The Nineteenth Byte

12:00 AM

>>> 'Hello, there: My world'.split(', :')
['Hello, there: My world']

that's about the best way i can describe it

Noah Cristino

Are there any online machine code interpreters?

that's assembly not machine code

I guess I'll just use a C wrapper

ASCII-only

@NoahCristino i know, copied wrong link, this?

ATaco

@totallyhuman Can you make arguments optional..?

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

Hi I changed my name

ATaco

That's horrifying I love it.

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

12:03 AM

yay

try pinging me (without replying)

totallyhuman

oh god

why

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

(•◡•)

ASCII-only

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo Yeah what

ATaco

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo Done.

Noah Cristino

nvm

ASCII-only

12:04 AM

@ + tab

totallyhuman

also you've increased the byte count of your name

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

There's a benzene ring character in the Miscellaneous Technical section of the Symbols block

ATaco

You're the first to pop up when you type @.

Noah Cristino

Who said program in binary?

totallyhuman

not very golfy

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

12:04 AM

Oh I was hoping that the Eta character would prevent you from pinging me lol

@totallyhuman ಠ_ಠ

ATaco

Try the RTL character.

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

Unfortunately, that's not a valid username character. I tried before :P

I also tried to put a benzene ring in my username. Too bad they didn't accept it. :P

Took me a while to get all of the characters for my username xD Only the o is still a normal o.

totallyhuman

but does this work‏

aw :c

Noah Cristino

how do you change your username?

totallyhuman

carefully

ASCII-only

12:06 AM

@NoahCristino Just change it on your parent user -> profile

Noah Cristino

like this: stackexchange.com/users/9432971/noah-cristino

totallyhuman

> Display Name can only contain letters, digits, spaces, apostrophes or hyphens and must start with a letter or digit

wat

but my monospace handle "totally𝚑𝚞𝚖𝚊𝚗" ;-;

Noah Cristino

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo yours is changed on everything but stackexchange

how did you do that?

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo helppp

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

idk probably caching

Noah Cristino

how did you change yours?

ASCII-only

12:09 AM

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo How could you say Scratch isn't code-based D:

totallyhuman

it isn't

it never will be

ASCII-only

@totallyhuman Who said that

@totallyhuman It has been (kinda) for ages

totallyhuman

it must be flung into the pits of- hey wait

ASCII-only

@NoahCristino You have an option to make changes apply to every profile

Noah Cristino

but Display Name can only contain letters, digits, spaces, apostrophes or hyphens and must start with a letter or digit

how did you do that

totallyhuman

12:10 AM

yes those are valid letters in other languages

greek mostly

code-based scratch

>_<

@ASCII-only lol xD

i still want totally𝚑𝚞𝚖𝚊𝚗 ;-;

hey but it allows small caps?

ATaco

I want 🌮

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

12:16 AM

Quote from one of my friends:

> The taco was a red herring

:P

ATaco

The 🌮 was a 🐠

Destructible Lemon

not the gratuitous greek letters!

totallyhuman

well now i'm small caps

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

ono

totallyʜᴜᴍᴀɴ

lol

Destructible Lemon

12:18 AM

@ATaco thats not red and not a herring I think.... also the first emoji does not render

totallyʜᴜᴍᴀɴ

@DestructibleLemon the latter is your computer's fault :P

crap i don't like the small caps

abort mission abort mission!

Destructible Lemon

fairly sure you have to wait now

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

BORK ALERT 🚨 BORK ALERT 🚨 BORK ALERT

totallyʜᴜᴍᴀɴ

nope

it confirmed it

now just gotta wait for the caching

ATaco

BORK ALERT 🚨 BORK ALERT 🚨 BORK ALERT is the strangest command I have and I love it secretly.

totallyʜᴜᴍᴀɴ

12:21 AM

//bboorrkkaalleerrtt how do i type that

New Sandboxed Posts

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

I Love Sardines I love sardines, I can't get enough of them, and so does my computer, the Omnilang 5000, which is language agnostic. To give my computer the joy of experiencing sardines, I've decided to feed him a number of programs that are capable of displaying on the screen tins of sardines ...

totallyʜᴜᴍᴀɴ

@NewSandboxedPosts that's nice to know

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

@totallyʜᴜᴍᴀɴ Just go to your chat profile and change your parent account to the exact same thing. Forces an update

totallyhuman

hi

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

yay

totallyhuman

12:23 AM

i want monospace though ;-;

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

rip

ASCII-only

@totallyhuman Then use monospace characters?

totallyhuman

doesn't accept

ASCII-only

@totallyhuman 𝚝𝚘𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢𝚑𝚞𝚖𝚊𝚗 doesn't work?

totallyhuman

totally𝚑𝚞𝚖𝚊𝚗 throws the error

@ASCII-only yup

ASCII-only

12:26 AM

oh :(

@NoahCristino Oh btw Pyth can't really compete with Jelly, the only ones that can are RProgN, O5AB1E, Actually etc

i.e. the ones with SBCS

totallyhuman

also you shouldn't be suggesting that, it's not ASCII :P

ATaco

@ASCII-only Clearly you've not Seen RProgN2.

