The Nineteenth Byte

Riker

9:03 PM

Phoenix

Thanks

Downgoat

Question: is there a term to describe the "root" class in an OO-inheritance hierachy? e.g. name for Java's "Object" class

Riker

not a superclass?

Phoenix

What's the golfiest way of getting everything but the first character of a python string?

Downgoat

@Riker this is why uprightleftgoat has no friends, he keeps showing off

Anonymous

9:06 PM

@Downgoat I've heard "Adam class", but that's not the term usually used. I can't think of the normal name.

Phoenix

(I am python noob)

Anonymous

@Phoenix s[1:]

Phoenix

thanks

Downgoat

idea: "Root class"

Riker

sounds good to me

or base class

Downgoat

9:08 PM

Poll: what should this root/base class be called

Phoenix

codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/121921/make-a-interpreter has no interesting golfing tricks I can do ;-;

The obvious python solution seems to be the shortest

Downgoat

._. people on PPCG half the time as me already have like 1.5x the rep :|

New Main Posts

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Q: Infinite Sequence of Unique Random Integers

Output an infinite sequence of positive integers, such that, for each element in the sequence, all positive integers that have not yet been output have a positive probability of being chosen, and no value is repeated. For example, if the first integer is 3, then 3 may not be output again, but al...

Anonymous

@Downgoat None of the above

Downgoat

@Mego alternative suggesiton?

Anonymous

9:11 PM

@Downgoat Object

Downgoat

D:

Phoenix

^^

Object is good

nooooo

bad

It's Object in Java And C#, why do you need to be unique for no reason?

Downgoat

because VSL is not Java

Riker

@Phoenix for the answer?

it's not shortest

I can think of one nice way to golf right now :p

Downgoat

if java creator said "why be unique for no reason" you'd be using MyClass extends VoidPtr

Phoenix

9:15 PM

Well think of something actually good then.

Downgoat

okay, fine, I'll do objectgoat

Phoenix

;=;

IDK what that emoticon is but I think it's appropriate

Downgoat

@roomOwners: can you move my pings to ascii-only to VSL room?

Anonymous

→ 2 messages moved to VSL

Anonymous

@Downgoat Only because you're my favorite goat

Downgoat

9:18 PM

:D

trichoplax

Beat me to it...

Riker

lol

@Mego is he also the only goat who know who can type complete english sentences?

Downgoat

@Riker s/complete english//

Riker

but can other goats type goat sentences?

Anonymous

@Riker From my experience he can't manage that a lot of the time :P

Adám

9:29 PM

@Downgoat Foundation class.

Anonymous

@Adám That sounds like the next crappy Microsoft framework

Downgoat

@Mego :| it is the name of Apple's crappy framework

Mistah Figgins

are there any 2d languages that don't have a memory separate from the codespace?

Adám

Ah yes, Microsoft Foundation Class Pro 2017.

Mistah Figgins

i.e. the only way to store data is in the code?

Adám

9:32 PM

@Downgoat Root class is good.

Anonymous

@Downgoat Oh that's why

Downgoat

Question: did Wat/Mendeleev get chat banned or something? I haven't seen him around recently

Anonymous

@Adám No, it would be Microsoft Foundation Class Pro 9, with no versions 1-8.

Downgoat

Quesiton: does explanation for how type deductor work make sense: github.com/vsl-lang/VSL/blob/master/src/vsl/resolver/README.md

Adám

@Mego That's the consumer version. I'd settle for nothing less than Microsoft Foundation Class Pro Server 2017.

Phoenix

9:38 PM

@Downgoat Suspended for a week, I think it's been more than a week tho.

Downgoat

oh, he must of done a zyabin then

Phoenix

@Mendeleev is still pingable, having talked 16 days ago.

I thought it didn't let you do that after two weeks

Riker

he might have been in here in the last 2 wks tho

even if he didn't talk

Mistah Figgins

@WheatWizard have you released the challenges for your restricted source challenge yet? If not, that's perfectly fine with me because I haven't yet updated Del|m|t

Wheat Wizard

No I kind of forgot about the challenge since no one answered it

Riker

9:42 PM

RIP

it's a cool challenge, just really hard

@Mego ouch lol

not as bad as geobits's dog

Phoenix

What challenge?

