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5:00 PM
Do you guys know any good less known Linux compatible Steam games?
 
You
I never knew Linux could run on water vapor.
 
@betseg Destination Sol is a good game
 
@You the Website of Steam, steampowered.com is powered bu Steam engines.
 
@zyabin101 Got proof?
 
You
@betseg Ah.
 
5:04 PM
@TùxCräftîñg 47% liked...I dunno
 
You
There's a whole section on the Steam website called "For You", dedicated just for me!!!


I'm so special. :P
 
@You link?
@betseg the global evaluations are positive
 
You
"For You"

ALL FOR ME.
 
@El'endiaStarman In the Cheddar room, in the times of ArtOfCode...
in Cheddar, May 23 at 15:38, by ArtOfCode
@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ Have fun with that - mods can't be kicked or suspended :P
 
@betseg the only problems are the controls
 
5:06 PM
@zyabin101 That's chat.
 
SE employees are essentially mods, but with the highest privileges on SE.
So this also applies to SE employees.
 
@zyabin101 Yes, but that doesn't guarantee they can't be suspended on SE sites.
Site suspension != chat suspension.
 
You
Why does one do this?
 
@You Because one has big, clumsy hooves.
 
You
@El'endiaStarman I wanted to say that he's all thumbs, but he's all hooves.
 
5:08 PM
Well, to be sure, I have to find out on Meta Stack Exchange.
 
@zyabin101 Alternatively, become a mod and try it yourself.
 
You
When's the election for this site?
 
@You Last year.
 
You
What about the next one?
 
We probably won't have another election for a while since our four mods are plenty enough to do the job well.
 
You
5:11 PM
So elections are whenever mods need replacing?
 
@El'endiaStarman Every SE site would have to have yearly elections.
 
@El'endiaStarman I thought that they were regular (not on a need basis)
 
You
BUT I WANT MY BADGE!!! :(
Then again, what good is a badge? :P
 
@zyabin101 C.SE has had two elections in three or four years.
@NathanMerrill Most sites have them roughly yearly, but it's not set in stone.
 
5:13 PM
@TùxCräftîñg he knows >_>
 
For instance, C.SE has three mods that are doing 99% of the work, out of five mods altogether. But really, we now have a community of reviewers that do like 80-90% of the total moderation work. So it's fairly easy right now (which is awesome).
 
@TùxCräftîñg he can always overwrite it because dr ham jam's V is best V
 
@TùxCräftîñg ;_; Y u do dis?
 
5:14 PM
i do what?
 
You
Hehe...
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan tux didnt do it
 
You
He mentioned it.
 
on the guy who made the esolang V's page:
> I invented V and IANAL.
> IANAL
4/10 shittest name :P
 
5:15 PM
22 mins ago, by zyabin101
user image
 
literally
 
@zyabin101 no hablo espanyol >_>
 
You
The programming language is obviously not a lawyer.
 
@Downgoat it's russian
AHHHHHHH CYRILIC
 
You
@Downgoat Donde es la español?
 
5:16 PM
@Downgoat \o/ tyvm
 
@TùxCräftîñg ik its bad joke when idk how to language
 
@Downgoat It's Russian, and Документация means Documentation.
 
AHHHHHH MORE CYRILIC
 
@zyabin101 oh ok
@TùxCräftîñg ;_; y u haet crylic
 
My language has its own make target :3
 
5:18 PM
@Downgoat °Д°
 
You
Love all alphabets and syllabaries and pictograms and emoji.
 
emoji are evil
proof: 👺
 
You
🙃
 
My language uses Latin letters, it still has its own make target
 
@Adnan thanks :)
anyone got feedback for this?
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Martin EnderIntegers, Assemble! code-golfgridnumbertiling Your task is to assemble the integers from 1 to N (given as input) into a rectangle of width W and height H (also given as input). Individual numbers may be rotated but have to be placed into the rectangle horizontally or vertically. Here is an exa...

