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12:00 AM
Also some kind of optimizer to convert to tail recursion (although that might be a bit much)
Here's an article about trampolines.
 
Maybe a good time to study compiler theory
 
Laziness could be helpful too (like when printing an infinite list, element by element, on demand)
 
I'm too lazy for laziness :p
 
It shouldn't be that hard, actually
All you need to do is return a function instead of an actual value
 
Lazy way to implement laziness: implement in Haskell, compile to C, then compile to Wasm
 
12:04 AM
^
Lazy way to implement laziness - make only an offline interpreter that is prone to crashing and can cause irreparable damage to people's computers. No one will bother downloading it and checking that your answers work, so you can get away with answering anything.
 
That's lazy way to implement anything at all
Or, make an interpreter that takes ages to compute 1+1 or anything basic
 
plus(a, b) = plus(b, a)
Actually, that's not a valid implementation at all
 
At one point people will come to check your interpreter's source code, so it won't work
 
Yeah
 
That's why you hire me to write it so nobody can ever understand it again
 
12:13 AM
Implementing adding by repeated incrementing would get pretty slow for exponentiation, at least.
 
Sounds like writing an interpreter in BF
 
@RedwolfPrograms "Redwolf Programs: We'll write unreadable source code for your unreadable esolang!"
"Call 1-800-ESO-LANG today!"
 
yeah tail recursion shouldn't be too hard to implement
 
12:27 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing I don't have 11 Question badges, 8 Answer badges, 4 Participation badges, 20 Moderation badges and 2 Other badges
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing 5Q, 10A, 3P, 15M, 3O
 
@RedwolfPrograms how much do you charge?
 
 
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2:45 AM
(I'm missing Favorite, Stellar, Great, Famous, and Socratic for question badges, and I think I'll get Socratic first before any others)
 
 
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4:04 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

SinthorionQuine Countdown! quine code-golf Write a program that accepts a single parameter n and outputs another program that outputs another program etc until the nth call outputs the original input n again. Scoring is a modified version of codegolf: For input 100, add together the code length of each pro...

 
I just found a $900 chromebook on sale and I'm really tempted to buy it
 
4:24 AM
@RedwolfPrograms why but a chromebook tho
 
For the same price and processing power you get way faster start up time, longer battery life, better performance for web browsing, etc. All of the useful features of Linux, without the compatibility issues. Don't have to deal with Windows bloatware or telemetry.
They aren't great for some things, but it's basically the perfect device for a programmer (esp. an HTML/JS programmer)
 
and you can use various cloud services for other kinds of programming anyway
 
4:39 AM
hmm
 
5:03 AM
cloud services seem like a hassle but i guess you basically have to use them for anything practical anyhow
 
You can run anything on a chromebook that you can on a typical laptop
 
Chrome OS? More like Chromosome OS am I right? \s
(for legal reasons that's a joke)
 
5:26 AM
@RedwolfPrograms (or anyone else in America): is it true that y'all don't have kettles? Just verifying a news story.
 
I've seen some people with electric ones, but they're not at all common at least where I am
 
Okay thanks for the verification
 
5:45 AM
There are way more chromosomes than just the sex chromosomes...
 
CMQ: How many chromosomes are in Chromosome OS?
 
@RedwolfPrograms dah. I logged into stackexchange on my smartwatch to say that, only to find you had ninjad me
all that effort for nothing
Smh
 
@2x-1 You changed your profile picture :p
 
Yes it's an accurate graph now
 
Also why do you hate esolangs
 
5:55 AM
idk. its odd because they themselves have made several esolangs
cmq: what is the smallest screen size youve used se chat on?
 
1366x768 :p
 
youve never lived.
 
@RedwolfPrograms Because I've made several esolangs
 
try chatting on a 41mm screen
 
@Lyxal 0x0 (sunscreen) :p
 
6:01 AM
@2x-1 i tip my hat to you
 
@Lyxal my grandmother has an electric one and i swear i have seen a non electric kettle at some point in my life but yeah kettles do not exist in the us
we just use pots if we need to boil water lol
 
@UnrelatedString see that's funny because down under it's the opposite
almost every home has an eletric kettle
 
6:23 AM
Question: has anyone ever read the chatiquette
 
yes
are you saying I ain't following it?
 
nah
 
long long ago
 
just asking
because I haven't
 
oh lol
It's literally a single md page
 
6:24 AM
I read it but forgot most of the details except the generic "be nice"
 
I remember that off-topic is okay if it ain't interrupting on topic and it ain't spam
 
@Bubbler the whole thing is an elaboration on that
 
 
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7:46 AM
An oddly-code-golf-like question on Stack Overflow: stackoverflow.com/q/65934161/5267751
 
8:07 AM
@user202729 maybe we can port it here
 
Yeah, just remove the restriction that it has to be regex.
 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

David LuiMake a bottom to up poem Based on the "Pretty Ugly" poem. You are given as input a number (number of stanzas), and 4 arrays/lists of strings, called "negatives", "negations", "positives" and "filler" sentences (although you can name the variables anything you want). You must output a "pretty ugly"...

 
@Adám (can't find a duplicate. There's only codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/20433/…)
 
 
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9:37 AM
@Razetime You can sum it up in a very golfy way as "Be Nice. Be On Topic. Don't Spam"
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing we don't really insist on people being on topic here do we? ;)
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing -11 bytes: "Don't Spam" can be part of "Be Nice", since spamming is not nice to other chatters.
 
