@cairdcoinheringaahing and you found that editing your message to reply to mine was the most efficient thing to do?

@lyxal Only because it was a trend in 5th grade

I can only really solve 2x2s and 3x3s consistently - whenever I try solving a 4x4, I either take half an hour to do it or hit a parity and just scramble it and restart

I think I can solve 2x2x2

can you solve a 1x1x1

Wait, I meant 2x2x2, 3x3x3, and 4x4x4

I am not a 2D creature

@hyper-neutrino okay now that's just too hard

idk, you look pretty 2d to me

@hyper-neutrino No one can solve 1x1x1

unfortunately i cannot find my actually usable 3x3x3 anymore so i will solve a 5x5x5 for the memes

idek if i still can

probably not

Weird flex but okay

I have a gearball thingamajig and a pyraminx or whatever that I never ended up solving

I'm willing to sell both for your diamond

Cube puzzles are overrated

Real gamers play the numbers game with 4 from the top

???

nrich.maths.org/6499

...

> Age 7 to 14

Why do you have this?

@user Time to nuke lyxal as underage

@user first link I found for countdown numbers game

@cairdcoinheringaahing Remember MAD

I'm not underage :P

Yes you are

But Lyxal knows your vague whereabouts

Nope. Think of an age, and I'm over it

@cairdcoinheringaahing 69

@cairdcoinheringaahing 1000?

Yes to both

TIL caird is over 1000 years old

Probably senile tbh, let's un-RO her :P

i am ageless :P

If you do not have an age, you can't say you're over 13/16/whatever the minimum age is for using SE :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing understandable. Time is relative after all (settle down all you from Alabama)

@lyxal That's so overcomplicated :P He could do: add 100 and 6, multiply by 3. Then divide 75 by 25 and 50 by 25 to get 3 and 2 respectively. Multiple 318 by 3, then add 2

But no, he has to "multiply by 75"

@cairdcoinheringaahing now tell me where did you get that second 25 from?

@lyxal Its the same 25, but distributed over the addition

Then that's pretty much what he does

\$\frac {3\times75\times(100+6)+50} {25}\$

That's what he does

Yeah, but he overcomplicates it so much :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing Odd, Auto ChatJax doesn't display that for me

@cairdcoinheringaahing do you regularly watch countdown?

Because I'm envious of you if you do

@lyxal Not really

My maths teacher used to do the number games as a timewaster tho

Because y'all in the UK getting fresh letters and numbers while we just get stuck with reruns of the 5 seasons they did record over here

Got annoyed a lot at me for "storing away numbers for later" instead of doing it all as one chain (e.g. "divide 75 and 50 by 25. We'll keep the 2 for later, then multiply by 3")

@lyxal Have you seen 8 out of 10 Cats does Countdown?

@cairdcoinheringaahing it's fricking hilarious

I don't have enough of an attention span to watch a full episode, but I've watched enough clips on YouTube to get the general idea

I always forget, do you have to use all the numbers in the numbers game?

No

ಠ_ಠ So I found one where the numbers were 62, 12, 7, 1, 5, 10. Target is 130

My solution: \$12\times5 = 60 + 62 = 122 + 7 + 1 = 130\$. I completely missed \$12 + 1 = 13 \times 10 = 130\$ :/

Lol

incoherency.co.uk/countdown/practice

Relevant link ^

Tempted to draft a challenge, but I'm almost positive there's a poorly spec'ed one from 2011 that's got a 100 byte golfscript answer to it

@cairdcoinheringaahing Source

@cairdcoinheringaahing "I made the 13 in a more honest way"

It's currently half 1 in the morn', I've had a 14+ hour workday, everything hurts and I really need to sleep but, instead, I'm sat out on my balcony in my shirtsleeves drinking cans and playing C&R because ... SCREW THIS GODDAMNED HEAT!

@Shaggy Ireland's been hit as well?

Hello

It's goddamn brutal :/

Seriously, this isn't how Ireland is supposed to work; 17° at this hour of the night!

I have the opposite

It's been raining with gale-force winds for the last 24 hours

@Shaggy 17° at night and you're feeling the heat?

Smh

Pathetic

Hey, we're northerners :P

Around here, 17°C means you get your blankets out and you stay warm

@lyxal Imagine how tortuous my January 2006 trip to Melbourne was; remember that time half the matches in the Melbourne Open werr being cancelled 'cause the courts were melting?!

14°C

@Shaggy (They would've been ~5)

@Shaggy heh I wouldn't remember that because I was only 4. But that does sound like something that would happen here

@cairdcoinheringaahing First time in well over a decade I've had to slap suncream on while working. At fecking night! Damage had already been done after I'd served my first round; burnt to a crisp. Ginger power!