 
You
5:20 PM
じゃねー!
 
@You AHHHHHHH (searching unicode name) HIRAGANA
 
So, the panel contains a few elements and has almost the same structure as Windows 7's.
 
İIiığĞƏəeqp
 
ok i stop
 
@TùxCräftîñg not random, they all are Azerbaijani letters
 
5:24 PM
33 mins ago, by TùxCräftîñg
this name is way too long
 
ikr
Some call the language "Azerbaijani Turkish", and call the people "Azerbaijan Turks"
 
i want to create a programming language based on PPCG memes
 
@TùxCräftîñg Maybe no?
 
I thought Dennis killed the memes...
 
5:27 PM
@MartinEnder perhaps say "Individual numbers may be rotated and flipped" because when I think rotation I think 90º rotation. when I think flip I think 180º
 
@MartinEnder why do you allow for 360 degree rotation of numbers? IMO, its more complicated that way, and I don't think people are actually going to do more than 90 degrees?
 
@zyabin101 Dennis killed the mems, ik, but nobody will stop me at creating a language with memes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
shameles advertisement of readwrite
 
@TùxCräftîñg license it with WTFPL
 
In the panel, there's a kind-of "Start" menu, an application launch bar to serve the goal of a quick launch bar, a task bar (window list), a keyboard layout switcher, a number of other applets, a system tray, a digital clock and a "Minimise All Windows" button.
 
@betseg all of my projects are under Public Domain, it's essentally the same thing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
5:29 PM
Telling all from left to right:
 
And i use i3
 
also, we totally need a reverse challenge for oeis.org/A117804
 
@betseg +1 for i3, best wm.
 
gvim support unicode, but gvim is set in french D:
 
@NathanMerrill +1
 
5:30 PM
aka, given N, determine the number of integers you could write using N digits
 
The Menu, which contains the main list of all apps on the SliTaz computer.
 
err gvim still dont support the mighty zalgo
 
@NathanMerrill because I find it weird to allow 3 of 4 possible orientations
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan i thought i7 was better??
 
Bit late to conversation, but I use XMonad
 
5:33 PM
oh nvm
 
The Application Launch Bar, which contains icons for a few of the applications from the Menu. At your choice.
 
@Downgoat -_-
 
@NathanMerrill assuming you meant 180 degrees ;)
 
@MartinEnder nah, I'd just allow the crossword 2. Alternatively, you could allow all of them, but I certainly wouldn't have all 4 in your example. It definitely confused me when I was trying to find the 12
 
@Downgoat not sure if serious or sarcastic
 
5:33 PM
The Task Bar (Window List), which self-explains in his name.
 
Btw martin ender thanks for the improvment on my answer
and grats on 100k rep
 
@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ :D thx for link to bloggoat in your blog. I got a view from it today :D :D :D
 
@Zwei thanks. :) remind me, which challenge was that answer on?
 
count the number of rectangles in an m by n grid of squares
 
The Keyboard Layout Switcher, which self-explains in its name.
 
5:35 PM
@MartinEnder haven't we had a challenge where you write the N numbers in as few digits as possible, allowing for overlap?
if not, I totally want to do that
 
I think so
I'm pretty sure I also answered it
 
Between the Keyboard Layout Switcher and the System Tray there are some other panel applets which control some of the peripherals you can have.
For me, it's only a CPU monitor.
 
I feel like it was hardcoded from 1 to 100 but I may be misremembering that
 
bah, the lack of searchable terms makes finding the challenge tough
 
5:38 PM
The System Tray, which shows some messages. For me, it's a message "No packages list found - installed packages 239."
 
if it was 1-100, then how is that a programming challenge?
 
found it via your de bruijn challenge
 
Hey all
 
5:39 PM
I didn't answer it though
 
hmmm...is additional compression possible via a grid?
 
ah, I confused that with this challenge codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/37896/…
 
The Digital Clock, which can change format thanks to strftime. :)
 
@NathanMerrill with rotation yes, without no
 
@MartinEnder right, with rotation. Theoretically, it could be possible, but I'm not sure if it actually would end up being that way
 
5:40 PM
The Minimize All Windows, a button which self-explains in its applet's name.
 
