The Nineteenth Byte

lyxal

01:01

I was going to make an AI generated website joke but that url

ATaco

Tag yourself I'm ByteMaster

lyxal

websim.ai is the site

but the image url is more important

friendly reminder l looks like I sometimes

ATaco

04:57

Remember to include atleast 1 memory leak to water your Trees

lyxal

07:36

→ 2 messages moved to The Edge of Propinquity

mousetail 'he-him'

r/youngpeoplediscord

Themoonisacheese

08:09

@RubenVerg my condoleances

where were you when kevin died

i was in bed when monitoring sent me sms

"kevin is kill"

"no"

Hello, World!

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A: "Hello, World!"

true, 16 bytes "Hello, world". I haven't even made an online interpreter for this language yet And yes. The languages name is spelled in lowercase

Themoonisacheese

10:22

it is with great pleasure we inform you that the Daily ARM rant (tm) has been indefinitely cancelled due to our company selling the entire division that uses their products 🎉

mousetail 'he-him'

Sad, I liked the daily ARM rant

Themoonisacheese

me too tbh

mousetail 'he-him'

Any other topic you would be willing to rant about?

Themoonisacheese

i guess i just had to pull a netflix

@mousetail'he-him' as a matter of fact, yes!

the daily GlobalFoundries rant, season 1 coming soon to a streaming service near you!

mousetail 'he-him'

/subscribe

Themoonisacheese

10:25

You have been subscribed to the Daily GlobalFoundries Rant (tm)!

globalfoundries has 2 (actually 3 whatever) version of their 22nm node: 22FDX, and the upgraded 22FDX+. when you design semiconductor IP, you generally use the foundry's IP package in a way similar to a standard library.
Except globalFoundries are cheapskates and don't want to create that IP, so they offload that part to other companies like Synopsys, who don't really care because you're not paying them, GF is.
for 22FDX, GF comissionned IP from synopsys who delivered, but for 22FDX+, GF instead took that 22FDX package wholesale and validated it again for 22FDX+ without really asking synops…

lyxal

mfw official SO communication goes to spam (it was an invitation to join the SO copilot extension testing team)

Themoonisacheese

additionally, the product design kit is for 22FDX (naturally) but if you're making 22FDX+ IP using the 22FDX design kit then you're doing something wrong. GF says the FDX+ kit will work fine (and it most likely does) but nobody that matters can guarantee it

@lyxal lololol

lyxal

Somehow, the invitations to the mod team and the election working group team didn't go to spam, but the one ai one does

Might I add that I use Outlook

Microsoft really sent an email regarding an extension to one of their products to spam

Truly one of the things ever

Themoonisacheese

seems about right tbh

lyxal

Anyhow once I figure out the installation process, it'll be time to see just how SO answers impact copilot :p

lyxal

10:51

D:

this is so sad

Themoonisacheese

is it even true?

lyxal

vyxal is not considered a good code :( because I don't use memory management

mousetail 'he-him'

First time I agree with AI

lyxal

I don't manage resources properly in a garbage collected language

mousetail 'he-him'

Is Vyxal even writen in C#?

lyxal

10:52

no

it's written in scala

there is no Dispose method

mousetail 'he-him'

That's great

lyxal

:D

mousetail 'he-him'

But how good would the code be if it was Rust?

Themoonisacheese

to be entirely fair, this question is really tailor-made for codereview.SE, not SO

lyxal

I'd like to thank user and rubenverg for this achievement

@mousetail'he-him' that's too complicated for it :p

Themoonisacheese

10:55

thoughts on using GNU uniq for this? codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/59625/type-uniqchars/…

the question says builtins that find unique elements aren't allowed, and uniq is technically that, but it's also not because it requires you sort the data first

mousetail 'he-him'

@lyxal Where do the links point to?

lyxal

### Is This a Good Scala Code?

Yes, the provided Scala code is considered good because it utilizes tail recursion, which can be optimized efficiently into a loop by the Scala compiler. Additionally, it demonstrates safe handling of completing a promise multiple times without causing exceptions.
### Sources
 * Kris Nuttycombe's [Answer](stackoverflow.com/a/5696390)
 * Lee's [Answer](stackoverflow.com/a/34636223)
<br />

stackoverflow.com/a/5696390 and stackoverflow.com/a/34636223 respectively

PFFFT

mousetail 'he-him'

It's a bit of a strech but I see where they are coming from

lyxal

2

> such as creating a staircase pattern in Python, fixing a VLOOKUP error in Excel, and addressing a NotSerializableException issue in Apache Spark when using functions outside closures.

mousetail 'he-him'

