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12:25 AM
@HighlyRadioactive You were TwilightSparkle, right?
 
@petStorm Sure.
 
(Just to show that I remember you, never mind.)
 
12:42 AM
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golf 69Fixed Point of cos(x) Fixed points are any such values where, given a function f, x = f(x) = f(f(x)) = . . . There exists a "fixed point" for the cosine function, where x = cos(x) = cos(cos(x))= . . . (you may have unknowingly come across this by repeatedly pressing "cos" on a scientific calcul...

 
12:56 AM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

petStormA065825 code-golf sequence arithmetic (This is A065825.) The sequence defaults apply, so you can pick another format other than this one. Given an input integer n, find the smallest number k so that there exists an n-item subset of {1,...,k} where no three items form an arithmetic progression. ...

^ Any more feedback for this?
(Also I forgot to do that yesterday...)
 
1:11 AM
Dec 5 '15 at 23:17, by orlp
what is this
Now we have a whole day without a new challenge...
 
Kinda suboptimal but readable enough to me.
And any feedback for this and this?
 
 
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2:34 AM
Is there already a challenge about simulating the destructive-read memory cell?
Like:
Input a string consist of w and r. The w instruction toggles the state of the two-state memory cell. The r instruction outputs the value of the memory cell and sets it to 0.
 
(Just advertising for a while.)
 
@HighlyRadioactive Sounds similar enough to ;#
 
(There's a request for the Code Golf site on Codidact.)
 
@Bubbler Yep, my bad.
I'm happy that I didn't post this as a question immediately XD
(It is inspired by conwaylife.com/wiki/Boat-bit though)
:54166598 Wait wat
 
Since, Conway-related questions tend to be very well-recieved.
E.g. Conway's Monster has 40+ upvotes!
 
2:49 AM
Counterexample: Longest-lifespan-methuselah have 10 downvotes
New Conway-related idea: Constellation enumerating github.com/dvgrn/b3s23life/tree/master/enumerate-constellations
It's probably too hard to golf though
 
Someone will eventually golf it though. So it's okay to post.
 
Sure.
I'll go to the Sandbox first.
 
3:28 AM
Conway's Game of Life was overdone way too much on CGCC, and we consider we've reached the end by creating a programming language that compiles into GoL.
 
I do think enumerating constellations is an interesting challenge though.
Nothing will be "overdone" if you keep coming up with new unique things.
(Also I wonder why isn't the Tetris challenge done on ConwayLife.com? LOL)
 
3:52 AM
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Q: Penney-Conway odds

BubblerBackground Penney's game is a two-player game about coin tossing. Player A announces a sequence of heads and tails of length \$n\$, then player B selects a different sequence of same length. The winner is the one whose sequence appears first as a substring (consecutive subsequence) in repeated c...

 
 
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5:48 AM
Anyone care to write a 1+ golfing program, just like BFO?
 
What do you mean? Is 1+ a programming language?
 
Yeah...
The only process I could think of to automatically golf a 1+ program is to look for repeating code chunks and replace them with a function.
 
Golfing an arbitrary program automatically would be impossible, unless you restrict to certain pattern.
 
Obviously.
 
Golfing a number or a fixed string output might be interesting though.
 
5:55 AM
Yet, it's still possible to do a few optimization to some "obviously non-golfed" programs.
That's exactly what BFO does isn't it?
(I still feel like the 1+ golfing program, if finished, would be much more useful than BFO since no one will do something like ++- in BF golfing challenges)
 
So BFO is just optimizing trivial <>s and +-s?
 
By reading the Esolang Wiki page, it looks like it is.
 
6:24 AM
... Or do anyone care about 1+ at all?
 
Someone will, if you post a challenge.
 
Challenge about what?
 
Challenge about 1+ (I thought it was obvious...)
 
But how?
The ;# Interpreter challenge does not make ;# popular (though that's because the language itself is pretty much unusable.)
 
@HighlyRadioactive Other than inspiring a lot of other trivial interpreter challenges.
 
6:36 AM
Oh well.
So can anyone tell me how do you even make a somewhat interesting enough challenge about 1+?
 
Make a KoTH, and the controller is written in 1+?
(This would force answerers to write 1+ functions for their submissions.)
 
Pffft.
It will probably be very hard since 1+ is not that high-level (only relatively easy compared to Branflakes)
And even if I managed to do it no one will answer.
 
@HighlyRadioactive Brainflakes is a lot easier than e.g. 123.
@HighlyRadioactive But, answering is at least fun interesting, as you've specified.
 
Yep.
That make sense.
But I don't think there's BF submissions in an ordinary KoTH.
(Which excludes things like BF joust which is specific to BF)
 
 
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7:49 AM
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BubblerSimulate a solution for Conway Immobilizer code-golf Background Conway immobilizer problem is a puzzle that reads like the following: Three positions, "left," "middle," and "right," are marked on a table. Three cards, an ace, a king, and a queen, lie face up in some or all three of the ...

