The Nineteenth Byte - 2017-07-27 (page 5 of 5)

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Q: Generate a Golf Scorecard

I'm sort of brainstorming a challenge. I'm not really paying attention to question format at the moment. The challenge would be to generate and populate a Golf Scorecard. The output would look something like this: Hole Par Strokes Score 1 3 3 0 2 5 4 ...

discussion code-golf asking-questions

^ sandbox

saaaaaaaaaaaaandbox

pls

wut

oh

fibtraction got unlocked

still closed though

hm

Erik the Outgolfer

@totallyhuman apparently that was the outcome of the dispute

8:01 PM

yeah

"Yes, it is a dupe": +16 / -6

"No, it is not a dupe": +9 / -7

I should never be allowed to use RTL override. ‮lol

I sneak it into places you never would kn‮wo

cool

Erik the Outgolfer

sorry bud that's life

ah that's fine I don't care that much :P

Is RTL override possible in usernames?

8:04 PM

nope

nope

ninja'd

>.<

though I do find I see more people saying that there should be a new Fibonacci challenge than people who disagree with that

@totallyhuman problem is the answers, not the want for a new one

8:05 PM

mm

If the community desire is to have a canonical Fibonacci challenge, then it should be a Fibonacci challenge and not a variant.

Erik the Outgolfer

@totallyhuman remember this rule of thumb:

Jul 20 at 20:14, by trichoplax

To escape closure, a fibonacci challenge has to be as good as the previous 2 fibonacci challenges put together

@AdmBorkBork yes that's fine with me

but imo the desire is there but the votes are not

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Q: Difficulty with Dijkstra's Algorithm with multiple edges in C#

I am writing a solution to a HackerRank.com question based on Dijkstra. It gives the shortest for most of the nodes from the source vertex. But fails to produce the results for a few nodes from the source. I might be missing a clear understanding of the algo and thus want to know what is wrong wi...

It could be the desire is there from vocal users, but the votes are better representative of the non-vocal users. In general, it's more common for people to vote than comment.

8:08 PM

was just about to say that but in a worse way

eh anyways

and apparently I got an upvote right after it got unlocked o0

@totallyhuman someone unlocked it and upvoted it?

locked by dennis, unlocked by community

3 hours ago

@totallyhuman Community really liked it, case closed

heh if it worked like that

Does the bounty-bot still work?

8:14 PM

yes

although I didn't see my bounty...

Sweet. Nice to know it didn't break while I was out.

oh huh

my bounty never showed up

shameless self-advertising:

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Q: How many ways can a road cross a river?

Imagine a straight river and a road that goes across the river n times through bridges. The road does not loop on itself and is infinitely long. This road would be considered an open meander. An open meander is an open curve, that does not intersect itself and extends infinitely at both ends, whi...

code-golf number sequence combinatorics

100 rep! 3 days!

or something :P

CMC: Given a string containing only lowercase letters, for each letter: convert it to its index in the alphabet, add the index of the next letter, mod by 26, and convert back to a letter. (The last letter is removed in this process)

Check it out: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/136218/…

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I'm sort of brainstorming a challenge. I'm not really paying attention to question format at the moment. The challenge would be to generate and populate a Golf Scorecard. The output would look something like this: Hole Par Strokes Score 1 3 3 0 2 5 4 ...

8:17 PM

@NoahCristino but they all look so happy, why are they killing each other ;-;

idk

for codegolf

@NoahCristino No need to advertise in here before the bot has had a chance to process its feed.

@totallyhuman I added a picture do you think it's fine?