Tail recursion won't cause a stack overflow -> code that uses tail recursion is good

lyxal

10:59

@lyxal yep that's certainly what my scala code is doing mhmm

Themoonisacheese

ah yes, apache spark

lyxal

that's the most plausible option

mousetail 'he-him'

It's just RAG right?

lyxal

I'll have to check

mousetail 'he-him'

The "R" part seems to be the weakest link

lyxal

11:01

no mention on how it's implemented on the meta post

nor on the labs page

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Q: Call for testers for an early access release of a Stack Overflow extension for GitHub Copilot

Today on Labs, we announced an upcoming limited release for a Stack Overflow extension that we are working on for GitHub Copilot. We had previously previewed this at WeAreDevelopers in July. Similarly to how we initially launched the Beta for Staging Ground and other Alpha features through Stack ...

stackoverflow.co/labs/…

I GOT IT TO QUOTE ME!

Themoonisacheese

YOOOOO

lyxal

now granted that was an easy one because it's a copy paste of the title of a question I answered

but still

mousetail 'he-him'

Would it read content in HTML comment tags? Could you add some nonsense in alt tags or other invisible text to poison the training set?

lyxal

that's a good question

problem is that there seems to be a cutoff date on the answers used

e.g. I can't seem to get it to quote any of your recent ones

mousetail 'he-him'

I'm sure they'll update it eventually

lyxal

11:09

but I did get it to quote:

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A: How to get speaking status in real time using Discord.js v13

Searching for this seems to suggest this used to be possible but was famously broken, because the event wouldn't fire, or would fire only once. The client.voiceStateUpdate event used to give you a VoiceState that had a speaking property, which would tell you if someone was speaking (which seems l...

which is from 2022

Themoonisacheese

that was my very first answer believe it or not

@mousetail'he-him' definitely RAG, otherwise you couldn't get it to cite sources

@lyxal have you managed to make it play chess yet?

lyxal

midway through doing that

it's gotten a bit stubborn

Themoonisacheese

it might be really hard because almost no SO answers cite chess positions

so the R part will give you unrelated results

lyxal

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A: Regular Expression to add Curly Brackets around the "comments" in a pgn (chess)

I think you could match the moves/comments in one regex. Just build up a new string. Below, Capture grp 1 is the moves, grp2 is the comment. edit - Simple change. To support Dot-All in JS, a . was changed to [\S\s] # /((?:\s?[()]?\s?[()]?\s?[0-9]{1,3}\.{1,3}\s[NBRQK]?[a-h1-8]?x?[a-hO][1...

that's one of the answers it's cited

Themoonisacheese

what the fuck is this lol

raku would do this in like 4 lines too

lyxal

11:23

this is what my first attempt led to:

Nf3 Kg7 c3 d5 Qa4

it really did say Kg7

taking its pawn and putting its king out into the open

Themoonisacheese

/r/anarchychess moment

mousetail 'he-him'

At least the king is protected by the bishop

lyxal

I think this extension is far too useless to even play chess

Ginger

14:48

> The grid CSS media feature can be used to test whether the output device uses a grid-based screen.

TIL

mousetail 'he-him'

What's the alternative?

Themoonisacheese

non-rectangular pixels

well, subpixels

mousetail 'he-him'

So like a CRT screen?

Themoonisacheese

that's one of them yes

Ginger

mozdev mentions text-based displays

Themoonisacheese

14:51

that's a grid

foiled again by mozdev

i'm trying to find example images of non-grid based displays (not that it matters, your browser wouldn't know anyway but still) but i can't find them

i know TV-CRT is one of them but i remember OLED PC screens with more green surface area for better fidelity or something

mousetail 'he-him'

More green surface area doesn't nececairly mean the pixels are not rectangular

Ginger

> Most modern computers and smartphones have bitmap-based screens. Examples of grid-based devices include text-only terminals and basic phones with only one fixed font.

Themoonisacheese

@mousetail'he-him' the ones i'm reffering to specifically had cross-shaped pixels IIRC

@Ginger oh i was thinking the other way

mousetail 'he-him'

That makes a lot more sense

Themoonisacheese

yes especially considering there's no way even your GPU knows about the pixel shape of the screen let alone the browser

Seggan

14:58

@Ginger wat?

thats a thing?

why would you be browsing cat videos on a billboard

mousetail 'he-him'

There are text based browsers that can run in a terminal

Seggan

ah that kind

Themoonisacheese

damn too slow to edit info out

speaking of terminal browser, have you all heard the good word of our lord and savior carbonyl? github.com/fathyb/carbonyl

Unrelated String

@Ginger Text-based arguably still uses a grid... unless you also aren't using a monospaced font >:3

that is such a funny idea

Themoonisacheese

@UnrelatedString i think grid is only true when text-based as opposed to "normal" display engines

nice property to detect 15 year old unpatched versions of webkit running on symbian tbh

jan

15:07

Mascarpone is an Esoteric programming language with a so-called Meta-Circular interpreter, and it prints "Uncaught infinite loop!" as an error message when I run

[:'[/'v/']/*'w<^]v*v/'W<^ vW$

in the online interpreter

mousetail 'he-him'

Is that a question?

