The Nineteenth Byte

ColdGolf

8:00 PM

@MartinEnder M&M's actually stands for "Mars & Murrie's," the last names of the candy's founders.

Martin Ender

okay?

trichoplax

@DJMcMayhem What? Where?

Geobits

@flawr I live in Florida and drink coffee all the time, so I'm not sure that's it.

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@flawr i live in a hot climate. i love hot drinks and soup.

TimmyD

@flawr Minnesota, so it's only hot for 3 months of the year.

ColdGolf

8:00 PM

@MartinEnder While many believe Hydrox cookies are an Oreo knock-off, Hydrox actually came first—in 1908, four years before the Oreo.

Geobits

Please stop the random spam facts.

flawr

@Geobits Well I usually just drink hot beverages during (snowy icy)winter.

trichoplax

@flawr I grew up in the rain and never drink anything hot

Business Cat

I am a weird person, when I go inside on a cold winter day, I have a cold drink.

ColdGolf

@Geobits int get RandomNumber

{

return 4;

flawr

8:02 PM

@trichoplax No hot pepsi??? o_O

Mast

@Phrancis It's a very common thing around here.

Martin Ender

is it prove-flawr-wrong-with-anecdotes-day?

trichoplax

@flawr Nothing caffeinated either...

Geobits

I'm sure glad chat bans are a thing.

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Business Cat

Anecdotal evidence is the best evidence

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

8:02 PM

I scrolled up.

Phrancis

@Mast Here too, I just don't think it's very good

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

WTF was with the remove fest.

hey @Phrancis

Phrancis

hai

flawr

@BusinessCat I once thought that too, but my boss was not convinced. So I'm not relying on that anymore.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@flawr pls halp im stuck in r/hmmm

flawr

8:04 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ You might want to switch to reddit.com/r/awwschwitz

El'endia Starman

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I was tempted to trash all those removed messages, but then the remaining messages wouldn't make any sense.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

ye

DJMcMayhem

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Someone quoted the "gorilla warfare" meme, it got flagged, the mods swarmed in, he didn't think it was inappropriate, stuff git trashed

TimmyD

@BusinessCat The plural of anecdote isn't "data", unless you're studying social sciences.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@DJMcMayhem oic thanks

@Mast is a mod?

trichoplax

8:05 PM

@TimmyD Is that where they use anecdata?

DJMcMayhem

Uh, I'm not sure

ArtOfCode

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ nope

DJMcMayhem

I wish you could see on mobile

ColdGolf

Java or Javascript? (strawpoll.me/11055518)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@ArtOfCode i didn't think so

@ColdGolf lel

Mast

8:06 PM

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Why does everyone think that?

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

because "the mods swarmed in"

@Mast but you would make a good mod, if it helps

flawr

Aug 10 at 22:22, by flawr

Please include the title of the poll when posting a link.

DJMcMayhem

@Mast I thought you deleted the posts cause you came in and said they were gone

And cause I can't tell on mobile

Mast

I'm a 10k+ user on chat.

Nathan Merrill

@MartinEnder the line between "fewest tokens" and "fewest bytes" can be hard to define. For example, is my compounding english challenge fewest tokens or bytes?

Phrancis

8:07 PM

@DJMcMayhem Mobile chat is the pits

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@ColdGolf 4/4 JavaScript so far

Mast

So I see and validate/invalidate flags.

Just spam/offensive flags though, not moderator flags. I'm not a moderator.

DJMcMayhem

@Mast Oic.

Mast

Just like half the people in this room, currently.

ColdGolf

Rep or stars? (strawpoll.me/11055544)

DJMcMayhem

8:08 PM

@Phrancis yeah, it's true. It's better than missing the drama in here though

Mast

The other half actually is a mod :P

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill yeah that's a bit tricky, admittedly

El'endia Starman

@Mast Well, there's actually at least four mods in here, chatting and/or watching.

ColdGolf

1 vote for Java. Who are you?

