this challenge is still unlikely to be reopened as the pattern clause is the main thing for it being called off-topic, and reopening it would make all the current solutions invalid. Would you like to post the new challenge? It's currently in the Sandbox on our meta site. — noodle person 11 secs ago

mousetail 'he-him'

:thumbsup:

noodle person

Cool. And I updated the sandbox post wording on the transposing stuff

Martijn

13:06

Active is a bit more than I am here, but I am active on other SE forums, so I get a notification :)

I remember that at the time I aimed for a beginner-ish challenge, with some motivation to add creative solutions, but 10yr younger me didnt think that through enough :)

As PHPer this site rarely offers a chance for a nice answer, so I kinda stopped

Maybe characterA and if its a perfect square -> use characterB? Or should I just abandon similar ideas?

Ginger

@rydwolf what'd I do to NP :(

lyxal

17 hours ago, by Ginger

^

that

you dissed the bot

~~I'd eat margarine for a while if I were you~~

Ginger

damn

lyxal

lest NP exacts buttery revenge

Ginger

now it's at +9/-3??

~~I was not expecting to be a controversial candidate~~

lyxal

13:25

would you like a lyxal seal of approval to improve your chances? :p

Ginger

can't hurt

lyxal

one second

mousetail 'he-him'

@Martijn Unfortunatly, it's really hard to encourage creative solutions without resorting to unobservable requirements

Ginger

@lyxal hey, this isn't a seal

it's a circle looking thing

lyxal

You have no idea how much effort it took to erase any traces of it ever being a seal

I don't need PETA hunting me down

Ginger

13:39

ah, of course

Themoonisacheese

14:02

@lyxal is it fair to say you went clubbing?

lyxal

Shhh don't let them know

Animal rights activists are the last thing I want to deal with :p

Because they start snooping around and jeopardising limb stealing operations

mousetail 'he-him'

Do you test your limbs on animals?

lyxal

I can neither confirm nor deny that

If y'all keep prying any further, I'll have to turn you into a circle looking thing too

att

14:40

@lyxal my list was too short

The Empty String Photographer

16:39

My bad that was New Posts

mousetail 'he-him'

New posts has +7/-6 now, the tension is audible

The Empty String Photographer

@PetəíŕdtheWizard Boo! You got scared!

Petəíŕd the Wizard

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer no u

noodle person

17:39

@SandboxPosts Martijn commented that this might be too simple, and I might agree.

I'm considering changing it to "Squarify a string" where you take a string as input and output it as a grid with the dimensions as close together as possible.

Thoughts?

(@mousetail'he-him' since you were reviewing it earlier)

Also @Martijn now that I see you've joined the room :)

Simd

19:39

Anyone here used lean?

noodle person

19:59

Yeah makes you feel drowsy

mousetail 'he-him'

YQ has been renamed to "Byte Heist" It's still equally ugly. There is a somewhat interesting restricted source challenge though

Simd

20:18

@noodleperson how come?

noodle person

20:33

@Simd I was just joking because there's a drug called lean

Simd

@noodleperson I didn't know that! Is it a white powder drug or some other sort?

DLosc

@DLosc That feeling when you're transferring your userscripts to a new computer and you see this header:

// @name         BQN CGCC post
// @description  add CGCC and CMC buttons to the BQN try page for golfers.
// @author       Razetime (modifications by DLosc)

:(

Simd

"Lean is a drink typically made from a cocktail of substances including; codeine, promethazine, paracetamol and dextromethorphan"

I knew about Cred from South Park

noodle person

@Simd Lol it's like cough syrup

It's a drink

@DLosc :(

I should make a similar user script for the Uiua pad maybe

Simd

21:19

@noodleperson 😁

lyxal

@DLosc same thing as when I see his answers on the site sometimes

The subtle realisation of "oh, right"

Dannyu NDos

22:12

@NewPosts In case anyone is wondering why Air is not amongst the Wuxings, it's probably because ancient Chineses considered air to be a form of qi(气).

That's why gas, in general, is still called qiti(气体).

Neil

22:34

just watched a repeat of Red Dwarf, but unfortunately the subtitles consistently misspelled silicon as silicone...

lyxal

Someone must have been wearing a silly cone while doing the subtitles

Klumpy7

23:24

Is this the right chat to ask casual code golf questions and/or ask for advice on shortening some?

lyxal

Sure is :p

Klumpy7

Neat! I've been making a script to replace each character in a string with R if it was typed by the right hand L if it was typed by the left hand and E if it could be typed by either.

My python code is:
`m="".join("L"if a in"`12345~!@#$%qwertasdfgzxcv"else"E"if a in" b6^"else"R"for a in input().lower())`

Is there a way to get it shorter?

att

23:41

~~i disagree with b~~

'RLE'['`12345~!@#$%qwertasdfgzxcv bb66^^'.count(a)]

Klumpy7

23:54

Oooh, very clever, I like that. It took a while to figure out what it was doing though.

CG is fun because it makes you think so out side the box

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