Unrelated String

@Themoonisacheese Ahhh, that makes a lot of sense actually

because pixel displays aren't "chunky" enough for the grid to be salient for layout

Themoonisacheese

yeah i had it backwards too but this way is somewhat better (though why not call it text-based 😡)

jan

@mousetail'he-him' I have yet to figure out how funny this is

mousetail 'he-him'

Understandable

att

15:13

comic sans text-based browser?

Themoonisacheese

@att samsung browser on android 8

was not grid-based but definitely had the funny font

att

yeah

mousetail 'he-him'

The papyrus core aestetic

Themoonisacheese

here's a fun idea

font roulette, where an extension randomizes the font of your terminal/browser/editor everytime you open it

wingdings? aw, dang it!

mousetail 'he-him'

Oh that sounds quite fun, a little bit of spice without actually making your work much harder

I hope it picks only monospace fonts though

Themoonisacheese

15:19

of course not

att

good

Themoonisacheese

how else will you end up with Gadugi, HoloLens MDL2 Assets, Marlett, or Edwardian Script

mousetail 'he-him'

I do kinda wonder why monospace makes so much difference for coding. Spaces are always the same length anyways so the indentation should be consistent regardless. Yet I hate looking at dynamically spaced code

Themoonisacheese

all real fonts installed by default on windows 10 btw

att

habit?

Seggan

15:21

@Themoonisacheese we had such a userscript back when TST was still a thing

mousetail 'he-him'

Perhaps, maybe I should code in Arial for a few months to see if I got used to it

Themoonisacheese

fun

Seggan

@mousetail'he-him' i started coding in comic sans, i dont even notice it now lol

Themoonisacheese

yeah i was about to mention there are several people here with unhinged editor fonts

mousetail 'he-him'

I used Monocraft for a while, weird font but still monospace

att

15:23

i use whatever the np++ default font is

mousetail 'he-him'

@att Courier New

att

that's probably right

Themoonisacheese

@mousetail'he-him' i think it's probably not actually the non-monospace, i suspect it has to do with these fonts being associated with typically not code editors and rather typesettign engines

Unrelated String

yeah I feel like you learn to visually parse code in a way that's kind of different from natural language text, and taking the monospace out of it just trips your brain up if all of your experience learning was with monospace

Seggan

agree

natural language isnt structured, while code is

you sorta act as a parser

Themoonisacheese

15:37

thank you cadence for bundling an entire install of Eclipse with your tools real cool move it's defnitely not like i could have installed it myself

Unrelated String

WHA

wow

Themoonisacheese

they also almost all the time ship an entire install of gcc and python with pytorch installed

you know, typically stuff that is impossible to find

mousetail 'he-him'

Finding compatible versions of all those things can be difficult though, especially if you are not super familiar with them

Themoonisacheese

i guess that's fair enough

gcc is actually a modified version i think

no what the fuck it's not fair enough python deps are easy it's like 1 requirements.txt and you're done

i am way more angry about this than is reasonable

Ginger

@Themoonisacheese [citation needed]

mousetail 'he-him'

15:41

You need a compatible python versions, setup to work with GCC properly, and with no other versions of required libraries installed

or any other conflicting configuration

Themoonisacheese

mousetail 'he-him'

Relavent XKCD

Themoonisacheese

inaccurate, doesn't even mention pip3

mousetail 'he-him'

Or py -3

Themoonisacheese

oh my bad it doesn't ship with a full install of eclipse

it actually ships with 2 separate, just in case you also needed the 32 bit version

Unrelated String

15:55

Naturally.

Seggan

16:12

i hate beginner python courses forcing me to use "beginner concepts" to write my code when it could be done more efficiency with some other thing

Unrelated String

😭😭😭😭😭

I'm so glad my university let me test out of the first two core CS classes because they would have been soooo painful

The Empty String Photographer

16:35

~~Candidates who receive 10 or more downvotes and at least 3 times as many downvotes as upvotes will be shamed and kicked out of Chat.SE~~

The Empty String Photographer

17:04

> Experts struggle with work made for amateurs.

