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12:01 AM
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I'd say just the opposite
It's bad if a species can't code golf and rickroll
 
Idk if we can say that animals can't code golf. 90% of golfing langs look like a cat just walked across a Unicode keyboard
 
@Lyxal Only humans at their lowest code golf and rickroll.
@ChartZBelatedly Some answers are crazy enough that sometimes I believe that's exactly what happened :P
 
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI no, rickrolling and code golf is the highest form of irony
 
@Lyxal You rickroll and code golf. That's all I need to prove my point. :P
 
12:28 AM
How unreasonable is it to require answers be able to handle inputs up to 2^64-1 rather than just limiting it to the language's limit?
 
@ChartZBelatedly Depends if you require full integer precision at such size, or if 64-bit float is ok.
 
12:44 AM
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ChartZ BelatedlyDecompress an integer, Jelly style Jelly has compressed string literals, using the “...» delimiters. The way these work is by interpreting the ... as a base-250 integer, \$n\$, then repeatedly divmod-ing this integer until it reaches \$0 \newcommand{\d}[2]{ \left( \left\lfloor \frac {#1} {#2} \ri...

 
@Adám Integer precision always confuses me. It's for ^ that proposal if that helps
 
@ChartZBelatedly Well, if one uses 64-bit floats, then 18446744073709551615 and 18446744073709551614 are indistinguishable.
 
make that 2 + a boatload
 
@Adám But that wouldn't affect answers that only have to consider the range 0, ..., 2^64-1, would it?
 
@ChartZBelatedly Uh, yes, those two numbers are 2⁶⁴−1 and 2⁶⁴−2.
 
12:51 AM
@Adám Ugh, too many similar numbers. Thought they were 2⁶⁴ and 2⁶⁴−1
 
:-)
 
1:14 AM
@NewSandboxedPosts Because Jelly's compression uses base-250 integers, it essentially has created a bijection between the natural numbers and the set of strings made up of ASCII characters. Meaning that we can map usernames to numbers :P
Lyxal -> 1573253336292, Redwolf Programs -> 46263331470148462552, caird coinheringaahing -> 11655862820939, Adam -> 946, ChartZ Belatedly -> 32273185951433
Sorry for not using the á, it only works for ascii characters :/
 
 
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6:11 AM
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l4m2Output a random pair of twin primes. Every pair should possibly appear and the program should have zero possibility to fall into infinite loop. Notice that we don't know if there are infinite many pairs so you need some fallbacks to avoid finding a not-existing pair.

 
 
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9:45 AM
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Q: html javascript Count user defined number click

saveI am trying to achieve user defined number count click. The problem is, its keep prompting user, i want user to be promoted once only. Below is my code function clickCounter() { var person=prompt("Please enter your name","12"); if (person!=null) { ...

 
10:23 AM
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A usernameAdded trailing whitespace code-golf Sometimes, we accidentally have trailing whitespace in test cases, and some helpful person notices and fixes that. Thank you, helpful people. But what if we want to take a string without trailing whitespace and add some? Your challenge is to write a program tha...

 
11:22 AM
CMC: Choose an emoticon (e.g. :P, :-) etc.) What does that emoticon do in a language of your choice? Try to come up with creative ones :P
 
@ChartZBelatedly in Batch, :P defines a label named P, which you can call using call:P or go to using goto p
 
11:35 AM
Just an FYI about something I noticed to y'all: if you mass upvote all answers by a single user - especially on one question - the system is likely to revert the votes as fraud, so double check that hasn't happened to you :)
 
11:51 AM
It's happened to me a few times before
It's pain
 
Hell, it's annoying enough when you get a -10 because "User was removed". Getting -200 because someone was overzealous would be awful :/
 
12:34 PM
@ChartZBelatedly that's not going to happen to me. I've nailed that minimally making change question, but have yet to get a single upvote
 
@Neil The problem I have with judging Retina answers is that they can swing so wildly in length between two pretty similar challenges that I just have no frame of reference :P
 
I'm not saying you should all go and upvote all of my answers to that question, but for none of them to get any upvotes...
 
@Neil Oh yeah, I fully get the pain of effort not correlating to votes. Just remarking about your Retina answer, cause I have no idea if 70 bytes is good or not for Retina as it could go either way depending on the challenge :)
 
 
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2:48 PM
@ChartZBelatedly Right-most column here [:
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Q: Take that frown and turn it around

AdámA celebration of the many faces of APL Given a string among those in column 1 or column 2 of the below table, return the string's neighbor to its right. In other words, if given a string in column 1 then return column 2's string on that row, and if given a string in column 2 then return column 3'...