Downgoat

@Riker brb blaming all hoof on doggo

Wheat Wizard

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Q: Unrestricted Languages

One of my favorite types of challenges on this site are restricted-source challenges. These challenges impose a computer tractable restriction that the sources of potential answers must pass. I like these challenges so much I have been working on a golfing language designed to win at these chal...

code-challenge restricted-source language-design

Phoenix

9:59 PM

congrats to es.stackoverflow.com for graduating

rip us

Downgoat

did SEs designers quit or something no site has gotten a design in over a year

Phoenix

SO got a new fancy design

trichoplax

Maybe they are working on them all in parallel, with newly graduating sites being added to the pot at a rate which prevents any of the designs ever reaching completion

Downgoat

fancy new design = new top bar

Riker

it's had it for a while

Phoenix

10:02 PM

@trichoplax Like Zeno's paradox.

Downgoat

@Phoenix which one they are 9

Phoenix

I don't remember which one, but it sounds like one of them.

Downgoat

is it the (1/2)^n one

Phoenix

probably

trichoplax

@Phoenix Exactly, except with a sufficient rate of newly graduating sites this one really would last forever...

Anonymous

10:11 PM

@Downgoat Fancy new design = it looks horrible

Mistah Figgins

^

I don't get why they would make it intentionally different from other SE sites

everything is in a different place

Phoenix

^^, but I like the new SO design.

I wish everyone had it

Anonymous

@MistahFiggins They want the other sites to have it, too

Downgoat

@Phoenix this woudl break so many userscript though

Mistah Figgins

@Mego that I'm ok with

Anonymous

10:13 PM

I haven't used SO at all since the new design rolled out

Phoenix

Is that really because of the design.

Anonymous

@Phoenix It's a big part, yes

Mistah Figgins

It's just annoying that SO and the rest of SE are different

Anonymous

I don't know why SE is trying to be more like Microsoft. That's never a good idea.

Anonymous

Don't fix what ain't broken.

Riker

10:15 PM

Phoenix

@Mego Microsoft makes good things

Like C#

Anonymous

May 9 at 20:12, by Mego

@Riker Could you please tone down the frequency of your image posts? It's getting to the point where they're making up a large portion of your chat contributions.

Downgoat

@Mego I don't think Riker's image posts are too frequent at all but I'm not RO so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Christopher

@Downgoat One month of ban

@Phoenix Nope one month

Also downgoat you are my fave goat :D

Downgoat

@Christopher :D

Christopher

10:29 PM

@Downgoat i woulda been DownChristopher but people had to rain on my parade

@DJMcMayhem how is 1 with a newline a valid quine in golfscript?

Phoenix

It is not

Christopher

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A: Golf you a quine for great good!

GolfScript, 2 bytes 1 (note trailing newline) This pushes the number 1 onto the stack. At the end of the program, GolfScript prints out all items in the stack (with no spaces in between), then prints a newline. This is a true quine (as listed in the question), because it actually executes th...

DJMcMayhem

I don't know. Why are you asking me? xP

Riker

@Christopher it's been there forever and the quine def is hazy af right now

Christopher

@DJMcMayhem <sarcasm> You sounded smart. I guess I was wrong ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ </sarcasm>

@Riker ok

Riker

10:38 PM

@Christopher ouch

Phoenix

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Q: Should we repost a challenge because of a changed consensus?

Golf you a quine for great good! is a great example, since it was posted before the quine consensus was made. That means it's cluttered with answers not following it. Should we repost challenges containing a lot of answers affected by a consensus change?

discussion policy asking-questions

Riker

DJ is very smart :p

Phoenix

"Yes" seems to be winning but we should give it a few days

Downgoat

CMC: VSL Quine: hackmd.io/KwZgnALAJsCmUFoJlgNiQBlAgRsAjAIYIAcJhJUGATMNScIUA===

Christopher

@Riker It was too easy. I was set up

Riker

10:39 PM

doesn't really matter >_>

Phoenix

@Downgoat that hackmd is outdated af though

Downgoat

:P close enough

Christopher

@Riker Added my sarcasm tags

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ @Downgoat the shrug dude is broke

Wait what. _

Phoenix

Why did you ping the goat

DJMcMayhem

@Christopher o_O well that was uncalled for

Christopher

10:52 PM

@DJMcMayhem Sorry. I was being sarcastic :P

DJMcMayhem

Not really

Christopher

I would remove it but I can't

@Phoenix I found a bug. But it is odd

_ chat bug is shown

If you do backslash and an underscore the backslash goes invisible

Phoenix

_

No

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