The Nineteenth Byte - 2017-08-22 (page 1 of 6)

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12:03 AM

Anyone good with group theory?

Code names?

@MDXF I know of group theory

Aren't you also good with Rubik's cubes?

That I am not

Darn

Is this the question you asked me to look at earlier?

12:06 AM

.... possibly :P I didn't see any reply so I thought you might not have noticed

Might be because I asked a question the same night and got 20 notifications

I didn't get to look at it. I was on mobile when you pinged me

I'd like to look at it now if you have a link.

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Q: Determine the highest order of an element of a Rubik's Cube group

The period of a sequence of moves on a Rubik's Cube is the number of times it must be performed on a solved cube before the cube returns to its solved state. For example, a $90$° clockwise turn on the right face has a period of four; a $180$° clockwise turn on the right face and a $180$° turn on ...

group-theory functions recreational-mathematics rubiks-cube

Oof

that looks tough

CMC: Golf undefined in JS (<4 bytes pls)

Yeah... +100 bounty for 5 days, still unanswered

12:08 AM

^^ cc @Downgoat

@ASCII-only I tihnk we did something with JSF about this before but you can't go under 4 bytes without variables

@Downgoat :/ damnit that means I can't golf this any more

omy y so verbose

what is it supposed to do

@Downgoat Have you seen the interpreter? :P s=>eval([...s].join(' '))

@Downgoat Hello, World! >_>

@ASCII-only :| omy

> Try your best at life because you'll die trying

is that making sense

12:14 AM

@Downgoat :| it does but it's like telling people to go die

@Downgoat oh also i have like 11 languages i need hello world for, how much should I permabounty

ono, it mean like you're going to eventually die so do your best :|

@ASCII-only permabounty?

is this for the TIO thing

@Downgoat yea

@ASCII-only I'll try to golf later but busy atm

@ASCII-only CC @ConorO'Brien

@Downgoat Don't think it's possible lol :P

definetly possible

12:16 AM

wtf why is this starred

ok golfed like 8 byte but chars are mixed up :|

@MDXF for entertainment

@Downgoat :|||||||| link pls

wait regolfing

ono TIO is throwing error

pls link

@ASCII-only vihan.org/p/tio/…

12:23 AM

@Downgoat I'm changing up the MathQuill to work more inline.

what does that mean?

@Downgoat :O completely forgot about that

user image

owow

@Downgoat 0/10 copy permalink thing no werk

12:26 AM

@ASCII-only water u talkin about

it work just fine for me?

should only break if you are using IE 1

that said I have a library which polyfills most DOM stuff so you can support even like netscape

:/ ono

:|

CMC: Make spaced interpreter in spaced

ok I guess you could use JSF

CMC: find valid spaced code which isn't valid JS

@Downgoat Don't think so, it's just JS with 50% spaces :P

btw if you have time, can you work on termquery visual parser for VSL/LLIR

@Downgoat termquery?

is it like jQuery for terminal

12:32 AM

@ASCII-only staging.vihan.org/LLIR/docs/class/src/Solver/…

@Downgoat Does "use strict"<NEWLINE> x=1 count.

I have a way to apply these to graph structures (and map them over branches) so we can use them to essentially algebraically solve branches

> Creates a TermQuey matching a series of TermTypes

@ppperry no

@ASCII-only shit, s/TermTypes/Term/

why not?

12:33 AM

@Downgoat Also TermQuey

TermQuery is different from Term

> Quey

see this for example

@ASCII-only blame-hooves

um @anyone how much should i put per permabounty for 11 hello world bounties

@Downgoat tio.run/##Ky5ITE5N@f9fqbQ4VaG4pCgzuUSJq0LBVsH4/38A works but tio.run/##y0osSyxOLsosKNHNy09J/f9fqbQ4VaG4pCgzuUSJq0LBVsH4/38A doesn't.

12:36 AM

actually I should just put up a bounty for every language :P

@ASCII-only whats a permabounty halp

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Q: List of bounties with no deadline

This is a list of unofficial, deadline-less (hence not searchable) bounties offered by users on various challenges on the main site. Disclaimer: There is no guarantee that the user will award the bounty for you in case you fulfill its requirement. Especially if the user isn't an active member an...

discussion bounty

@LeakyNun laughs out load and then cries inwardly as I missed a great moment in life

@ppperry I was referring to syntax more so

oh

@Downgoat Don't change the rules after the <s>challenge</s> CMC is posted

I provided code that works in Spaced but not JavaScript.

