The Nineteenth Byte

Phoenix

12:01 AM

CMC: Golf ;# code by reducing runs of more than 127 ;s in a row, and removing trailing ;s.

Destructible Lemon

hmmm, didn't someone make a language a lot like this before?

Phoenix

deadfish

Destructible Lemon

nope.

esolangs.org/wiki/MiniStringFuck

it wasn't funny then and it isn't funny now tbh

tfw your basic bot still wins around 30% of the time :)

DJMcMayhem

12:19 AM

Ó;û127}
$t#D

11 bytes in V

Wait actually 12

Phoenix

$t#D goes to the last # and deletes until the end of the line, I think, but I'm not sure how Ó;û127} works.

DJMcMayhem

It expands to :s/;\{127}//g

Phoenix

Ah

Wait, that regex matches ;{127} literally because it escapes the {, not 127 ;s.

Destructible Lemon

also I love a simplistic bot koth where the random bot is bad

Luis Mendo

@Dennis Can I ask why did you delete this challenge? Anything wrong with it? There was a bounty on it, and it had several answers

totallyhuman

12:26 AM

Wow

I got a few upvotes as soon as I added an explanation

Conor O'Brien

because it got bumped to the top of the page

thanks for using my language :)

totallyhuman

Seemed appropriate :D

Conor O'Brien

yeah

DJMcMayhem

@Phoenix You're backwards. ;{127} would match a literal, \{} turns it into special meaning

Phoenix

@ConorO'Brien It got bumped to the front page 15 minutes before by JonathanAllan and 15 minutes before that by me.

Conor O'Brien

12:28 AM

it's unfortunate that this language is basically my most popular one ;-;

Ørjan Johansen

Hello. I just flagged a message, but maybe I should mention it here: A lot, perhaps most, of MD XF's recent quine answers are directly copied from rosettacode.

Phoenix

@DJMcMayhem Is vim regex different from other regex or is java regex different from other regex

docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/util/regex/Pattern.html

Conor O'Brien

@Phoenix it is. sed regex does it, too

Destructible Lemon

@ØrjanJohansen :O

Conor O'Brien

@ØrjanJohansen :/

Destructible Lemon

12:29 AM

I have been deceived!

Phoenix

._.

That's... not nice.

DJMcMayhem

@Phoenix most regexes are different.

Phoenix

Right but Foo{n} I thought was pretty standard

Like how [abc] is always a character class.

Conor O'Brien

@totallyhuman I edited your answer's explanation, feel free to revert it.

DJMcMayhem

Idk

Luis Mendo

12:31 AM

@Dennis Oh, I just saw what happened to the OP's account. Does suspension imply deletion of all their challenges?

Conor O'Brien

@Phoenix it is, but some flavours require it to be escaped

DJMcMayhem

@Phoenix not always. In Vim, /\M[abc] will match a literal [abc]

Phoenix

._.

totallyhuman

@ConorO'Brien ah thanks

Conor O'Brien

C:\Users\Conor O'Brien\Documents\Programming\anagolf
λ echo Hello!|sed -r s/l{2}/@/g
Hello!

C:\Users\Conor O'Brien\Documents\Programming\anagolf
λ echo Hello!|sed -r s/l\{2}/@/g
He@o!

DJMcMayhem

12:34 AM

@LuisMendo It does not, but I assume that they're related in this case.

Plagiarism maybe? Obviously I can't say for sure

Phoenix

@ConorO'Brien What is λ

Conor O'Brien

it's my prompt

like $ on bash

Phoenix

Y tho

Conor O'Brien

@totallyhuman your answer is really quite clever btw :) my own solution was 14 bytes (standard cat program)

@Phoenix (1) lambdas are cool (2) it's the default for cmder

(3) why not >_>

Phoenix

cmder? Haven't heard of it.

Conor O'Brien

12:36 AM

it's a console emulator for windows

Phoenix

It is my firm belief that a prompt should be one one or three >s

totallyhuman

@ConorO'Brien thanks :D

Conor O'Brien

oh, me too:

Phoenix

@ConorO'Brien I have no idea what about it is better than cmd in the base version, but the git-for-windows version seems incredibly convenient.

Conor O'Brien

Phoenix

12:39 AM

@ConorO'Brien 500 internal server error

Conor O'Brien

@Phoenix git for windows is ugly and non-user friendly. I like being able to select text thank you very much :P

also, multitasking

totallyhuman

haha

Conor O'Brien

@MDXF it is meeeeee

Phoenix

@ConorO'Brien Are you talking about cmder's git-for-windows? I actually want it for the included unix commands and not the git functionality itself.