Even though it uses SBCS, it's not very golfy.

ASCII-only

@ATaco Oh nvm i thought it was golfy >_>

ATaco

It's a golf-lang, but stackbased just can't compete.

Still has the best quines tho.

totallyhuman

i really want to make a tacit language except i don't know how to >_<

ASCII-only

12:34 AM

@ATaco How can stackbased not compete, are you saying Pyth/CJam aren't competitive

Destructible Lemon

@totallyhuman fullwidth?

ATaco

I'm saying that Tacit is just endlessly more efficient than Stackbased.

betseg

totally 🇭 🇺 🇲 🇦 🇳

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

none of that rendered :P

betseg

totally🇭🇺🇲🇦🇳

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

12:36 AM

Why are you using regional indicators xD

Destructible Lemon

I would like to know too

ATaco

Still, I highly recommend everyone learn RProgN2.

betseg

they're monospace

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

Also the sketchiest thing ever is that my wireless adapter broke so I'm using a USB adapter to give me WiFi >.< so if I unplug it then I lose WiFi right away xD

In other news, I created the repository for my currently completely useless language :P

Anyway, I'll be right back :P o/

ATaco

{`{.}{ Look at that short as hell quine.

Look at it!

betseg

12:39 AM

o_o

ATaco

And that's not even it's shorted valid expandable quine.

That's just the nicest on the eyes.

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

uh what how does that work ಠ_ಠ

ATaco

{ searches for a matching }, if it finds one, it defines it as a function and skips to its }. Then, { can't find one, so it uses the slightly broken behavior of moving back to index 1 of the currently executing scope, which happens to skip the first {, which executes the function body. `{. appends a { and stringifies the function, and } than halts the program. Which implicitly prints the output.

betseg

Ⓑ⒠⒯🄪ⓔⒼ

i can use this

can you render this?

totallyhuman

arities = {
	'P': 1
}

10/10

ATaco

12:43 AM

Depending on the challenge, the quine framework used can be as low as Two bytes

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

yup :P

@ATaco wut o_O

ATaco

« is usually a function definer as well, but like { it's broken in fun ways that make writing quines easier.

totallyhuman

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo hey did you work on your oeis module?

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

er whoops may have forgotten about that >.<

ATaco

1\n«\ is a 4 byte quine, where \n is a newline literal.

Try it online!

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

12:45 AM

hm. interesting

ASCII-only

@ATaco ...

ATaco

The issue with that one is it's very much so tip toeing the line of "Literal Only" quine, even though it's expandable.

Destructible Lemon

hi guys... I'm thinking about making a "cooperative koth"... I need help coming up with some names and things. could you help me out?

Cooperative KotH

Is this something that could work on PPCG?

ATaco

As an example, This is my solution to the Tri-interquine challenge, which uses the same template.

RProgN aims to make our Quine Definition be forced to change as many times as possible, it's already done it once with the 1\n1 quine.

totallyhuman

Nice

Destructible Lemon

12:49 AM

r00d

ATaco

RProgN2 has a tutorial now, too

totallyhuman

@SergeyGrinev D: why is it so scary — ASCII-only 4 mins ago

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

Charcoal is scary sometimes k :P

> camo.githubusercontent.com/…

why xD

ATaco

Honestly I think people should accept answers more, I'm 4.2k rep in, and I've never once been marked winner to challenges I've won

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo It was important.

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

@ATaco ಠ_ಠ

Destructible Lemon

12:53 AM

@ATaco weep

totallyhuman

Accepting is hardly ever considered winning

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

@ATaco oh no we are very sorry for your losses

I wonder if I've ever been accepted

ATaco

Why do so many people not accept ;-;

totallyhuman

I don't like to

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

Hm I've been accepted a few times

Once for the carbon chain challenge that nobody else has answered :P

I've accepted on 18/46 of my questions

ATaco

12:55 AM

I've had a similar problem in WorldBuilding.SE

ASCII-only

@ATaco Because sometimes there are multiple valid answers?

