The Nineteenth Byte

totallyhuman

12:02 AM

Oh

How silly of me

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anyone pls i have a bounty :(

Downgoat

@ASCII-only golfed spidermonkey: print("Hello, World!")

Zacharý

And Python, Python3, ...

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only it's hard

totallyhuman

yay

totallyhuman

12:31 AM

@ASCII-only space in file name? ಠ_ಠ

Zacharý

Ayy, I'm just happy to see MY language there.

ASCII-only

@totallyhuman why not

@Zacharý well it has TIO in its name for a reason :P

also Rosetta

Zacharý

MY's on TIO, I just can't believe that.

ASCII-only

@Zacharý Well Dennis is fine with putting anything on TIO, you just need to ask

Pavel

@Zacharý There is a language who's interpreter is literally 4 lines of JS on TIO. The requirements aren't exactly very high.

totallyhuman

12:34 AM

@Pavel wat

ASCII-only

And it has to be possible to run for free on Fedora of course

Zacharý

Send a link to it please?

@totallyhuman Spaced

Sorry, 3 lines.

3 lines

12:35 AM

@ASCII-only So, what happened with Dyalog? How does he get past all the pop-ups?

totallyhuman

github.com/ConorOBrien-Foxx/spaced/blob/master/spaced.js

what

oh

tio.run/#spaced

oh i remember

@totallyhuman Yes.

yeah that makes sense

it expands to a lot of lines since it evals as JS code

Pavel

12:37 AM

@Zacharý Dennis has a special license to use Dyalog APL that's specific to TIO.

Zacharý

Oh, that makes sense. He is Denn-is after all.

totallyhuman

"Helo, Wrd!"

@Zacharý ಠ_ಠ

ASCII-only

@totallyhuman what about it :P

totallyhuman

helo

Zacharý

wrd

totallyhuman

12:41 AM

here we see a clueless goat being guided by a wise lemon

Destructible Lemon

would be better if it said here, you goat

I have gotten more work done on my raster thing!

now all I have to fix is off by one errors

totallyhuman

Destructible Lemon

something something only hard things in computing

Zacharý

TOTALLYHUMAN, Y U EDIT TEXT?

totallyhuman

devtools is your friend

say, what is JS written in

Nick Clifford

12:50 AM

you mean like the JS engine?

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman I think a lot of it's in offices :P

Nick Clifford

the V8 engine that Chrome uses is written in C++, iirc

totallyhuman

right, bad question, there's loads of inplementations

Nick Clifford

which is part of why Node uses C++

Zacharý

@totallyhuman Many many languages, there's even an implementation of ECMAScript in D.

ASCII-only

12:53 AM

@totallyhuman C++ usually

@NickClifford *all, Node uses V8 directly

with a bunch of libraries written in mostly JS

Nick Clifford

right

totallyhuman

> ctrl+f
> "C++"
> 1 of 3
> tfw

Zacharý

TFW, I never understood what that meant. What does it mean?

ASCII-only

@Zacharý what

totallyhuman

The (Face/Feeling) When

ASCII-only

12:55 AM

~~feeling is the correct one here~~ I always interpret it as feeling

Nick Clifford

i've understood it as "that face/feeling when"

ASCII-only

there's also MFW (my face when)

Zacharý

TFW, FTW, WTF. THIS IS CONFUSING!

Destructible Lemon

my raster triangles look like they have rough edges... ;_; why, raster graphics, why

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon because you forgot to do antialiasing?

Destructible Lemon

12:56 AM

how to do antialiasing

totallyhuman

stop calling people by aliases

Destructible Lemon

just when I think my program is done and then this happens

ASCII-only

@Downgoat anything else (also preferably pr so less work for me)

Destructible Lemon

if I want to do antialiasing properly, that would require some complex stuff...

like rewriting the algorithm

probably

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@DestructibleLemon not exactly

Destructible Lemon

1:04 AM

or I could just calculate a 4times enlarged image and then use the fraction of pixels included from that in what the shade of the pixel is

Zacharý

@totallyhuman Hypocrite?

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@DestructibleLemon no pls

Destructible Lemon

why not?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon just calculate from the linear equation

totallyhuman

@Zacharý eh?

Destructible Lemon

1:05 AM

better than no anti aliasing

ASCII-only

4x less computer power needed

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only that's impossible

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon that's really easy

Zacharý

@totallyhuman ...

Destructible Lemon

ok not impossible but whatever

ASCII-only

1:06 AM

@DestructibleLemon it's the opposite of impossible (no i don't mean possible i mean pretty much trivial)

totallyhuman

@Zacharý ehh?

@ASCII-only ...possible?

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only yes but this is hard

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon no.

Destructible Lemon

yes

totallyhuman

maybe

Destructible Lemon

1:08 AM

when you include the stuff for when a pixel includes two lines it will become annoying

also I need to change most of the program to do that ;_;

Zacharý

... ... ...