Conor O'Brien

@Phoenix no, github's git-for-windows

totallyhuman

12:41 AM

Ooh whoops I forgot to give credit to ataco

Phoenix

@ConorO'Brien That just opens a powershell instance. You can select text in it.

totallyhuman

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to ;-;

Phoenix

(Won't say powershell isn't ugly, but still)

Conor O'Brien

@Phoenix nope.

Phoenix

I just opened it right now. It's called git shell

Conor O'Brien

12:44 AM

mine's git CMD

Helka Homba

Idea: make spherical soap so it won't break in half when small like bars

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Q: Dump stack to array

I'm new to this code-golfing thing and I'm very interested in CJam. Is there a way to get all the current stack as an array? I think I can do it with something like [1$ 2$...n$] but I would have to get the stack's length and use some kind of iterator (or use a fixed length stack... useless). But...

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totallyhuman

@HelkaHomba the soap industry is scamming you

Helka Homba

actually ball-soap might roll too much. it's already slippery

Conor O'Brien

@NewMainPosts please, don't downvote without comment. the poor dude is looking for help :(

Destructible Lemon

12:48 AM

soap with handles

soap with brakes

Helka Homba

icosahedral soap

Destructible Lemon

icosahedral chocolate

MD XF

@ConorO'Brien Ah, that's right :D

Destructible Lemon

soap with handle... soap dagger?

Helka Homba

@DestructibleLemon just shape the soap like a back scrubber and you save a lot of time

totallyhuman

12:52 AM

So you'd have to switch the soap out?

Or do you want the handle made out of soap too

Helka Homba

@totallyhuman yeah

make the bathtub out of soap while you're at it

Destructible Lemon

soap with wings so it can manoeuvre back up if you drop it

totallyhuman

:o then we should have sentient soap

Helka Homba

5

totallyhuman

Dear lord...

Dennis

1:00 AM

@LuisMendo Not automatically, but there are a few things that will get you suspended and your content removed. Of course, I can neither confirm nor deny that this is what happened here.

Ørjan Johansen

@Dennis MD XF just posted another 3 new quines from rosettacode to the quine page.

@MDXF I'm not sure that's even legal (they're both open source but different licenses), but copying other people's work without attribution...

MD XF

@ØrjanJohansen I was planning on posting them all then bulk-editing the RosettaCode link in

I can do that now if it's looking suspicious

Phoenix

It is.

It is looking very suspicious.

MD XF

@Phoenix Editing now.

Sorry about that.

I just figured we should have all possible quines...

You do realize there are 25 other answers with quines from RosettaCode on that "thread", right?

The ALGOL-68 is quite popular and not only from RosettaCode however, do I need to link that?

Conor O'Brien

I'd much rather prefer you try to make your own quine in each language. Then, you could claim it as your own, and maybe even outgolf the source quine, which is not necessarily intended to be short.

Phoenix

1:07 AM

If you can't find the original source, you mention that but don't need to link anything.

Also, if something isn't your own work, it is proper to make it a community wiki.

MD XF

@ConorO'Brien Yep, I'm working on golfs for quite a few of them.

@Phoenix Got it.

Destructible Lemon

so, who can see deleted messages again?

MD XF

Will do when I finish linking.

Dennis

@Phoenix No, it is not.

MD XF

@Dennis ? Should I continue marking them as community wiki?

Dennis

1:11 AM

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A: How should Community Wikis be used?

Community wiki is not a rep waiver I've mentioned that from time to time in the past. Community wiki doesn't just mean that you cannot earn rep from a post. Yes, it does have that side effect, but the community wiki option is for posts that can be edited by anyone without worrying about post ow...

Conor O'Brien

@MDXF if you want a challenge, you should try writing a quine in ;#+ :)

MD XF

I've found a competitive solution to a challenge elsewhere on the internet and would like to post it for completeness' sake (giving due credit).

->

That's done on other SE sites all the time, and nobody marks these answers as community wiki, even if they contain little more than a quote from a blog post.

@ConorO'Brien I will when I've finished putting the RosettaCode quines in. I've written 6 or so of my own quines in obscure languages for that, I'd be happy to try in ;#+ :)

Conor O'Brien

:D

MD XF

@Dennis Can you un-mark my already-marked Community Wiki answers, then? Or are they okay?