@lyxal Why do you people insist on reminding me I'm surrounded by children?! :p Think the temp peaked at 46° while we were there. That was the day my mate's contacts melted in his eyes!

wtf

@Shaggy that sounds about right ;)

'Twas made all the better by our friend's car having no air con and leather seats!

@Shaggy *Laughs in Fahrenheit*

@Shaggy oh I can imagine the pain of that and it's 14°C outside where I am

@lyxal Same

You know, I need five upvotes (hint, hint)

@hyper-neutrino took me just under 30m

@lyxal Aussie winter.= Irish heatwave!

It's going to be 20+ degrees here for the next 4 days (and today), and I want to lock myself into a freezer :/

lol it's been 20-ish degrees for the past few days and it's been amazing

how???

it feels so nice when it isn't directly sunny during like the afternoon

I am very much a cold weather creature :P

it should typically be around 25-30-ish at this time of year

i prefer cold weather too; it's easier (for me) to warm up than vice versa even ignoring that preference :P

Oh, I'm gonna be hiding in my coldroom hugging kegs 'til this is over - it's a hazardous work environment for a ginger!

you can put on more layers but you can't wear less than your skin (or, I can't)

I can handle -30 no sweat, but if it hits +20, I basically die :P

i can handle 30 but it is rather painful and here the weather's gotten as low as -40 i think (but very rarely)

british columbia was hitting like 46 (yes, that's celsius) a week or two ago - i think it's gotten better

@Shaggy If it were'nt for the fact that I'm the family driver, I'd be drinking cold pints basically all day :P

Nothing better to keep you cool

@Ausername welcome to the club!

@hyper-neutrino I can't believe i considered uni in canada :P

@cairdcoinheringaahing that's just cuz there was a massive heat wave cuz climate change go brrr

@cairdcoinheringaahing That sounds like a good way out of being the family driver to me!

there were wildfires in bc and manitoba which is like................... wtf this is canada

but there are other reasons you should not consider uni in canada

@Shaggy my parents might get a bit too annoyed :P

@hyper-neutrino Fun fact: my course involves a year abroad, and one of the partners we can choose to go to is Waterloo :P

Saw that, @hyper-neutrino - that's absolutely nuts for Canada. But the gobshites will still try to tell you climate change is a hoax!

ooh. you should totally do that so I can 11 you IRL

@cairdcoinheringaahing And you'll be too pissed to care; sounds like a win to me!

@hyper-neutrino I was considering it, but I don't want to be 11'ed :P

it'll be fun

@Shaggy :P

Plus, it's in 2 years, so I haven't really given it any real thought now :P

fair enough

I'm so glad I don't drive, never have to worry about having a drink.

Driving in the sun is really fun tho

I'm so glad I don't drink, never have to worry about being able to drive.

(:P)

ah shit, I do both (probably too much) :P

10k rep!!!

hopefully not at the same time ಠ_ಠ :P

@Ausername Congrats!

@Ausername enjoy the sandbox clutter

@hyper-neutrino How to get 11'ed IRL :P

Oh great. Redwolf?

?

@Ausername Hang on 'til I -1 you somewhere! :p

That'll put them at exactly 10000 :P

@hyper-neutrino I believe that's offers from both you and Adam to meet up IRL :P

Now, to find time to go to both London and Waterloo :P

I'd offer Ireland too, but it's a shithole so I'll meet you in London instead.

Having never been to Ireland, I'd prefer to be there than here

Trust me, you really, really wouldn't.

What's the reopening situation there?

Absolutely fucked! In other words, don't mention the war!

In which case, we might be equal :P

the UK is so fucked with the reopening, we're easily going to hit 100k+ cases/day soon

@Ausername What about me?

Also congrats on 10k :p

Government passed legislation to allow the vaxxed indoors from <arbitrary date to be decided at the last minute> so the the anti-vax conspiracy theorist loons have completely lost the plot. Conveniently, the government are taking their annual 6 week summer break from next week, as any compotent government does in the middle of a goddamned global plague, so they can't be held to account. Meaning all that anger, vitriol and bile from the loons is going to be focused on us staff.

@Shaggy What;s your (personal) stance on anti-maskers in your business? I work on the tills at a local shop and have to deal with them every so often. Mostly just stay as far away from them as I can, and refuse to accept cash from them (we're supposed to accept cash or card)

Plus, I ask tell them (and only them) to follow the taped distancing on our floors when scanning their items

I just shout obscenities at them; if you haven't figured out the house rules 17 months later, you deserve it.