 
8:03 AM
The latest off-topic posts are tagged . That's bizarre.
 
8:22 AM
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Q: I have an issue with Android app, how to solve it?

user261130I mean, i tried to sign an already signed apk with own certificates by scheme 1. And then i tried to phone, it crashes continously and in emulator, it runs but black screen issue comes.

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Q: Generate list of numbers and their negative counterparts

AdámA recent SO question asks for a convenient one-liner to generate a list of numbers and their negative counterparts in Python. Given two integers \$1≤a≤b\$, generate all the integers \$x\$ such that \$a≤|x|≤b\$. The result may be printed or returned in any order or structure, as putting the resul...

 
 
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11:56 AM
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SmallhackerBoolean Variable Satisfiability code-golf You are given a logical expression containing 'true', 'false', 'variable' and some common boolean operators. Assuming that all variables are independent and can be freely set to either true or false, is it possible assign values to the variables such tha...

 
12:11 PM
156 + 7 messages moved to chit-chatRoom
 
Esolangs.org discussion:
Shall we replace the Parcly Taxel Hello World program with the Jo King one?
Random at: @wizzwizz4 @petStorm @Lyxal , etc.
tio discussion:
When will we have 1+ on tio?
 
No. It's better to keep the hello world and add the Jo King one as a supplement.
 
Oh okay
 
@HighlyRadioactive When Dennis comes back to life, of course.
 
Oh well
Shall we mention the dzaima trick in the specification?
 
12:37 PM
bah, moving starred messages leaves them on the star board...
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12:50 PM
Advertisement: Go downvote this!
@petStorm etc.
 
@HighlyRadioactive It's your own question! Why would you even request that!?
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Q: Generate list of numbers and their negative counterparts

AdámA recent SO question asks for a convenient one-liner to generate a list of numbers and their negative counterparts in Python. Given two integers \$1≤a≤b\$, generate all the integers \$x\$ such that \$a≤|x|≤b\$. The result may be printed or returned in any order or structure, as putting the resul...

This has now got an awful lot of answers.
FGITW FTW!
 
1:18 PM
hi all
hi @Bubbler
 
@Anush After I've just exhausted Bubbler, you're waking them up again...
 
Ooops.. what did you do to him?
@ChristianSievers I have made the DFA for k = 14 !
@petStorm I don't see his name in the recent record of this chat
 
@petStorm There are multiple responses to this message.
 
@ChristianSievers 123222353 states
 
It was intended as a joke. It is super trivial.
I just wanted to get others' attention.
Only the first response is real.
 
1:36 PM
@HighlyRadioactive So this is not real, which doesn't show the first is real. A paradox.
 
@petStorm The final sentence is not a response.
 
@HighlyRadioactive You said "Only the first response is real." So this is not neccecarily real.
 
I am now wondering if anyone will answer my challenge. No comments, no answers so far...
 
@Anush Leave it alone, someone will eventually answer.
🎶No comments, no answers so far... (x2)🎶
 
@petStorm Oh well... don't argue, this is off-topic.
🎶No comments, no answers so far... (x3)🎶
 
1:39 PM
does anyone know how to measure how busy the site has been this month compared to last year at the same time?
 
@Anush Use your brain.
 
Agreed.
 
@petStorm ?
 
@Anush Agreed. Ask others.
We just had 156 off-topic messages here (before they're being moved away), so the result is probably similar.
 
Can anyone outgolf my ITM?
 
1:46 PM
@HighlyRadioactive Imaginary Turing Machine
 
Oh, dammit.
Internal Truth Machine
 
@HighlyRadioactive Of course no, since it's "Imaginary". Nobody can do it physically.
 
@petStorm Stop joking please.
@petStorm Stop joking please.
(Insert serious cat meme here)
 
@Anush Get 20k rep.
 
@wizzwizz4 and then what?
 
1:49 PM
@HighlyRadioactive Get a room. Specifically, chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/107076/chit-chatroom.
@Anush You get access to that data.
Though somebody at Google dropped all the historical data, and the devs haven't managed to add it back in, so there's a point where it all just goes to zero.
 
@wizzwizz4 intriguing!
 
I'm bored.
I'll just add explanation to my Internal Truth Machine
 
@Anush Wow! Now what are you gonna do with it?
 
@ChristianSievers Hmm... try to see if I can work out k=15 :)
@ChristianSievers Actually I just have the dfa. I haven't processed it yet
 
2:05 PM
How long did it take?
 
@ChristianSievers just under 8 days
@ChristianSievers but the main problem is RAM usage
As far as I understand subset constructon (not the 2^n time version) you can easily parallelise it by considering the letters in the alphabet separately. But all other parallelisation is more difficult.
 
2:20 PM
I don't think such a parallelisation could work in any reasonable way.
 