Ørjan Johansen

From en.wikipedia.org/wiki/… "The GNU Free Documentation License in version 1.2 is not compatible with the widely used Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license" although someone's disputed the reliability of the citation.

MD XF

1:14 AM

@ØrjanJohansen @Phoenix All my answers directly from RosettaCode now contain a link. Thanks for pointing that out for me

Ørjan Johansen

@MDXF Trouble is, that may still be copyright violation.

Dennis

@MDXF You can mark all of them CW if you want to, but you shouldn't feel compelled to. It's up to you if want me to unwiki them.

MD XF

@ØrjanJohansen Really? How so? I'm fully attributing it to their website, and it's open-source on said website.

@Dennis I don't really mind, might as well leave them instead of wasting your time.

Ørjan Johansen

@MDXF See my wikipedia quote above.

MD XF

@ØrjanJohansen "although someone's disputed the reliability of the citation"?

Ørjan Johansen

1:18 AM

@MDXF Well it was the first mention I found.

See also en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

Phoenix

omfg
Every year there's a woodpecker that takes up residence in our chimney and hammers on it for some reason.
It just came back.
I'd forgotten how annoying it is.

Ørjan Johansen

@Phoenix You have my fullest sympathy :(

Phoenix

@Phoenix I am working on figuring out how it works. Once thats done I'll hopefully have an explanation. — Wheat Wizard 46 secs ago

in The Third Stack, Nov 30 '16 at 0:16, by Wheat Wizard

Brain-Flak Syndrome: The act of forgetting what your code does before you've even written it.

Ørjan Johansen

1:33 AM

@MDXF The Miranda quine you deleted only needs to use the same identifier for s and t, assuming it works the same as the identical Haskell quine.

Downgoat

Question: has anyone here taken AP Stats?

Phoenix

@Downgoat Yes

Dennis

People no longer know what an IDE/PATA drive is. I feel old.

Phoenix

@Dennis Were they common? Like, floppy disks were obsolete before I was born, but I still know what they are.

Downgoat

@Phoenix is it hard

Phoenix

1:40 AM

It is not.

Downgoat

I'm planning taking with honors pre-calc

Phoenix

I'd say it's easier than pre-calc.

ASCII-only

@Phoenix Yeah

Phoenix

The first semester of pre-calc may entirely be review, but the first semester of stats is entirely "how to properly set up experiment" and "what is a standard deviation"

ASCII-only

@Phoenix It's like how SATA drives are common nowadays (PCIe for SSDs)

Phoenix

1:41 AM

The second semester of precalc requires actual work and the second semester of stats is "which one of these functions built in to myi TI-84 is applicable here"

Dennis

@Phoenix They were as common as SATA drives are today.

MD XF

@ØrjanJohansen Yeah, I deleted it because it was identical to the Haskell quine.

Dennis

(ninja'd)

Phoenix

@ASCII-only Also SATAe and M.2

Too many standards

ASCII-only

And PCIe NVMe for super fast SSDs why do there have to be so many standards

Phoenix

1:44 AM

I hear it used to be worse

How to get rich: Make a cable that fits every port, like Unicode for hardware.

ASCII-only

@Phoenix That's been done before, e.g. 95-to-1 adapters

MD XF

@Phoenix I'd pay $100 for that.

Phoenix

@ASCII-only That's a thing that exists? Wow.

ASCII-only

idk the exact number but ~~>80~~ nvm the max is 66

Phoenix

I was imagining some kind of conductive puddy you molded onto whatever.

ASCII-only

1:47 AM

i think a lot of them were adapters for different types of cards though

@Pavel amazon.com/Vantec-NexStar-Universal-Storage-Adapter/dp/…

Phoenix

I wonder if it reads NDS cartridges

With that many, it should.

Downgoat

@Phoenix wait what is difference between standard deviation and mean absolute deviation :|

Phoenix

You won't need to know that for AP Stats

Judging by the name they're synonyms though.

Are you in 9th grade this year?

Downgoat

@Phoenix yes

@Phoenix O_o apparently they are same but standard deviation is squared

Phoenix

@Downgoat standard deviation is variance squared

So it would seem mean absolute deviation is another name for variance

Downgoat

1:54 AM

@Phoenix it's a type of variance yeah

Phoenix

The word that will be used on the AP exam is variance

I'm the only 10th grader in AP Stats in my school btw. After the seniors graduate two weeks early, there will be three of us in my class (two juniors).

Downgoat

@Phoenix did you already finish pre-calc?

Phoenix

Yes

Last year

Downgoat

wow. so you are doing AP Calc as sophomore?