Ah Martin, I was wondering what you would think of my step count idea?
 
All.
 
10 hours ago, by Sherlock9
where the challenge is to create a program that will solve the challenge using as few steps as possible. Steps defined as assignments, each step in a map, for loop, while, other distinct statements.
 
@NathanMerrill for large enough N certainly.
I had a challenge like that on a boggle board with strings: codegolf.stackexchange.com/q/51356/8478
 
Got an email about top user swag. Was for Puzzling :/
 
5:42 PM
@Sherlock9 this sounds like the version of ?
I'd expect it to have all the same problems
 
I have a quite simple challenge idea but I don't know if i can explain well. On A033307; given inputs n and m, output how many m's on the first n numbers. Examples: 1,1->1, 1,2->0, 2,2->1, 10,1->2 i cant haz bezt engrishes so i don't want to write it on the sandbox
 
Ah, I haven't really looked at . What's the story there?
 
well the idea is that you score code golf by tokens instead of bytes
so that languages with long built-in names aren't at a disadvantage
 
My view from this morning.
 
but then a) what's a token, b) this is ripe for abuse because many languages have ways to work with their own tokens so that you can store an arbitrary amount of information in one token.
 
5:44 PM
usually works best when working with a single language (like logic gates)
 
yeah this ^
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan That's pretty
 
the only way to really make the idea work is define a toy language to be used for your problem where you can clearly define that a token is and where the information content of tokens is limited
 
@Sherlock9 Thanks! Good scenery makes up for poor photography skills, haha.
 
Why is it green on only one side? Rainshadow?
 
5:46 PM
Colorado <3
 
but if you are making your own language for step-count, then check out golf-cpu
 
@MartinEnder I suppose you're right. I'm not sure how Haskell would be counted. Or Jelly. Recursion in general would be a pain
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Am I free to use this picture as a wallpaper? :3
 
@Sherlock9 no, because it was insanely high up. I think when I took that picture it was around 13,200 feet.
@zyabin101 I'd be honored.
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I set it as my phone wall paper. :D
 
5:48 PM
@Sherlock9 or 2D languages. or languages without explicit looping constructs. or declarative languages. the core problem of these language-unifying scoring mechanisms is that they assume too much about what concepts a language must have.
 
@zyabin101 Cool! I took a couple other pictures, I might upload those also.
 
And people say writing challenges is hard. They should try writing and debugging challenge types :)
 
About a week ago
 
@betseg Am I free to use this picture as a wallpaper?
 
you must have a very small screen resolution ;)
 
5:51 PM
@zyabin101 yep
 
Thanks. :3
 
@MartinEnder the wallpaper will autocrop
 
@betseg that's awesome. Where was it taken?
 
Now I have a choice of two wallpapers :D
 
@Sherlock9 yeah, unfortunately innovating in terms of challenge types that aren't broken is super hard
 
5:52 PM
@Dennis Another one that a friend on Facebook linked me -- KB261186
 
@MartinEnder i took the picture 4K, but after uploading to Facebook i removed it from my phone. Facebook made its optimizations to the image, and its about 20 pixels now.
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan İzmir, Turkey
 
Ah that reminds me. What's your timezone, betseg?
@zyabin, are you still running your timezone census?
 
UTC+03:00 (DST)
 
oooh, pretty:
In graph theory, an n-dimensional De Bruijn graph of m symbols is a directed graph representing overlaps between sequences of symbols. It has mn vertices, consisting of all possible length-n sequences of the given symbols; the same symbol may appear multiple times in a sequence. If we have the set of m symbols S := { s 1 , … , s m } {\displaystyle S:=\{s_{1},\dots ,s_{m}\}} then the...
 