@ChristianSievers If you process one row of the transition table at a time. Can each row computation be parallelised?
if there are four symbols the work needed in an individual row is independent per symbol isn't it?
 
2:34 PM
Ah yes, that's right. I was thinking about 4 long running threads that would need to communicate about the reachable states they have found.
 
@ChristianSievers yes that seems hard. There is work on further parallelisation but I haven't read it in any detail.
 
This looks more like vectorisation than threads
 
@ChristianSievers Don't they potentially have to do separate hash table lookups?
@ChristianSievers and merging of sets
(unless I misunderstood what "this" was)
 
("this"=your suggestion)
 
ok good
but first I want to know if anyone is going to solve my posted challenge!
surely some language just has as library function they can call :)
 
2:40 PM
they'd have to transform the input
 
yes that is true
hopefully whatever format they need wouldn't be too different.
 
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Q: Matlab bi2de is giving incorrect results

user94602I am learning via example code. M = 4; k = 2; n = 30; rng default; dataIn = randi([0 1],n,1); % Generate vector of binary data disp(dataIn) dataInMatrix = reshape(dataIn,length(dataIn)/k,k); disp(dataInMatrix) dataSymbolsIn = bi2de(dataInMatrix); disp(dataSymbolsIn) I am getting incorrect ...

 
whenever I post a challenge I get a series of upvotes for other ancient questions I have posed on different *.se sites.
people must click on the names of question askers and browse what else they have done
 
3:51 PM
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Q: Where to point a low-orbit ion cannon (asking for a friend)

subdermatoglyphicChallenge Premise Bob lost1 Alice's precious grand piano. Big mistake. Alice has now stolen Bob's low-orbit ion cannon. Alice refuses to just make up with Bob, so let's help her give him a light tap on the roof. From the top Bob's house looks like a lattice polygon, where all points have integ...

 
4:03 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

HighlyRadioactiveConstellation Enumeration in Game of Life Yet another trivial Conway's Game of Life challenge. A stable constellation is a still life that is composed of two or more non-interacting objects. You task is to take the valid object list, and output a list of all possible constellations. The object...

 
 
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6:50 PM
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Q: Reverse rubik´s cube algorithm

Jaime OlivéI have been all day strugglingh through this simple function, but i can't get it working as I would like to. It may seem simple at first, and there is indeed another entry in Stack Overflow which talks about it. However, things get messy when brackets are introduced. Let's say we can get an algor...

 
 
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9:37 PM
what time is this room busiest these days?
just seems mostly dead all the time these days :(
 
@Anush Click "info"
 
@Adám aha.. if I could zoom in it looks like there is a spike coming up
can you tell when that is exactly?
 
@Anush Considering that all those grey boxes represent a total of only 83 messages per day, I'd say that the spike is this very conversation.
 
:(
I meant the one on Fri
which time zone are those times being shown?
 
Yours.
 
9:41 PM
so there seems to be a spike on friday
maybe that is midday?
 
Looks like Friday afternoon to me.
 
it's a bit weird that Tue is so different from Mon
I was hoping there might be an APL solution to codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/203772/…
 
People back at work after the weekend, coming to see what happened here over the weekend?
 
could be that.. but there wed is popular too. I don't know over what period that average has been taken
 
@Anush It looks like significant work. I personally shy away from challenges that look like they'd take more than a few minutes.
 
9:45 PM
@Adám Hmm... I think someone with your great skills could do it in under 60 minutes
 
@Anush I have other work than just golfing…
 
I don't want to hear it! :)
 
I mean, it is in my job description, but so are other things.
 
:)
DFA processing is clearly an important missing feature of APL
(you could tell your boss)
 
Fun fact: One implementation of APL added a built-in for Knuth's algorithm X.
 
9:53 PM
nice
I will probably add a bounty tomorrow
 
The CMC answer I'm the most proud of:
Hm, TIO link doesn't work anymore. Try it online!
 
@Adám They're different programs.
Never mind; you know that.
Did you seriously just fix it without changing the byte count?
 
@wizzwizz4 Yes; 7160⌶ was renamed ⎕JSON.
 
Why was it called that in the first place?
 
Not every numbered feature (they are basically beta features, waiting for final spec and name) includes a pun, though many do.
@wizzwizz4 E.g. 219 is ZIP, 739 is TMP and 819 was BIg (uppercase/lowercase) letters, and 200 is Colour Coding (200=Roman CC) and 201 is Colour Code Information (CCI=201), 1111 is number of threads in parallel: ||||,…
 
10:24 PM
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dingledooperEvaluating Logic Gates code-golflogic-gates Logic gates are functions which perform basic logic operations. In this problem, we will account for the following 6 logic gates: AND, OR, XOR, NAND, NOR, and XNOR. Each of these takes two boolean inputs \$ a \$ and \$ b \$, and outputs a boolean. Belo...

 

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