Hmm, I might do that on my last day :p

It would definitely be your last day :p

Well, I've already handed in my 3 months notice (aka, the annual reviews happened last week and I let them know I'm leaving when I go to uni) :P

ಠ_ಠ Yt keeps giving me unskippable 20 second ads

I'd rather spend 2 minutes refreshing the page to not get an ad than sit though a single ad

bruh use ad block

YT has gotten so bad for ads; taking advantage of us all being imprisoned in our homes watching YT.

@lyxal I probably should tbh :/

I made a whole fancy userscript to allow me to skip ads by hitting the x key instead of having to move my mouse, but there's so many unskippables now it's almost useless >:|

I've been resisting adblock as long as I can, because I like most of the channels I regularly watch and want to contribute in any way I can. Honestly might just adblock it and pay a bit to all of their patreon pages

imagine regularly watching channels and not just jumping around from meme to meme

I do both :p

Okay news articles get a lot less confusing when you realize "MP" usually refers to member of parliament and not military police

Clearly it should refer to both :P

"MP shot person attempting to enter Area 51" would have a whole new meaning :P

who needs politics when you've got things like this

@lyxal Nooope, not falling for that again! :p

you sure about that?

According to my rickroll detector it's not a rickroll

@lyxal You brought this level of distrust on yourself!

eh

It's actually a really ingeniously designed rickroll detector. It makes all of the links I hover in chat turn gray, so if I ever notice they don't turn gray it'll alert me to the fact that the detector's stopped working.

Since if it just alerted me to rickrolls, I'd have no way of knowing if it stopped working after an update or problem, and could rickroll myself due to overconfidence

according to my region's tracker we have 216 active covid cases right now

about a year ago it was down to like, within 20 or so :/

but every goddamn time we get a downtick in our daily cases the government thinks "ah yes, it is the perfect time to start reopening" and then immediately cancels that out - we even beat toronto for daily cases, and that's not even per capita

and their population is like around/over 5x ours IIRC

Cases mean feck all. All that matters is deaths, hospitalisations and getting vaxed.

i mean yeah seems their condition is basically as long as the hospitals can handle all the incoming sick people

tbh idk if i'm more disappointed in how our government's handled this or the people - neither have particularly impressed me

There've been twice as many cases and deaths in Texas as all of Canada ._.

Oo, nearly forgot: remember the C&R polyglot idea I had last night? Had an idea for a twist today: instead of choosing to crack a cop's uncracked solution, you could choose to rob a robber's solution by adding another language, thereby removing their solution from the running. What do you guys think?

That's a really cool idea

I believe (but I may be wrong) that those were your exact words to my original proposal last night too! :D

Gonna flesh this out in my head a bit more over the weekend and Sandbox it on Monday.

I like the robbing the robbers concept a lot, sort of seems like a cross between CnR and answer chaining

But, for now, I'm outta cans and utterly exhausted so I'm gonna try blacking out now that the temp has dropped all the way to ... 16°! Night, one and all.

Cursed youtube videos I watch part 2: youtube.com/watch?v=E7DiqFg0wIU

Hi everyone

!!/howdy oh wait a minute that doesn't work here :p

the existence of vyxal has corrupted tnb

It has corrupted all of code golf :p

lol

That's the way I like it and I never get bored :p

> ... and code written in Python is often more concise than the equivalent in other languages.

hahahahaha

source :p

Okay these are some weird precedence rules for link parsing

depends what the 'other languages are' lol

Java, C#, and VBA I guess :p

Oh no

This is cursed

How do you even manage to do that

Mixed sans serif and monospace, with collapsed whitespace

Did they try to make this look as bad as possible?

The fact that the print isn't indented is really bugging me

It's because the whitespace is collapsed

They could have at least made for and in monospaced and claimed it was some sort of weird syntax highlighting

Because that would be somewhat consistent

Yeah, this is just extremely janky

CMQ: Most readable language

(For programming)

Also, why is SO trying to introduce people to Python? Doesn't seem like their job, given that their target audience is people who are already developers.

@wasif JS

???

@wasif jelly

@RedwolfPrograms more concise than languages with static typing and boilerplate

@wasif PHP, for obvious reasons

@wasif python

Though SQL's a close second, if you use sElEcT case

ngl I can sometimes get the idea behind jelly code someone else wrote faster than python code someone else wrote

Not surprising enough

granted my samples probably aren't comparable

@wasif wait I change my mind: Vyxal :p

Vyxal can be more readable than other golfing langs

I suppose BF is very high level and abstract, so it's readable in that sense, although you often have to refer to the docs to remember what one of the commands is

@wasif hahahahahahahahahah

@RedwolfPrograms you're just jealous because you never managed to finish your own golfing language :p

The code page aesthetics are...not great

why the star

@wasif because I can star what I want

Oh ok

Nice for me

I should totally 12 it and undo the star

Husk and Jelly are probably my two favorite golfing language code pages, they're (mostly) readable and consistent

This you?

i should 11 the message itself entirely

I'm not a huge fan of Vyxal's codepage TBH; it's mostly good but some characters are too similar IMHO.