@Anush I mean, we usually ask that people stay somewhat on-topic, and if there's two conversations going on, one on-topic and the other not, we ask the off-topic one to move/stop. But generally, no, people can chat about whatever :)
 
@cairdcoinheringaahing :) The second point is the important one. The offtopic conversations should have low priority for the scheduler
 
10:21 AM
Be On Topic -> Don't Go Way Off Topic
 
@Bubbler I am not sure you can describe the gifs as anything except way off topic :)
I am very happy with the priority rule. Be as off topic as you like but if someone says something on topic, shut up
 
10:55 AM
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Q: Can I use my own language?

SketchySketchI'm wondering if I can use my own language (that is, the language is created by myself). I'm not sure, because it's not known by others and may cause unfair competing (for example, printing "Hello, world!" in Stuck -- it does this when the program is empty. I mean, I can fairly well "create" a "l...

 
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Q: Can I use my own language?

SketchySketchI'm wondering if I can use my own language (that is, the language is created by myself). I'm not sure, because it's not known by others and may cause unfair competing (for example, printing "Hello, world!" in Stuck -- it does this when the program is empty. I mean, I can fairly well "create" a "l...

 
@NewMetaPosts Ok, so that's migrated. Time to VTC as dupe :/
There's a deleted answer in the Undelete Votes tools page that violates a standard loophole (reading from external site) but was posted before the standard loopholes were a thing. Should it stay deleted, or should we undelete it?
I think we've grandfathered a lot of old answers when it comes to the standard loopholes, but I'm not sure if its worth undeleting or just leaving it be
 
 
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1:39 PM
MS-DOS has Country and Ctty as its commands. The second command is not a typo.
 
Ugh, I had a 16 byte Jelly answer to this until I saw "Your function or program must terminate within 2 seconds for inputs of at most 30 digits each."
CMC: ^ but no time restrictions
 
2:14 PM
does anyone know where you can get big word lists for different languages?
E.g. Russian
by big I mean > 100,000
 
 
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3:18 PM
I hate JS's array sort so much
 
looks sorted to me
 
@RedwolfPrograms Can you do .sort(a=>+a)?
Also, yes, that's disgusting
 
No, you have to do .sort((a, b) => a - b)
 
3:45 PM
Of all the things they improved in ES, somehow they missed this one
 
ngn
4:01 PM
@Anush maybe wiktionary or aspell
 
@Razetime everything has to stay backwards compatible though
so adding new syntax is fine, or sometimes more functions, but it can't change functions much
 
oh well then
 
4:17 PM
Maybe sortMin and sortMax functions, that minimize/maximize for a function?
 
@ngn aspell seems to have a corrupted dictionary for russians
 
[4, 1, 2, 8].sortMin() would be [1, 2, 4, 8], and [4, 1, 2, 8].sortMin(x => x * 3 % 4) would be [4, 8, 2, 1]
 
it's kinda annoying that you'd need to bloat with more fucntions
although that would be very convenient
 
ngn
4:50 PM
@Anush gunzip </usr/share/aspell/ru.cwl.gz | prezip-bin -d >ru.txt (the result is koi8-r encoded)
@Anush to open with vim, add this to ~/.vimrc: se fencs=utf8,koi8-r
 
5:49 PM
̄̄̄̄̄ ̄̄̄̄ ̄̄̄ ̄̄ ̄ ̄ ̄̄ ̄̄̄ ̄̄̄̄̄ ̄̄̄̄̄̄
beautiful
 
I graphed a quadratic with macron diacritics in the sandbox chat once
 
exactly, that's where I saw it, thanks for the inspiration
 
6:02 PM
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Q: Count the bytes of a program

GamrCorpsNote 2: I accepted @DigitalTrauma's 6-byte long answer. If anyone can beat that I will change the accepted answer. Thanks for playing! Note: I will be accepting an answer at 6:00pm MST on 10/14/15. Thanks to all that participated! I am very surprised that this has not been asked yet (or I didn'...

 
 
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8:00 PM
@ngn Oh that looks good. Any idea how to convert from koi8-r to utf-8 unicode?
@ngn iconv -f KOI8-R -t utf-8 ru.txt > russian is very close
I get a lot /J's at the end of words as in иттагонг/J
 
ngn
@Anush yes, i see those too
 
@ngn any idea how to remove them?
 
ngn
@Anush can you use sed?
 
it's a good idea
I don't know how but will try :)
 
ngn
@Anush sed 's/\/.*//' russian >russian1
 
8:05 PM
cool!
thanks
 
ngn
@Anush are you plotting a new edit-distance challenge, this time with russian words? :)
 
8:52 PM
The Necromancer badge is tantalizingly close now
 
9:48 PM
@ngn A great idea!
 
 
10:41 PM
M'rnin' y'all
 
Afternoon!
 
@RedwolfPrograms How's things going?
 
Completely redesigning Ash
and winning my own KoTH by a considerable margin
 
I just realised I need to update my cg bio and se chat bio
Okay chat bio done
Now to do the main cg bio
Okay main cg bio done too
I need to have a stockpile of memes ready for future Saturday's
 

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