 
3:12 PM
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Q: Penrose polygon generator (OpenGL)

ArianKGParts Gets the user input. This part is a console without window. Generates Penrose polygon according number entered in the user input. The user input is number of sides in the Penrose polygon. For example, if user input equals 3, output is Penrose triangle. This part creates a window and it's G...

 
3:30 PM
hmm, is it me or does the rep change badge now show + all the time?
 
3:50 PM
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ChartZ BelatedlyMinimally destroy CGCC in Game of Life Inspiration Conways' Game of Life is a well known cellular automaton "played" on an infinite grid, filled with cells that are either alive or dead. Once given an initial state, the board evolves according to rules indefinitely. Those rules are: Any live cel...

 
@NewSandboxedPosts Feedback on this would be really helpful, GoL isn't my forte, and I'd like to avoid trivial n = 1 scores or similar :)
 
doesn't seem that interesting as someone can bruteforce and then the challenge is just over
 
@rak1507 I'd be surprised if anyone can get n = 3 or lower, and anything higher would take years to brute force
 
the chat 404 page is quite funny as well: "We couldn't find the page you requested. We did, however, find some guys with an even more serious problem."
 
@ChartZBelatedly maybe
 
@rak1507 There's also the halting problem to deal with
 
4:16 PM
true, although practically they can just test if the number of iterations > some big number
 
Yeah, but the same applies to pretty much all code-golf challenges tbh. If I wanted to, I could just brute force Jelly answers
 
256^5 isn't even that big
 
And hell, you can eliminate a decent number of those just with a little bit of "Jelly logic"
 
4:31 PM
CMQ: what is your native language?
 
Natural or programming?
 
natural
 
@pxeger English
 
I feel like most people's profiles that I click on say they're from non-English-speaking places, but most people seem to have very good English
 
English is the closest thing we have to a lingua franca, so if you want to interact with people on the internet, either you learn English or you find people who speak your native language :/
 
4:34 PM
but in many places on the internet people just speak bad english (which is fine), but here seems unusual in the quality
maybe it's just that we're all disproportionately well educated, to make a sweeping generalisation
 
@pxeger Bangla
 
@pxeger APL.
 
I knew you'd say that
 
I'm guessing yours is actually english @Adám
 
@Adám is APL a general purpose programming language?
 
4:48 PM
@pxeger My native human language is Danish
@Wasif Yes it is.
 
IIRC Adám has a legitimate claim to APL being his "native" language :P
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ah ok
 
Correct me if I'm wrong @Adám, but didn't you learn APL before Danish?
 
I'd say I learned both languages simultaneously. The first time I was supposed to participate in a presentation at an APL conference was just before I turned 2, so I must have spoken some Danish already.
 
wait are you actually serious
 
4:52 PM
@pxeger Yes.
 
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Q: Show background image on hover

ashI have a div which has background color color.I am trying to rotate or flip it on hover and show background image. ( Or just show background image of the div on hover.) I tried CSS properties visibility and display. How to achieve it? Do I need to use jQuery or javascript? CSS .box2{ position: ab...

 
wow
 
@NewMainPosts Idk why, but the fact that the HTML isn't shown in that because SE actually uses HTML is kinda funny :P
<div class="container-main">
     <div class=" box box2" id="box2"> box2</div>
</div>
Is just rendered as "box2"
 
wow, this pattern takes thousands of iterations to 'stabilise', pretty cool
#C Generated by copy.sh/life
x = 19, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
b3o2b3o2b3o2b3o$o4bo4bo4bo$o4bo4bo4bo$o4bob2obo4bo$o4bo2bobo4bo$b3o2b
2o3b3o2b3o$12bo!
 
@Wasif But interestingly enough, it started off as a better mathematical notation, so it is also very good for human (optionally handwritten) communication of things like proofs and algorithms.
 
4:56 PM
@Adám thanks for the note
 
You're doubly welcome :-)
 
sorry for double post
 
You're doubly welcome :-)
 
5:18 PM
@Wasif Can I offer you a customised one-on-one intro course to APL?
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don't! you'll get addicted!
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@Adám No, thanks for that!
 