5:56 PM
@NathanMerrill neat :)
 
Opened the Google Sheets app on my phone...
 
@betseg So UTC+2 when it's not DST
 
@Sherlock9 yup
 
also, as far as grids go, its a De Bruijn torus
(what we were talking about before)
 
Because I think we're only keeping track of the non-DST times
 
5:56 PM
...at the census!
 
actually, nevermind
 
@betseg Added!
 
they don't do rotation
 
@zyabin101 Wait, are you keeping track of only non-DST or just what it is now?
 
Oh I forgot, I never did the census! @zyabin101 I'm on utc - 7
 
5:58 PM
hmmm, a De Bruijn sequence with a custom set of words and allowing for reverses could be interesting
 
@Sherlock9 Well, I priority the person recorded's nswer.
 
@NathanMerrill I'm probably not going to, but I will check out golf-cpu
@zyabin101 They also said yes when I asked if UTC+2 without DST
Ah, never mind. It's your census
 
@LeakyNun I could have sworn we've done the linus sequence before
 
@MartinEnder "Given a large word list, create one massive word that contains them all." Do you think the optimal solution will be easily found?
basically, De Bruijn with words removed
 
@NathanMerrill that probably depends a lot on the words
 
6:03 PM
planning on picking an english word list
 
actually I feel like there's a poly-time solution to that
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Added!
 
or maybe not. hm.
 
Cool! Mind if I see it?
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Let me find it out on my Google Drive...
 
6:06 PM
Did you know that KDE was originally Kool Desktop Environment?
 
@MartinEnder If I've understood correctly, for the integers assemble challenge having only 2 of the 4 rotations would be equivalent since there is no overlap (no sharing of digits between numbers). For an overlapping challenge I'd like to see all 4 rotations, but for isolated numbers it doesn't seem to matter
 
you agree :)
 
@trichoplax not it doesn't matter
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan drive.google.com/…
 
I just wanted to let people choose between rotating 90 degrees up and down and then found it weird to disallow one of four possible rotations
 
6:07 PM
Yup, should have used chat search.
Used Google Drive instead. ._.
 
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Q: More cheesecake!

KrishnabmYou are given N cheesecakes to distribute among M groups of children. Each of these M groups contain(not necessarily) different number of children - m1, m2, m3 .... mm Your Goal Ensure distribution where the largest number of children sharing a cheesecake in a group is kept minimum and return ...

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Q: Generate Linus Sequence

Leaky NunDefinition From the description on OEIS A006345: To find a(n), consider either a 1 or a 2. For each, find the longest repeated suffix, that is, for each of a(n)=1,2, find the longest sequence s with the property that the sequence a(1),...,a(n) ends with ss. Use the digit that results in the ...

 
people might also want to work with rotating or transposing the grid one way or another due to which numbers might end up in reverse
 
I'd still allow all 4 rotations, but not use them in your initial examples
 
I like that flexibility. The only problem it caused me was making me wonder if I'd misread and overlaps were permitted (even though it's clear they are not from the number of digits in total)
 
^ hello world program
 
6:09 PM
I actually thought the challenge allowed for wrapping
 
@TùxCräftîñg Please remove the A*** is ***** meme?
 
@zyabin101 it haz cyrillic letters :p also i don't think we can update it on every dst so plz move me to +2
 
@zyabin101 I think censoring it is a little bit silly
 
@betseg Moved.
 
@zyabin101 so what meme i should use?
 
6:10 PM
@TùxCräftîñg you can't be serious
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan that is beautiful. but how are you getting internet from 13,200 feet ._.
@TùxCräftîñg
 
@Downgoat but the interpreter is written in python
 
@TùxCräftîñg On Stack Overflow, there's a meme - everything is a meme. So you can use "Output."
 