Releasing Helium Nuclei

@ColdGolf 4/4 diamond so far

ColdGolf

8:09 PM

@ReleasingHeliumNuclei Haha

DJMcMayhem

@Mast well, now that you're in here, welcome to our room! When we're not flagging spam memes, we're overstarring things and arguing about how words are pronounced, so you came in at the right time!

Downgoat

@Geobits did I miss something?

Nathan Merrill

@MartinEnder also, you didn't address single number output Does it even belong?

Geobits

@Downgoat Nothing worth mentioning.

Mast

@DJMcMayhem Overstarring things, now that's something I'm familiar with. I usually hang out in The 2nd Monitor.

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DJMcMayhem

8:11 PM

@Mast haha

2

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill I wouldn't mind if that remains a code challenge, but I think smallest output is fine

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Gimme dem startz 4 no raeson

Nathan Merrill

so, what are the benefits of differentiating between bytes and tokens?

also, I really like the name fewest-tokens

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill that answers scoring by bytes get their own tag, I guess?

Downgoat

@ColdGolf JavaScript is best script

Nathan Merrill

8:14 PM

@MartinEnder is there a difference in the types of challenges that would score by bytes vs tokens (that I may want to search by)?

Downgoat

@Geobits oh so this is what happened?

Nathan Merrill

or is that purely for easy understanding

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat removefest + flags

Nathan Merrill

so when I read fewest-bytes I immediately know how the scoring works

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill one is plain data compression to whatever format you like... the other is likely more contraint in that you're asked to represent something in as few tokens/entities with given semantics as possible

ColdGolf

8:15 PM

Favorite esolang? (strawpoll.me/11055601)

TimmyD

@NathanMerrill A fantasy novel with only one author -- fewest-tolkiens

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Releasing Helium Nuclei

@NathanMerrill public class p{public static void Main(String[] args){ ... }}

TimmyD

@NathanMerrill Visualize bit weaving, possibly.

Nathan Merrill

so many replies oO

@MartinEnder oooh, so [fewest-bytes] is basically a compression challenge. If its about produing the minimal steps or the minimum of anything, its basically a fewest-tokens

Releasing Helium Nuclei

> 1 votes

ColdGolf

8:18 PM

@NathanMerrill fewest-tags

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Strawpoll ❤

Martin Ender

I guess? But [fewest-bytes] could also be "the shortest output that is longer than your program"

(hypothetically)

i.e. in principle it doesn't have to be limited to compressing some input data in a recoverable form

Mast

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Q: You have no respect for logic

Inspired by Hosch250, TopinFrassi, Legato and the recent milestone of having our 100th fizzbuzz question on Code Review I decided to add an ArnoldC FizzBuzz to the collection. I haven't found any best practices about the language, but I assume the code needs to be VERBOSE. For those unfamiliar w...

Definitely not suitable for golfing.

Nathan Merrill

ok.

Releasing Helium Nuclei

Why the sudden silence

Mast

8:21 PM

Everyone is having pizza.

Nathan Merrill

so, I'm mostly interested in retagging the fewest-tokens challenges, and considering there are drastically more of those than fewest-bytes, I'm going to avoid the latter

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@Downgoat

Nathan Merrill

I'm still not totally sold on fewest-tokens, for example, on my word search problem

Mast

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Pyro.JS?

Nathan Merrill

the scoring is basically the number of "locations" used

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

8:24 PM

@Mast nice name

it's because downgoat is phlog pyro

and js addict

ColdGolf

@NathanMerrill fewest-tags-for-tags-which-have-the-word-fewest-in-them

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill I haven't kept up. Is fewest-tokens about output still?

Or steps in the algorithm?

Nathan Merrill

yeah, still talking about smallest-output

and theoretically different names/scopes

oooh, maybe fewest-atoms

Leaky Nun

From PEP 8 -- Style Guide for Python Code:

> Limit all lines to a maximum of 79 characters.

:o

Nathan Merrill

we use atomic-golf, so it fits well with that definition

TimmyD

8:27 PM

@Mast I love that there's a code review of ArnoldC

FryAmTheEggman

^ There are quite a few LOLCODE ones if I'm not mistaken (it may even have a tag?)

Yep

Nathan Merrill

hmmm...and the opposite would be most-atoms?