12:38 AM

btw i was joking with my message FYI don't worry XD

@ASCII-only o

+50 for answering 4 maybe and +100 for answering 8

CMC: what are 2 visual symbols representing some important aspect of your life

@Downgoat Fine, does ""?1:a() work?

that throws runtime error not syntax?

so picky.

:|

12:42 AM

@Downgoat :/ that seems like not much, maybe 50 each?

@ASCII-only to be fair writing henlo world is pretty simplse task

@Downgoat What about golfing it :P

Also just look at the languages in the list

Good luck doing them within a day :P

@ASCII-only [tag:link-reqyest[

@Downgoat linky

@ASCII-only tanks

12:47 AM

@Downgoat yay now i can go places

:D

-------:O they have tank for fish--- owait--- :O your tank has wheels

Destructible Lemon

here is a programmatic sromg someone made: mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=120

CMC: take this split into 52 piece chunks (if you split on space every 52 items A2 B3 is 2 items not 5) and run gcc file.c <input here> and take the output and store. Repeat until all chunks are finished sum output and print. Using batch would be 10/10

Destructible Lemon

@2EZ4RTZ is this something about the game?

@2EZ4RTZ 0/10 crowdsourcing ppcg stuff

12:53 AM

Question: what do you call a node in a directed graph with no children

@DestructibleLemon what game?

@ASCII-only pssh no

Destructible Lemon

@2EZ4RTZ the game

Just trying to run 10k tests fast

@DestructibleLemon DANG IT

I LOST THE GAME

If you star that the world may end

Destructible Lemon

you started it

I didn't start it. Ofc I lost again

I'm as surprised as you! I didn't think it was possible.

I have saved us all!

12:56 AM

I've been free for the game for years.

The only winning move.

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco no you haven't

If you think of the game you are in the game

Destructible Lemon

that's like saying you win pacman by not playing

Shame that I care not for the rules.

I didn't say I won, I said I'm free.

But when you lose the game or stop playing the game you are in the game

The game is very meta

12:57 AM

Nah I'm not in the game.

By saying the game you are in the game

Just because the game thinks I'm in the game doesn't mean I'm in the game.

Can't force me to play Pacman.

Destructible Lemon

thinking you won the game because you saw that comic is like saying you're allowed to use custom fake cards in ccg

But the game is all knowing

And I'm uncaring.

The game has no grasp on those who care not for it.

12:58 AM

The game knows you are in the game even if you think the game thinks you are in the game while you think you are not in the game

That was very meta

Well the game can happily think I'm in the game, that doesn't mean I'm forced to participate.

I'm so meta even this acronym

Or really the game is meta

Destructible Lemon

please stop spamming that acronym

Spamming?

It's a good acronym tho.

Destructible Lemon

1:00 AM

I mean, we all saw the comic, we don't need it in chat over and over

I am so meta even this acronym is not

Destructible Lemon

even if you didn't we still don't

My favourite thing is English Quines.

Destructible Lemon

@HyperNeutrino fail

:P

1:00 AM

Repeat Twice, "Repeat Twice"

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco yields Repeat Twice Repeat Twice

fail

chat.stackexchange.com/…

14 times

Destructible Lemon

we still don't care about hearing it in chat

or I don't anyway

Which IMO is more than enough times

Destructible Lemon

^

1:02 AM

@DestructibleLemon Quote "after saying Quote, then say it." after saying Quote, then say it.

unless it's relevant that's more than enough times

Destructible Lemon

ok, that probably works

spell check pls

> Qoute

10/10

1:03 AM

Sublime Text doesn't have a spell check.

@ATaco Quote "after saying Qoute, then say it.", after saying Qoute, then say it.

Destructible Lemon

well sublime is subpar

:O it worked 10/10 quality quine

Why are you using sublime to chat in TNB?

^ (other question: how are you chat inside subline)

Destructible Lemon

1:04 AM

copy paste

It lets me pretype things to say.

And yes, Copy-paste.

oh, I thought you were using ChatTerm inside like a subliem term

Everything I say is a English quine

(an*)

Destructible Lemon

@2EZ4RTZ nuh uh

1:06 AM

@2EZ4RTZ 0/10 outputs: ""

You cannot argue because you said it in your head. that is my STDOUT

Checkmate boi

Do what this sentence tells you to do, then do what this sentence tells you to do, then say "Hello."