ASCII-only

1:11 AM

Anyone good at F# here?

Downgoat

@ASCII-only what are you using it for?

ASCII-only

@Downgoat golf

Business Cat

Is there an easy way to find totient besides trying every single number?

Doesn't look like there is

Other than if n is prime it's n-1

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

Remind me: What's totient again?

Dennis

@BusinessCat Sure, multiply the number by (p-1)/p for each of its prime factors.

Business Cat

1:20 AM

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo The number of positive integers < n that are coprime with n

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

@BusinessCat Ah okay.

Dennis

@BusinessCat Less or equal.

Business Cat

@Dennis For each distinct factor, right?

trichoplax

→ 9 messages moved to Trash

Business Cat

@Dennis True, because totient(1) = 1 right?

Dennis

1:21 AM

Yes.

trichoplax

→ 17 messages moved to Formic Functions

totallyhuman

yesterday, by totallyhuman

*moving intensifies*

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

lol

Business Cat

@Dennis That works nicely, thanks

Christopher

@DJMcMayhem I have something that you will like coming soon to your inbox

Noah Cristino

1:33 AM

hi

Christopher

hi

totallyhuman

hi

Noah Cristino

I wanna cool name like hyper

trying to find some stuff

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

lol my name is cool? thanks :P

ASCII-only

this looks really redundant but idk how to shorten it: char(((int(x)-32)*(int(q.[i])-32))%95+32)

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

1:34 AM

what language?

Christopher

@NoahCristino Call it Christopher2

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

ಠ_ಠ

ASCII-only

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo F#

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

Ah okay. Not sure how to shorten that then.

It does look a bit excessive with the ((( at the beginning but I don't see how to do it otherwise.

Noah Cristino

boom

иσαн cяişтiпσ

Christopher

1:38 AM

Lame

ChristopherII is better

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo

@Christopher r00d

Christopher

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷo ruud

Noah Cristino

yas

it worked

it needs to load

but stackoverflow.com/users/7015861/…

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷσ

I decided to change the o in my username :P

I stole your o thanks :P

anyway brb in a bit

Dennis

Oh dear, we finally outlived the small caps, and now this...

ASCII-only

1:41 AM

@Dennis outlived?

Dennis

Small caps seem to have disappeared from usernames.

Christopher

@Dennis Smallcaps? Huh

Dennis

And usernames made sense again, and everyone was easily pingable again.

totallyhuman

ᴅᴇɴɴɪs

Dennis

At least small caps didn't bleed into adjacent messages, unlike the Zalgo stuff my computer can't render.

Christopher

1:45 AM

@DJMcMayhem make it tmr you will be amazed and happy

@Dennis I will always stay normal for you :D

Wheat Wizard

I remember when everyone thought 0''s username broke chat on firefox

Christopher

*as normal as people on PPCG can be

Dennis

@Christopher And I appreciate it.

Christopher

@WheatWizard oh the meta post about removing popcon I posted

Dennis

@WheatWizard Well, parts of it did. :P

Christopher

1:46 AM

@ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷσ Dennis appreciates me.

Take that

totallyhuman

"what do you have, punk"

Christopher

Anyways I gtg to bed to avoid falling asleep while driving and totaling another car

Important things

Wheat Wizard

@Dennis I don't know how far you followed it but it turned out that it only happened if you put his name in a code block. We submitted it to the meta and it was fixed. So some good came of it :)

Christopher

(yes another)

@WheatWizard All my bugs never are fixed :_(

trichoplax

Does anyone else see the avatar bar stop after 4 avatars and start again on the next row?

Christopher

1:48 AM

I have 6

Wheat Wizard

I'm not seeing that (Desktop,chrome)

trichoplax

Seems to put ppperry on one row and everyone else above or below

totallyhuman

cannot repro

trichoplax

Just tried Chrome and it's fine there. Only seems to affect Firefox. Refreshing the page fixed it

Dennis

@WheatWizard 0' TABLE Students

2

ΗγρεŗN̛ευτŗιͷσ

1:53 AM

@Dennis Should I un-mess-up my name? :P

trichoplax

That would be fantastic

totallyhuman

the r and the n are particularly annoying on my machine

idk why

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher Huh?

totallyhuman

> Trigram for heaven: ☰

HyperNeutrino

name changed: reason: "Make Dennis happy" (reference to the edit where I changed "esoteric language" to "recreational language" because Dennis doesn't like "esoteric" :P)

Dennis

1:55 AM

@HyperNeutrino I'd be glad if you did. It will attract imitators, and I'm not looking forward to it.