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start = eqn(x); end = eqn(x + 1); if (start > y && end > y) return 0; if (start < y && end < y) return 255; return 255 * ((start + end) / 2 - y);

@Zacharý ehhh?

ew what

... ... ... ...

1:09 AM

...

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and for two lines it's just min

programmer5000

... . . . ...

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@DestructibleLemon why ew

totallyhuman

ok i've had it with these ellipsisessieses

programmer5000

@totallyhuman ...?

Destructible Lemon

1:09 AM

@ASCII-only idk

ASCII-only

i mean sure it's not the best looking code, but it's pseudocode and shows it's pretty trivial

Zacharý

Okay then totallyhuman

totallyhuman

how do you pluralize ellipsis

> ellipsisessieses

Destructible Lemon

wtf is eqn

totallyhuman

equalin'

equation

Destructible Lemon

1:12 AM

?

Zacharý

@DestructibleLemon Why? It's equation

Destructible Lemon

why eqn required

@ASCII-only doesn't work if the line doesn't go through opposite sides?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon ?

you mean for corner pixels?

Destructible Lemon

sort of

ASCII-only

it isn't that hard to modify for corner pixels

Destructible Lemon

1:16 AM

+----+
|    |
\    |
+\---+

or maybe with a different slope

ASCII-only

what

Destructible Lemon

exactly

ASCII-only

no i mean what's with your diagram

Destructible Lemon

nah I really don't know tbh

ASCII-only

wth are the plusses doing

Destructible Lemon

1:17 AM

that's a line going through a pixel

the pluses are corners of the pixel

ASCII-only

why are there five corners

@DestructibleLemon hmm i see

Destructible Lemon

um

actually that specific one does not offer a counter example

oh wait yeah it does

that one would be fully filled when it should not be

ASCII-only

sure

Destructible Lemon

also there would really only be about 2* as much computing for my solution

ASCII-only

but seriously >_> it isn't hard to figure out the logic needed

@DestructibleLemon how is it not 4x

+ you need to average = even more

and only 5 shades = terribad antialiasing

Destructible Lemon

1:20 AM

because it's only 2 times more rows

@ASCII-only ;_; stop bullying me

ASCII-only

but. seriously if you know like basic algebra it's pretty easy to figure out an algorithm

Destructible Lemon

stahp

also again, when a pixel has two lines in it, that's just annoying and would not work easily

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon uh no

Destructible Lemon

uh yeah it would be annoying

am I gonna have to make like a quadrilateral area calculator?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon A bit annoying I guess

@DestructibleLemon No?

just area under/over two lines, and add/subtract depending on whether they're on the same side

Destructible Lemon

1:24 AM

@ASCII-only also corners will be annoying?

ASCII-only

...

I just described the case for corners

Destructible Lemon

where

starspam?

anyway, I'm not doing your complex antialiasing thing, so terribad is better than none probably

so there

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon :/

it's not complex

Destructible Lemon

yes it is >:(

totallyhuman

(:)

Destructible Lemon

1:27 AM

):<>:(

ASCII-only

well it's way less complex than many things

e.g. this

totallyhuman

@DestructibleLemon :<>:( is a weird face

also, use >:U

Destructible Lemon

no or we'll be trashed

so how do I calculate corners anyway

totallyhuman

take the pointy bits

and put each one of them on one of your fingers

Destructible Lemon

stop

@ASCII-only you never explained how corners work

ASCII-only

1:32 AM

7 mins ago, by ASCII-only

just area under/over two lines, and add/subtract depending on whether they're on the same side

I can do pseudocode if you want

totallyhuman

@DestructibleLemon no

Destructible Lemon

@ASCII-only worst explanation ever!

totallyhuman

@DestructibleLemon also i just realized your avatar has eyes

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon Hmm all start/endpoints will be integers right?

Destructible Lemon

yes

but those are in the middle of pixels

ASCII-only

1:34 AM

yes

Destructible Lemon

was that wrong?

ASCII-only

but this means a corner is either acute or has only one line right?

Destructible Lemon

uh unless it's an obtuse triangle

ASCII-only

???

@DestructibleLemon yes but i mean in a pixel

Destructible Lemon

yeah in a pixel it will have two lines no matter what

ASCII-only

1:37 AM

unless it's obtuse

Destructible Lemon

no

I phrased that badly

if it's obtuse it will still have two lines

ASCII-only

what. why

Destructible Lemon

I guess either it's acute, or it only has one line per half of the pixel maybe?

not sure about that statement

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon :/ but you just said endpoints are only integers

Destructible Lemon

they are

integers are in the middle of pixels

ASCII-only

1:39 AM

:/ what

Destructible Lemon

your previous pseudocode was sort of incorrect for that reason

.5 is on the boundary between two pixels

ASCII-only

O_o

Destructible Lemon

was that wrong?