I don't like "most" very much

DJMcMayhem

Anyone have thoughts on this:

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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

What base is this number in? code-golf math base-conversion Here's a seemingly trivial challenge that is more challenging than it first seems: Given a string that represents a number in an unknown base, determine the lowest possible base that number might be in. The string will only conta...

Nathan Merrill

actually, I could do atomic-output, and the OP defines whether or not "fewest" or "most" wins

@trichoplax @MartinEnder ^ what do you think?

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill How would you define it in the wiki?

TimmyD

8:35 PM

"atomic output" ... Beta Decay automatically wins

FryAmTheEggman

@DJMcMayhem Feels like you sort it, find index in 0123456789abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz then add one? Not sure it's very interesting...?

trichoplax

@DJMcMayhem I recommend appending "inclusive" after 0 to 36

FryAmTheEggman

Er, find the index of the maximum :P

trichoplax

(I don't mean you must include 0 in your challenge, I just mean say "inclusive" for whatever range you settle on, so it is unambiguous.)

Doorknob

@DJMcMayhem Maybe allow taking input as uppercase as well? Not sure if that'd make any solutions shorter, but it couldn't hurt.

Nathan Merrill

8:39 PM

@trichoplax "Answers are scored based on the number of 'atoms' in your code's output. Questions posted with this tag should indicate what an 'atom' is, and whether you want the maximum or minimum number of atoms"

Leaky Nun

@DJMcMayhem shouldn't unary be all 1?

Nathan Merrill

maximal/minimal*

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill hm, I'm not really a huge fan of that

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

I'm back

DJMcMayhem

@LeakyNun no, cause it it has ones, it could be in binary

βετѧ Λєҫαγ

8:40 PM

Chat seems normal again

trichoplax

Give it time...

DJMcMayhem

@βετѧΛєҫαγ well, as normal as usual

Which is not at all

Mast

@FryAmTheEggman Yup, there's quite some of those.

Nathan Merrill

also, I thought of output-golf and output-bowling, but again, that's unclear whether or not we are scoring by bytes or atoms

Mast

We aren't as boring as you all think.

We jus like to keep our code readable.

Including Brainfuck.

trichoplax

8:42 PM

@NathanMerrill I understand the meaning from this, but I'm not sure how useful it is as a tag.

FryAmTheEggman

There is (at least) one Pyth question, too right?

Oh, yep there's exactly one with the tag anyway: codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/pyth

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill I'm trying to think of a word that sums it up rather than using "atom", which is already used for atomic golf. It seems that these challenges would be something like "output optimisation" or "search space exploring" but I feel like I'm missing a much better word

Nathan Merrill

@trichoplax well, for the purposes of searching, its quite useful. Minimization/maximization problems are quite similar, and appeal to similar people. For a challenge-parsing purpose, its less useful as it effectively has two params that the OP has to define

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill I definitely agree that putting minimisation and maximisation together makes sense

DJMcMayhem

@FryAmTheEggman and it's leaky nun. Haha, of course

Nathan Merrill

8:47 PM

maybe a output-optimization as a theme tag, and a smallest-output as a scoring tag?

that way, scoring is pretty much always clear when you read it

trichoplax

I think perhaps "output" is the problem here

Is there a better word for it that doesn't sound like text?

Nathan Merrill

I don't think so. We have "output" pretty well defined, and that's exactly what we are trying to score/optimize here

Mast

@FryAmTheEggman 53 Brainfuck questions, 1 Pyth question, 6 lolcode questions, probably plenty of other esolang as well.

Nathan Merrill

outputting an array in many challenges doesn't mean printing text. I could simply return an array from my function

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill Good point. I may be overthinking and going round in circles...

@NathanMerrill If we go with the scoring tag, does that make the other redundant?

feersum

8:50 PM

Remember that there are two parts to weird bureaucracy: bureaucracy and weird.

