The Nineteenth Byte

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Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

it's not as bad as the rock trap that kills you then your pet 2 turns in a row

redstarcoder

10:34 PM

I'm horrible at nethack don't feel bad

Destructible Watermelon

You die...--More--

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

in the same room as the upstair

redstarcoder

It took me 2 hours to get into the game

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@redstarcoder lol everybody is but the knob and lynn

Destructible Watermelon

the worst part is that I started this game like two days ago

Gabriel Benamy

10:34 PM

anyway thank you martin you just saved me 8 bytes on a challenge that hasn't been posted yet

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

rn my monk is paused at sokoban, just finished it

@GabrielBenamy o_O lol

redstarcoder

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ makes me feel a little better haha

Destructible Watermelon

I've gotten down to the mines a couple times

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

Q is pretty good, I generally ask him for help

@DestructibleWatermelon protip: ignore them. doubtful you'll make it to minetown if you try to go down them

Destructible Watermelon

...?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

10:35 PM

the mines

Martin Ender

@GabrielBenamy send me a link when you post the answer :)

Destructible Watermelon

how else do I go down a level

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

there are 2 downstairs on the level where you enter the mines

Gabriel Benamy

@MartinEnder Wait, does your regex match both characters, or just the first?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

1 is to the mines, 1 is continueing in the main dungeon

Destructible Watermelon

10:36 PM

oh

oh that makes more sense

Martin Ender

@GabrielBenamy just the first. "of course you'll need a . at the end if you want to include it in the match"

Gabriel Benamy

or can I just drop the lookahead part?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@MartinEnder unfreeze?

Destructible Watermelon

some games of nethack I've played

  1        894  DanielSpre-Wiz-Gno-Fem-Neu died in The Gnomish Mines
                on level 4.  Killed by a fox, while fainted from lack
                of food.                                                -  [26]

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DestructibleWatermelon ^ jion me there

Martin Ender

10:37 PM

@GabrielBenamy oh sure, if you don't care about (?i) being active afterwards

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DestructibleWatermelon ah, you're going gnomish healer?

Martin Ender

(.)(?!\1)(?i)\1

Gabriel Benamy

nah, I don't use /g being set

Destructible Watermelon

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I have not

Gabriel Benamy

cuz it's stuck inside a { .. && redo}

Destructible Watermelon

10:37 PM

 13         21  DanielSpre-Rog-Orc-Fem-Cha escaped the dungeon
                [max level 1].                                         11  [11]

the soul survivor

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DestructibleWatermelon wait random?

@DestructibleWatermelon >_<

Gabriel Benamy

ok, 12 characters now

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DestructibleWatermelon generally gnomish female healer is used for pacifist conduct, i.e. kill nobody the whole game

Gabriel Benamy

I'll send you a link when I do post it :P

Destructible Watermelon

  2        552  DanielSpre-Sam-Hum-Mal-Law died in The Dungeons of
                Doom on level 3 [max 4].  Killed by a wand, while
                helpless, while fainted from lack of food.              -  [30]

I don't know how I got killed by a wand

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

10:39 PM

monster zapped you

join me in the nethack room?

Dada

@MartinEnder you don't have \pL with .NET ?

(or is it just you didn't thought about it at first?)

Martin Ender

I don't think so, but I'm not very familiar with the Unicode classes

and if it does have it, then it'll probably match non-ASCII letters, so I usually avoid them unless I know I'm dealing with Unicode input

actually, .NET does have it, but I think you'd need \p{L}

redstarcoder

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ where?

Martin Ender

might keep that in mind for golfing though when there's guaranteed to be only ASCII input.

Dada

Indeed, I didn't thought of it but there might be some troubles with non-ASCII letters... (I'm not very familiar with unicode clases either, but the \pL is often useful :) )

Acutally in Perl you need the braces \p{L} for classes that have more than one letter in their name, \p{Ll} for instance (which matches lowercase letters)

and when there is only one character, you can omit then

Martin Ender

10:44 PM

System.ArgumentException: parsing "\pL" - Incomplete \p{X} character escape.

Dada

Sad...

Martin Ender

this must be the first time I've saved 5 bytes in a code golf by turning my answer into a named function with a 9-byte-long name.

trichoplax

@PhiNotPi saw this and thought of you:

I'm sorry. Phi is one h of a lot cooler than pi — not store bought dirt 6 hours ago

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Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

btw @flawr think I get row-echelon form now, attempting to write a julia program to convert a matrix to that for practice

Dada

I was looking for an answer of Ton Hospel to nominate for the "Rookie of the year (answer)" (as he is probably (by far?) the best Perl golfer of PPCG), anyone has an idea of which of each answer that should be? this one maybe?

Anthony Pham

10:50 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Well, I just read Jon Skeet's article on choosing usernames and based on his tips and my very own opinion, I decided to use my actual name

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ah, okay

flawr

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ great, then you'll know whether you really understood it:)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

yep!

@Dada he was the original golfer

flawr

@AnthonyPham which article?

Dada

Didn't know there were an "original golfer" :o (I knew he had been golfing since before I even had a computer though).
But he only joined PPCG this year (if I'm not mistaken

DJMcMayhem

11:02 PM

@Dada yup. "Member for 10 months"

LegionMammal978

Scheduled restart

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Dada he's been a golfer on other forums, particularly perlmonks for a long time

> tfw you look at somebody's html, and it's completely unindented

> and apparently he was taught not to indent, just use line breaks

Dada

That I was aware of. I've seen some perlmonks post quoting golfings he wrote in 2003 I think ^^

Mitch Schwartz

Good golfing today, everyone. Keep up the good work

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Luis Mendo

11:22 PM

@Lynn Out of curiosity, where did you get the idea for the OVSF challenge? I work in mobile communications, and I use those codes a lot

PhiNotPi

@trichoplax I rate 21/13

trichoplax

:)

PhiNotPi

Speaking of which, I was recently wondering if the golden ratio would be useful in microwave design.

Because I noticed that microwaves heat food in an uneven pattern, created by a combination of interference patterns and the movement/rotation of the parts.

Interesting visual demonstration here: evilmadscientist.com/2011/…

trichoplax

11:37 PM

Using golden rectangles for the base and sides to minimise the overlap of reflected waves?

PhiNotPi

Also, if I were to make a radial pattern (flower/rose shape) the golden ratio provides a really nice way of spacing the "petals."

trichoplax

Last time I bought a microwave it was reviewed as having unusually even heating. I suspect this is mostly because it doesn't appear to vent any of the steam produced during cooking, approximating a low pressure steamer

PhiNotPi

Imagine a bicycle wheel with spokes, with each consecutive spoke placed phi*pi radians away from the previous spoke. The use of the number phi allows the spokes to be somewhat evenly spaced, no matter their number.

Because phi is "the most irrational number" (consistently one of the worst rational approximations for any given denominator).

trichoplax

Vi Hart has a great video or 3 about this

PhiNotPi

There's probably a ton of videos on this.

trichoplax

11:49 PM

Doodling in Math: Spirals, Fibonacci, and Being a Plant [1 of 3]

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Conor O'Brien

@flawr you know haskell, correct?

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