@NoahCristino graphics don't add much tbh

esp. the first one

@Riker But it looks cool

ik

8:20 PM

Crap Charcoal has a built-in for Champerowne but it's not accessible easily :(

Helps with visualization

@NoahCristino not really

@NoahCristino eh, you do'nt need it that much

doesn't hurt @Riker

ik

it does >_> hurts my eyes

thx

8:21 PM

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Q: Survive the Murder Circle

There is a circle of n people. Where n is the input. For example n = 14: There is one knife, which starts at position 1. The location of position 1 doesn't really matter, since the surviving position number won't change. The person with the knife kills the person to their left, and then passe...

code-golf array-manipulation

@NoahCristino duplicate of codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/5891/…

but that takes 2 args

@NoahCristino Only difference is your answers will hardcode a 2 and those answers get an input for that

should I delete @StepHen

yes

8:23 PM

@NoahCristino Uh, I think you click yes to is this a dupe

delete works too

@NoahCristino sorry man :( but there's a lot of old questions

deleted

ik

that was a pretty creative one

and then the one about reversing and adding an array

isn't a dup

lol

yeah I dunno xD I guess it helps if some 1st century guy comes up with the same thing

that's why it's usually called the Josephus Problem

@BusinessCat increment a string?

lambda s:''.join(chr((ord(i)-66)%26)for i in s)

@totallyhuman No, like abcd -> [0, 1, 2, 3] -> [0+1, 1+2, 2+3] -> bdf

Meh, forget it, it wasn't a great challenge

oh

8:29 PM

@totallyhuman did you read, this isn't even 1 char shorter

right nvm

i'm an idiot

Don't be saying that just because you got it wrong.

i misread the whole thing though

anyways i need to write a meta post about somebody flagging me which i think was either an accident or straight up abuse

So you say "I misread the problem." or "I didn't understand it." ... getting one thing wrong doesn't confer idiocy on the entirety of "you" as a person.

nice of you to say that but you haven't seen half the things I've done idiotically :P

this is severly lacking. any suggestions?

8:36 PM

doing stupid things doesn't make you stupid

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guys quit trying to convince me i'm not an idiot :P i do "not dumb" stuff and i do "dumb" stuff, i'm part idiot and part not i guess

:P

ooh boy another Fibonacci challenge

i'm not trying to convince you of anything; just backing up timmyd

ty

8:52 PM

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Q: Within Fibonacci Numbers

The Challenge Given an integer input, return the first Fibonacci number that contains the input within itself along with the index of that Fibonacci number (indexes starting at 0 or 1 - up to you, but please mention which in your answer). For example, if given the input of 12, the program would ...

code-golf fibonacci

Bounty-Bot fail ...

no

43 seconds too late

I've posted my 500-rep bounty for TryItOnquine. If the bounty were handed out today, Dennis would win it, and you don't want that, right? ;-) Go fight win!

500 rep!? @AdmBorkBork

why that much?

Because it's a hard problem.

And rep is cheap.

8:55 PM

@SteveBennett I think I had a good reason. I don't quite remember it though. — Dennis ♦ 2 days ago

heh

@AdmBorkBork what if I made an api to get the link

and my code used a get request

That sounds an awful lot like outsourcing the answer (you're relying on TIO to generate the link, rather than generating it inside your code).

standard loophole

that's what I thought

@AdmBorkBork what do you mean it's cheap?

it took me a year to get 500

on stackoverflow

I've gained 500 rep in the past week

8:58 PM

how?

answers and questions!

and a touch of magic but that's not the point

probably since I'm question banned on stackoverflow lol

Mostly questions.

I've done (almost) a question a day this past week.

@AdmBorkBork nice. I doubled that last week :))))) :P

@NoahCristino what did you do ._.

when I first joined that site

I asked awful questions

and now I've gained 500 rep

9:01 PM

ooh i never noticed this fancy schmancy graph

and still banned ;/

rip

Look at what I found on esolang: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/134956/61877

Our profile pictures look to similar in the small form.

Community protected Hello, World! again, can someone undo that?

9:01 PM

@Phoenix on it

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Q: "Hello, World!"