Ad for stars: Post a vyxal related message and get a free star from lyxal

To me Vyxal programs look a bit strange

@hyper-neutrino which ones?

I mean tacit languages are just easier to read for me :p

husk is the best golf code page imo

∨ v ⋎ <- three diff chars

APL's code page is obviously amazing too but it's not a golfing lang

@RedwolfPrograms A lot of the characters are inconsistent widths, and they also just don't really have the sort of unified style Jelly or Husk have

Full ASCII codepage sickens me

@RedwolfPrograms nevermind the fact that a good majority of my own codepage is straight up stolen from jelly and husk

A lot of it's not though

⅛ ¼ ¾ ℅ are potentially hard to read on smaller screen sizes / fonts but that's w/e

∧ ⋏ ꘍ are also confusing

@hyper-neutrino simple solution: get gud /s

^

› > and < ‹ are similar but not that confusing, i was just being dumb that one time

@AaronMiller well this isn't an issue for me because i just stream the raw bytes into my brain

I don't look at the codepage at all

@RedwolfPrograms is this more satisfactory for you? github.com/Vyxal/Vyxal/blob/experimental/new%20codepage

Just search at the keyboard

@hyper-neutrino Oh rt I forgot

your codepage doesn't align properly for me but that is probably a git gud moment

It probably doesn't in almost any font

it lines up well on my site because i serve dejavu sans mono

wait no

even on dejavu sans mono it doesn't

@hyper-neutrino Even as raw bytes in ur brain they don’t align right? That sounds like a you problem to me :p

specifically ⟑ and ⟇ don't seem to fit on like any font

There's a reason I removed things like ∧ and ⌊ and ₂ and ∴ from Ash's code page, they tend to have weird issues in a lot of fonts

It is hard to get properly aligned code pages though

Solution: Now we just need to make Vyxal Mono font

@AaronMiller shall I go create a visual design team? :p

Part of why I think Jelly and Husk have good code pages is that there's an underlying goal behind them. With Jelly, for example, it's INTL compatibility.

@lyxal do it for the memes

@lyxal Incorporate web design team into doing visual design

BTW brachylog also has a nice codepage

@AaronMiller github.com/orgs/Vyxal/teams/visual-design-team

A lot of overly wide chars from what I've seen, though

honestly, that is not a bad idea at all

but it wouldn't work on other sites (namely SE; I could install it to vyxapedia easily)

I considered making one for Jelly/05AB1E/Husk, but it would actually encourage using the weirdly spaced characters, which is something I didn't like

Since it can't fix it for SE or GH

The main places you'd see it

solution: do not have a codepage

I consider that often :p

???

now you may be wondering

how do you code then

and the answer is

solution: do not code

Raw bytes

Oh

Nvm

lol

I mean I guess you could define a custom code page where, e.g., Y. is encoded as one byte

or you can define a cursed code page where a) the characters aren't ascii b) the characters aren't even the normal width c) multiple characters are still encoded as one byte

If you marked the digraphs with a character like \​, you could actually make a somewhat nice (albeit cursed) ASCII-only SBCS

@hyper-neutrino Or use a normal codepage, but with a cursed font that renders each character as a different frame of the music video for Never Gonna Give You Up

We now have three singly starred messages from this conversation, I might clean these up later

Why?

Yeah, why?

Three starred messages are of three different users

Kind of clutters the starboard, but if y'all diagree I won't

kinda scared to look at the context for this

@Razetime don't

don't be scared that is

@Razetime that's not remotely scary actually

this only furthers my suspicion

Anyone didn't have any dispute here

We are all peaceful

@hyper-neutrino I dislike this markdown error, plz fix :P

@Razetime If you want to be more scared: that was pinned for at least 3 hours :P

mod abuse has been committed

Very good

@cairdcoinheringaahing oh no

@Razetime hi kinda scared to look at the context for this

Is that...a dad joke? :o

You have achieved much funny

Because the conversation is about "dad"

hi

@RedwolfPrograms Do you have a deleted-sandbox-posts filter?

Like a userscript?

(uesrscript)

Yes

I can make one if you want

Ok thanks

hi

@Ausername Sandbox Filter: Press Shift + D to toggle showing deleted answers

⬤ε⬤ <- this charcoal program looks very weird.

Note that it's just a CSS trick, so things like the answer count shown won't change

@RedwolfPrograms brachylog has like 2 or 3 with weird widths but i'm not even sure which ones

Haven't actually look at brachylog's code page to be fair, so that's probably true

@RedwolfPrograms Thanks!