@2EZ4RTZ that is not how english work

also 0/10 violates outsourcing loophole

@Downgoat English language not english programming language

Destructible Lemon

@ATaco Ataco people aren't tail recursion optimised or something so, you only need one of those anyway

1:07 AM

@ATaco That results in an infinite loop

@ppperry The intention is a Fork Bomb.

DV, VTD, and FAS

Human fork bomb

Also: Say then qoute "Say then qoute"

@2EZ4RTZ I sometimes translate a few terms into Chinese before comprehending things for no good reason so I can argue that

1:08 AM

that should be 'do what this sentence tells you to do while doing what this sentence tells you to do"

Golfed the Quine.

@ATaco Hello.

are we doing quine?

WHY ARE YOU SAYING QOUTE NOT QUOTE PLZ FIX

Destructible Lemon

You know what doesn't yield falsehood or truthiness when preceded by its quotation?

@DJMcMayhem brain crashes

1:09 AM

Downcase ^^

Eeeeeh.

@ASCII-only you use overleaf right? halp, is not showing latex

@DestructibleLemon 0/10 the term is "contradiction" and "tautology"

Destructible Lemon

I think I mentioned this cmc before, but maybe i'll mention again

This sentence is a lie. Tell me if the last sentence is a lie.

1:11 AM

No

Destructible Lemon

CMC: make a quine loop of two programs, where one program is just the other program without spaces/whitespace

VTC dupe

Destructible Lemon

>_>

I think this is specified better

will anyone do the challenge?

anyone?

or respond to it?

Is the binary (Yes or No) answer to this question, the same as the answer to (Arbitrary Question)? Will always imply that the answer to Arbitrary Question is Yes

Destructible Lemon

only implies it if we first assume it is not a contradiction

1:18 AM

@ASCII-only halp overleaf is crazy and saying something about english that I don't care abotu

Destructible Lemon

nobody said anything about this cool comic:

30 mins ago, by Destructible Lemon

here is a programmatic sromg someone made: http://www.mezzacotta.net/garfield/?comic=120

@Downgoat :/ why are you using overleaf i thought u say is bad

@Downgoat pls link

@DestructibleLemon because it looks terrible :P

Destructible Lemon

u wot

@ASCII-only onetimesecret.com/private/5p01t0g2oe3bw1fdpu5m91fnrccl69e password is name of the IR VSL is generated to

@ASCII-only tru but need collaboration abiility for science project

@Downgoat i thought you say other one was collaborative too

@Downgoat um. is this wrong link

1:29 AM

sharelatex collab worked? O_o

@ASCII-only whatdo u mean

@Downgoat ???

it say "you saved a secret"

@ASCII-only you have to click burn this secret

Burning a secret will delete it before it has been read (click to confirm).

0

Q: Output n times program length

Given a non negative integer n, output a program in your chosen language that will output some text that has n times as many bytes as the outputted program. The character set and the language must be consistent for all integers. Your submission only needs to handle integers in your language's ran...

code-golf quine

ohhhhhhhhhh

1:31 AM

wait actually use this link: onetimesecret.com/secret/qanytuqynpu323q1rl59esh8u87q9k

Apologies dear citizen! You have been rate limited. ono

is not work? :(

gtg bbl

ono :(

Destructible Lemon

@NewMainPosts sort of a dupe but maybe close the original as dupe

1:40 AM

@DestructibleLemon dupe of...?

Destructible Lemon

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Q: Create output twice the length of the code

The Challenge Write a complete program that writes twice as many bytes to standard output as the length of the program. Rules The program must write ASCII characters to the standard output. The contents of the output doesn't matter. The output, measured in bytes, must be exactly twice the le...

code-challenge quine

eh, imo different but still neither are good challenge

Destructible Lemon

close as a dupe when the new one gets written better

@NewMainPosts RProgN's stupidly small quines reign supreme!

> Unless explicitly specified otherwise in the challenge, challenges tagged quine allow only proper quining techniques; submitting an improper quine is a standard loophole and is disallowed.

you are using quine built in

at least directly reading source code

1:48 AM

Not any worse than the Javascript Bling Quine.

Although this particular method does breach Separate Encoded parts.

Destructible Lemon

remember that time that we had a shorter miniflak quine than brainflak quine?

@ATaco JS bling quine still needs stuff to encode the program and all

Alternatively, I can provide {`{.*}{ for 7 bytes.

Destructible Lemon

here is another sromg

I forgot the «•. method, which saves two bytes.

I'm sure you can't challenge 5 bytes. Mwahaha.

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