HyperNeutrino

Alright. I've changed my name back to normal :)

Dennis

\o/

HyperNeutrino

/o\

totallyhuman

it's funny how ☰ is going to be "split by newline" :P

HyperNeutrino

It's a person standing in front of a lake with their arms raised

totallyhuman

1:57 AM

when apparently it's the trigram for heaven

HyperNeutrino

Hm interesting. Trigrams are pretty cool :P

totallyhuman

split by newline isn't that important

HyperNeutrino

Hey you could use them for number literals xD Or just use normal things... :P

Or you could use the 64 hexagrams for number literals...

totallyhuman

dear lord no ^^

HyperNeutrino

:P A complete waste of 64 of the 256 commands you can use, but why not xD

Destructible Lemon

1:59 AM

not completely

HyperNeutrino

Or just have one character that takes the next character and turns it into a number in the range [0, 256) based on its ord :P

@DestructibleLemon well mostly at any rate :P

totallyhuman

> Monogram for earth: 𝌀

ASCII-only

@HyperNeutrino Oh hey paintbrush looks like it's coming along nicely

totallyhuman

gosh darn it are all of my split command characters gonna be n-grams

HyperNeutrino

@ASCII-only haha no way, it's like twice as long as Charcoal always :P

ASCII-only

2:01 AM

@HyperNeutrino Well really that's what Charcoal was like for a while

HyperNeutrino

Ah I see :P But at least you worked on it :P

totallyhuman

@HyperNeutrino you have too many languages o0

HyperNeutrino

I know :P I have like 5 and none of them work :c

totallyhuman

positron seems to be working

also now we're gonna have oasis vs. cquents vs. ceres

HyperNeutrino

yup c:

Except Oasis and cQuents are actually working properly

ceres hardly has a spec :c

totallyhuman

2:05 AM

> Hexagram for splitting apart: ䷖

huuurgh

HyperNeutrino

That should be split by space :P

Is this for intrnt?

totallyhuman

yes

i like how i'm feeling so good about how this is going except i have not written the meat of the interpreter yet >_<

lol

anyways gtg bye

o/

2:34 AM

Doorknob's Malbolge purportedly got cracked by a newbie :)

@HyperNeutrino but cQuents isn't golfy so :P

and it's a pain for anyone except me to use because it's unintuitive and my docs are currently crap

Business Cat

@StepHen It timed out on TIO for me

Step Hen

@BusinessCat They both used local so I dunno

Business Cat

Dennis said it was the same interpreter that's used on TIO

Step Hen

@BusinessCat I know, but it's probably a lot slower on TIO

Business Cat

2:50 AM

> This must be <60 seconds, so that the code can be tested on TIO.

New Main Posts

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Q: Do the circles intersect?

This question is similar to Do the circles overlap?, except your program should return True if the circumference of one circle intersects the other, and false if they do not. If they touch, this is considered an intersection. Note that concentric circles only intersect when both radii are equal ...

ASCII-only

3:20 AM

@Anyone does anyone know any ascii art to add to charcoal other than a goat

Destructible Lemon

hmmmm

how about a piece of charcoal

Downgoat

@ASCII-only different shapes might be useful

Destructible Lemon

how about a cow

MD XF

3:38 AM

@HyperNeutrino Wait, why did you change it?

@ASCII-only The PPCG logo in ASCII

Destructible Lemon

^

how about a cat

MD XF

Or a doggo!

Ooh, an ASCII keyboard

Downgoat

^ that would be useful

Destructible Lemon

a happy face

Titus

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Newly Featured Questions

4:13 AM

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Q: Given a list of circles, output the area of the smallest containing rectangle

You will be given a list of radii, you must output the area of the smallest rectangle which they will all fit in. For example, given the list [5,3,1.5] you would output 157.460. This is the image: The width is 15.7460 and the height is 10, so the area is 157.460 Rules: You get the list vi...

code-golf math

Husnain Raza

4:28 AM

can someone help me out with how to write a program to output the nth digit of A66 in the OEIS

for this challenge: codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/133754/…

ASCII-only

@HusnainRaza wait what is that even valid

Husnain Raza

what happened?