New Main Posts

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Q: Figure Out the Android Lock Pattern

Lets say you saw your friend enter his or her password into their Android phone. You don't remember how they made the pattern but you remember what the pattern looks like. Being the concerned friend that you are you want to know how secure their password is. Your job is to calculate all the wa...

code-golf

Nathan Merrill

I was proposing both. smallest-output is basically my original proposal. It scores both in bytes/atoms (by default bytes). output-optimization is basically a theme tag that applies to minimization and maximization challenges. The have overlap, but they also include challenges that aren't in the other

TimmyD

@NewMainPosts I swear we had something similar to this, didn't we?

Nathan Merrill

for example, a compression challenge would be smallest-output but not output-optimization

oh, there's an optimization tag

its way broad: "for challenges involving optimizing a certain thing."

quartata

OK, 2 hours later the memory usage increased from 10.2% to 10.3% so it must be doing something

This might take multiple days......

Laikoni

8:56 PM

@quartata Might be a memory leak ...

TimmyD

@quartata If it takes two hours for a malloc to process, you might have bigger underlying problems. ;-)

quartata

No, it's supposed to be slow

But I have no progress bar so I have no idea how far in the transcript it is or how deep the tree has gone

Nathan Merrill

oooh, "do X with as few malloc calls as possible"

quartata

@Geobits Inclined to agree

feersum

my_bytes = malloc(1 << 30);

TimmyD

8:59 PM

Well, after it's run the first time, you'll know what the maximum memory usage is. Then, when you run it again, you'll have a pseudo progress bar based on current usage over time.

Laikoni

@quartata is slowest-code a thing?

quartata

I'm hoping not to run it more than once

@Laikoni busy-beaver is close (more general)

trichoplax

@quartata Always make a progress bar (even if it's wildly misleading)

quartata

Although I'll admit I'm tempted to throw in the 2nd Monitor's transcript

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill I'm struggling to see the distinction. Wouldn't compression count as a kind of output optimisation?

Nathan Merrill

9:01 PM

its not a minimization problem

trichoplax

I'm missing something then

Nathan Merrill

but the tag is confusing, which is why I like optimization

because the act of minimization or maximization is independent of how its scored

trichoplax

Would this be output optimisation?

Nathan Merrill

yes

trichoplax

In a way golf and fastest code are types of optimisation too...

In fact, if there isn't something to optimise, there wouldn't be a winning criterion...

@NathanMerrill And smallest-output too?

Nathan Merrill

9:04 PM

yes

trichoplax

I guess I see compression as the same kind of thing - the shortest string that leads you to the required original text

Nathan Merrill

yeah, we're splitting hairs I think

trichoplax

Ah - output optimisation could be optimising some aspect of the output other than its size, so then it wouldn't be smallest output

Nathan Merrill

I don't see what the distinction between output-optimization and optimization is

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill Seems like a subset

Optimisation could have a fixed output

Nathan Merrill

9:13 PM

how so?

trichoplax

Produce this fixed output in the fewest seconds/bytes of memory/loops/bytes of source code

Depends how broad a definition you give "optimisation", which I guess can be defined in the wiki.

Nathan Merrill

yeah, but if you look at the questions optimization covers, all (or nearly all) are output-optimization

trichoplax

Since it's a tag I guess I should be writing "optimization" rather than "optimisation" - it takes a conscious effort to remember...

@NathanMerrill I guess time and bytes of source are covered by existing tags, so the only thing other than output that would be tagged as optimization would be memory optimization

Nathan Merrill

yeah. I think I've seen a memory optimization challenge

trichoplax

We've had those but I don't think they used a specific tag - I'll have a look

Nathan Merrill

9:17 PM

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Q: Restricted memory optimization

The edit (or Levenshtein) distance between two strings is the minimal number of single character insertions, deletions and substitutions needed to transform one string into the other. If the two strings have length n each, it is well known that this can be done in O(n^2) time by dynamic programmi...

code-challenge string optimization

its not scoring by the amount of memory you use, but it does have a memory restriction placed

trichoplax

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Q: Domino Circuits

Scoreboard Here are the raw scores (i.e. domino counts) for VisualMelon's submission. I'll turn these into the normalised scores described below, when more answers come in. The existing solution can now solve all circuits in the benchmark: Author Circuit: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ...