So... uh... this is a bit embarrassing. But we don't have a plain "Hello, World!" challenge yet (despite having 35 variants tagged with hello-world, and counting). While this is not the most interesting code golf in the common languages, finding the shortest solution in certain esolangs can be a ...

code-golf string kolmogorov-complexity hello-world

@NoahCristino it's in TIO too

ya

done

Neat

9:02 PM

I wanna see something bigger in this: codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/136229/61877

interpreter must have taken a while to make

@HyperNeutrino ninja'd you ;)

oh you unprotected it?

@Christopher I cited it last line

yes

lol

that may be why my copy of the window got confused and was not able to unprotect it lol

it was not protected after reloading so it probably got confuzzled xD

9:04 PM

lol

huh your old account had quite a streak of unprotection

and your new account

lol

codegolf.stackexchange.com/revisions/55422/14

out-golfed in bubblegum by 6 bytes >_<

lol

i thought i found a good word list :c

POLL: what's the best language for ascii challenges?

9:10 PM

charcoal

05AB1E can be good sometimes

anything but jelly lol

@HyperNeutrino can I learn some more jelly?

Sure. I'll pop over into JHT

if only i could get rep from comments ;-;

lol

9:13 PM

You can. It's just at a ratio of 1000:1

You're almost there!

?

(disclaimer: that's a flat out lie)

Figured as much :P

> almost

;)

Related: minecraftforum.net/forums/off-topic/… — Jerry Jeremiah 9 hours ago

Lol

9:48 PM

@totallyhuman how if the feature doesn't even exist yet

here i'll give you a timeline: i came to chat, asked for what listify should do for floats, adam gave a good idea, i implemented it, then adam made the challenge and a few hours later i committed and pushed

the interpreter is not an interpreter yet but the function has been implemented :P

10:10 PM

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Q: History Homework Helper

Doing my history reading and note-taking, I can't help but get tired of writing out all these long dates –– 1784 is six entire pencil lifts! jǝǝz! As you can see, I –– like most challenge posters on this site –– am lazy when it comes to writing stuff. Thus, I ask you to please help me shorten so...

code-golf number

@NewMainPosts deja vu

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Base 32 RFC 4648 Compliant Alphabet! code-golfstringkolmogorov-complexity When writing my handy-dandy totp/hotp token implementation in Python and Swift (ad: here), I encountered for the first time RFC 4648. There is a nice and long memo about RFC 4648, but I only had to focus on a very specifi...

Can I get someone's feedback on this? No one's really said anything about it... sorry if I'm getting spammy

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Hello, World! with semi-common characters code-golf hello-world restricted-source As some of you may know, to get a language onto Dennis's wonderful Try It Online!, a Hello, World! program is required. Recently, Dennis pushed up a way to load these programs from the website. Here is a JSON past...

I think it is still pretty dupeworthy

also the choice of characters is pretty arbitrary

10:31 PM

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A: Should "Code the Huffman!" remain closed as a duplicate of a very old question?

TL;DR: They are duplicates. Close the old one. First, I'd like to clarify that I do think the questions are duplicates. I agree with Peter that a difference in the output format counts as a "minor modification" to existing answers, unless the output formatting is the core of the challenge (which...

oh man i just found the perfect argument for fibtraction and it's too late >_<

@totallyhuman the problem is we're never going to close the original Fibonacci

well not for fibtraction but for a replacement

@totallyhuman that's always been an option, and creating a canonical Fibonacci is what everyone wants... but there's just SO many answers on the old one

i still think it doesn't have a lot of answers

don't compare it to your every day challenge

compare it to, say our quine challenge

@totallyhuman 165 is not a lot!?!

10:33 PM

which is definitely much harder but has around 300 answers

Quine has 234, Hello, World! has 604, Primality Test has 217

hi

hi

234?

wait i thought it was more

hang on

hmmm

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Q: Golf you a quine for great good!