@TùxCräftîñg ;_; y u do dis
 
@TùxCräftîñg I'd just scrap the idea of a meme-language
2
 
6:12 PM
^ that's good idea
 
@Downgoat 1. I actually had a semi-decent connection all the way up to 14k. 2. I wasn't up there when I posted it.
 
oh :|
 
so i will use Foo as a print command ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan You are a mountaineer?
 
@TùxCräftîñg LOLCODE uses VISIBLE, Brainfuck uses .
 
6:14 PM
So, on the wallpaper survey, @betseg's image wins!
 
ArnoldC uses TALK TO THE HAND
 
@zyabin101 sorta. I've done three 14ers, (this was my fourth but I didn't finish) but I don't go very often.
I'm much more into bouldering.
 
@NathanMerrill for your debruijn-with-reversal-compression idea, is the result cyclic?
 
since -15 is the skip command i can use 44 as a print command
 
6:16 PM
@Downgoat my image is #nofilter
 
@Downgoat I decided to return to the original Yosemite image! \o/
 
@betseg my image is not taken on potato :P
 
25 mins ago, by betseg
@MartinEnder i took the picture 4K, but after uploading to Facebook i removed it from my phone. Facebook made its optimizations to the image, and its about 20 pixels now.
 
@zyabin101 \o/ \o/ \o/ :D :D :D
@betseg resolution filter is still filter
 
@MartinEnder I don't think it adds much, so no.
 
6:19 PM
@Downgoat I might end up setting that as my wallpaper.
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan vim help: how to remove all whitespace behind cursor?
 
also, I'm not doing reversal for my current challenge
 
It's pretty gorgeous
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan :D :D :D \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/ \o/
 
@Downgoat press backspace until you hit a non-whitespace character
 
6:20 PM
@betseg ಠ_ಠ
 
it works
 
@Downgoat without an example, my best guess would be db
 
@TùxCräftîñg it's the beauty of it
 
that'll also replace the first whitespace char ;_;
|			To screen column [count] in the current line.
			|exclusive| motion.  Ceci n'est pas une pipe.
wat
oh nvm
 
6:21 PM
C`est un pipe
 
ill just write a nnoremap
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan NO! pipe is feminine!
 
@Downgoat oh. How about dvb?
 
oh
 
6:22 PM
@zyabin101 Ah, I was late to the wallpaper survey
 
that deletes char after cursor ;_;
 
@Poke oh. My bad.
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A: Does Vim have any hidden "easter eggs" or jokes? If so, which?

muruVim is surreallist. From :help bar: | To screen column [count] in the current line. |exclusive| motion. Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

@Downgoat I'd really need an example.
 
The pipe is a lie!!!
 
@MartinEnder not sure how to deal with tiebreakers. I've got 10K words, which should stop brute forcing, but the optimal solution might still be found. I'm debating between code-golf or first-posted as a tiebreaker
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan ok:
    <goat type="saanen">Saanengoat</goat>
  |</a>
where | represents where my cursor is
I could do dT> but T is nto multiline
 
6:25 PM
huh <goat> is a valid html tag?
 
@TùxCräftîñg Everything is, on HTML5
 
i think MemeGolf is turing incomplete
 
@Downgoat what should it end up looking life after? I still don't quite get it.
 
@NathanMerrill I think it's equivalent to finding a maximum-cost Hamiltonian path in a complete directed graph
 
@TimmyD Clearly the best way to warn about imminent hardware failure.
 
6:26 PM
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan oh:
   <goat type="saanen">Saanengoat</goat></a>
 
@MartinEnder oh good! that's 2^n right?
 
well something exponential anyway
 
yeah
any opinion on tie breaker?
 
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I forgive you... this time
 
otherwise, I think I'm leaning towards first-posted
 
6:27 PM
@Downgoat Ooh, I get it now. kgJ or kJx
 
brb :help k-ing
oh wait i already know what that is
:/ imo j should of been up and k should of been down. question: can I swap the two without borking everything?
 