ASCII-only

okay I guess

that's just making it harder for you though

Destructible Lemon

I fail to see how this is particularly unintuitive

that seemed like the natural way to do it

ASCII-only

1:40 AM

natural? possibly

easy? quite the opposite

Destructible Lemon

quit bullying me 😭

like when you want to draw a line from pixel to pixel that's what you would use

ASCII-only

Idea: just stop doing raster graphics and use JS canvas instead :P

that way you get nice antialiasing without having to do a single thing

Destructible Lemon

that is bad and is js canvas graphical output?

ASCII-only

yes? obviously?

well you can use Java Processing too, which is even easier

Destructible Lemon

like file output

ASCII-only

1:45 AM

With canvas? Well you can't save without user prompt in a browser :/

Destructible Lemon

ehhh tbh maybe the best idea is to just forget about anti-aliasing for now

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@DestructibleLemon Maybe :P

Destructible Lemon

program in a format I can later use in a program for your java canvas thing

then screenshot it even

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@DestructibleLemon what

Destructible Lemon

1:46 AM

ok, so the idea is that I will use my raster graphics implementation here to make the genetic algorithm work

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generic algorithm?

Destructible Lemon

I will have it output, into text file, the triangle dimensions, which I can then use on java canvas

or whatever it is I should be using

@ASCII-only genetic*

can I see this java canvas thing pls?

ASCII-only

@DestructibleLemon what

java canvas thing = Processing?

Destructible Lemon

9 mins ago, by ASCII-only

Idea: just stop doing raster graphics and use JS canvas instead :P

what exactly do it work like

ASCII-only

how is JS java

Destructible Lemon

1:52 AM

;_; stop bullying me about your crappy java things

ASCII-only

it's literally like context.move(x, y); context.lineTo(x, y); context.stroke();

but processing is probably easier

totallyhuman

hmm

it's not good enough though

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Q: Internet Instances

Different people, words, places, numbers, and virtually anything have different numbers of instances on the internet. For example, the word "ruby" (which may refer to the programming language, gem, female name, or anything else) has about 737 billion instances on the internet. The word "computer"...

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@totallyhuman lol

totallyhuman

2:08 AM

:P

eqn = re.sub(r'\)\(', r') * (', eqn)

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@totallyhuman made it better

oh yeah

@totallyhuman here
https://tio.run/##nVJdb8IgFH3vr7j6AlTTzC0xmYnxab9ibA2t1LJQWgG1@/XdpXXO6vYyEhK495xzP5tPX9bmqetU1dTWg5VRYesKKuFLONviKMq1cA5e9gfhVW1onX3I3LNVBHjS1OnauzSFNdCp3JvpnEW9ZysL9CqjfJpSJ3UxB3SfaeHgD0lWJu6QUUsoP80YdzGnNIk3jIf3Gi@ZgyV8gVAtqmwrgD@ugAxif2nxdwSQOL6FNVYeETedXiynUmk52CfrAP7J74qA9pH5LvVtn3pfwne@MSZ6G/837mYy1JXEjGfnJsz@o8SH7vUshiR6X70yno771sqckp2uM6Gh4IbAbMwJg0uGQPIodGAnrtHKUwKEvT68jaadC60v046F3bmreVvpD9ZcFOngj6KyqlD9sl6koC0L29Sy8JjBElpwytBF@DwTZAyFkBZFAxjTRmNRW1CgDFhhdpIuz5EHrMJ1CEtTUMVY130B

more fixed:
https://tio.run/##nVLLTsMwELznK5ZKyGu3inhISCBVPfEVNURO67RGjlNsF4LEv5d1XQKlcMGXxLM7k53NbN7iunPXu51pN52P4HXR@K6FVsU1HDBRFAurQoD7562KpnPY1U96EfldAXSqKtguhqqCKeBIP7vRhBf7ylI3VDXOxKrCoG0zASofaOnQjUhel2Fbo2coX8d8DjI@CIlYihmXh@s0P9gEPJOXxLGqrZcK5NUdsKz6l6h8pAYmxM@2jdcv1DcaDcjr2lid8bNpav4a9BuB8CP4xMPy08PezufIgmb9OcJv9NlZtlaK95XtamVLwWX9tZnxf1TlsNU9kRMPT/dhXMTjTfZ6gSyPAedBOgbniVSGjTURGTA@v3iA8bFQ@tFlHkC/KIsnhKN0LJS1QzqE8qvwLR9ex613gyLmelGs25bUhziyBnue0tfz9DKGG@ghGIeX6XLLiJHdsZ5EUzNZIbDpPBgwDrxyK403hy/nXkOpSdlq0HC@230A

totallyhuman

2:24 AM

curl http://www.google.com/search\?q\=computer says i'm not authorized o0

ASCII-only

yay
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totallyhuman

o0 what are you doing

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@totallyhuman idk

totallyhuman

lol

Nick Clifford

2:43 AM

oh boy, remember this?

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oh hey :D TIO still has my shtriped implementation even though I deleted the repo

totallyhuman