The Nineteenth Byte

Ginger

02:09

github.com/Vyxal/vyxal.github.io/commit/…

ATaco

02:31

"Huh, I wanted what commit added that"

rydwolf

02:47

Someone at a thing I'm at accidentally took three edibles instead of vitamin gummies and is now laughing hysterically at what turned out to be the google search results for "flowchart"

emanresu A

interesting

I guess we're doing Best Of voting tomorrow - I can run it unless someone else wants to. If Redz ends up getting in she can be appointed subject to her accepting the nomination

lyxal

03:30

@emanresuA best of?

Don't you mean room owner :p

emanresu A

03:59

...I can type really

mousetail 'he-him'

12:03

@rydwolf Relatable

att

12:39

broken image?

mousetail 'he-him'

Guess the flow isn't charting today

Or the chart isn't flowing?

Ginger

14:07

@rydwolf understandable

Ginger

14:26

gotta love node taking twenty seconds to start

mousetail 'he-him'

That's not normal

Node starting never takes any noticible time for me

New Posts

15:38

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Q: Make an almost-square

Given a positive integer N, output a grid with area N and height and width dimensions as close together as possible, so as for the output to be an almost-square. The output can be a 2d array of characters/numbers/etc. or be a single string of characters separated by newlines. You may use any valu...

code-golf

Wezl

15:50

I wonder if it's possible to write a befunge program that completely destroys itself

like it completely clears the program space so there are no instructions left except for like spaces

mousetail 'he-him'

Perhaps, you'd need to push all coordinates of occupied cells then jump to a loop that contains just p and erases itself last

Wezl

exactly...

RubenVerg

16:08

was doing team math olympiad competition simulation and might've said confidently "39 is prime"

att

close enough

RubenVerg

might share the problem later because I'm curious if there were other approaches than mine

att

@Wezl p if you count the null char as a space

Unrelated String

16:30

@RubenVerg It does really have prime vibes until you actually look at it and think of the obvious factorization

att

@NewPosts still waiting for a chance to use reference.wolfram.com/language/ref/Multicolumn.html 😔

RubenVerg

17:01

here it is:

"Pretty easy" a triangular prism has base area 84 and the three sides have area 312, 325, 91. what's its volume?

chat-mini-math-problem i guess

"pretty easy" is the name of the problem

though it is indeed quite easy

att

17:56

is there necessarily a unique volume

mousetail 'he-him'

18:16

CMMP

emanresu A

18:45

@Ginger are you trying to replace circuitpython with node lol

Ginger

ಠ_ಠ

~~there are far better runtimes for embedded JS than node~~

to be fair it's not node that's slow, it's webpack

RubenVerg

@att yeah

att

oh i was thinking pyramid

no wonder it didn't seem easy

it still might be not unique if it's an oblique prism?

RubenVerg

19:02

sorry yeah normal right prism

I keep forgetting the oblique ones are called prisms too

the two bases are parallel

Wezl

19:23

@Wezl im not sure the best way to send it but you can run it on bedroomlan.org/tools/befunge-playground/

vp
>88*4*1-21p">"00p84*1084*0084*01"v"11p
|>21g:1-21p84*\:4/\4%1+21g
 not golfed. Deletes everything from (0,1) to (63,4)           |
                                                   `---->     _/

DLosc

19:40

@rydwolf By "minors" I definitely thought you meant "students under 18" at first

Wezl

(me too)

emanresu A

That's the point I think

DLosc

20:16

I was a minor in college, but I didn't have a minor

att

grateful i didn't read it that way

DLosc

@rydwolf I met George W. Bush in a dream once :P

The Empty String Photographer

@RubenVerg A calculator says the gcd of the 3 sides are 13. A different calculator says that 84 * 13 = 1092. So I guess that is the answer?