code-challenge optimization logic-gates

This similarly

Nathan Merrill

ooh, found an old one that would probably be closed:

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Q: Project Euler Problem 12: optimize memory usage

I am referring to Project Euler #12. Write the solution in any language you want, but consume the least amount of memory while executing. Running time is not measure in this case. The sequence of triangle numbers is generated by adding the natural numbers. So the 7th triangle number wo...

code-challenge

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@quartata any particular reason why the phlog is bad?

quartata

No airblast

trichoplax

@NathanMerrill Hmm. That does demonstrate the difficulty of judging a memory optimization challenge

Nathan Merrill

9:22 PM

I think the array solution is rather clever

aka, the only variable a solution can use is a single array of fixed-sized integers

and you judge them based on the size of the array

quartata

In other words a finite tape

trichoplax

yes I like that :)

quartata

Might as well make a toy language for the challenge

That'll simplify any language quirks

Then again I have no idea what the challenge is so

Nathan Merrill

we're not making one, talking about tags :)

quartata

Oh, ha, OK.

mınxomaτ

9:25 PM

I should make the podcast time table a challenge. "Find a 3h timeslot where as many people as possible are available" :D

ThreeFx

isn't that trivial by intersecting with each other by brute force?

Nathan Merrill

unless you make it a optimization problem :P

ThreeFx

ok seriously, why is my avatar different in chat than on site despite I never changed anything

quartata

It could be turned into an instance of graph k-coloring

Nathan Merrill

@ThreeFx stackexchange.com/users/3637288/threefx

ThreeFx

9:27 PM

Do you see a purple one?

quartata

Weird. when I click on you the pop-up is a red one

mınxomaτ

No, a red

quartata

I think you need a chat refresh perhaps

Nathan Merrill

@ThreeFx clicking on your avatar is red, but the link I posted is purple

ThreeFx

Shift-F5 ot CTRL-F5 doesn't do anything

quartata

9:28 PM

@trichoplax

@ThreeFx No, different kind of refresh

trichoplax

Hi

quartata

Only a mod can do it

ThreeFx

Ah ok

quartata

Oh, nevermind.

trichoplax

I already tried - still looks red here and on the chat profile

quartata

9:28 PM

It's because your SO profile has the purple one

Change your parent profile

Although I think the only place where it's red is your network profile

trichoplax

It's red on the SO profile for me

ThreeFx, Germany

4.4k 1 5 30

haskell c# java list c algorithm .net

quartata

Nope, not for me

ThreeFx

Not for me

trichoplax

(purple in the onebox but click on it and the page has red but a purple one in the flair)

quartata

Yeah, it's purple when you click it

ThreeFx

9:31 PM

quartata

What the actual heck

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

^

quartata

I think this is legitimately one of the few times we can blame caching

DJMcMayhem

Huh. Interesting. I have a stack overflow error that has absolutely nothing to do with recursion.

mınxomaτ

ThreeFx

9:31 PM

@DJMcMayhem r/nocontext

trichoplax

@ThreeFx Welcome to TNB ;)

ThreeFx

One of us, one of us...

trichoplax

For me it shows red on all profiles except purple on the network profile

mınxomaτ

http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3cd8d19756aa9bc73d8045ae988ae728?s=16&d=identico‌n&r=PG

is red

https://www.gravatar.com/avatar/3cd8d19756aa9bc73d8045ae988ae728?s=128&d=identi‌con&r=PG&f=1

is not

quartata

@trichoplax Exact opposite for me

mınxomaτ

9:33 PM

The f=1 parameter changes it.

quartata

Actually, it's purple on the network profile now

trichoplax

Maybe we should wait 24 hours...

ThreeFx

Let's do so

How do you concatenate a list of tuples to a single list? Easy: foldr uncurry((.(:)).(.).(:)) []

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

9:48 PM

which lang?

ThreeFx

Haskell, something of type [(a,a)]->[a]

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

idk haskell, sorry

ThreeFx

I feel like it should be easier, 'cause it's a builtin in most golfing languages

Nathan Merrill

I think the term is flatten?