5:34 PM
codegolf.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/2140/… Sandboxed new challenge from me, Please give some feedback!
 
@Wasif So is this simply set equality?
 
@Wasif Or even more simply, are the lengths equal?
 
@ChartZBelatedly No: {1,2,3} → {4,5,6}
 
I think you should more clearly specify that "range set" means "the set comprising the inclusive range of natural numbers between the minimum and maximum"
 
yea I don't really understand the wording or challenge, more examples and description would be good
 
5:56 PM
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WasifIs this an one-one function? code-golf, math, set-theory, function Two sets given as input, one is the domain of a function, and other one is the co-domain of a function. As an example $$ \{1,2,3,4\} $$ $$ \{5,6,7,8,9\} $$ Now if the range set of the function, i.e. set of each element in the co-...

 
6:23 PM
@ChartZBelatedly the reverse of lyxal's number is a multiple of 69
 
 
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8:40 PM
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Q: Count the number of possible squares

DonatIn a 9 by 9 grid some points have been marked. The task is it to make a program that counts all distinct squares that can be made using four marked points. Note that squares can also be placed diagonally. Input can be one of the following: A character string of length 81 containing two distinct ...

 
9:07 PM
@rak1507 oh heck yeah
 
 
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10:35 PM
@H.PWiz @xnor I just wanted to let you know that there is another "of monads and men" on discord, and I'd like to invite you over!
 
10:53 PM
I'm in the code.golf discord, or you could give me a link here
 
11:13 PM
@pxeger Marathi
As for a native programming language, I guess Scala, since it can kinda compile to native code?
CMP: Do you guys prefer being awarded a bounty three days before it ends (when the person awarding the bounty gets notified) or on the last day?
@pxeger I feel like you need to learn okay English to become a programmer, given all the documentation and tutorials that are in English, as well as the keywords in most languages.
Would've been cool if Esperanto had become the lingua franca, though.
 
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI Esperanto's...bad though
 
@RedwolfPrograms I don't know Esperanto myself, but isn't it supposed to be more regular than most natural languages?
 
There are a huge number of problems that make it quite bad for a lingua franca (not as bad as English, but that doesn't say much)
 
Time to make a new language called Internetish, then :)
Argh, I can't change my name for a month :(
 
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A usernameWhat's missing code-golfstringdecision-problem Write a program which takes two arrays of strings as input. One of them (your choice which) will have one item missing compared to the other. Your program must figure out what is missing. Rules You can choose which array has one missing. The arrays m...

 
11:26 PM
@OriginalOriginalOriginalVI I think the "convention" is to award the bounty after 6 or 7 days, for maximum visibility.
Personally I don't mind being awarded earlier than that, though it might interfere with my plan towards Legendary
@RedwolfPrograms One idea for Old Sandbox Post bot: let it post something every 6 or 8 hours, so everyone has access to it regardless of timezone
 
@Bubbler I'll keep that in mind, then.
@Bubbler And that way, every time it posts, it can say the next post will be up in 6 to 8 hours :P
 
@Bubbler It's ChartZ's bot, but I'll ask them in the testing room if that'd be fine (and if it would work with the current code)
 
Or more funky: post every 7 hours, so the posting time is different every day :P
 
Post every 7 minutes so it's equally annoying for every one :p
 
11:50 PM
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Q: Permutation group operation

Peter TaylorThere is a well-known bijection between the permutations of \$n\$ elements and the numbers \$0\$ to \$n!-1\$ such that the lexicographic ordering of the permutations and the corresponding numbers is the same. For example, with \$n=3\$: 0 <-> (0, 1, 2) 1 <-> (0, 2, 1) 2 <-> (1, 0, 2) 3 <-> (1, 2, ...

 
@Bubbler I'm hesitant to let it post more than once per day. If we want in here, I'll have to get permission from the mods to override the default "No chat bots in TNB" rule, and it should be as non-disruptive as possible
 
Fine then
 
Plus, chat messages are stored indefinitely, so if it's been especially busy, there's always the transcript
@Bubbler The version that hosted by @RedwolfPrograms posts on a schedule/timeframe decided by Redwolf, as it runs whenever his server tells it to :P
 
I have been wanting to post a challenge but it always ends up with negative results.
 
@MarkGiraffe Did you post in the Sandbox? Other users can help you work on it and give you feedback
 

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