ASCII-only

@HusnainRaza you can't just read the answers from a file

Husnain Raza

oh uh

idk they said it was ok

nobody said anything

ASCII-only

huh weird

Husnain Raza

4:34 AM

plus it has 7 answers after it :(

i dont want to mess stuff up

ASCII-only

@Downgoat pls gib examples

@MDXF Pls link

Husnain Raza

I messed up the whole thread D:

Downgoat

@ASCII-only like octagon, pentagon, etc.

though I think charcoal probabbly have built in already for most fo those

ASCII-only

@Downgoat pls give example of actual shape

@Downgoat not exactly, how would it do pentagon

also i was thinking more complex ascii art e.g. goat

Downgoat

      ,'.
    ,'   `.
  ,'       `.
,'           `.
\             /
 \           /
  \         /
   \_______/

ASCII-only

4:37 AM

@Downgoat why is this useful

Downgoat

why is an ascii-art goat useful

ASCII-only

@Downgoat because it's a goat

Downgoat

ok then built in that draw ascii-art of dennis's avatar

ASCII-only

@Downgoat pls pastebin (also maybe ascii keyboard)

Husnain Raza

wait so what should i do

should i delete the original answer

ASCII-only

4:39 AM

@HusnainRaza no idea, i didn't write the challenge so idk if it's valid

Husnain Raza

they counted that as valid but didn't count the most recent one where i hardcoded a sequence .-.

ASCII-only

@Downgoat are you using algorithm

Downgoat

yes

ASCII-only

@Downgoat which one

Downgoat

@ASCII-only https://google.com

ASCII-only

4:44 AM

@Downgoat +1 very nice ascii art algorithm

Downgoat

thanks

Destructible Lemon

@Downgoat -1

>:D

Downgoat

:( did Bing send you

Wheat Wizard

5:03 AM

                          _,-'''--,.__          _
                        _.*''          __''>#=--"""
     _               ./"          _.-''        '\._
    / "'--.____  _.-'       __.-''                 '\.
   /           "Y       __/"  ///                    "\.
  |           /"     _/"    ///   --.________   *       "\
  |                        //                /""|---______"\
  |                .  ""'--.__                  H         _./
  |  /""-.          \\._      '''''---------    H   __.--'

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@Downgoat I tried

ATaco

5:18 AM

MegaDennis.

Phoenix

CC ^^^ @Dennis

Dennis

I've been called a lot of things, but never a built-in. :P

18

PICASCII is nice, but the results are usually too big.

Destructible Lemon

@WheatWizard this ought to confuse people who see the starboard later

@WheatWizard ＲＡＲＥＤＥＮＮＩＳ

ASCII-only

5:57 AM

@Downgoat pls still need keyboard ASCII art

@Downgoat -1 not regular

Sarge Borsch

6:34 AM

Hello buddies. I had an idea for a challenge but first, I need to have a sure answer to this question: is it possible to have non-halting code in SQL? Or SQL code is guaranteed to eventually halt? When I searched the web for termination/halting of SQL, I always got results related to terminating as in ";" which is a different meaning of the word, or some "hang" situations caused by background workers which is irrelevant to the SQL language.

Downgoat

@ASCII-only cited-needation

@SargeBorsch I'm sure you can use with .. from .. + conditionals to do some weird stuff. Most SQL derivatives are TC

Sarge Borsch

ah yeah, I was drunk and completely forgot to search for TC. thank you!

ASCII-only

@Downgoat would calculate distances but too lazy

Downgoat

@ASCII-only ok fixed: ⬟

Mr. Xcoder

6:50 AM

What do you think about a cops-and-robbers answer-chaining?

We've never had one before.

The idea is, that the next cop submission can only be posted once the one before is cracked.

The new cop must not be the previous robber or cop.

Now I have the concept, I only need the idea.

Destructible Lemon

@Mr.Xcoder isn't there one in the sandbox?

Mr. Xcoder

@DestructibleLemon What where?

Destructible Lemon

idk

it was something about bombs

Mr. Xcoder

Wasn't that a CnR with kolmogorov-complexity?

Destructible Lemon

that might be a different thing even

Mr. Xcoder

7:07 AM

@DestructibleLemon I'll sandbox it once I'm done

Destructible Lemon

ok

Mr. Xcoder

But I have no ideas for now

I'll leave it for later

micsthepick

Why do people keep downvoting this:

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Q: Do the circles intersect?

This question is similar to Do the circles overlap?, except your program should return True if the circumference of one circle intersects the other, and false if they do not. If they touch, this is considered an intersection. Note that concentric circles only intersect when both radii are equal ...

code-golf decision-problem

ASCII-only

7:25 AM

@micsthepick because it's pretty much a duplicate

@Mr.Xcoder not really answer chaining