Martin Ender

@ThreeFx this reminds me of a Mathematica snippet I discovered today, which blows up an array x of arbitrary dimensions and depth by a factor of 2: #&[##&[#,#]&//@x] I think it's both beautiful and severely messed up :D

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

9:51 PM

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Q: Is there a function to flatten a nested list of elements?

How can I flatten a nested list like this: [1, 2, 3, 4] == flatten [[[1,2],[3]],[[4]]]

list haskell

ThreeFx

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Thing is, I have tuples and not lists.

@MartinEnder I don't know Mathematica enough to completely understand it, but what the hell :D (Side note, It's sad such things don't work in Haskell)

feersum

I don't think I ever got to use //@ in golf.

Martin Ender

@feersum you look different

feersum

Eh?

ThreeFx

Does he have a different avatar?

feersum

9:54 PM

Maybe @Martin sees different.

Martin Ender

I've definitely used it in a golf just recently (not sure if it was my own or whether I helped someone else), but it was something where I used it to replace recursion

mınxomaτ

haha

Well, it probably caches the image for each size.

quartata

I'm still seeing Three as purple

Martin Ender

feersum's blue for me

quartata

What?

ThreeFx

9:57 PM

What the hell is going on with the caches atm D:

quartata

I think identicons are just broken today

Martin Ender

@feersum codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/82961/8478

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Q: C# Visual Studio Question

Say i have a program where a user is presented with a treeview of multiple directories and must check desired file/directories that they would like to later be copied..... That aside once the user has selected the files how can i go about creating a separate executable after a button is clicked t...

c#

mınxomaτ

Gravatar probably switched to Redis and it broke everything.

> PLEASE HELP ME423912

Martin Ender

@ThreeFx //@ is "MapAll" it applies a function to all levels of an expression tree (unfortunately including the top level). ##&[#,#] is kinda weird but it repeats an element without actually wrapping it in a new list or pair or anything. but then at the end you have the problem that this is also applied to your input and you only want the first copy of it, which is what the outer #&[...] is for.

ThreeFx

10:00 PM

Actually that makes sense

Isn't there a Mathematica student edition or so?

Martin Ender

there is, but I think it still costs money and doesn't include free updates

ThreeFx

Well isn't that something...

Martin Ender

I think it's still cheaper to get a Raspberry Pi...

feersum

Of course.

Martin Ender

luckily, it appears that my university's (free and auto-upgrading) student licence appears to be extending itself indefinitely, even though I graduated last year. Mathematica 11 was released last week and with that my licence got extended until October 2017...

Laikoni

10:03 PM

@ThreeFx There are parentheses missing, right?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

v @MartinEnder can you help me with a scoreboard for one of my challenges?

Nathan Merrill

I need to work for a company that uses Mathematica

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

Is the liscencing for mathematica independent of having a pro liscence?

Martin Ender

@NathanMerrill try Wolfram Industries

ThreeFx

@Laikoni Yep, just wrap the uncurry(..) part in parentheses

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

10:05 PM

@NewMainPosts that username though :D

"PLEASEHELPME432192"

Martin Ender

@RohanJhunjhunwala I'm going to bed now, but I'm sure there are some people around who have used it before or know enough JS/HTML/CSS to help you out. :)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@MartinEnder you did a PHD in math, correct?

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@MartinEnder ok, I'll ask around

:)

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

talk to the goat

Martin Ender

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ I did an MSci in theoretical physics and I'm currently doing a PhD in computer graphics/visualisation.