@TùxCräftîñg Name calling will no longer be tolerated. Consider this your first and last warning.
3
 
i3 sets JKLŞ as directions for my Turkish keyboard
 
what calling?
 
The Alex meme.
 
6:31 PM
huh i have removed it
 
@Downgoat no, it should be fine.
 
nope it borks everything ;_;
 
@NathanMerrill if you make the test case hard enough, first posted seems fine and if it turns out to be too small you could reserve the right to use a larger test case
 
there is still a reference in the source code, brb removing it
 
@TùxCräftîñg pls use git commit --amend to remove it from history too
 
6:33 PM
@Downgoat did you Nmap or nnoremap?
 
nnoremap
 
@NathanMerrill this is basically creating the ultimate portmanteau ;)
oh, you removed the reversal part?
 
nnoremap j k
nnoremap k j
 
@MartinEnder yeah.
I'm planning on doing a word-search version, which will have a lot of the complexities of reversal
 
Weird. That works for me. Does it still do that with vim -u NONE
 
6:35 PM
i have borked the repo
 
also, thanks for the tags. I totally forgot about topic tags
 
brb removing and recreating the repo
 
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Q: Compounding english

Nathan MerrillA compound word is a word that contains 2 or more words in it. We can do better than that, though. We need you to create 1 (nonsensical) word that contains every word. However, we want this word to be as short as possible. We can use overlapping letters to achieve this. For example, if you...

 
that's already been done, but outside ppcg
 
@NathanMerrill would that be the same as the boggle compression challenge minus bending then?
 
6:37 PM
@MartinEnder yeah
 
I returned to SliTaz!
 
any reference to AIW meme is removed
 
I'm now config'ing Openbox.
I like the syscrash theme. :3
 
I’m trying to golf @Downgoat’s Vim command request. It’s actually tricky?!
 
@Downgoat idk how to use it, so i have borked the repo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
6:40 PM
@Lynn really? Why not just kJx?
 
No, a general solution.
A “dT that works across lines”
 
@TùxCräftîñg git commit --amend -a -C HEAD instead of regular git commit -a
 
@TùxCräftîñg appearantly we are on the same time zone. Where are you from?
 
@betseg Corsica
@Downgoat k
 
Oh. How about d?♡\zs.<cr> where ♡ is the char you're looking for.
 
6:42 PM
d works with ?, TIL
 
 
Actually, you might need .* cause it could come at the end of the line.
 
Your solution doesn’t work here
Ah
 
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Q: Closing one's own question as a dupe

Rohan JhunjhunwalaI was curious why does it permit users to close their own question. What is the rational behind this? Is there any reason a user should be allowed to do this, and why does it still take multiple votes to close a question as a duplicate if the OP decides to close there own question.

 
Then, still, though
I get abc\nefg instead of abcefg if I try ♡ = d
 
6:45 PM
@DrGreenEggsandIronMan I don't think this challenge is natural-language, because we aren't doing anything with the language itself (I could have used random numbers if I wanted to)
 
All I can think of is, like…
 
I'm going to remove it unless you have an argument to keep it there
 
i ßv?♥↵lx, where ß is Escape and is Return and is the character.
 
@NathanMerrill that's a good point. Feel free!
 
Of course, you’d have to escape it if it’s regex-special too. So, not too hot. ;_;
 
6:48 PM
How about v?♡<cr>ld
Oh wait, actually v?\V♡<cr>ld
 
What were you trying to do? Still whitespaces?
 
Doesn’t that also select the character under the cursor?
 
I suppose. Throw an "h" on the beginning?
Or a ?.<cr>
Wait, that still wouldn't work on the first column. Damn.
 
I did i <esc> for this reason, yeah
Just insert a sacrificial goat space
 
@Lynn ಠ_ಠ
 

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