Seggan

17:27

I am cursed with knowledge

Seggan

17:47

ive been doing some digging through TST starboard and found this absolute gem

in The Sand Trap, Sep 16, 2023 at 22:41, by user

Ginger, Entering NDos's room: Seggan did it again.
NDos: Peace disturbance?
Ginger: What no-
NDos: Arson..?
Ginger: NO, JESUS CHRIST, HOW MANY-
NDos: uh....Attempted murder?
Ginger: NO, THEY ATE ALL THE FOOD IN THE FRIDGE, BUT WHAT THE FU-

for some reason im always portrayed as an arsonist :P

in The Sand Trap, Sep 16, 2023 at 22:28, by user

Lyxal, pointing to the wall: What color is this?
Ginger: Gray.
Seggan: Grey.
Lyxal, turning to Rydwolf: Now tell them what color you think it is.
Rydwolf: Dark white.

in The Sand Trap, Sep 16, 2023 at 22:39, by lyxal

NDos: What’s your favorite color?
Rydwolf: Stop asking stupid questions. Ask me something logical and mature.
NDos: How many moles of sodium bicarbonate are needed to neutralize 0.8ml of sulfuric acid at STP?
Rydwolf: My favorite color is pink

ok this one is SO ACCURATE irl lol

in The Sand Trap, Sep 16, 2023 at 22:46, by user

Bbrk24: Wow, this parking is as straight as I am.
Seggan: I know I should be focused on the fact that you just came out, but HOW DARE YOU INSULT MY PARKING!

Hello, World!

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A: "Hello, World!"

Nythop, 21 bytes )"!dlrow olleH"(tnirp Never make a Python version of Pain-Flak

Ginger

18:09

@Seggan Rydwolf was secretly a VGA terminal the whole time

Unrelated String

18:43

Can someone get the last VTC in on this? It hasn't had any activity since but it's still new enough that it seems like it's at risk of getting new answers

Ginger

done

Unrelated String

Thanks :3

Ginger

:3

emanresu A

19:06

get cgcc meta badges with this one simple trick

Ginger

:3c

Wezl

so that's why the threshold was 10...

Ginger

19:33

@rydwolf do bridges connected to who's typing get typing events?

rydwolf

I do not know and do not have the means to currently check

If they don't, I think all you'd need is a second listener that's not in bridge mode

Seggan

TESP has won the negative election :P

Ginger

wait, I can check

I have access to the droplet lol

att

vote manipulation for badges D:

Ginger

I have no idea what this code is doing

I'll just patch bridget to log websocket messages and see if it gets anything

seems like it does

RubenVerg

19:48

golf-together chat now with 100% less hacks!

it seems to connect reliably for me

Ginger

~~after about twenty seconds, sure~~

RubenVerg

working on faster database(:

Ginger

huh, I've still got the code from my last attempt at a chat service

it was not very good

emanresu A

My last attempt at a chat service used php (three years ago)

RubenVerg

now chat shows author names instead of id

RubenVerg

20:10

multiple connections per user also supported now

Ginger

@emanresuA ರ⁠_⁠ರ

emanresu A

the php has removed her eyes?

Ginger

whoops sorry, forgot to dot my i's

:p

emanresu A

oh also 99 bottles of beer got autoprotected recently and I'm wondering if it's worth leaving it that way? (or, well, manually unprotecting and protecting it to mark it as intentional) There are a lot of answers that a) got the lyrics wrong b) used some hq9+ dialect and got the lyrics wrong.

Ginger

20:36

I'm inclined to agree yeah

The Empty String Photographer

I tried to make a chat app using http once.

@NewPosts I thought New Posts was nominated for RO?

RubenVerg

aaand the pi seems to have broken again

Seggan

20:54

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer it was a joke

RubenVerg

i don't understand

it's not something with the network

it doesn't seem to be something with the pi itself?

it also doesn't seem to be something with the wifi dongle

i give up

Ginger

networking do be like that sometimes

lyxal

21:28

@mousetail'he-him' nyeh heh heh!

ATaco

22:55

Not to brag, but I just accidentally installed my desktop environment

Uninstalled*

New Posts

23:38

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Q: Shortest possible valid PEM-encoded CA certificate

The challenge is to create the shortest possible PEM-encoded CA certificate. The length is to be measured with wc -c ca-cert.pem It needs to be valid, so for example it must be possible to decode it using openssl. openssl x509 -noout -text -in ca-cert.pem

printable-ascii

ATaco

Huh, TIL the distribution of max(rand(),rand()) is the same as sqrt(rand())

Sandbox Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Count the possible folds of an n² grid Inspired by this recent video, I thought that maybe we could get a new value for an OEIS sequence A001418 with a fastest-code challenge. There's a sample java implementation here if you change the 2 on line 159 to an n (see A001418). Your code will be ran wi...

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