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

10:07 PM

oh, that must have been xnor then

somebody did a PHD in math other than dennis

Martin Ender

Zgarb did

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

@MartinEnder nice though

@MartinEnder okay, i knew somebody did

ThreeFx

That references tho

quartata

Yeah, I do wonder if anyone uses Mathematica in production

Rohan Jhunjhunwala

@Downgoat Hey, I was wondering if you could help me out. For my recent challenge, It would be incredibly helpful to have an automated Javascript leaderboard. Do you think you could help me modify the standard stack snipped leaderboard to work with this question (codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/90593/…)

DJMcMayhem

10:08 PM

So many PHDs around, it makes me feel underqaulified for the site. :D

quartata

It's extremely expensive obviously for a commercial license

But some of the functions could be incredibly useful

ThreeFx

@DJMcMayhem Yeah, as one of the select few vi masters ;)

DJMcMayhem

@ThreeFx actually, I can't stand vi. Vim is so much better

But thank you! :)

ThreeFx

Oops, missed a letter there

Wasn't the devil something with 6's?

quartata

I've literally started scanning Python using scanmem just to find out how far along this thing is

If I'm correct it appears to be not very

El'endia Starman

10:16 PM

@ThreeFx Technically, 666 is the number of the Beast, which is not Satan, the devil.

trichoplax

I heard a rumour it is the number of a man, possibly the Emperor Nero?

Greek names are also numbers in the old system

quartata

I think the answer is not very

since I can find Welcome to chat for: Code Golf

but not does anybody have a shorter way joining spaces to an array in ruby, apart from the usual *' ' (message 3 months later)

El'endia Starman

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Q: When was the number of the beast, 666, first identified as referring to Emperor Nero?

The belief that the number of the beast in Revelation, 666, refers to Nero is a common theory now. When was this identification first suggested?

church-history revelation symbolism origin 666

quartata

so I don't feel too bad about control-cing this

It definitely was working, but far far far slower than it should be.

I think it's the replies

I'm iterating through the entire transcript each time

xnor

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ not me

quartata

10:18 PM

I should stop after a certain date range no matter what

El'endia Starman

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A: Why is the number 666 considered evil?

It is the number of the Beast in Revelation: Revelation 13:18 (ESV) 18 This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666. Its significance is often claimed to be that the Emperor Nero, duri...

trichoplax

I also heard there was a suspicion the original number was 616

ThreeFx

@trichoplax See the first question.

Martin Ender

@trichoplax if you make the next one just a little more absurd, this conversation could be an xkcd

ThreeFx

@MartinEnder Sleep is overrated, eh? :D

Martin Ender

10:20 PM

I said I'm going to bed (which I have...)

trichoplax

Amusingly, Jesus is 888, which was the old teletext page for translation

quartata

Nailed it.

trichoplax

(Funny because it's true...)

quartata

All right, I added a ten-day limit for searching for replies and a crude progress bar

This should be much better

@Downgoat When you have a chance bring Chatgoat into beep boop

This should make for a fairly entertaining bot conversation

@El'endiaStarman You're getting pretty close to overtaking your C.SE rep

Doorknob

10:42 PM

Hmm. My stat teacher put four assignments on the website and set their due date to yesterday. School doesn't start until tomorrow. Now they're all listed as overdue.

DJMcMayhem

@Doorknob for some reason, I read "star teacher"

ThreeFx

Admit it, you're just lazy (Kappa)

DJMcMayhem

@El'endiaStarman I've been wondering for a while, what's the difference between Christianity.se and biblical hermeneutics? To an outsider, they seem like the same thing

quartata

@Doorknob He needs it yesterday

Whoa, this time making the tree finished in 10 minutes

I think it worked

Yeah, definitely works. Woot.

flawr

quartata

10:54 PM

Nice.

flawr

^ my outdoors.SE score.

mınxomaτ

Nice

TIL the width of GitHub markdown documents is 888 pixels.

feersum

Does anyone know a browser extension that can warn you when the site you're on has a satanic element size?

mınxomaτ

Probably Hellblocker Plus or something

quartata

Yeah, Hellmouth Detector++ works nice for that

ThreeFx

10:57 PM

Well, you COULD write one yourself. But you know, that's work..

feersum

Javascript is satanic though so it can't use JS.

3

quartata

Currently uses Dart I think.

mınxomaτ

Though I hear they now take souls as payment to show you hell even if you've blocked it.

flawr

@El'endiaStarman Speaking of the beast number: totient(666) = 6 * 6 * 6

oh and 2^2+3^2+5^2+7^2+11^2+13^2+17^2 = 666 = 1^6-2^6+3^6

and 1000000000000066600000000000001 is prime

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