Using your language of choice, golf a quine. A quine is a non-empty computer program which takes no input and produces a copy of its own source code as its only output. No cheating -- that means that you can't just read the source file and print it. Also, in many languages, an empty file is...

code-golf quine

10:35 PM

> 323 Answers

but... it says 234 on the search

there can't be that many deleted answers

@totallyhuman codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/quine

Brainflak interpreter in python?

Fib has 177 (instead of 165) when you get into it, guess quine has a ton of deleted

@totallyhuman the deleted answers start on page 8, out of 11 pages 0.o

wow

how many does fibonacci have

@totallyhuman 12 deleted answers

10:38 PM

lol

While quine has 89

@totallyhuman do you have a list.join builtin yet?

i was in the middle of doing that

then i got interrupted by internet

i'm trying to find characters though

@DJMcMayhem interpreter for brain-flak in python with full features?

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Q: Sysadmin: Fastest way to get fired

You're the newest sysadmin at your company. You have full admin privs across the board. The company utilizes both Windows and Unix. Challenge: Come up with a some code that under the right conditions (preferably simple) would cause horrendous harm to your organization and quickly get you fire...

love looking at a crashing and burning question in tnb

oh no OP is salty

10:48 PM

#RoastOP

I like how Dennis says "I'm voting to close this question" but in reality he could just be saying "I'm closing this question" :P

@totallyhuman also called dennis an admin

Sheesh. OP is salty. Hope he doesn't come back to cause trouble. Besides, it doesn't even have an objective scoring/winning system!

@totallyhuman use charcoal's characters

@ASCII-only teach me charcoal

Pls

I do not understand it

10:56 PM

@Christopher git pull charcoal -> charcoaltutor.py (-v if you want verbose, -g if you want grave mode)

Try the verbose mode

@ASCII-only genius

I just realized that there's nobody else above level 2 in JHT :(

> 4. Finalist: Aaaaaalmost an expert! A liiiiitle bit and you're done!

@ASCII-only wait

@ASCII-only bias :P

10:58 PM

lol I've been L4 for a couple of months now; probably over half the time I've been in JHT. "little bit"

But what would they be

xD

@Christopher ?

@ASCII-only It needs regex

@Christopher oh yeah you need to pip3 install regex

10:59 PM

@ASCII-only idk I ran tutor.py and it said i needed regex

@HyperNeutrino jht?

I don't see a join command in charcoal

installing

@totallyhuman because it's an operator?

@ASCII-only well it needs admin so that is a no

11:00 PM

@totallyhuman github.com/somebody1234/Charcoal/wiki/Operators#binary

@ASCII-only ah yeah just found it

@Christopher :| oh no try pip3 install --user regex?

rip me

All i wanted was to make a Christmas tree :_(

Hmm

I have three join built-ins though

Space, newline, arbitrary

yay

11:02 PM

I do however like your find character

:D

I shall borrow that

Destructible Lemon

hi

@Christopher does it work (also once you get it christmas tree is just ./charcoal examples/christmas -i "<insertsizehere>")

hi

11:05 PM

@ASCII-only It works

but I am stuck

@Christopher :| where

lvl 4. math

@Christopher don't forget to cast (also you need to do math that's the point of that level)

I never would've guessed

@ASCII-only but idk how to do math in charcole

11:08 PM

hmm i need a new level for preinitialized inputs

Like is it the cast thing then math function then inputs?

@Christopher but it just gave you the operators :(

@Christopher oh yeah charcoal is prefix i should probably mention that, basically everything looks like a function just operators have return values

@ASCII-only Also uhh i need a new font. It cannot render it

lol

@Christopher :| oh no rip well you can always use grave/verbose mode, or install GNU Unifont or whatever

11:38 PM

@Christopher Doesn't exist

@ASCII-only Jelly HyperTraining

Destructible Lemon

so, for anyone that wasn't here last time I mentioned it, I'm planning a cooperative koth thing, which is probably out of scope for on-site but should still be fun.

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