RubenVerg

@TheEmptyStringPhotographer hmm, completely did not consider the fact that the height was likely to be an integer and therefore gcd could've been the correct height

it's not really correct however, the right height could not be an integer

in this case it is though

RubenVerg

20:54

golf together now has an attempt at a chat system! available here, though first you have to log in by browsing to the root (yeah, it's kinda unintuitive for now)

Ginger

oho

RubenVerg

21:10

huh, looks like it's broken actually

rydwolf

@emanresuA indeed lol

The person it was originally assigned to got too nervous to actually write it lol

att

@RubenVerg more complete would be spoiler

RubenVerg

that is actually a good idea

i did it with spoiler

emanresu A

yeah that works pretty well (and is the general approach you'd use without any assumptions)

att

21:27

yeah i'd probably do that if the triangle wasn't so obvious

RubenVerg

alright chat is fixed with a very ugly temporary patch, i'll have to investigate deeper

but i guess send away! nice stuff please(:

Ginger

@RubenVerg this is neat :3c

is it open source perchance

I've always wanted an excuse to work on a chat system (and I think I've got some old projects in that vein)

RubenVerg

@Ginger github.com/rubenverg/golf-together

if you have any idea how to properly fix the thing i just patched by arbitrarily waiting a second it'd be great

Ginger

~~I have a vast array of tools~~

so if I were you I would have chat be a separate codebase and figure out how to share authentication between the two

RubenVerg

21:43

they are kinda integrated, with rooms being potentially linked to holes

i probably also eventually want to show some messages in the main site

Ginger

hmm

so it's more of a forum than a chat system?

the original purpose of SE chat was to be a third place for the users of SE

ATaco

What is a chat but a very fast forum?

Ginger

the atmosphere is different

RubenVerg

it's instant (or would be, without database-across-the-ocean lag) but intended to be used mainly for what comments are in SE

except long, i guess

and you can also have unlinked rooms for like general discussion

but it's not intended to be for chats about whatever like here

for that probably just discord

Ginger

hmm

I'd suggest integrating its UI into hole pages then

ATaco

21:45

CMQ: Postfix cast syntax? I'm thinking var[[type]], because I don't like having to parentheticalize up var as type

Ginger

as for the actual implementation, I think you'll find socket.io to be useful

RubenVerg

scala has var.asInstanceOf[Type]

ATaco

Nice and verbose

RubenVerg

yeah, it's so you don't use it

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emanresu A

lol

RubenVerg

21:46

you're supposed to use match and you want that most of the time

Ginger

pfft

RubenVerg

uses of asInstanceOf generally are split in two cases: you don't know how to properly use the type system, or you're interfacing with Java

Ginger

or both!

RubenVerg

(there's also isInstanceOf which is equally as long and ugly)

ATaco

Yeah but my type system is ugly as is

RubenVerg

21:48

@Ginger i think there'll already be a lot of vertical space to have the chat embedded in the hole page, what i want is a way to mark a message as relative to a specific answer or approach and then it appears and if you click it it sends you to the beginning of the conversation about that

so i guess it's SE comments meets Codidact threaded comment things meets IM

emanresu A

new TypeCaster(Type1, Type2).cast<Type1>(var) as Type2

Ginger

that sounds like comments, yeah

ATaco

Interfaces? Traits? Nah just add an implicit cast to a helper class to act as your interface

emanresu A

also y'all typing indicators are glitching out

ATaco

Y'all have typing indicators?

Ginger

21:49

yeah it does that

@ATaco userscript

I'm tempted to fork and rewrite the script lmao

ATaco

I remember writing a userscript for it back in 2016 that was relatively widely adopted

emanresu A

well it's a recent bug

Ginger

or at least the backend, which is. a mess

ATaco

spoiler

Ginger

I wonder if rydwolf would let me rewrite the backend if I asked nicely

excuses for me to make a chat system... hmmmmmmm

RubenVerg

21:52

@Ginger interesting

Ginger

byte heist is written in Rust... maybe I could take another shot at learning it :p

cc @mousetail'he-him'

RubenVerg

working for the competitor now?

Ginger

I'm not working for anyone yet :p

RubenVerg

(:

pick both sides and always win or whatever they say

though byte heist and golf together have very different goals and target users

ATaco

22:31

@ATaco Ooooh, I can use var<type> because generics don't exist in an expression context

lyxal

23:25

Outline of Uranus

The following outline is provided as an overview of and topical guide to Uranus: Uranus – seventh planet from the Sun. It has the third-largest planetary radius and fourth-largest planetary mass in the Solar System. Uranus is similar in composition to Neptune, and both have different bulk chemical composition from that of the larger gas giants Jupiter and Saturn. For this reason, scientists often classify Uranus and Neptune as "ice giants" to distinguish them from the gas giants. Uranus's atmosphere is similar to Jupiter's and Saturn's in its primary composition of hydrogen and helium, but ...

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